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China still butchering Falun Gong, report says

 
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You got it except that Falun Gong is not a cult. It's a high level Chi Gong practice that existed in China alongside many other Chi Gong and Tai Chi practices that the Chinese government recognized provided significant health benefits to their practitioners.

When the Chinese government discovered that there were more people practicing Falun Gong than there were members of the Communist Party, they over reacted and banned it out of fear of the potential political power of its Master.

The whole situation with the organ harvesting is beyond sick.
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You got it except that Falun Gong is not a cult. It's a high level Chi Gong practice that existed in China alongside many other Chi Gong and Tai Chi practices that the Chinese government recognized provided significant health benefits to their practitioners.

When the Chinese government discovered that there were more people practicing Falun Gong than there were members of the Communist Party, they over reacted and banned it out of fear of the potential political power of its Master.

The whole situation with the organ harvesting is beyond sick.
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That's a good description of what happened in a nutshell.

How could it be a cult when they don't take your money, don't own property, don't keep any kind of membership information, gives away all its materials on the internet, and people just come and go as they please?

This description of Falun Gong as a cult is pure Communist propaganda.
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Why?! They’re a harmless cult that likes to breathe and wave their arms around! Imagine if the FBI started raiding yoga studios. That’s how much sense this makes.
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Falun Gong has no breathing exercises at all. That is a misconception taken from journalists who were too lazy to go find out for themselves, or even go read the website. Some qigong practices have breathing exercises so they assumed that Falun Gong does too. Simple.

And it is not a cult. If people want to practice it, fine. If they don't want to, that's fine too.

No cult gives their members that kind of freedom.

Go look for yourself and see

[link to falundafa.org]

But I like that analogy of the FBI raiding yoga studios.
Nice.
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THE BRUTAL GENOCIDAL REGIME OF CHINA IS STILL ONGOING!

Just watched this documentary...

I'm no Falun Gong fan nor believer... but the unspeakable torture and state sponsored assassinations by the judeo-communist CCP requires TOTAL DISSOLUTION OF THE REGIME NOW!

THESE WAR CRIMINALS IN POWER REQUIRE TRIBUNALS AND SUMMARY EXECUTION

CHINA NEEDS A FUCKING EMBARGO AND CRIPPLING SANCTIONS FOR REGIME CHANGE.


But that's not what the globalists want.

I applaud the OP for all she does.
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Well, y'know...

there is a pork shortage so longpig it is

leave em alone ! Cultists deserve to be food too!

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My sympathy lies with China. After living with a desperate former follower of the cult for three and a half years I was tempted. It won't cure cancer.

Practitioners pick up at risk people, squeeze out all their money and then dump them with more problems than they started with.

Anyone who wants to defend them should try to help the poor broke old dying woman they ripped off. As bad as Scientology.
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Persecution of EVERYONE and EVERY GROUP who seems contrary to Official COMMIE GOVERNMENT CONTROL is THE WHY.

Chinese communists/cadres/lackeyes are not beyond torturing, abusing, killing, nor genociding their own people.

The COMMUNISTS ERASED 5000+ years of TRADITION and HISTORY in ONE GO during the Cultural Revolution.

COMMUNISTS ARE RUTHLESS and have BLOOD LUST - make no fucking mistake about it

This is why CHINA will be slated to DESTROY THE USA:

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In fact the COMMUNIST CHINESE have a role in the upcoming TRANSPOCALYPSE with their PRONOUNS:

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Chinese Communism: Deep State Evil Incarnate [Ep5]
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[link to www.letterfrommasanjia.com (secure)]

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THE BRUTAL GENOCIDAL REGIME OF CHINA IS STILL ONGOING!

Just watched this documentary...

I'm no Falun Gong fan nor believer... but the unspeakable torture and state sponsored assassinations by the judeo-communist CCP requires TOTAL DISSOLUTION OF THE REGIME NOW!

THESE WAR CRIMINALS IN POWER REQUIRE TRIBUNALS AND SUMMARY EXECUTION

CHINA NEEDS A FUCKING EMBARGO AND CRIPPLING SANCTIONS FOR REGIME CHANGE.


But that's not what the globalists want.

I applaud the OP for all she does.
 Quoting: letter from masanjia 63843910

thank you. you are right. You dont have to even like a group or person to know that torturing and murdering them is wrong.
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But I like that analogy of the FBI raiding yoga studios.
Nice.
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A more complete analogy would be if the FBI were raiding yoga studios and then live harvesting the organs of the people they picked up.
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I don't know why. They don't have any meat on them.
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But I like that analogy of the FBI raiding yoga studios.
Nice.
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A more complete analogy would be if the FBI were raiding yoga studios and then live harvesting the organs of the people they picked up.
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That's a logical thing to do. Plenty of healthy organs. Hopefully we aren't ruled by that sort of logic.
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But I like that analogy of the FBI raiding yoga studios.
Nice.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


A more complete analogy would be if the FBI were raiding yoga studios and then live harvesting the organs of the people they picked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77513744


That's a logical thing to do. Plenty of healthy organs. Hopefully we aren't ruled by that sort of logic.
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Logical? It's the ultimate in barbarity.
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Go collect your $3.50 yuan from Chairman Mao.

:truth compassion:

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WHO`S the SHILL here?!
Oh wait, it is YOU, NWO SHILL.
The third word doesn´t mean TOLERANCE but FORBEARANCE
(patience)
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But I like that analogy of the FBI raiding yoga studios.
Nice.
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A more complete analogy would be if the FBI were raiding yoga studios and then live harvesting the organs of the people they picked up.
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Well, yrs.
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"Damn the torpedos - full speed ahead" - Admiral David Farragut

"Nuts!" - General Anthony McAuliffe

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Go collect your $3.50 yuan from Chairman Mao.

truth compassion

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WHO`S the SHILL here?!
Oh wait, it is YOU, NWO SHILL.
The third word doesn´t mean TOLERANCE but FORBEARANCE
(patience)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77630172


JinnTinTin is the shill, who posted some odious, slanderious lies about Falun Gong.

What you are reading not his text, but the name of the image file. In his post, the image itself shows all three words (characters).

Sometimes the last word is translated into English as Tolerance rather than forbearance. I like the word forbearance better, but it has almost passed out of usage in English, which is a shame.
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Its interesting that people ever have anything negative to say about Falun Dafa.. if evaluated by its principles and source material, it should align with everyones most basic moral standards quite well..
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Its interesting that people ever have anything negative to say about Falun Dafa.. if evaluated by its principles and source material, it should align with everyones most basic moral standards quite well..
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Falun Dafa doesn't align with the NWO - they are anti-LGBTQIA+ for one.
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Ever since the Clinton administration, all voices and calls for raising the awareness of judeo-communist China's perpetual human right abuses in Tibet, Falun Gong, the massacre of Tiananmen Square protestors - INSTANTLY FELL SILENT...

Then they joined the WTO!

Then comes more genocide of Tibetans, Turkic Uyghur Muslims, Falun Gong, and Christians...

NOT A WORD FROM ANYBODY, let alone Trump.

Because they are all on the same page of the NWO...
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Ever since the Clinton administration, all voices and calls for raising the awareness of judeo-communist China's perpetual human right abuses in Tibet, Falun Gong, the massacre of Tiananmen Square protestors - INSTANTLY FELL SILENT...

Then they joined the WTO!

Then comes more genocide of Tibetans, Turkic Uyghur Muslims, Falun Gong, and Christians...

NOT A WORD FROM ANYBODY, let alone Trump.

Because they are all on the same page of the NWO...
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I can't speak to all of them being NWO, but I can tell you that soon after the persecution began, major news was reporting on it, a WSJ writer got a Pulitzer Prize for his articles (which are still excellent reading on how the system worked), and then suddenly it all went dead.

CNN almost got expelled from China, and other media were warned to not report on Falun Gong persecution or say anything good about them or you will be kicked out of China. So they all towed the line, and still pretty much tow the line today.
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Supposedly theres a new Cultural Revolution 2.0 brewing RIGHT NOW under ruthless dictator Xi Jinping

hmm
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Its interesting that people ever have anything negative to say about Falun Dafa.. if evaluated by its principles and source material, it should align with everyones most basic moral standards quite well..
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Falun Dafa doesn't align with the NWO - they are anti-LGBTQIA+ for one.
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This is easily explained by the lack of moral compass in modern society. Moral standards are scoffed at by the forces that are shaping society all over the world. This results in young people growing up with weak moral standards in many cases. We've all talked about that here on GLP.

The practitioners also do not drink, smoke or do drugs, which angers many people. They are consequently very healthy and provide prime organs for transplant, which of course, they object to.

Those posts are very good observations about the part that morals plays in the persecution.
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Supposedly theres a new Cultural Revolution 2.0 brewing RIGHT NOW under ruthless dictator Xi Jinping

hmm
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Xi is certainly in there to make a name for himself. He has been actively 'purifying' media and education (and other institutions) of Western influences with new restrictions and regulations frequently.

The funny thing is that Communism itself is a Western import and to expel all Western thought would necessarily expel the Communist Party too. I am sure that there are those in China who have noticed this too, but keep mum about it.

Another interesting thing is that last year some workers who were getting shafted by their employer utilized a labor union tactic and went on strike, which did not go down too well. A bunch of Maoist students made a big fuss supporting the strikers and their cause, and they were arrested.

So I guess this says off with the old (Mao) and on with the new (Xi.)

Xi's reforms are not met well with everyone. Not that many Chinese are members of the Party and so are not in lockstep.
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[link to www.rfa.org (secure)]

From this very recent RFAarticle:

"How can you replace their own thinking with party ideology?" he said. "Will the students be allowed to move beyond this framework set by the party? You only have to take one look at the sons and daughters of high-ranking officials to see that they have all left the country."

"If our education system was that great, why are they sending their kids off to study abroad?" Yang said. "Why not give them the opportunity to experience an education here in China?"

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My Comment: I think the judeo-communist CCP leadership not only wants to perpetuate even more atrocities against it's own people to stay in power... but they are actively playing their role in the NWO to keep it's people as powerless slaves - in literal slavery.

The western financed Mao and it's unprecedented genocide during the Cultural Revolution erased 5000+ years of aborigine Chinese/Manchu/Mongol/Tibetan/Uyghur/Han culture in one fell swoop for Soviet Style monotony, or how Xi Jinping refers to as Marxist-Leninism with "Chinese Characteristics"

Pretty much all manufacturing and intellectual IP has been stripped from the USA and transfered to China via multiple intermediaries. Russia is in full support of China's One Belt One Road initiative with Israel, obviously.

The point is this, NWO have slated China to be the slave labor force of the world, to keep its citizens in literal captivity. The CCP leadership is doing everything it can to fulfill this role - they use brutality very sparingly. It's true, the elite's children are all overseas.
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China and Saudi are right up there as the most evil regimes on the planet for their horrendous torture of humanity and need to be ended. Stopped forever from existing anywhere in the multiverse.

All fascism, all tyranny must be stopped.


Only democracies, but upgraded ones with homes and land for all, no slavery or exploitation, no abuse of women or children, FREEDOM, and the ability to swiftly within a month or two of public debates and talks, firing any judge, justice worker or politician that is considered abusive or corrupt by the people.

And don't get into nitpicking democracy versus republic, and this isn't right versus left as we need MOM's EQUALITY/LEFT AND Dad's Freedom RIGHT WED AT THE HIP FOR A JUST WORLD.

Not talking Banana republic, but strong constitutional Free and Equal system that forbids all wealthy and bloodlines from even running, only the people can attain government positions, only the people can remove corrupt government easily.

And ending poverty with land for all.
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Look, Falun Dafa persecution is not going to fucking end until the despotic rule of the Communist Party in China ends.

There has been no traction nor much sympathy of the persecution anywhere - worldwide - not the Pope, not the EU, not the USA.

The NWO wants to keep the status quo there in China going.

There is no money nor is there any interest in overthrowing the CCP regime in China.

If there was a directive to do so, rebels will rise up and be ARMED and SUPPLIED.

There is not regime change scheduled for China.

Complaining about persecution does not end it. Sucks, but it's true.

Persecution in China is only going to get worse. Any attempts of reform will be doomed of failure.

Communism in China is the most successful human experiment going for the NWO since the inception of Communism, ask the Rothschilds.

The human spirit will continue to devolve inside the prison walls of China.

You know it and I know it.
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Chinese Communism: Deep State Evil Incarnate [Ep5]
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hf
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1948 the founding of Eretz Israel by European J_ews
1948 the founding of The People's Republic of China funded by International Bankers who happen to be Jewish

Both implemented the Kibbutz system
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It's been very interesting to read the comments above that came on since I was here earlier.

What interests me the most is the emphasis on the replacement of Chinese Communism with another political system, with the underlying theme that what is wrong with China and the CCP is political. And the belief that the -proper political system will be an antidote to the current wrongs.

This in itself suggests that the entire Western morality has been replaced by political thought. The leader of Falun Gong himself, and most followers, view the persecution in terms of a shift away from a moral foundation for society.

He has talked at length in his lectures and writings on the destruction of traditional Chinese culture and its spiritual foundation, the evil CCP and its persecution of good people, how to tell good people and good beliefs from bad people and bad beliefs, and how the main difficulties in societies and indeed contemporary global culture is due to peoples' inability to understand that society's problems are caused by moral failings. And I would add, not by political failings.

If you think about it, the foundation belief in Falun Gong is the practice of Truthfulness, Compassion, and Forbearance. If people in general in any society governed their beliefs and behavior in these three principals, wouldn't the grave ills we face cease to exist on their own? This is my understanding of what Li Hongzhi teaches and what makes sense to me.

The evil perpetrators of the persecution really do not want their horrible misdeeds publicized, they want the world to think that they are good and just, which is why all the censorship, propaganda and persecution of Falun Gong and indeed, those who try to do good in China.

That is why I post these articles, to expose the CCP's evil and weaken their hold on peoples' minds.
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"Nuts!" - General Anthony McAuliffe

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Look, Falun Dafa persecution is not going to fucking end until the despotic rule of the Communist Party in China ends.

There has been no traction nor much sympathy of the persecution anywhere - worldwide - not the Pope, not the EU, not the USA.

The NWO wants to keep the status quo there in China going.

There is no money nor is there any interest in overthrowing the CCP regime in China.

If there was a directive to do so, rebels will rise up and be ARMED and SUPPLIED.

There is not regime change scheduled for China.

Complaining about persecution does not end it. Sucks, but it's true.

Persecution in China is only going to get worse. Any attempts of reform will be doomed of failure.

Communism in China is the most successful human experiment going for the NWO since the inception of Communism, ask the Rothschilds.

The human spirit will continue to devolve inside the prison walls of China.

You know it and I know it.
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Actually, my beliefs are quite different from yours. Hence, my conclusions are quite different too.

You can read my thoughts about it above. But I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.
"I have not yet begun to fight!" - Captain John Paul Jones

"Damn the torpedos - full speed ahead" - Admiral David Farragut

"Nuts!" - General Anthony McAuliffe

*** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. ***





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