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Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah and obamacare didnt fix a thing did it. In fact Obama had 70% of the poorest people in the nation paying fines for healthcare they could not afford for themselves. Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 05/02/2019 06:18 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he sure fucked things up didnt he Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are way to low because Obama opened our borders. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah and obamacare didnt fix a thing did it. Quoting: Jake In fact Obama had 70% of the poorest people in the nation paying fines for healthcare they could not afford for themselves. This is why single payer is the only way. America cannot afford single payer, to have single payer you would have to triple the taxes being taken out of your paycheck every week. 70% of America lives paycheck to paycheck. Sigle payer would cause a catastrophy unlike anything ever seen in US history. People wold lose their homes, their cars, their apartments it would collapse the USA within 3 months. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77021644 United States 05/02/2019 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are way to low because Obama opened our borders. Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are way to low because Obama opened our borders. Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively. I wont even click on a Wapo story, nothing they claim is the truth. The truth is single payer would cost nearly 4 trillion per year, that is more then all the money the IRS takes in every year. That means every America would have to have their taxes Tripled to pay for it. That means every low income family in America would collapse over night. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are way to low because Obama opened our borders. Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively. dude we are still fighting Obama opening our borders. he fights us non stop every day. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if not for Obama opening our borders, Everybody in America would be making Minimum of $20 dollars per hour right now. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77021644 United States 05/02/2019 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are way to low because Obama opened our borders. Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively. I wont even click on a Wapo story, nothing they claim is the truth. The truth is single payer would cost nearly 4 trillion per year, that is more then all the money the IRS takes in every year. That means every America would have to have their taxes Tripled to pay for it. That means every low income family in America would collapse over night. Link or you stink! |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are way to low because Obama opened our borders. Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively. I wont even click on a Wapo story, nothing they claim is the truth. The truth is single payer would cost nearly 4 trillion per year, that is more then all the money the IRS takes in every year. That means every America would have to have their taxes Tripled to pay for it. That means every low income family in America would collapse over night. Link or you stink! fuck your links its a fact and you know it. Even the head of the democrat party said single payer is impossible in America. we cannot afford it. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77021644 United States 05/02/2019 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77021644 Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively. I wont even click on a Wapo story, nothing they claim is the truth. The truth is single payer would cost nearly 4 trillion per year, that is more then all the money the IRS takes in every year. That means every America would have to have their taxes Tripled to pay for it. That means every low income family in America would collapse over night. Link or you stink! fuck your links its a fact and you know it. Even the head of the democrat party said single payer is impossible in America. we cannot afford it. :commie4: Wrong. And you and I have had a healthcare debate in the past. New article and study about this issue.... [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] ‘Medicare for All’ Gets Much-Awaited Report. Both Sides Can Claim Victory. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously, NY Times??? They are a joke nobody even opens their pages zero credibility. I wont even click their clickbait. Only Low Iq idiots believe anything they print Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68993695 United States 05/02/2019 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The number 137 is the 33rd prime you brain dead Washington D.C. = 137 Morals and Dogma = 137 Government = 137 President = 137 In the beginning = 137 Authority = 137 Washington D.C. = 137 Mind Control = 137 *Kabbalah = 137 (Hebrew) |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CBO Scored Medicare for all at 4 trillion per year that is the same amount the IRS takes in per year. That means every tax in America would have to be doubled that means every family in America files for bankruptcy Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only possible way for medicare for all to work would be a full armed government takeover of every hospital in America. And Good Luck with that. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you really want healthcare??? BORDER ADJUSTMENT TAX. HAVE CHINA AND EUROPE PAY FOR IT> Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 05/02/2019 07:22 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
supporter Loyal Order of the Secret Squirrels User ID: 75423651 Philippines 05/02/2019 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only possible way for medicare for all to work Quoting: Jake would be a full armed government takeover of every hospital in America. And Good Luck with that. Its a mess jake. You are right. At my age its $17,000 a year with premiums and deductables before they would pay a single cent. And who screwed us???? The democrats. Last Edited by supporter on 05/02/2019 07:27 PM Always Hide Your Nuts! --supporter |
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nutmeg User ID: 76388104 United States 05/02/2019 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cant, to many Americans unemployed... wages are way to low because Obama opened our borders. Just because it is repeated over and over does not make it true. [link to www.washingtonpost.com (secure)] In fact, U.S. deportation numbers were higher during the Obama administration, reaching 409,849 in 2012, according to ICE’s Enforcement and Removal Operations reports. Data shows that in 2015 and 2016, however, the number of those deported dropped to 235,413 and 240,255, respectively. I thought people knew better than to quote the Washington Post! Worst liberal trash ever! The WORST! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76280681 United States 05/02/2019 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CBO Scored Medicare for all at 4 trillion per year Quoting: Jake that is the same amount the IRS takes in per year. That means every tax in America would have to be doubled that means every family in America files for bankruptcy You are peddling a bunch of inaccurate information. If you take all the money already spent on medicare, medicaid and the VA system, including payments to drug companies, you are left with the remaining population needing care, in general the younger and healthier segment of the populace. Removing the profit from the equation and reducing the multiple redundant administration systems would reduce the overall bill sufficiently to cover the presently uninsured. Taxes might go up somewhat but this is offset by the removal of premiums and copays that drain money from people. This is not a difficult or impossible problem to solve. Almost every other advanced country on the planet has solved these issues for their populations. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CBO Scored Medicare for all at 4 trillion per year Quoting: Jake that is the same amount the IRS takes in per year. That means every tax in America would have to be doubled that means every family in America files for bankruptcy You are peddling a bunch of inaccurate information. If you take all the money already spent on medicare, medicaid and the VA system, including payments to drug companies, you are left with the remaining population needing care, in general the younger and healthier segment of the populace. Removing the profit from the equation and reducing the multiple redundant administration systems would reduce the overall bill sufficiently to cover the presently uninsured. Taxes might go up somewhat but this is offset by the removal of premiums and copays that drain money from people. This is not a difficult or impossible problem to solve. Almost every other advanced country on the planet has solved these issues for their populations. No My friend I wish it were true, The CBO Scored it. the taxes taken out of your weekly paycheck would have to be trippiled, the Medicare taken out of your check would have to be doubled and that is just a start. There would also have to be a VAT tax on everything including gasoline and large purchases. The price of a car would quadruple with a vat tax. And we have the numbers to prove it, that is exactly what Europe pays. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you would literally become a slave to Hospitals and big Pharma. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76280681 United States 05/02/2019 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will look into the CBO methodology. More than likely they are pricing into the equation the numerous inefficiencies of service provision that beset our present cluster of an insane for profit system. Kind of like how the system is gamed up and down to cost shift losses to the government at the tax payers expense while maintaining unaccountable schemes to enrich private shareholders at the expense of the average individuals health and access. The system is by design far too complex for any rational analysis. The way to approach it is by scrapping the whole mess and starting from a basic set of logical assumptions that we all pay in to a system that we all hope we never have to use but all probably will and that is a shared societal expenditure like national defense or police and fire protection and as such should be regulated and controlled by our democratic institutions not corporate boardrooms with primary concern for profit. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will look into the CBO methodology. More than likely they are pricing into the equation the numerous inefficiencies of service provision that beset our present cluster of an insane for profit system. Kind of like how the system is gamed up and down to cost shift losses to the government at the tax payers expense while maintaining unaccountable schemes to enrich private shareholders at the expense of the average individuals health and access. The system is by design far too complex for any rational analysis. The way to approach it is by scrapping the whole mess and starting from a basic set of logical assumptions that we all pay in to a system that we all hope we never have to use but all probably will and that is a shared societal expenditure like national defense or police and fire protection and as such should be regulated and controlled by our democratic institutions not corporate boardrooms with primary concern for profit. Op we have the numbers all of Europe is our example. 8 dollars a gallon for gas in Europe, 100,000 dollars for a ten thousand dollar car. You literally become a slave to big pharma whether you need healthcare or not. There is an answer though, BORDER ADJUSTMENT TAX and use the money for those without healthcare. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76280681 United States 05/02/2019 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will look into the CBO methodology. More than likely they are pricing into the equation the numerous inefficiencies of service provision that beset our present cluster of an insane for profit system. Kind of like how the system is gamed up and down to cost shift losses to the government at the tax payers expense while maintaining unaccountable schemes to enrich private shareholders at the expense of the average individuals health and access. The system is by design far too complex for any rational analysis. The way to approach it is by scrapping the whole mess and starting from a basic set of logical assumptions that we all pay in to a system that we all hope we never have to use but all probably will and that is a shared societal expenditure like national defense or police and fire protection and as such should be regulated and controlled by our democratic institutions not corporate boardrooms with primary concern for profit. Op we have the numbers all of Europe is our example. 8 dollars a gallon for gas in Europe, 100,000 dollars for a ten thousand dollar car. You literally become a slave to big pharma whether you need healthcare or not. There is an answer though, BORDER ADJUSTMENT TAX and use the money for those without healthcare. I think one is in danger of being a slave via the health care racket no matter what as long as it is not viewed as a basic human right of citizenship in this the most wealthy country on the planet. Get that basic attitude into the mind of the masses and there are numerous ways to go about funding it. There is our bloated defense budget, that always goes up no matter how much we dwarf the spending of the rest of the world combined. Or we could institute a marginal tax rate on fortunes of wealthiest who have doubled their holdings while the average wages of individuals have stagnated for decades. |
Jake User ID: 76890717 United States 05/02/2019 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will look into the CBO methodology. More than likely they are pricing into the equation the numerous inefficiencies of service provision that beset our present cluster of an insane for profit system. Kind of like how the system is gamed up and down to cost shift losses to the government at the tax payers expense while maintaining unaccountable schemes to enrich private shareholders at the expense of the average individuals health and access. The system is by design far too complex for any rational analysis. The way to approach it is by scrapping the whole mess and starting from a basic set of logical assumptions that we all pay in to a system that we all hope we never have to use but all probably will and that is a shared societal expenditure like national defense or police and fire protection and as such should be regulated and controlled by our democratic institutions not corporate boardrooms with primary concern for profit. Op we have the numbers all of Europe is our example. 8 dollars a gallon for gas in Europe, 100,000 dollars for a ten thousand dollar car. You literally become a slave to big pharma whether you need healthcare or not. There is an answer though, BORDER ADJUSTMENT TAX and use the money for those without healthcare. I think one is in danger of being a slave via the health care racket no matter what as long as it is not viewed as a basic human right of citizenship in this the most wealthy country on the planet. Get that basic attitude into the mind of the masses and there are numerous ways to go about funding it. There is our bloated defense budget, that always goes up no matter how much we dwarf the spending of the rest of the world combined. Or we could institute a marginal tax rate on fortunes of wealthiest who have doubled their holdings while the average wages of individuals have stagnated for decades. you are only a slave when you are forced to do something You pass mandatory healthcare, you don't have a choice Its now taken out of your check whether you like it or not YOU ARE NOW A SLAVE AND YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE IT. Every single European now works for Big Pharma. and just so you know, THIS IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST THAT THE BIBLE WARNS ABOUT! All that take it??? DIE! Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |