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: Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has reportedly made a visit to the US in the last hours
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Big if true!
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Huge indeed, I have not confirmed this
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If this gets confirmed, then it is on.
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: Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has reportedly made a visit to the US in the last hours
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Saudi Arabia crown prince #MBS Mohammed Bin Salman's ✈ arrived at William P Hobby (HOU) at 01:10PM EEST from Cleveland-Hopkins Intl (CLE) after 2:22 en route

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Someone replied that he frequents there for medical treatments?

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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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siren2siren2siren2
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This combined with MBS seeing the president means it is on.
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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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siren2siren2siren2
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This combined with MBS seeing the president means it is on.
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It's 150 miles to where POTUS was yesterday.
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: Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has reportedly made a visit to the US in the last hours
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Saudi Arabia crown prince #MBS Mohammed Bin Salman's ✈ arrived at William P Hobby (HOU) at 01:10PM EEST from Cleveland-Hopkins Intl (CLE) after 2:22 en route

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Someone replied that he frequents there for medical treatments?
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True, he does go there for medical treatment, not so concerning now if merely medical.
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Janey, based on what you know, how accurate is this assessment?

This seems worrisome.

An American official is now leaking to the NYT that the intelligence does *not* merit the current war planning against Iran, and says the Trump administration is actively working to draw Iran into war:


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 Quoting: Winter Soldier


I have begun suspecting that the deep state along with their military counterparts are trying to fool Trump into taking an ill-advised action against Iran which would contradict his campaign stance. Then they can use it to make him look unhinged and dangerous to make him lose re-election. Anything that happens in the US power circles now is aimed at harming Trump. Even this.
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This rings true to me.
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At this point I almost believe that if they were to outright attack us, the democrats would justify it and make Iran the victim and offer them housing.
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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Winter Soldier


siren2siren2siren2
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Trust me when I say the US military does not go around wanting war. War is bad, awful, people die, the military loses soldiers, families are impacted, the military gets strained, they don't like being forced to deploy, work 24 hours a day etc. Thus, the military does not want war with Iran, the sobering intell is that Iran wants war with the United States.
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I think Iran has a death wish they see no other options so the current leaders want it to end in fire.
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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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siren2siren2siren2
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This combined with MBS seeing the president means it is on.
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bump
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The reason Trump won't authorize attacks is because he knows there isn't a pressing threat in reality. He's not falling for the bad Intel.
 Quoting: ISO


Oh hes onboard for the attack, It is soon but we wernt told when. Basicly 100 tactical nukes hit Irans key locations then 120,000 troops get sent in to mop up the survivors.
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That's what I am thinking as well, though can they use nukes? Like is it safe for troops to enter that??
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BREAKING NEWS: Iran's defence minister says his country will defeat the 'American-Zionist front'

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: Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has reportedly made a visit to the US in the last hours
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Saudi Arabia crown prince #MBS Mohammed Bin Salman's ✈ arrived at William P Hobby (HOU) at 01:10PM EEST from Cleveland-Hopkins Intl (CLE) after 2:22 en route

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Someone replied that he frequents there for medical treatments?
 Quoting: rachel3108


Saudi Aramco HQ is in Houston

My wife was offered an Accountant position there

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Intelligence agencies are closely monitoring how will the one million Iranian-Americans living in the U.S react in case of an open conflict
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Purple fonts dude...purple
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Can't see going there for medical unless it's MD Anderson, and that would mean cancer.

: Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has reportedly made a visit to the US in the last hours
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Saudi Arabia crown prince #MBS Mohammed Bin Salman's ✈ arrived at William P Hobby (HOU) at 01:10PM EEST from Cleveland-Hopkins Intl (CLE) after 2:22 en route

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Someone replied that he frequents there for medical treatments?
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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Winter Soldier


siren2siren2siren2
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Trust me when I say the US military does not go around wanting war. War is bad, awful, people die, the military loses soldiers, families are impacted, the military gets strained, they don't like being forced to deploy, work 24 hours a day etc. Thus, the military does not want war with Iran, the sobering intell is that Iran wants war with the United States.
 Quoting: mm 77409870


I think Iran has a death wish they see no other options so the current leaders want it to end in fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21286607


Correct, crash the sinking ship, kill them all. That is why I fear, if this is it, Iran will do far worse than Saddam and it will be the nightmare everyone feared back then, biologicals, chemicals, terror, missile attacks and nuclear/radiological. Hell with the world, give them small pox, detroy the global economy, destroy the environment, paradise awaits us!
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Now: Sen. Menendez calls for immediate #Iran briefing by Trump admin, says expected brief next week is not soon enough following embassy evac.

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Menendez can stfu and go suck on a turd. He wants Iran to sit down at the table and tell us what WE can do to make them content again.

FUCKING TRAITOR.
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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Winter Soldier


this stuff is the real deal! there is a ton of stuff going on, with Iran and many proxies on a war footing.

Will they attack, nobody knows but we have already seen pinprick attacks probing likely responses.

The top and bottom of it though is that all of these groups have indeed taken an attack posture in multiple countries in the middle east, so the US and allies cannot really sit back.
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Thanks for everything Janey <3 I think you have the new war thread, (Although it is sad though) I am really not seeing how this will tame down.
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In honor of our old friend, Baghdad Bob, I move that we call this guy "Tehran Tom."
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Intelligence agencies are closely monitoring how will the one million Iranian-Americans living in the U.S react in case of an open conflict
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This is interesting, remember what we did with the Germans, Italians, and Japanese?
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Russia and China will send shitload of missiles to Iran to sink as much US ships as possible.

Trump will destroy what little power the US has left... then China will move to taiwan and russia eastern europe.

Trump will fuck us all.
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I agree that a war with Iran, would drain our Military power significantly, and China might very well move on Taiwan. But Russia is not the powerhouse that it was as the USSR. They do not have the capability to invade Europe anymore. All that propaganda about Russia being so aggressive, and a threat to so many countries is just that, propaganda.

 Quoting: Lacey Underall


He was talking about Russia invading Eastern Europe, not all of Europe. And Russia can easily do that. The only problem it has is the post-invasion arrangements. Russia always wants a post-war settlement that makes it easy for her to strengthen control over what it gains.
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Russia has very few military bases in foreign countries. The U.S. has bases in 140 countries (only a total of 193 countries in the world!). Russia has had a naval base in Sevastopol, Ukraine for a long time. After Ukraine's Government, that was friendly to Russia, was "overthrown" by the Soros/U.S. sponsored "maiden" uprising, Russia was concerned that it might lose its naval base (rightly so, as this was the U.S. plan), so they annexed the Crimea (with the vote of it's people). After the fall of the USSR, NATO had promised Russia that they would not try to establish NATO military bases in former Soviet states. NATO of course broke that promise, and has ringed Russia with missile bases in those countries. Seems like NATO is acting far more aggressive against Russia. This policy against Russia is known as the "Wolfowitz Doctrine", which states that the U.S. could never allow Russia to rise up to become a world power again, after the fall of the USSR.

(Sorry about getting too far off topic of Iran)

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Trust me when I say the US military does not go around wanting war. War is bad, awful, people die, the military loses soldiers, families are impacted, the military gets strained, they don't like being forced to deploy, work 24 hours a day etc. Thus, the military does not want war with Iran, the sobering intell is that Iran wants war with the United States.
 Quoting: mm 77409870


I think Iran has a death wish they see no other options so the current leaders want it to end in fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21286607


Correct, crash the sinking ship, kill them all. That is why I fear, if this is it, Iran will do far worse than Saddam and it will be the nightmare everyone feared back then, biologicals, chemicals, terror, missile attacks and nuclear/radiological. Hell with the world, give them small pox, detroy the global economy, destroy the environment, paradise awaits us!
 Quoting: mm 77409870


Iran will be a much more formidable enemy than Iraq ever was. Let’s hope it’s not a full on ground war. We’ll still crush them, but we’ll take more losses I think than what we had during OIF on the push to Bagdad. If we stay like during OIF I feel we will take huge losses if we try what we did in Iraq to retrain their forces during an occupation.
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In honor of our old friend, Baghdad Bob, I move that we call this guy "Tehran Tom."
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In honor of our old friend, Baghdad Bob, I move that we call this guy "Tehran Tom."
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Seconded!
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Russia and China will send shitload of missiles to Iran to sink as much US ships as possible.

Trump will destroy what little power the US has left... then China will move to taiwan and russia eastern europe.

Trump will fuck us all.
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Correction - "Trump China and Russia will fuck us all."
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This, this is why I think Russia is sitting it out personally. Why bother right now.
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Russia and China will send shitload of missiles to Iran to sink as much US ships as possible.

Trump will destroy what little power the US has left... then China will move to taiwan and russia eastern europe.

Trump will fuck us all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74818290


I agree that a war with Iran, would drain our Military power significantly, and China might very well move on Taiwan. But Russia is not the powerhouse that it was as the USSR. They do not have the capability to invade Europe anymore. All that propaganda about Russia being so aggressive, and a threat to so many countries is just that, propaganda.

 Quoting: Lacey Underall


He was talking about Russia invading Eastern Europe, not all of Europe. And Russia can easily do that. The only problem it has is the post-invasion arrangements. Russia always wants a post-war settlement that makes it easy for her to strengthen control over what it gains.
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Russia has very few military bases in foreign countries. The U.S. has bases in 140 countries (only a total of 193 countries in the world!). Russia has had a naval base in Sevastopol, Ukraine for a long time. After Ukraine's Government, that was friendly to Russia, was "overthrown" by the Soros/U.S. sponsored "maiden" uprising, Russia was concerned that it might lose its naval base (rightly so, as this was the U.S. plan), so they annexed the Crimea (with the vote of it's people). After the fall of the USSR, NATO had promised Russia that they would not try to establish NATO military bases in former Soviet states. NATO of course broke that promise, and has ringed Russia with missile bases in those countries. Seems like NATO is acting far more aggressive. This policy against Russia is known as the "Wolfowitz Doctrine", which states that the U.S. could never allow Russia to rise up to become a world power again, after the fall of the USSR.

(Sorry about getting too far off topic of Iran)
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Yeah cause russia is run by evil fucks
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Baghdad won’t let Washington use its territory in war against Iran – Iraq’s envoy

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Iraq does not want a “devastating” new war in the Middle East and will not allow the US to use its territory for military action against neighboring Iran, Baghdad’s ambassador to Moscow has said.
“Iraq is a sovereign nation. We will not let [the US] to use our territory,” Haidar Mansour Hadi, the Iraqi envoy to Russia, told journalists at a press conference in Moscow when asked about Iraq’s stance on the rising tensions in the region, fueled by the feud between Washington and Tehran.

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Russia and China will send shitload of missiles to Iran to sink as much US ships as possible.

Trump will destroy what little power the US has left... then China will move to taiwan and russia eastern europe.

Trump will fuck us all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74818290


I agree that a war with Iran, would drain our Military power significantly, and China might very well move on Taiwan. But Russia is not the powerhouse that it was as the USSR. They do not have the capability to invade Europe anymore. All that propaganda about Russia being so aggressive, and a threat to so many countries is just that, propaganda.

Russia did not want to be part of the "World Government" (NWO), because they were told that their influence would be a minor one. (A seat at the children's table). So they became an "enemy' of the World Government. The U.S. has been committing "financial warfare" against Russia, in the form of "sanctions", trying to break them, and force then to concede to Global Government (U.S. interests) demands, but the Russians have not given in yet.

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Very good post, I would like to mention though if China does move on Taiwan though, after the US/China war they might be a major power again.
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Let them burn their flags, sing death to america and throw their shoes in the air - I suggest we people just get on with living and leave them to breed with their goats.
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In honor of our old friend, Baghdad Bob, I move that we call this guy "Tehran Tom."
 Quoting: Revbo™


Seconded!
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LOL Tehran Tim works too. Remember Baghdad Bob saying "We have slaughtered the invader's column of tanks"?...then an hour later the column of tanks was at Saddam's palace, and Marines were taking showers in Saddam's bathroom.

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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

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 Quoting: Winter Soldier


this stuff is the real deal! there is a ton of stuff going on, with Iran and many proxies on a war footing.

Will they attack, nobody knows but we have already seen pinprick attacks probing likely responses.

The top and bottom of it though is that all of these groups have indeed taken an attack posture in multiple countries in the middle east, so the US and allies cannot really sit back.
 Quoting: Janey


Thanks for everything Janey <3 I think you have the new war thread, (Although it is sad though) I am really not seeing how this will tame down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21286607


Ditto on thanks for all this info.

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