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137 Million American Adults Suffered Medical Financial Hardship in 2015-2017

 
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That's about half the population.
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Yeah and obamacare didnt fix a thing did it.

In fact Obama had 70% of the poorest people in the

nation paying fines for healthcare they could not afford

for themselves.

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Thanks Obama.
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Thanks Obama.
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he sure fucked things up didnt he
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We should have a healthcare system like Canada.
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We should have a healthcare system like Canada.
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cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are

way to low because Obama opened our borders.
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Yeah and obamacare didnt fix a thing did it.

In fact Obama had 70% of the poorest people in the

nation paying fines for healthcare they could not afford

for themselves.
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This is why single payer is the only way.
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Yeah and obamacare didnt fix a thing did it.

In fact Obama had 70% of the poorest people in the

nation paying fines for healthcare they could not afford

for themselves.
 Quoting: Jake


This is why single payer is the only way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77021644


America cannot afford single payer, to have single

payer you would have to triple the taxes being taken

out of your paycheck every week. 70% of America lives

paycheck to paycheck. Sigle payer would cause a catastrophy

unlike anything ever seen in US history.

People wold lose their homes, their cars, their apartments

it would collapse the USA within 3 months.
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We should have a healthcare system like Canada.
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cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are

way to low because Obama opened our borders.
 Quoting: Jake


Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively.
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We should have a healthcare system like Canada.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77589170


cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are

way to low because Obama opened our borders.
 Quoting: Jake


Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively.
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I wont even click on a Wapo story, nothing they claim is

the truth.


The truth is single payer would cost nearly 4 trillion

per year, that is more then all the money the IRS takes

in every year.

That means every America would have to have their taxes

Tripled to pay for it.

That means every low income family in America would

collapse over night.
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We should have a healthcare system like Canada.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77589170


cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are

way to low because Obama opened our borders.
 Quoting: Jake


Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively.
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dude we are still fighting Obama opening our borders.

he fights us non stop every day.
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if not for Obama opening our borders, Everybody in America would be making

Minimum of $20 dollars per hour right now.
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We should have a healthcare system like Canada.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77589170


cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are

way to low because Obama opened our borders.
 Quoting: Jake


Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77021644




I wont even click on a Wapo story, nothing they claim is

the truth.


The truth is single payer would cost nearly 4 trillion

per year, that is more then all the money the IRS takes

in every year.

That means every America would have to have their taxes

Tripled to pay for it.

That means every low income family in America would

collapse over night.
 Quoting: Jake


Link or you stink!
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cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are

way to low because Obama opened our borders.
 Quoting: Jake


Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77021644




I wont even click on a Wapo story, nothing they claim is

the truth.


The truth is single payer would cost nearly 4 trillion

per year, that is more then all the money the IRS takes

in every year.

That means every America would have to have their taxes

Tripled to pay for it.

That means every low income family in America would

collapse over night.
 Quoting: Jake


Link or you stink!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77021644


fuck your links its a fact and you know it.


Even the head of the democrat party said single payer is impossible in America.

we cannot afford it.


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Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77021644




I wont even click on a Wapo story, nothing they claim is

the truth.


The truth is single payer would cost nearly 4 trillion

per year, that is more then all the money the IRS takes

in every year.

That means every America would have to have their taxes

Tripled to pay for it.

That means every low income family in America would

collapse over night.
 Quoting: Jake


Link or you stink!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77021644


fuck your links its a fact and you know it.


Even the head of the democrat party said single payer is impossible in America.

we cannot afford it.


:commie4:
 Quoting: Jake



Wrong. And you and I have had a healthcare debate in the past.


New article and study about this issue....

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]



‘Medicare for All’ Gets Much-Awaited Report. Both Sides Can Claim Victory.
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Seriously, NY Times??? They are a joke

nobody even opens their pages zero credibility.

I wont even click their clickbait.


Only Low Iq idiots believe anything they print
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The number 137 is the 33rd prime you brain dead sheep

Washington D.C. = 137
Morals and Dogma = 137
Government = 137
President = 137
In the beginning = 137
Authority = 137
Washington D.C. = 137
Mind Control = 137
*Kabbalah = 137 (Hebrew)
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CBO Scored Medicare for all at 4 trillion per year

that is the same amount the IRS takes in per year.


That means every tax in America would have to be doubled

that means every family in America files for bankruptcy
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The only possible way for medicare for all to work

would be a full armed government takeover of every hospital

in America. And Good Luck with that.
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OP you really want healthcare???


BORDER ADJUSTMENT TAX.

HAVE CHINA AND EUROPE PAY FOR IT>

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The only possible way for medicare for all to work

would be a full armed government takeover of every hospital

in America. And Good Luck with that.
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Its a mess jake. You are right.

At my age its $17,000 a year with premiums and deductables before they would pay a single cent.

And who screwed us???? The democrats.

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Thanks Obama.
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he sure fucked things up didnt he
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We should have a healthcare system like Canada.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77589170


cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are

way to low because Obama opened our borders.
 Quoting: Jake


Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)]


In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively.
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I thought people knew better than to quote the Washington Post! Worst liberal trash ever! The WORST!
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CBO Scored Medicare for all at 4 trillion per year

that is the same amount the IRS takes in per year.


That means every tax in America would have to be doubled

that means every family in America files for bankruptcy
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You are peddling a bunch of inaccurate information.

If you take all the money already spent on medicare, medicaid and the VA system, including payments to drug companies, you are left with the remaining population needing care, in general the younger and healthier segment of the populace. Removing the profit from the equation and reducing the multiple redundant administration systems would reduce the overall bill sufficiently to cover the presently uninsured.

Taxes might go up somewhat but this is offset by the removal of premiums and copays that drain money from people.

This is not a difficult or impossible problem to solve. Almost every other advanced country on the planet has solved these issues for their populations.
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CBO Scored Medicare for all at 4 trillion per year

that is the same amount the IRS takes in per year.


That means every tax in America would have to be doubled

that means every family in America files for bankruptcy
 Quoting: Jake


You are peddling a bunch of inaccurate information.

If you take all the money already spent on medicare, medicaid and the VA system, including payments to drug companies, you are left with the remaining population needing care, in general the younger and healthier segment of the populace. Removing the profit from the equation and reducing the multiple redundant administration systems would reduce the overall bill sufficiently to cover the presently uninsured.

Taxes might go up somewhat but this is offset by the removal of premiums and copays that drain money from people.

This is not a difficult or impossible problem to solve. Almost every other advanced country on the planet has solved these issues for their populations.
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No My friend I wish it were true, The CBO Scored it.

the taxes taken out of your weekly paycheck would have

to be trippiled, the Medicare taken out of your check would have to be doubled and that is just a start.

There would also have to be a VAT tax on everything including gasoline and large purchases.

The price of a car would quadruple with a vat tax.

And we have the numbers to prove it, that is exactly what Europe pays.

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you would literally become a slave to Hospitals and big Pharma.
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you would literally become a slave to Hospitals and big Pharma.
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I will look into the CBO methodology. More than likely they are pricing into the equation the numerous inefficiencies of service provision that beset our present cluster of an insane for profit system. Kind of like how the system is gamed up and down to cost shift losses to the government at the tax payers expense while maintaining unaccountable schemes to enrich private shareholders at the expense of the average individuals health and access.

The system is by design far too complex for any rational analysis. The way to approach it is by scrapping the whole mess and starting from a basic set of logical assumptions that we all pay in to a system that we all hope we never have to use but all probably will and that is a shared societal expenditure like national defense or police and fire protection and as such should be regulated and controlled by our democratic institutions not corporate boardrooms with primary concern for profit.
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you would literally become a slave to Hospitals and big Pharma.
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I will look into the CBO methodology. More than likely they are pricing into the equation the numerous inefficiencies of service provision that beset our present cluster of an insane for profit system. Kind of like how the system is gamed up and down to cost shift losses to the government at the tax payers expense while maintaining unaccountable schemes to enrich private shareholders at the expense of the average individuals health and access.

The system is by design far too complex for any rational analysis. The way to approach it is by scrapping the whole mess and starting from a basic set of logical assumptions that we all pay in to a system that we all hope we never have to use but all probably will and that is a shared societal expenditure like national defense or police and fire protection and as such should be regulated and controlled by our democratic institutions not corporate boardrooms with primary concern for profit.
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Op we have the numbers all of Europe is our example.

8 dollars a gallon for gas in Europe, 100,000 dollars

for a ten thousand dollar car.

You literally become a slave to big pharma

whether you need healthcare or not.



There is an answer though, BORDER ADJUSTMENT TAX

and use the money for those without healthcare.
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you would literally become a slave to Hospitals and big Pharma.
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I will look into the CBO methodology. More than likely they are pricing into the equation the numerous inefficiencies of service provision that beset our present cluster of an insane for profit system. Kind of like how the system is gamed up and down to cost shift losses to the government at the tax payers expense while maintaining unaccountable schemes to enrich private shareholders at the expense of the average individuals health and access.

The system is by design far too complex for any rational analysis. The way to approach it is by scrapping the whole mess and starting from a basic set of logical assumptions that we all pay in to a system that we all hope we never have to use but all probably will and that is a shared societal expenditure like national defense or police and fire protection and as such should be regulated and controlled by our democratic institutions not corporate boardrooms with primary concern for profit.
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Op we have the numbers all of Europe is our example.

8 dollars a gallon for gas in Europe, 100,000 dollars

for a ten thousand dollar car.

You literally become a slave to big pharma

whether you need healthcare or not.



There is an answer though, BORDER ADJUSTMENT TAX

and use the money for those without healthcare.
 Quoting: Jake


I think one is in danger of being a slave via the health care racket no matter what as long as it is not viewed as a basic human right of citizenship in this the most wealthy country on the planet.

Get that basic attitude into the mind of the masses and there are numerous ways to go about funding it. There is our bloated defense budget, that always goes up no matter how much we dwarf the spending of the rest of the world combined. Or we could institute a marginal tax rate on fortunes of wealthiest who have doubled their holdings while the average wages of individuals have stagnated for decades.
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you would literally become a slave to Hospitals and big Pharma.
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I will look into the CBO methodology. More than likely they are pricing into the equation the numerous inefficiencies of service provision that beset our present cluster of an insane for profit system. Kind of like how the system is gamed up and down to cost shift losses to the government at the tax payers expense while maintaining unaccountable schemes to enrich private shareholders at the expense of the average individuals health and access.

The system is by design far too complex for any rational analysis. The way to approach it is by scrapping the whole mess and starting from a basic set of logical assumptions that we all pay in to a system that we all hope we never have to use but all probably will and that is a shared societal expenditure like national defense or police and fire protection and as such should be regulated and controlled by our democratic institutions not corporate boardrooms with primary concern for profit.
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Op we have the numbers all of Europe is our example.

8 dollars a gallon for gas in Europe, 100,000 dollars

for a ten thousand dollar car.

You literally become a slave to big pharma

whether you need healthcare or not.



There is an answer though, BORDER ADJUSTMENT TAX

and use the money for those without healthcare.
 Quoting: Jake


I think one is in danger of being a slave via the health care racket no matter what as long as it is not viewed as a basic human right of citizenship in this the most wealthy country on the planet.

Get that basic attitude into the mind of the masses and there are numerous ways to go about funding it. There is our bloated defense budget, that always goes up no matter how much we dwarf the spending of the rest of the world combined. Or we could institute a marginal tax rate on fortunes of wealthiest who have doubled their holdings while the average wages of individuals have stagnated for decades.
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you are only a slave when you are forced to do something

You pass mandatory healthcare, you don't have a choice

Its now taken out of your check whether you like it or not


YOU ARE NOW A SLAVE AND YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE IT.


Every single European now works for Big Pharma.

and just so you know, THIS IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST

THAT THE BIBLE WARNS ABOUT!



All that take it??? DIE!
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