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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

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siren2siren2siren2
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This combined with MBS seeing the president means it is on.
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LOL... They'll be no use, can't even beat flip flop wearing houtis... And Iran? Trench warfare with Iraq???
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"Military officials, who've privately voiced a strong desire to avoid conflict with #Iran, have nevertheless described the recent intelligence as sobering and say they believe that #Iran is actively planning attacks on #US forces."

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 Quoting: Winter Soldier


this stuff is the real deal! there is a ton of stuff going on, with Iran and many proxies on a war footing.

Will they attack, nobody knows but we have already seen pinprick attacks probing likely responses.

The top and bottom of it though is that all of these groups have indeed taken an attack posture in multiple countries in the middle east, so the US and allies cannot really sit back.
 Quoting: Janey


Thanks for everything Janey <3 I think you have the new war thread, (Although it is sad though) I am really not seeing how this will tame down.
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Ditto on thanks for all this info.

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It is truly complex on how this could play out.
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welcome guys!

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Yeah because trump is a dumbfuck and gave them the opportunity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74818290


Correction, you are close, I just ahd to do a fix again -
"Yeah because trump Obama is a dumbfuck and gave them the opportunity by ignoring Iran's actions and giving Iran billions in cash to buy Russian and Chinese missiles and North Korean nuclear weapons."
 Quoting: mm 77409870


LOL you're so full of shit. Trump destroyed the freaking treaty that kept iran in line with the nuclear stuff... even Israel said it was good... except that nutjob bibi who wants to bomb iran for the last 30 years
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You are more than half right with your thoughts, but again, corrections help wiht the truth.
"LOL you're so full of shit truth and wisdom. Trump destroyed the freaking fake treaty that kept the media and leftists in belief that iran was in line with the nuclear stuff... even Israel's left said it was good... except that nutjob bibi, elected by the Israeli's to lead her, who wants to bomb iran for the last 30 years, but chose not to in trust the global community would do the right thing.

You are doing well caterpillar, but wisdom will come if you keep trying!
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This to da moon you are in the know mm
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BREAKING NEWS: Iran's defence minister says his country will defeat the 'American-Zionist front'

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In honor of our old friend, Baghdad Bob, I move that we call this guy "Tehran Tom."
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ha ha ha
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


If there will be one bright spot in all this, it will be all the apocalyptic bluster we get from these muzzies when they go to war.

"We will crush the Satanic Alliance under the boot heal of Allah's great warriors and martyrs! Death to the Great and Little Satan! May their streets run red with the blood of their children, Allah willing! Jihad, mujahideen brothers! Strike fear in to the hearts of the infidels and pile their bones to the skies!"
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Thank you very much for all you do Janey! hugs
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: Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has reportedly made a visit to the US in the last hours
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Saudi Arabia crown prince #MBS Mohammed Bin Salman's &#9992; arrived at William P Hobby (HOU) at 01:10PM EEST from Cleveland-Hopkins Intl (CLE) after 2:22 en route

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Someone replied that he frequents there for medical treatments?
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glassesoff
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Baghdad won’t let Washington use its territory in war against Iran – Iraq’s envoy

Published time: 15 May, 2019 15:21

Iraq does not want a “devastating” new war in the Middle East and will not allow the US to use its territory for military action against neighboring Iran, Baghdad’s ambassador to Moscow has said.
“Iraq is a sovereign nation. We will not let [the US] to use our territory,” Haidar Mansour Hadi, the Iraqi envoy to Russia, told journalists at a press conference in Moscow when asked about Iraq’s stance on the rising tensions in the region, fueled by the feud between Washington and Tehran.

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chuckle

What are you gonna do about it, Haidar?
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Trust me when I say the US military does not go around wanting war. War is bad, awful, people die, the military loses soldiers, families are impacted, the military gets strained, they don't like being forced to deploy, work 24 hours a day etc. Thus, the military does not want war with Iran, the sobering intell is that Iran wants war with the United States.
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I think Iran has a death wish they see no other options so the current leaders want it to end in fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21286607


Correct, crash the sinking ship, kill them all. That is why I fear, if this is it, Iran will do far worse than Saddam and it will be the nightmare everyone feared back then, biologicals, chemicals, terror, missile attacks and nuclear/radiological. Hell with the world, give them small pox, detroy the global economy, destroy the environment, paradise awaits us!
 Quoting: mm 77409870


Iran will be a much more formidable enemy than Iraq ever was. Let’s hope it’s not a full on ground war. We’ll still crush them, but we’ll take more losses I think than what we had during OIF on the push to Bagdad. If we stay like during OIF I feel we will take huge losses if we try what we did in Iraq to retrain their forces during an occupation.
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I suspect before any ground war, people will be wearing whitesuits cleaning up radiological waste, ER's will be filled with bodies from pathological diesases, and many nations economies will have crashed.
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Janey, based on what you know, how accurate is this assessment?

This seems worrisome.

An American official is now leaking to the NYT that the intelligence does *not* merit the current war planning against Iran, and says the Trump administration is actively working to draw Iran into war:


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 Quoting: Winter Soldier


I have begun suspecting that the deep state along with their military counterparts are trying to fool Trump into taking an ill-advised action against Iran which would contradict his campaign stance. Then they can use it to make him look unhinged and dangerous to make him lose re-election. Anything that happens in the US power circles now is aimed at harming Trump. Even this.
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This rings true to me.
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At this point I almost believe that if they were to outright attack us, the democrats would justify it and make Iran the victim and offer them housing.
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Sadly your right there insane.
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Iran talked about having a secret weapon that made them very confident? What is it? I saw some very strange stuff 2011-12.
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Now: Sen. Menendez calls for immediate #Iran briefing by Trump admin, says expected brief next week is not soon enough following embassy evac.

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Menendez can stfu and go suck on a turd. He wants Iran to sit down at the table and tell us what WE can do to make them content again.

FUCKING TRAITOR.
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^ THIS ^ X 100
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Can't see going there for medical unless it's MD Anderson, and that would mean cancer.

: Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman has reportedly made a visit to the US in the last hours
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Saudi Arabia crown prince #MBS Mohammed Bin Salman's &#9992; arrived at William P Hobby (HOU) at 01:10PM EEST from Cleveland-Hopkins Intl (CLE) after 2:22 en route

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

Someone replied that he frequents there for medical treatments?
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So maybe Mabus will soon die, just not for the reasons many of us thought it would be.
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siren2siren2siren2
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Trust me when I say the US military does not go around wanting war. War is bad, awful, people die, the military loses soldiers, families are impacted, the military gets strained, they don't like being forced to deploy, work 24 hours a day etc. Thus, the military does not want war with Iran, the sobering intell is that Iran wants war with the United States.
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I think Iran has a death wish they see no other options so the current leaders want it to end in fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21286607


Correct, crash the sinking ship, kill them all. That is why I fear, if this is it, Iran will do far worse than Saddam and it will be the nightmare everyone feared back then, biologicals, chemicals, terror, missile attacks and nuclear/radiological. Hell with the world, give them small pox, detroy the global economy, destroy the environment, paradise awaits us!
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WW2 Japan on steroids
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BREAKING NEWS: Iran's defence minister says his country will defeat the 'American-Zionist front'

 Quoting: Oaken Paw


In honor of our old friend, Baghdad Bob, I move that we call this guy "Tehran Tom."
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Amazing!!!!!!glassesoff
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Russia and China will send shitload of missiles to Iran to sink as much US ships as possible.

Trump will destroy what little power the US has left... then China will move to taiwan and russia eastern europe.

Trump will fuck us all.
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I agree that a war with Iran, would drain our Military power significantly, and China might very well move on Taiwan. But Russia is not the powerhouse that it was as the USSR. They do not have the capability to invade Europe anymore. All that propaganda about Russia being so aggressive, and a threat to so many countries is just that, propaganda.

Russia did not want to be part of the "World Government" (NWO), because they were told that their influence would be a minor one. (A seat at the children's table). So they became an "enemy' of the World Government. The U.S. has been committing "financial warfare" against Russia, in the form of "sanctions", trying to break them, and force then to concede to Global Government (U.S. interests) demands, but the Russians have not given in yet.

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Very good post, I would like to mention though if China does move on Taiwan though, after the US/China war they might be a major power again.
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A non-nuclear war with China would be very difficult for the U.S., because of the great distances involved. Our Aircraft carriers would be taken out quickly, if they got within range. So that leave Guam as the closest base, and that would be taken quickly as well. So once all conventional missiles have been fired, it would be difficult to resupply them. It would also be difficult to launch air strikes on locations deep in China because of the flight time for planes coming from bases so far away. The War would almost have to go nuclear.
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Thank you very much for all you do Janey! hugs
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heya Luis, so good to see you!
delivering the news
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Ive spoken to the US military who are denying any rocket attack at Baghdad Airport.
delivering the news
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Russia and China will send shitload of missiles to Iran to sink as much US ships as possible.

Trump will destroy what little power the US has left... then China will move to taiwan and russia eastern europe.

Trump will fuck us all.
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I agree that a war with Iran, would drain our Military power significantly, and China might very well move on Taiwan. But Russia is not the powerhouse that it was as the USSR. They do not have the capability to invade Europe anymore. All that propaganda about Russia being so aggressive, and a threat to so many countries is just that, propaganda.

 Quoting: Lacey Underall


He was talking about Russia invading Eastern Europe, not all of Europe. And Russia can easily do that. The only problem it has is the post-invasion arrangements. Russia always wants a post-war settlement that makes it easy for her to strengthen control over what it gains.
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Russia has very few military bases in foreign countries. The U.S. has bases in 140 countries (only a total of 193 countries in the world!). Russia has had a naval base in Sevastopol, Ukraine for a long time. After Ukraine's Government, that was friendly to Russia, was "overthrown" by the Soros/U.S. sponsored "maiden" uprising, Russia was concerned that it might lose its naval base (rightly so, as this was the U.S. plan), so they annexed the Crimea (with the vote of it's people). After the fall of the USSR, NATO had promised Russia that they would not try to establish NATO military bases in former Soviet states. NATO of course broke that promise, and has ringed Russia with missile bases in those countries. Seems like NATO is acting far more aggressive against Russia. This policy against Russia is known as the "Wolfowitz Doctrine", which states that the U.S. could never allow Russia to rise up to become a world power again, after the fall of the USSR.

(Sorry about getting too far off topic of Iran)
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Thanks for this.
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Thank you very much for all you do Janey! hugs
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heya Luis, so good to see you!
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Russia and China will send shitload of missiles to Iran to sink as much US ships as possible.

Trump will destroy what little power the US has left... then China will move to taiwan and russia eastern europe.

Trump will fuck us all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74818290


I agree that a war with Iran, would drain our Military power significantly, and China might very well move on Taiwan. But Russia is not the powerhouse that it was as the USSR. They do not have the capability to invade Europe anymore. All that propaganda about Russia being so aggressive, and a threat to so many countries is just that, propaganda.

Russia did not want to be part of the "World Government" (NWO), because they were told that their influence would be a minor one. (A seat at the children's table). So they became an "enemy' of the World Government. The U.S. has been committing "financial warfare" against Russia, in the form of "sanctions", trying to break them, and force then to concede to Global Government (U.S. interests) demands, but the Russians have not given in yet.

 Quoting: Lacey Underall


Very good post, I would like to mention though if China does move on Taiwan though, after the US/China war they might be a major power again.
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Russia did want its seat at the table but big business wanted the monopolization of the Russian energy sector and to balkanize Russia so as to maintain a ideological and militaristic geopolitical hegemony allowing operations of all aspects to be carried out freely without any real interference, my way or the highway kinda mentality and through the Euphoria of such a success over the USSR there wasn't any thought considered for the Russian people, their history or their culture we went back on deals like not pushing eastwards with NATO and furthered cultural oppression of ethnic slavs within Europe.

China is a spaghetti junction of politics and the reason why the middle east is so messed up is because its policed by those who don't think outside their own identity its inevitable for all those reasons that war will always come knocking because no two ideologies are compatible.
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I’m an Iranian(by birth only) not nationality, thankfully living in North America and I’m 100% with the US/NATO forces against the Islamist republic; using whatever force it needs to neutralize the Mullah occupying regime of Iran.
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Trust me when I say the US military does not go around wanting war. War is bad, awful, people die, the military loses soldiers, families are impacted, the military gets strained, they don't like being forced to deploy, work 24 hours a day etc. Thus, the military does not want war with Iran, the sobering intell is that Iran wants war with the United States.
 Quoting: mm 77409870


I think Iran has a death wish they see no other options so the current leaders want it to end in fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21286607


Correct, crash the sinking ship, kill them all. That is why I fear, if this is it, Iran will do far worse than Saddam and it will be the nightmare everyone feared back then, biologicals, chemicals, terror, missile attacks and nuclear/radiological. Hell with the world, give them small pox, detroy the global economy, destroy the environment, paradise awaits us!
 Quoting: mm 77409870


Iran will be a much more formidable enemy than Iraq ever was. Let’s hope it’s not a full on ground war. We’ll still crush them, but we’ll take more losses I think than what we had during OIF on the push to Bagdad. If we stay like during OIF I feel we will take huge losses if we try what we did in Iraq to retrain their forces during an occupation.
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True, but one good thing on our side is it is a sinking economy. So hopefully that will help.
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I’m an Iranian(by birth only) not nationality, thankfully living in North America and I’m 100% with the US/NATO forces against the Islamist republic; using whatever force it needs to neutralize the Mullah occupying regime of Iran.
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Amen brother, you're one of us
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Thank you very much for all you do Janey! hugs
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heya Luis, so good to see you!
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Gang is all here. Just missing Sir Boom Boom now.
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I’m an Iranian(by birth only) not nationality, thankfully living in North America and I’m 100% with the US/NATO forces against the Islamist republic; using whatever force it needs to neutralize the Mullah occupying regime of Iran.
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Sure hope all those in NA think like you
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Baghdad won’t let Washington use its territory in war against Iran – Iraq’s envoy

Published time: 15 May, 2019 15:21

Iraq does not want a “devastating” new war in the Middle East and will not allow the US to use its territory for military action against neighboring Iran, Baghdad’s ambassador to Moscow has said.
“Iraq is a sovereign nation. We will not let [the US] to use our territory,” Haidar Mansour Hadi, the Iraqi envoy to Russia, told journalists at a press conference in Moscow when asked about Iraq’s stance on the rising tensions in the region, fueled by the feud between Washington and Tehran.

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I thought this would happen Iraq is basically Iran now the reemergence of the Persian Empire I see.
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I’m an Iranian(by birth only) not nationality, thankfully living in North America and I’m 100% with the US/NATO forces against the Islamist republic; using whatever force it needs to neutralize the Mullah occupying regime of Iran.
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Sure hope all those in NA think like you
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TRUE Americans will never bow to mullahs or muzz, regardless of where they came from.

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Ive spoken to the US military who are denying any rocket attack at Baghdad Airport.
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Thanks! I figured that!
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