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first, be part of a conspiracy.

hurt the conspiracy theorist phyically, spiritually, mentally, socially, financially, in order to make them pliable and weak so they will do as you command.

i can't work because of people involved in secret activities and groups, but there's no conspiracy.

i can't socialize normally because the conspirators go out of their way to ruin any relationships.

my computers and phones never work properly because of poorly designed and overly resource-draining spyware.

they lie about spirituality and philosophy (although some of them are just genuinely ignorant).

they literally poisoned me, repeatedly, over several years. the first time for certain was around 2013-2014. right this minute i'm under the effects of a poison they've put in my coffee. a slight vertigo/nausea with some soporific effect.

they practice thought-policing, stomping out wrong-think whenever possible. literally policing, actively, what i am permitted to think or feel or believe.

even if i could work, i would be under constant harrassment and receiving a wage that is far less than adequate.

they spread rumors and lies to prevent me from escape or developing my life in any way, socially or financially or spiritually, etc.

while all this is going on, i still keep my mind and soul for myself. in other words, despite their efforts and their delusions of grandeur, and their despicable use of force to brainwash me (even though WHAT they are trying to wash away isn't even real), i remain as much my own self as a person can be.

i feel like, even though they've won in every worldly arena they can possibly control, they have utterly and miserably failed at any higher level of control. they are the ultimate evil, and don't even realise it because they lie so much they even lie to each other, and they are so good at lying, they can't resist their own lies.

they actually believe that the "king" to be "killed" (which apparently means i'm the king and killing means brainwashing) is me and they are the heroes, despite the fact that their every choice is about controlling people completely and/or hurting them completely until total obedience is achieved.

that's apparently the best they can do, and though i'm literally being poisoned, manipulated, lied to and lied about, paid less than i can live on, harrassed at work and the managers cover it up, etc. etc. etc., i'm not supposed to speak up about it (couldn't prove it even if i tried, the police are in on the lies of course) or defend myself.

this is the new america, and no one can stop it.
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Die in a fire works 100% of the time.
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i think, if you are part of a secret group of people with artificial or even real power, and you use it to harm, not help, then you are a coward and a despot.

if a person isn't allowed to defend their own mind and soul, then the police trying to stop you are literally worse than hitler.

at least hitler allowed people SOME freedom. I'm not allowed ANY freedom. there are fucking lakes, forests, and rivers with more rights than i have right now.

but that's the life of me, the 'king', the guy with zero rights or worldly power.

literally worse than hitler.
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Die in a fire works 100% of the time.
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that's completely untrue, and your in a cult, btw.
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I liked the Italian guy better.
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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leave the country?
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I liked the Italian guy better.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


the whole axis of evil were monsters, but the allies managed to take things to the next level in every way.

i'm telling the literal truth. i'm currently, right this second, poisoned. non-lethal, and probably intended to manipulate me in some way, but poison, and a dice-roll on my life, nonetheless.

the fact that people who believe they are being heroes can do such incredibly selfish and evil things, laugh while doing it, profit off of it, and never show remorse or regret after decades of abusing the helpless, means that these "no-king" cult members are now batshit fucking crazy and un-fixable.
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leave the country?
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economically crippled, and you have to get approval from the new country, where it is likely they will have responsive members of the same cult who would deny letting you stay there.
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I liked the Italian guy better.
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the whole axis of evil were monsters, but the allies managed to take things to the next level in every way.

i'm telling the literal truth. i'm currently, right this second, poisoned. non-lethal, and probably intended to manipulate me in some way, but poison, and a dice-roll on my life, nonetheless.

the fact that people who believe they are being heroes can do such incredibly selfish and evil things, laugh while doing it, profit off of it, and never show remorse or regret after decades of abusing the helpless, means that these "no-king" cult members are now batshit fucking crazy and un-fixable.
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My major problem is that they don't spend their time punishing everyone for being selfish. It's just a pretext for them to abuse. None of them are actually against any of the things they say...not even you.
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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I was poisoned in 2012 somehow

I ended up in the hospital and they said I was on bath salts

All I did at the time was smoke a little bud

Went into full blown schizophrenia, hearing voices, nearly died of exhaustion after months of sleep deprivation and my sweat smelled like it was burnt.

They put me in a mental hospital and tried to get me on prescription drugs, which I immediately stopped after my three day stay.

I still hear voices but can't tell if its actually telepathic, artificial or just in my head.

I'm heavily inclined to believe it's artificial though.
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they pay me less than one human needs to live....but i'm the king.

they control every aspect of my life....but i'm the king.

they lie and manipulate to maintain control...but i'm the king.

they literally poison me regularly....but i'm the king.

see where i'm going with this? they couldn't possibly be more wrong, they constantly make it worse. they demand cooperation, but what they really want is total submission.

no matter what you do, or don't do, say or don't say, they remain the same, so long as your thoughts are not in line with their approval. yes, it is that bad now.

there's no where to hide or run. they don't stop hurting you for any reason, other than total submission, unconditional surrender.

coming from the same nation that annihilated two whole cities just to "put a stop to the war".

they didn't fight hitler because it was morally just, they fought hitler because they didn't want any competition.
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I was poisoned in 2012 somehow

I ended up in the hospital and they said I was on bath salts

All I did at the time was smoke a little bud

Went into full blown schizophrenia, hearing voices, nearly died of exhaustion after months of sleep deprivation and my sweat smelled like it was burnt.

They put me in a mental hospital and tried to get me on prescription drugs, which I immediately stopped after my three day stay.

I still hear voices but can't tell if its actually telepathic, artificial or just in my head.

I'm heavily inclined to believe it's artificial though.
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It all started when I signed some papers that my at the time had me sign in the middle of the night while I was in bed. Still don't know what that was exactly. Can't recall what she said it was either.
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One of my favorites here was they used to put blind links up to this 'arthouse' book with pictures of a pubescent girl at the other end. It had viruses and the metadata and datestamp would lead the infected computers' technicians to the site as well. So they took advantage of conspiracists' trust to potentially get them fired from their jobs for looking at soft kiddy porn. Considering that *anyone* could look at that link, it goes to show that even non-targeted people had some pretty vicious tricks sent their way. Charming people, really. Totally trustworthy and forgivable.
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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I was poisoned in 2012 somehow

I ended up in the hospital and they said I was on bath salts

All I did at the time was smoke a little bud

Went into full blown schizophrenia, hearing voices, nearly died of exhaustion after months of sleep deprivation and my sweat smelled like it was burnt.

They put me in a mental hospital and tried to get me on prescription drugs, which I immediately stopped after my three day stay.

I still hear voices but can't tell if its actually telepathic, artificial or just in my head.

I'm heavily inclined to believe it's artificial though.
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It all started when I signed some papers that my at the time had me sign in the middle of the night while I was in bed. Still don't know what that was exactly. Can't recall what she said it was either.
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that my girlfriend at the time*
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they pay me less than one human needs to live....but i'm the king.

they control every aspect of my life....but i'm the king.

they lie and manipulate to maintain control...but i'm the king.

they literally poison me regularly....but i'm the king.

see where i'm going with this? they couldn't possibly be more wrong, they constantly make it worse. they demand cooperation, but what they really want is total submission.

no matter what you do, or don't do, say or don't say, they remain the same, so long as your thoughts are not in line with their approval. yes, it is that bad now.

there's no where to hide or run. they don't stop hurting you for any reason, other than total submission, unconditional surrender.

coming from the same nation that annihilated two whole cities just to "put a stop to the war".

they didn't fight hitler because it was morally just, they fought hitler because they didn't want any competition.
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Well, it's easier to deal with when they say one of them has died then, isn't it? They aren't *really* people, as far as people go. You also don't have to take it seriously when they call someone evil, or say they do bad things, because who are they to judge?
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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coming from the same nation that annihilated two whole cities just to "put a stop to the war".

they didn't fight hitler because it was morally just, they fought hitler because they didn't want any competition.
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That makes sense. Never really thought about it that way.
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I liked the Italian guy better.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


the whole axis of evil were monsters, but the allies managed to take things to the next level in every way.

i'm telling the literal truth. i'm currently, right this second, poisoned. non-lethal, and probably intended to manipulate me in some way, but poison, and a dice-roll on my life, nonetheless.

the fact that people who believe they are being heroes can do such incredibly selfish and evil things, laugh while doing it, profit off of it, and never show remorse or regret after decades of abusing the helpless, means that these "no-king" cult members are now batshit fucking crazy and un-fixable.
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My major problem is that they don't spend their time punishing everyone for being selfish. It's just a pretext for them to abuse. None of them are actually against any of the things they say...not even you.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


they don't believe in the virtues we were all taught in our childhood. those virtues are just an illusion they use as a facade to hide being evil assholes.

i wouldn't ask for punishing those who are selfish. that's ridiculous. all i would ask for is that they actually uphold the law, evenly across the board, and not listen to special interest groups. there's always that one guy who tries to use "law" as a way to do something fucked up. we can't ask for perfection, but then again, the real situation is so far away from law and order that it's absurd.

all computers are being hacked, by everyone, and little is being done about it.

apparently literal poison is being distributed to people to put into those who are "outside the group and non-cooperative".

there is obviously a hidden network of people willing to participate in these and other illegal activities.

it's literally become a literal cult that mercilessly abuses anyone who resists their ideology, which is supposedly about having no ego, which is absurd.

i honestly think they are incapable of perceiving that what they are doing is a severe mistake on par with aiming at a thousand year reich.
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coming from the same nation that annihilated two whole cities just to "put a stop to the war".

they didn't fight hitler because it was morally just, they fought hitler because they didn't want any competition.
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That makes sense. Never really thought about it that way.
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it's crazy to me that americans, a supposed land of the free and home of the brave, can support thought-crime, punishing people through poverty, violating basic human rights across the board, and doing every sort of fucked up thing they can, including poisoning any wrong-thinker.

literally MORE than hitler ever even had a wet dream about.

here's a tip, if you go to a kratom shop and they won't get the product from the drawer they normally get it from, but instead get up and leave to some back room (EVERY.SINGLE.TIME.), and you get a little sick from it, it just might be because they are poisoning you just like they did with me. now, it's the coffee. some psychoactive chemicals most likely.

imagine the size of the crown on the guy who puts a psychoactive substance in your bucket of coffee, and then calls YOU a tyrant while your head is spinning and you're almost falling over trying to figure out what the fuck is going on.

a cult has taken over the nation, and they are merciless, and they hate you if you are different. it doesn't matter how you feel about them, or what you think about them, or how you act toward them. the only thing they care about is getting you to surrender unconditionally.
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i had to say something. normally, i would quietly endure. but being though-policed for wrong-think, and being literally poisoned kinda pushes me into a corner, doesn't it?

i know all their ideology, and i think i understand better than most of them do, and it just adds up to nothing.

I'd rather piss off a despot as a free and brave american than get poisoned and thought-policed silently.

to the cult freaks: tell your apothecary i'm gonna find out one day if they are heavier than a duck.
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Try and communicate in a fashion that would seem more heartfelt to a neurotypical. See if that gets you farther. I'm indifferent.
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This is being heartfelt. Watch it, listen to it... The ending gets me every time.
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technically, you and i can think and do what we want. so long as we accept that so can others.

you want to think you are a unicorn, and have that right, you don't have to ask do it, it sounds fun. also, your neighbor has the right to think you are being stupid, no matter how pathetically boring that is.

you want to take control of the world, blame everyone else why you violated every principle of good that ever existed, technically you get to do that if you can make it happen. also, no such despotic tyrant has ever done such things without it going really really badly for them in the end, and you will be despised for centuries.

these cult members have gone full despot in the name of ending so-called "ego" from everyone but themselves, yet they don't understand their own philosophy, blame all outsiders for their choices, and digging a hole for a lot of people to get trapped in.

you can choose to be despots, i can choose to resist you. if you had ever actually comprehended your own SUPPOSED idea, you would understand that freedom does not mean you are always right and every outsider is always wrong.

that isn't egolessness, it's maximum selfish delusion. you are unable to accept the universe for what it actually is, and try to force upon it your delusions. all of which you can do, though everyone would be better off if you didn't.

simultaneously, i have been put in a position where the only possible solution is to reject your group as a whole and try to live as well as i can anyway. this delusion you all have where you lie and say that i am some problem that must be solved by any means necessary, and you do it with every violence, so long as that violence is invisible, is nasty-stupid.

the cult of no-ego is literally a worse despot than hitler, and better at it than hitler, having convinced apparently billions of people that an actually delusional perspective makes more sense than reality.

if you are abusing human beings to 'purge them of ego', or 'purify them into a no-one', fine, great, have at it....technically.

but still, you are a despot, and you will eventually be discovered, and you will be an example to be despised for centuries for it. that's what happens to despots.

a person shouldn't have to live in fear of food or drinks on a daily basis because a delusional cult member who never once bothered to think through their own ideas.
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I once knew a bird who flew into a room full of dominos.
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i literally live in fear that my so-called "helpers" (AIDS, basically) will get the secret dosages wrong and kill me, or use something that my body reacts to poorly.

technically, God won't stop them, the "rules" allow it.

also, they have to live in constant fear of a gigantic axe hanging over their unused little heads.

a life of evil, fear, cowardice, in exchange for social approval from equally terrified cowards.

i'm pissed about it, calm anyway, and i'd see them lose their power completely if i could.

i want my life to be better, but not being like them is a pretty massive headstart.
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This is being heartfelt. Watch it, listen to it... The ending gets me every time.
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I'll look up the words.
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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I once knew a bird who flew into a room full of dominos.
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you once joined a cult, too, from the sounds of it.

are you aware that you can choose, anytime you want, to just stop hurting people?

that privilege you have but don't cherish is a reward from a devil. but you DONT have to earn it through violence.

i didn't CHOOSE, my choices are taken away from me. if i say nothing, do nothing, i might literally die, as well as others. that is no game we're playing, it's life or death despotism.

if left unchecked, it could lead us into a HUGE hellish nightmare, for one side or another or both.
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I once knew a bird who flew into a room full of dominos.
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you once joined a cult, too, from the sounds of it.

are you aware that you can choose, anytime you want, to just stop hurting people?

that privilege you have but don't cherish is a reward from a devil. but you DONT have to earn it through violence.

i didn't CHOOSE, my choices are taken away from me. if i say nothing, do nothing, i might literally die, as well as others. that is no game we're playing, it's life or death despotism.

if left unchecked, it could lead us into a HUGE hellish nightmare, for one side or another or both.
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But that's just it. This IS a game. People were gonna die if you hadn't shown up. How is not wanting to submit to torture your fault? It's a hostage situation, and you aren't the one who took them hostage. Human life isn't serious to people who hold people hostage, and there's no need for you to take it seriously. If they didn't want people to die they wouldn't have taken them hostage.
Tous les autres peuples ont commis des crimes, les Juifs sont les seuls qui s'en soient vantés. Ils sont tous nés avec la rage du fanatisme dans le cœur, comme les Bretons et les Germains naissent avec des cheveux blonds. Je ne serais point étonné que cette nation ne fût un jour funeste au genre humain.
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I liked the Italian guy better.
 Quoting: SureThingBuddy


the whole axis of evil were monsters, but the allies managed to take things to the next level in every way.

i'm telling the literal truth. i'm currently, right this second, poisoned. non-lethal, and probably intended to manipulate me in some way, but poison, and a dice-roll on my life, nonetheless.

the fact that people who believe they are being heroes can do such incredibly selfish and evil things, laugh while doing it, profit off of it, and never show remorse or regret after decades of abusing the helpless, means that these "no-king" cult members are now batshit fucking crazy and un-fixable.
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Ok.. so now what?