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Iran says talks with Trump are possible if the U.S. returns to the 2015 nuclear deal

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This seems a little promising. Trump is not returning to that nuke deal, but perhaps this means Iran is considering coming to the table.
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They're just making a demand they know won't be fulfilled to make themselves look like the reasonable ones. They know Trump will not be taking us back to the 2015 deal.
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Iran says talks with Trump are possible if the U.S. returns to the 2015 nuclear deal

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Doom off.
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You reckon Trump is going to return to the 2015 nuclear deal?
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I would say no way, especially under threat from Iran.
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Of course, that's just stupid!
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I still do not know why Iran is provoking us. Why now? What are they wanting?
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The restrainer has to be removed first like the prophecy says. Remember, the LORD Jesus Christ is the sovereign. He is in control.


When the restrainer is removed, the Day of the LORD begins with Sudden Destruction.

The Restrainer is the Holy Spirit who dwells in all true born again believers.

Thus when the rapture happens the attack from Iran, China, Russia, Turkey, North Korea, and many people with them happens.

It's the cloudy day! The fall of Babylon the Great (USA), World War 3, Gog and Magog, etc.


The greatest earthquake in human history occurs
The greatest hail storm in human history occurs.
1/4th of all the world will be dead when the dust settles!

And that's just the beginning of the Great and dreadful day of the LORD!


The 4th beast kingdom then takes over because America is no more. The 10 kings have the power and the antichrist appears to rule the world with the mark of the beast 666


Woe worth the day! Amen!
"Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so be she may be healed. We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies." Jeremiah 51:8-9
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...

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They have already done 2 things in less than a week.
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I keep wondering about this myself. Haven't they already crossed the "red line"?
 Quoting: Winter Soldier


No.

These acts were done by proxies. Not Iran.
So Iran not over any line.
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it's unimportant who did what. Damages that Iran's proxies have done were MINIMAL. If Iran wanted to destroy stuffs, you would see people die and big explosions everywhere.

Because of minimal damages and no casualties, Iran and Iran's proxies sent a message that they didn't want to have a war. Furthermore, they avoided a war with US.

Despite of all Iran's tough talks, everything will be OK . A lot of diplomacy is behind the closed door right now. It depends on what Iran and Us ask, we can have a new deal between Us and Iran.

Believe me, Iran will want a quick deal because the longer Iran negotiates, the worst its population will be. Iran like North Korea want to keep the current regime.
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Iran Say No Talk For You Donald Trump America ! ! !
Donald Trump What Time Take Action ! ! !
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Doom off.
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You reckon Trump is going to return to the 2015 nuclear deal?
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I would say no way, especially under threat from Iran.
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Of course, that's just stupid!
 Quoting: Luisport


Correct.
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But they do not want to talk/negotiate with the US. They are targeting our installations in that area. That is not the way to 'talk' with Trump.

Seems like they are talking with someone within our gov., like Kerry or Obama.

Something is fucky
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Isn’t President Trump briefing the Gang of eight today of which Feinstein is a member? If so Feinstein might brief the Iranians directly. These Democraps will do literally anything to get our President, and our country by extension, in trouble.
 Quoting: Moppie


Yes!

I think there is something nefarious with members of our gov trying to instigate a war with Iran.
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I'm starting to think they are planning to set him up.
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You don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc, really call the shots, do you?

If the men behind the curtain want war with Iran (and I don't think they want a direct war in this case) then there is nothing a president can do.

As long as we have any excuse to station hardware in the Gulf for decades to come, those who control the military industrial complex will be satisfied.
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Trump WILL NOT agree to insane terms. DOOM ON!
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British Foreign Secretary: We agree with the U.S. assessment on Iran's grave threat


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I tend to think British intelligence agencies were kept out of the loop initially because of our pathetic and idiotic deal to let chinese Huawei build part of our 5G over-complex spy grid system.
We can expect to be out of the loop in the future as well because of the Chinese listening in with their backdoor asic level spyware and malware.
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#UPDATE: Meeting between the Kuwaiti parliament and the government taking place to discuss preparations for any war in the region USE-FULL-LINK-6p5x9HDCzT
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#UPDATE: Meeting between the Kuwaiti parliament and the government taking place to discuss preparations for any war in the region
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EXCLUSIVE: UK has raised threat level for UK forces + diplomats in Iraq - in line with the US - because of what sources say is a heightened security risk from Iran
Britain has also put its personnel + families in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait & Qatar on an increased state of alert

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Doom off.
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I still do not know why Iran is provoking us. Why now? What are they wanting?
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Christ almost 400 pages about a war with a regional power that hasn't even begun yet. Imagine if glp had existed during ww2

lmao
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Has Iran signed The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons?
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Has Iran signed The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons?
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State Department: Iran Deal Is Not ‘Legally Binding’ and Iran Didn’t Sign It

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IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER ZARIF HEADING TO CHINA ON FRIDAY: IRNA

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Iran says talks with Trump are possible if the U.S. returns to the 2015 nuclear deal

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This seems a little promising. Trump is not returning to that nuke deal, but perhaps this means Iran is considering coming to the table.
 Quoting: Winter Soldier


Iran wants Chinese to buy their oils while they are negotiating for a new deal with US.

We'll see the answers for 2 questions in the future?

1- What US want Iran to do if Iran wants US to lift all the sanctions?
2- Will this negotiation format based on US vs Iran or 5+1 vs Iran ?
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How Iran Changed The World

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Feb 19, 2012 - 2:28:01 AM

Imagine this scenario: A developing nation decides to selectively share its precious natural resource, selling only to "friendly" countries and not "hostile" ones. Now imagine this is oil we're talking about and the nation in question is the Islamic Republic of Iran...

Early news reports on Wednesday claimed that Iran pre-empted European Union sanctions by turning off the oil spigot to six member-states: the Netherlands, Spain, Italy, France, Greece and Portugal.

The reports were premature. According to a highly-placed source in the country, Iran will only stop its oil supply to these nations if they fail to adopt new trading conditions: 1) signing 3 to 5-year contracts to import Iranian oil, with all agreements concluded prior to March 21, and 2) payment for the oil will no longer be accepted within 60-day cycles, as in the past, and must instead be honored immediately.

Negotiations are currently underway with all six nations. Iran, says the source, expects to cut oil supplies to at least two nations based on their current positions. These are likely to be Holland and France.

Meanwhile, the other four EU member-states are in dire financial straits. They are knee-deep in the kind of fiscal crisis that has no hope of resolution unless they exit the union and go back to banana republic basics. Yet, they found the time to sanction Iran over some convoluted American-Israeli theory that the Islamic Republic may one day decide to build a nuclear weapon. I am sure arm-twisting was involved – the kind that involves dollars for votes.

But I digress. This blog is really about ideas. And not just ideas, but really ridiculous ideas.

New World Order Jump-Started by Iran?

Alternative sources of oil will be found in a jiffy for these beleaguered EU economies. But this isn’t so much about a few barrels of the stuff that fuels the world’s engines.

This is about the idea that a singular action taken amidst the political and economic re-set about to take place globally, can propel us in a whole new direction overnight.

The past few years have shown that there is no global financial leadership capable of pulling us back from the abyss. The US national debt hovers around the $15.3 Trillion mark. Its GDP in 2011 was just under $15 Trillion. You do the math – there is no fixing that one. The only next-big-thing coming out of that dead end will be the complete transformation of the current global economic order.

But how will that take place without leadership and clear direction? I'm betting hard that It will not come from the top, nor will it be directed. The new global economic order will be organic, regional and quite sudden.

What do I mean? Imagine: Iran stops selling oil to the EU; China tells the US to take a hike on currency values; India starts trading in large quantities of rupees; Russia’s central bank becomes a depot for holding dollars that don’t need to pass through New York; the creation of a global payment messaging system competing with SWIFT. Now imagine that a combination of actions - triggered only by an attempt to circumvent some really very silly sanctions - can suddenly unleash some unexpected possibilities that were beyond the realm of imagination a mere few years ago.

Imagine the emergence, say, of regional economic hubs, powered by the currencies of the local hegemonic powers, where bartering natural resources, goods and services becomes as commonplace as transactions involving currency transfers. Because of the frailty inherent in dealing with these new local currencies and a bartering system, nations tend to trade most with those closest to them in geography and culture. Shocking? Maybe not. Sometimes it just takes a need for change...and a handy tipping point.

“This is not the time to fan the flames,” someone should have told the United States. “You and your pals are sitting in a jalopy tottering on the cliff’s edge – why risk making moves now?” they should have warned. “Be a little less arrogant,” would have been sage advice.

But Washington is absolutely, irrevocably, dangerously fixated on showing Iran who’s boss, and spends a good part of every day trying to tighten the screws around the Islamic Republic. For the most part, the US’s pursuit of this dubious objective has instead stripped it of the vital political tools it once wielded. No more UN Security Council resolutions, no more unscrutinized military adventures. The only thing left is the nefarious tentacles of the United States Department of Treasury and its financial weapons. “The new tools of imperialism,” as once US-friendly central banker in the Mideast bluntly put it to me.

I only hear shrill desperation when politicos now parrot the “sanctions are biting” line. Here’s a juicy tidbit for those rolling their eyes right now: Goldman Sachs – America’s premier investment bank and Wall-Street God – has identified the Islamic Republic as one of the “Next 11” growth drivers of the global economy after the BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) nations. BRIC was a term coined by Goldman Sachs, if you recall, and boy, were they right about that one.

Thirty years of “biting” sanctions and sanctions “with teeth” have achieved the following: “Strong or improving growth conditions,” said Goldman Sachs just last year, “combined with favorable demographics, form the foundation of the N-11 growth story.” The investment bank, furthermore, estimates “a measurable increase in the N-11’s share of global GDP, from roughly 12% in the current decade to 17% in 2040-2049.”

It’s a bad global economy we are facing right now, but Goldman Sachs’ charts illustrate that Iran is still one of five nations in the N-11 pot whose “productivity and sustainability of growth” is above average.
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Iran says talks with Trump are possible if the U.S. returns to the 2015 nuclear deal

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This seems a little promising. Trump is not returning to that nuke deal, but perhaps this means Iran is considering coming to the table.
 Quoting: Winter Soldier


They're just making a demand they know won't be fulfilled to make themselves look like the reasonable ones. They know Trump will not be taking us back to the 2015 deal.
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They're saying what they've said for the past 11 days, that they're giving 60 days for the parties involved to keep to the agreement established, this is no ground forward only a sign of sticking to their guns.
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Christ almost 400 pages about a war with a regional power that hasn't even begun yet. Imagine if glp had existed during ww2

lmao
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Imagine sir boom boom after the atom bomb was dropped

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U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says Trump administration must recognize that it does not have congressional authorization for war on Iran - @Reuters

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Iran says talks with Trump are possible if the U.S. returns to the 2015 nuclear deal

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This seems a little promising. Trump is not returning to that nuke deal, but perhaps this means Iran is considering coming to the table.
 Quoting: Winter Soldier


They're just making a demand they know won't be fulfilled to make themselves look like the reasonable ones. They know Trump will not be taking us back to the 2015 deal.
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They're saying what they've said for the past 11 days, that they're giving 60 days for the parties involved to keep to the agreement established, this is no ground forward only a sign of sticking to their guns.
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yup.
so long as the U.S. doesn't mind being toyed with,
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Oil prices increased for a third straight day Thursday as rising tensions between the U.S. and Iran fueled worries of a disruption to Middle East oil supplies and shipments.

—West Texas Intermediate futures, the U.S. oil benchmark, were 1.4% higher at $62.91 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.


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Has Iran signed The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons?
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My last post was mistakenly regarding the Iran deal, which Iran did not sign.

Yes, Iran is a party to the NPT since 1970.

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British Foreign Secretary: We agree with the U.S. assessment on Iran's grave threat


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siren2
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I tend to think British intelligence agencies were kept out of the loop initially because of our pathetic and idiotic deal to let chinese Huawei build part of our 5G over-complex spy grid system.
We can expect to be out of the loop in the future as well because of the Chinese listening in with their backdoor asic level spyware and malware.
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Not at all, the Huawei supply of goods I believe isn't going ahead afaik, and there was a ban placed upon Chinese supply of telecoms materials...

You'll find SIS and CIA still work very closely remember London was the only stop on Europe Pompeo done.
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#UPDATE: US carrier strike group arrives in position in northern Arabian Sea (likely near the entrance to the Gulf of Oman)
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I debated on whether to post this or not, but it's probably nothing.

I'm on vacation with my cousin and his wife. My cousin has one of those gov jobs that even his wife doesn't know what he does, where he does it, or who he does it with. He has briefed presidents in the past. If it snows at his house near DC and he can't drive to work, they will come and get him in snow-capable vehicles. If he doesn't show up for work, and doesn't call in, they will send the black SUVs with armed folks to find him. He can't travel out of the country on vacation without huge paperwork pain in the ass, and approval from bosses. In other words, he does some important behind-the-scenes shit.

Vacation is sacred for these types, and they have a checklist of things to accomplish at work before they leave. This includes briefings and meetings that cover his area of expertise. His counterparts were fully briefed last week.

This morning he received a call from work on his personal phone. This is unusual, and of course he can't talk to work on that phone, but it's looking like he might have to cut beach time short and return to work. This isn't normal. I've been on trips with him many times over the years, during various crisis in the world, and he never hears from work. We chat, and of course he doesn't say shit to me, but I get the feeling this time is different. I've asked him questions about this crisis, and he just says there is ALWAYS crisis.

So, sorry for the long post about nothing much; he doesn't seemed too concerned, but it struck me as unusual, so I thought I'd share.
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Christ almost 400 pages about a war with a regional power that hasn't even begun yet. Imagine if glp had existed during ww2

lmao
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Imagine sir boom boom after the atom bomb was dropped

chuckle
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That would be one happy boom boom guy lol