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Am I dangerous? Looks like there's a concerted effort to label people who even read conspiracy theories as dangerous.

 
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Am I dangerous? Looks like there's a concerted effort to label people who even read conspiracy theories as dangerous.
For instance,

[link to www.eurekalert.org (secure)]

If you search for news articles about conspiracy theories, you see the same theme emerging. Dangerous, unpredictable, criminal, nationalistic (huh?), racist, fascist,...

I find it pathetic to label people as bigoted or potentially dangerous, because they like to engage in thinking. It is abhorrent to suggest that even READING conspiracy theories can damage your integrity or ability to draw your own conclusions.

I am a scientist - formally trained in rigorous fact-based thinking. I'm also a big fan of conspiracy theories and have been a connisseur of CTs since 90s. It doesn't mean that I buy into Nibiru or Flat Earth, of course. I always draw my own conclusions.

I enjoy CTs. The off-the-beaten-track thinking, finding alternative angles, and reasoning based on incomplete information is actually what I do as a scientist. On GLP, there's sometimes good discussion on physics which I - as a professional - find interesting. I do spot holes in logic and evidence, but most of the time it is still a good exercise in thinking.

In CTs, the boundary conditions (testability of the claims or the sources, for instance) are less rigorous than in formal science, but so what? Politicians don't think and make decisions like scientists. People in general don't think like scientists. Most important of all, mainstream news do not fulfil the criteria for scientific work.

In CTs, there's more leeway to draw conclusions, which may not be as firm as in empirical science, but they are often interesting enough to warrant further thought.

Thinking, in general, is extremely important and this backlash against CTs clearly seems to want to suppress free thinking. That pisses me off.

It is as if people should just outsource all thinking to some approved "trusted sources". Curious, isn't it? I guess that's the sticking point to the mainstream news agencies, politicians and, yes, to many scientists. They lose their precious ivory tower or bully pulpit, and the naive trust of the people. They lose a lot of authority when that happens.

CTs are also entertaining. I love the off-beat or even outright bizarre ideas which get floated around here.

The downside of the CT community is often the inability to revise pet theories when confronted with evidence to the contrary. Furthemore, showing such evidence is often taken as a personal insult. That pisses me off, too. If your pet theory can't survive perfectly good evidence to the contrary, it should change no matter how much you love it. That's intellectually honest.
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Yes there is indeed such propaganda taking place throughout all forms of media.

A 'Ministry of Truth' must gather the foot soldiers to defend it, to fight for it and to challenge anyone in the herd who would even dare to consider that what this 'ministry of truth' says...

It's the crowds followed the truth one day.....
Then their own leaders mentally swayed them to demand the death of the truth and to release to themselves a robber, murderer and insurrectionist

Did those crowds in Jerusalem know that they had been mentally swayed by their own teachers and leaders ?
No.
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'Extremist views' is the broad term they'll use to enact the purge.
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They don't want free thinkers. And then, maybe theorists are "dangerous" because they don't know who has real information to share.

I have never been able to determine if any conspiracies are true....Well, the more wild ones anyway, but I find great satisfaction in following rabbit holes.
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I'm a scientist too, and I know where you're coming from. I don't understand why there's a correlation between CTs and the sort of racism, sexism, and fundamentalist bigotry you see on here in probably half the threads, but I really don't see any trace of causation.

A lot of the stuff that turns up is complete bunk, but there's also the 'serious' conspiracy theorism that is about finding out truths that are deliberately hidden. It's basically a form of investigative science, trying to tease out the real facts, which is why there are probably quite a lot of scientists on here.

But then, it also seems to attract the xenophobes, paranoiacs and others who just want to watch the world burn - or at least any bits of the world that don't agree with them. The problem is that labelling conspiracy theorists as if they were a single type of person (you know the stereotypes) is exactly the same type of lazy, destructive thinking as that of some of the people they're attacking...
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"The existence of both domestic and foreign conspiracy theories, we suggest, is no trivial matter, posing real risks to the government's antiterrorism policies, whatever the latter may be." - Cass Sunstein
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You are over the target OP
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Welcome to the fold.
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They are nervous because the theories people are uncovering are FACTS. Now they are in defensive mode, and uncovering their bullshit is indeed a danger to them.
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I just come here for the shits and giggles. Nothing I post is serious. I guess that makes me dangerous lol
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Conspiracy theorizing is just critical thinking. Of course thats dangerous....to the conspirators who just want you to not think too hard and swallow their lies.
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That’s been going on for years Tainted.
The DS will stop the truth from being spread by any means necessary.
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Conspiracy theorists is classified as a mental illness.
So yeh, they can easily turn it into being dangerous, due to that 'label' of 'mentally ill'.
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I'm a scientist too, and I know where you're coming from. I don't understand why there's a correlation between CTs and the sort of racism, sexism, and fundamentalist bigotry you see on here in probably half the threads, but I really don't see any trace of causation.

A lot of the stuff that turns up is complete bunk, but there's also the 'serious' conspiracy theorism that is about finding out truths that are deliberately hidden. It's basically a form of investigative science, trying to tease out the real facts, which is why there are probably quite a lot of scientists on here.

But then, it also seems to attract the xenophobes, paranoiacs and others who just want to watch the world burn - or at least any bits of the world that don't agree with them. The problem is that labelling conspiracy theorists as if they were a single type of person (you know the stereotypes) is exactly the same type of lazy, destructive thinking as that of some of the people they're attacking...
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The only correlation is the ideals of free thought, free speech and free expression. Conspiracy theorists, by their inherent nature, are advocates of these principles, and so, in being such advocates, you get racists, sexists and bigots. The good, the bad and the ugly. Conspiracy sites become a haven for such people, and thats not a bad thing either. It takes a free thinker to be a racist or a sexist today.
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Yep you are one rogue renegade mofo OP
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Conspiracy theorists is classified as a mental illness.
So yeh, they can easily turn it into being dangerous, due to that 'label' of 'mentally ill'.
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Hence the abuse of proposed red flags laws for a gun confiscation agenda.
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Science has its limitations. So does math. There isn't a scientific explanation, or math equation, that explains how life came to be, just theories, and so science is the organized effort to prove the conspiracy theories of scientists.

Conspiracies require more than one person to be involved, and there are many scientists and mathematicians, so things like the big bang theory, the theory of evolution, the theory of relativity, etc, are all conspiracy theories of establishment trained scientists that have never been proven.
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Conspiracy theorists is classified as a mental illness.
So yeh, they can easily turn it into being dangerous, due to that 'label' of 'mentally ill'.
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Anyone notice the commercials going around about checking in with your doctor if you aren't feeling well? Yanno, sad, anxious, etc? Be sure to do this after he asks you if you have a gun in your house.

When you go in for your blood pressure check, don't be afraid to admit it. They are there to help. Queen Latifa and Ted Danson told us so...

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Conspiracy theorists is classified as a mental illness.
So yeh, they can easily turn it into being dangerous, due to that 'label' of 'mentally ill'.
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Anyone notice the commercials going around about checking in with your doctor if you aren't feeling well? Yanno, sad, anxious, etc? Be sure to do this after he asks you if you have a gun in your house.

When you go in for your blood pressure check, don't be afraid to admit it. They are there to help. Queen Latifa and Ted Danson told us so...
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All this has to do with Chemtrails and the mind-control tech the USG is using on Americans. There are patents-o-plenty that explain the tech.
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Tainted Meat is dangerous.
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That's because there has been deliberate dumbing down of the conspiracy theorist and a lot of fakery like flat earth to make everyone look bad. They came up with this label as smear a long time ago. afro
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You are over the target OP
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Armed with the truth you will always be dangerous to the communist minded.smoking1
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That’s been going on for years Tainted.
The DS will stop the truth from being spread by any means necessary.
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wtf is DS?
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its pretty obvious that those in power want to crush anyone critical of their actions
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You ARE dangerous because you are attempting to use your brain for logical thought.

Can't have independence after all.
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Re: Am I dangerous? Looks like there's a concerted effort to label people who even read conspiracy theories as dangerous.
For instance,

[link to www.eurekalert.org (secure)]

If you search for news articles about conspiracy theories, you see the same theme emerging. Dangerous, unpredictable, criminal, nationalistic (huh?), racist, fascist,...

I find it pathetic to label people as bigoted or potentially dangerous, because they like to engage in thinking. It is abhorrent to suggest that even READING conspiracy theories can damage your integrity or ability to draw your own conclusions.

I am a scientist - formally trained in rigorous fact-based thinking. I'm also a big fan of conspiracy theories and have been a connisseur of CTs since 90s. It doesn't mean that I buy into Nibiru or Flat Earth, of course. I always draw my own conclusions.

I enjoy CTs. The off-the-beaten-track thinking, finding alternative angles, and reasoning based on incomplete information is actually what I do as a scientist. On GLP, there's sometimes good discussion on physics which I - as a professional - find interesting. I do spot holes in logic and evidence, but most of the time it is still a good exercise in thinking.

In CTs, the boundary conditions (testability of the claims or the sources, for instance) are less rigorous than in formal science, but so what? Politicians don't think and make decisions like scientists. People in general don't think like scientists. Most important of all, mainstream news do not fulfil the criteria for scientific work.

In CTs, there's more leeway to draw conclusions, which may not be as firm as in empirical science, but they are often interesting enough to warrant further thought.

Thinking, in general, is extremely important and this backlash against CTs clearly seems to want to suppress free thinking. That pisses me off.

It is as if people should just outsource all thinking to some approved "trusted sources". Curious, isn't it? I guess that's the sticking point to the mainstream news agencies, politicians and, yes, to many scientists. They lose their precious ivory tower or bully pulpit, and the naive trust of the people. They lose a lot of authority when that happens.

CTs are also entertaining. I love the off-beat or even outright bizarre ideas which get floated around here.

The downside of the CT community is often the inability to revise pet theories when confronted with evidence to the contrary. Furthemore, showing such evidence is often taken as a personal insult. That pisses me off, too. If your pet theory can't survive perfectly good evidence to the contrary, it should change no matter how much you love it. That's intellectually honest.
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Methinks you doth protest too much and I'm not sure about you but tainted meat, in general, can be dangerous so make sure you don't wash your chicken.

On a more serious note, you make valid points and it's frightening that if you try to defend your position, they can use that against you too.
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That’s been going on for years Tainted.
The DS will stop the truth from being spread by any means necessary.
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wtf is DS?
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Abbrv for deep state.

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We are the borg. You will be assimilated.

Now stop thinking for yourself, dammit.
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Re: Am I dangerous? Looks like there's a concerted effort to label people who even read conspiracy theories as dangerous.
For instance,

[link to www.eurekalert.org (secure)]

If you search for news articles about conspiracy theories, you see the same theme emerging. Dangerous, unpredictable, criminal, nationalistic (huh?), racist, fascist,...

I find it pathetic to label people as bigoted or potentially dangerous, because they like to engage in thinking. It is abhorrent to suggest that even READING conspiracy theories can damage your integrity or ability to draw your own conclusions.

I am a scientist - formally trained in rigorous fact-based thinking. I'm also a big fan of conspiracy theories and have been a connisseur of CTs since 90s. It doesn't mean that I buy into Nibiru or Flat Earth, of course. I always draw my own conclusions.

I enjoy CTs. The off-the-beaten-track thinking, finding alternative angles, and reasoning based on incomplete information is actually what I do as a scientist. On GLP, there's sometimes good discussion on physics which I - as a professional - find interesting. I do spot holes in logic and evidence, but most of the time it is still a good exercise in thinking.

In CTs, the boundary conditions (testability of the claims or the sources, for instance) are less rigorous than in formal science, but so what? Politicians don't think and make decisions like scientists. People in general don't think like scientists. Most important of all, mainstream news do not fulfil the criteria for scientific work.

In CTs, there's more leeway to draw conclusions, which may not be as firm as in empirical science, but they are often interesting enough to warrant further thought.

Thinking, in general, is extremely important and this backlash against CTs clearly seems to want to suppress free thinking. That pisses me off.

It is as if people should just outsource all thinking to some approved "trusted sources". Curious, isn't it? I guess that's the sticking point to the mainstream news agencies, politicians and, yes, to many scientists. They lose their precious ivory tower or bully pulpit, and the naive trust of the people. They lose a lot of authority when that happens.

CTs are also entertaining. I love the off-beat or even outright bizarre ideas which get floated around here.

The downside of the CT community is often the inability to revise pet theories when confronted with evidence to the contrary. Furthemore, showing such evidence is often taken as a personal insult. That pisses me off, too. If your pet theory can't survive perfectly good evidence to the contrary, it should change no matter how much you love it. That's intellectually honest.
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Any mother fucker who tells you, you can't do this or that PUNCH EM IN THE GOD DAMN FUCKING FACE