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This planet is hell. For all of us. The sooner you wake up to that fact the better.
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Its not hell, you just think it is.

Even if it was, just make a heaven out of hell and tell the devil to go Fuck himself.
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From my experiences on this rock I tend to think otherwise. If you can manage to feel happy on this planet I say good for you. No sarcasm. I think I was stuck in this place as punishment. This is a fallen world.
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Maybe if you'd leave your parents basement every once in a while, you might just see the sunshine.

You haven't even BEGUN to experience hell, my friend. Not by a long shot.
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Ridicule doesn't make trolls smarter or less emotional.
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Syria intercepts Israeli missile south of Damascus

Source: Xinhua| 2019-06-02 09:37:59|

question how was that possible for the Iranian missiles to enter the space of Israel entity without being taken buy the expensive useless so cold Dome or farts Israel is a paper tiger but desperately need to take the potatoes out of Fire with somebody else's hand which is the United States UK you name it
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Did they hit anything ?
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Well no the guy is right, it will not just be a shoot and scoot conflict, militarily Iran wouldn't win against the US but in order to actually defeat the Iranian forces keep in mind the IRGC are independent and runs multiple affiliated groups across the ME and out wards, they would have to commit to a protracted war...

Either way it goes there would be the need for US boots on the ground in order to secure the WMDs and Iranian nuclear material, you can't drop bombs on an active nuclear reactor that would be the dumbest shit you could do especially when one facility sits near the opening of the Straits of Hormuz...

In order to secure the sites for safe dismantling it would require a presence of armed personnel under constant threat so there would be a need for buffer zones and securing of installations, infastructure etc...

It's not opinion it's common sense and knowledge of the past ask anyone with any once of knowledge or understanding of the region, how it ties in with geopolitics the economy and cultures involved and they will be able to tell it's a bad idea to go into Iran at least in the sense of what would be required to prevent a resurgence of threat, Afghanistan and Iraq take note of them and the shit show that is Libya...

This isn't meant at all to insult or offend you I just have to point the obvious fact.
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You are absolutely right.

It would be a complete shitstorm that would make Iraq and Afghanistan look like a Girl scout bake sale.

Respect to you and your knowledge.
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The thoughts the two of you shared, make good sense to me. It does bring some further thoughts to the forefront of my mind though...

With Saudi Arabia uniting the Arab world against Iran, does it bring about the possibility of an American led coalition against a nuclear Iran? One where American special forces secure important locations, but the Saudi coalition do the majority of the ground offensive.

I could see Trump trying to sell this to the American people by saying the Saudi's are paying for the war by buying American hardware.

Is there really no way for a war with Iran that doesn't involve a massive US manpower cost?
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The trouble with the Arab coalition is they have no competence the commanders tend to keep information to themselves so they're ensuring their value and protection theres no initiative on the ground so reactions are slow and ineffective the bulk of the forces are usually are down to conscription forces theres often low morale and open to corruption...

These are not the troops you would use to secure the sites especially something as important as Iran's sites, or rather they wouldn't be relied upon to protect locations of vital infrastructure especially with a dismantling process it's why in Syria we saw Russia effectively over seeing the removal of Syrian chemical weapons...

Then theres also the Shia v Sunni issue, not to mention Arab v Persian it would be a bloody civil war which would make things all the more unstable across the entire middle east...

It would be one of those things if you want the job done right do it yourself, even if the Arab troops were used as a holding force there would have to be a US element there to ensure it doesn't crumble or pack up shop and move along and/or becomes a Mujahadeen based group.
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Iran's military machine is far superior than that of other M.E
Nations. While outranked by pure size, strength, firepower and technology by the U.S, their wildcard is knowing NO ONE (except heartless GLP trolls) wants to turn the region into a wasteland. It's very likely that Iran's leaders would pull their own Sampson Option event--- "cut off the nose to spite the face" in the event of a directed conflict on their own turf.
A novel concept was enacted in the European theatre of WWII in Axis-controlled areas... airdrops of flyers, rations, and weapons---specifically liberator pistols.
Once civil unrest sets in as a result of the sanctions squeeze, it will take very little encouragement to set off an internal insurrection.
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For once you're right, sanctions on Iran are going to do the job just nicely :D
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Um I'm always right. Nothing has happened. Nothing will happen.
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Until something does happen. Then you'll be dead wrong. And something WILL happen, tensions are already spread too thin as it is. Iran isn't North Korea, they rely too much on international commerce to maintain their regime. It may take another three to five years even... Iran will either collapse from within, cave to western demands or go out in a blaze of unholy glory.
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The irony is that something happens every day. That's politics, constant change.
The nothing-happen-trolls (NHT) can't keep up, politics are way above their heads, their simple minds would rather be buried in the sand. A typical human defense mechanism to avoid facing their emotions. They are weak and under-educated and aren't offering anything in conversation except a thorn.

Some of us like to keep up with the waxing and wanes. There is knowledge within. Best to not feed the trolls.
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Lol... I dont feed trolls. I poke em with a sharp stick & watch them dance
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Syria intercepts Israeli missile south of Damascus

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question how was that possible for the Iranian missiles to enter the space of Israel entity without being taken buy the expensive useless so cold Dome or farts Israel is a paper tiger but desperately need to take the potatoes out of Fire with somebody else's hand which is the United States UK you name it
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Clearly he doesn't know how Iron Dome works.

I doubt one was in the area in the first place.
Secondly, even if there was one, it wouldn't have engaged because the rockets hit open space.
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Syria intercepts Israeli missile south of Damascus

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question how was that possible for the Iranian missiles to enter the space of Israel entity without being taken buy the expensive useless so cold Dome or farts Israel is a paper tiger but desperately need to take the potatoes out of Fire with somebody else's hand which is the United States UK you name it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12632420


Clearly he doesn't know how Iron Dome works.

I doubt one was in the area in the first place.
Secondly, even if there was one, it wouldn't have engaged because the rockets hit open space.
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That's what I was going at.

Considering iron dome is sensitive enough to pick up on RPGs it would have detected these rockets, and would have dropped them if they were of a threatening trajectory.
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This planet is hell. For all of us. The sooner you wake up to that fact the better.
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Its not hell, you just think it is.

Even if it was, just make a heaven out of hell and tell the devil to go Fuck himself.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


From my experiences on this rock I tend to think otherwise. If you can manage to feel happy on this planet I say good for you. No sarcasm. I think I was stuck in this place as punishment. This is a fallen world.
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"Oh my goth! I'm SOOO depressed!!! I'm just gonna dye, dye, DYE MY HAIR BLACK!!!"

Maybe if you'd leave your parents basement every once in a while, you might just see the sunshine.

You haven't even BEGUN to experience hell, my friend. Not by a long shot.
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Oh the parents basement joke. Hilarious. I know more of hell than you ever will even if you live a thousand lifetimes.
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Doom ON!
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What happened?
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Happy Sunday June 2nd folks. Oh I almost forgot... nothing will happen
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Doom ON!
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What happened?
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Nothing just a couple rockets from Syria territory and a Israeli airstrike in response, rinse and repeat.
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Doom ON!
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What happened?
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Nothing just a couple rockets from Syria territory and a Israeli airstrike in response, rinse and repeat.
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Same old tit for tat that has been going on for decades.
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Doom ON!
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What happened?
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Nothing just a couple rockets from Syria territory and a Israeli airstrike in response, rinse and repeat.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Same old tit for tat that has been going on for decades.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yeah exactly unless it goes balls deep in rocket salvos or overt Assad action with regards to Golan we will come across moments like this or at worst the T4 base strikes last year.
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al Asqa mosque prayers on al Quds Day.

Low turn out in Berlin for Iranian speakers. lots of Israel flags waving by Germans.

"Meet Mohammed Ali al-Houthi, a senior Houthi leader. The Washington Post published an oped by him in which he wrote, "We love peace." Today he chanted, “Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jezzs,(edit) Victory to Islam.” He was celebrating the Iranian-instigated Quds Day."
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Boko Haram areas in Nigeria burning American and Israel flags on al Quds Day.
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"U.S. prepared to engage with Iran without pre-conditions: Pompeo"
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"U.S. prepared to engage with Iran without pre-conditions: Pompeo"
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Iran won't talk.

They will continue to attack by proxy and become more and more belligerent as the sanctions take hold.
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"U.S. prepared to engage with Iran without pre-conditions: Pompeo"
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will be the stupidest and last mistake of Usofa..

But Hey! At some point USofa deserves a big slap in a face to be put in place by the World...
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"U.S. prepared to engage with Iran without pre-conditions: Pompeo"
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Iran won't talk.

They will continue to attack by proxy and become more and more belligerent as the sanctions take hold.
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Right.
But US has to offer ALL options to be perfectly sure they offered ALL options.
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"U.S. prepared to engage with Iran without pre-conditions: Pompeo"
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Boooooo we want doom
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It would take a lot.

The US knows very well what a war with Iran would cost and that cost is very high.

Iran would have to directly attack US assets in the region and that's something they won't do.

They don't want war either because the cost would be very high to them as well.

They don't want any part of us.
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I missed that, when did the "US" release a comment? Or, was it that same fat-faced liberal Canadian speaking for our entire military again.

Dude---its great to have an opinion, but don't speak on behalf of everyone else.

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It wasn't an opinion piece the article quoted pentagon officials.

As I said before, have you been in a war?

Have to talked to military intelligence and people in the know in an actual war zone?

Have you talked to generals about war strategies and functionality?

Well I have.

Your a moron if you think a war with Iran would be anything other than a burning hell.

I can't stand people like you that think they know anything about war, having never been there.

The article was very widely spread and quoted in numerous publications, not just the Canadian one.

You're a dumbass dude. Plain and simple.

You don't know what the Fuck you're talking about.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You missed the entire point of my post. You stated "The US knows"

The US is a country, an entire country of 100's of millions of people. One article from 10 years ago from a foreign journalist which included a few aggregated quotes does not necessarily represent "The US".

The author of that article and the few people he quoted don't speak for entirety of the US. No one does.

And I'm not even going to waste my time on your personal insults. Nice red for my posts....never once said I knew a lot about war, never claimed to be an expert. I simply don't think military and diplomatic strategy should be based on a 10+ year old article by an opinionated journalist from another country who selected specific quotes that backed up his opinion.

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It would take a lot.

The US knows very well what a war with Iran would cost and that cost is very high.

Iran would have to directly attack US assets in the region and that's something they won't do.

They don't want war either because the cost would be very high to them as well.

They don't want any part of us.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


I missed that, when did the "US" release a comment? Or, was it that same fat-faced liberal Canadian speaking for our entire military again.

Dude---its great to have an opinion, but don't speak on behalf of everyone else.

 Quoting: Billy Ringo


It wasn't an opinion piece the article quoted pentagon officials.

As I said before, have you been in a war?

Have to talked to military intelligence and people in the know in an actual war zone?

Have you talked to generals about war strategies and functionality?

Well I have.

Your a moron if you think a war with Iran would be anything other than a burning hell.

I can't stand people like you that think they know anything about war, having never been there.

The article was very widely spread and quoted in numerous publications, not just the Canadian one.

You're a dumbass dude. Plain and simple.

You don't know what the Fuck you're talking about.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You missed the entire point of my post. You stated "The US knows"

The US is a country, an entire country of 100's of millions of people. One article from 10 years ago from a foreign journalist which included a few aggregated quotes does not necessarily represent "The US".

The author of that article and the few people he quoted don't speak for entirety of the US. No one does.

And I'm not even going to waste my time on your personal insults. Nice red for my posts....never once said I knew a lot about war, never claimed to be an expert. I simply don't think military and diplomatic strategy should be based on a 10+ year old article by an opinionated journalist from another country who selected specific quotes that backed up his opinion.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


The US is war wary so it does know by majority that a new war in the middle east would be bad news.
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I missed that, when did the "US" release a comment? Or, was it that same fat-faced liberal Canadian speaking for our entire military again.

Dude---its great to have an opinion, but don't speak on behalf of everyone else.

 Quoting: Billy Ringo


It wasn't an opinion piece the article quoted pentagon officials.

As I said before, have you been in a war?

Have to talked to military intelligence and people in the know in an actual war zone?

Have you talked to generals about war strategies and functionality?

Well I have.

Your a moron if you think a war with Iran would be anything other than a burning hell.

I can't stand people like you that think they know anything about war, having never been there.

The article was very widely spread and quoted in numerous publications, not just the Canadian one.

You're a dumbass dude. Plain and simple.

You don't know what the Fuck you're talking about.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You missed the entire point of my post. You stated "The US knows"

The US is a country, an entire country of 100's of millions of people. One article from 10 years ago from a foreign journalist which included a few aggregated quotes does not necessarily represent "The US".

The author of that article and the few people he quoted don't speak for entirety of the US. No one does.

And I'm not even going to waste my time on your personal insults. Nice red for my posts....never once said I knew a lot about war, never claimed to be an expert. I simply don't think military and diplomatic strategy should be based on a 10+ year old article by an opinionated journalist from another country who selected specific quotes that backed up his opinion.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


The US is war wary so it does know by majority that a new war in the middle east would be bad news.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Not to mention it would be a major war against a large country with a powerful military and thousands of ballistic missiles.

Its madness!

Anything but war.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

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"U.S. prepared to engage with Iran without pre-conditions: Pompeo"
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will be the stupidest and last mistake of Usofa..

But Hey! At some point USofa deserves a big slap in a face to be put in place by the World...
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Your va-jay-jay still sore over WWII? I'm not surprised, it got pounded pretty hard. At least we were generous enough to let the Russians get a poke at your G-spot.. err... I mean Berlin
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Last night, 2 rockets were launched from Syria to Israel, 1 landing within Israeli territory. In response, we struck a number of Syrian Armed Forces military targets.
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check out link,it`s IDF twitter pages226
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It wasn't an opinion piece the article quoted pentagon officials.

As I said before, have you been in a war?

Have to talked to military intelligence and people in the know in an actual war zone?

Have you talked to generals about war strategies and functionality?

Well I have.

Your a moron if you think a war with Iran would be anything other than a burning hell.

I can't stand people like you that think they know anything about war, having never been there.

The article was very widely spread and quoted in numerous publications, not just the Canadian one.

You're a dumbass dude. Plain and simple.

You don't know what the Fuck you're talking about.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


You missed the entire point of my post. You stated "The US knows"

The US is a country, an entire country of 100's of millions of people. One article from 10 years ago from a foreign journalist which included a few aggregated quotes does not necessarily represent "The US".

The author of that article and the few people he quoted don't speak for entirety of the US. No one does.

And I'm not even going to waste my time on your personal insults. Nice red for my posts....never once said I knew a lot about war, never claimed to be an expert. I simply don't think military and diplomatic strategy should be based on a 10+ year old article by an opinionated journalist from another country who selected specific quotes that backed up his opinion.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


The US is war wary so it does know by majority that a new war in the middle east would be bad news.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Not to mention it would be a major war against a large country with a powerful military and thousands of ballistic missiles.

Its madness!

Anything but war.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


We heard this same crap about Iraq, back in the 90s. How powerful their military and weapons were. We obliterated them, with ease.
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You missed the entire point of my post. You stated "The US knows"

The US is a country, an entire country of 100's of millions of people. One article from 10 years ago from a foreign journalist which included a few aggregated quotes does not necessarily represent "The US".

The author of that article and the few people he quoted don't speak for entirety of the US. No one does.

And I'm not even going to waste my time on your personal insults. Nice red for my posts....never once said I knew a lot about war, never claimed to be an expert. I simply don't think military and diplomatic strategy should be based on a 10+ year old article by an opinionated journalist from another country who selected specific quotes that backed up his opinion.
 Quoting: Billy Ringo


The US is war wary so it does know by majority that a new war in the middle east would be bad news.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Not to mention it would be a major war against a large country with a powerful military and thousands of ballistic missiles.

Its madness!

Anything but war.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


We heard this same crap about Iraq, back in the 90s. How powerful their military and weapons were. We obliterated them, with ease.
 Quoting: IsraelWins


6 month build up, 500,000 troops over 1000 fighter planes and no Russian objection.

It was not easy. Many, many planes shot down.

Oh ya, we are still their with Iran in more control than US. No westerner can leave the green zone.
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You are absolutely right.

It would be a complete shitstorm that would make Iraq and Afghanistan look like a Girl scout bake sale.

Respect to you and your knowledge.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


The thoughts the two of you shared, make good sense to me. It does bring some further thoughts to the forefront of my mind though...

With Saudi Arabia uniting the Arab world against Iran, does it bring about the possibility of an American led coalition against a nuclear Iran? One where American special forces secure important locations, but the Saudi coalition do the majority of the ground offensive.

I could see Trump trying to sell this to the American people by saying the Saudi's are paying for the war by buying American hardware.

Is there really no way for a war with Iran that doesn't involve a massive US manpower cost?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76615839


The trouble with the Arab coalition is they have no competence the commanders tend to keep information to themselves so they're ensuring their value and protection theres no initiative on the ground so reactions are slow and ineffective the bulk of the forces are usually are down to conscription forces theres often low morale and open to corruption...

These are not the troops you would use to secure the sites especially something as important as Iran's sites, or rather they wouldn't be relied upon to protect locations of vital infrastructure especially with a dismantling process it's why in Syria we saw Russia effectively over seeing the removal of Syrian chemical weapons...

Then theres also the Shia v Sunni issue, not to mention Arab v Persian it would be a bloody civil war which would make things all the more unstable across the entire middle east...

It would be one of those things if you want the job done right do it yourself, even if the Arab troops were used as a holding force there would have to be a US element there to ensure it doesn't crumble or pack up shop and move along and/or becomes a Mujahadeen based group.
 Quoting: Stand Sure


Iran's military machine is far superior than that of other M.E
Nations. While outranked by pure size, strength, firepower and technology by the U.S, their wildcard is knowing NO ONE (except heartless GLP trolls) wants to turn the region into a wasteland. It's very likely that Iran's leaders would pull their own Sampson Option event--- "cut off the nose to spite the face" in the event of a directed conflict on their own turf.
A novel concept was enacted in the European theatre of WWII in Axis-controlled areas... airdrops of flyers, rations, and weapons---specifically liberator pistols.
Once civil unrest sets in as a result of the sanctions squeeze, it will take very little encouragement to set off an internal insurrection.
 Quoting: Hiram's Apprentice


Yea right please?! Iran's military is a clown show. It can not even defend itself inside Syria. If you think it is superior than other Middle East countries you are kidding yourself. Take a look at these flying "Turd Buckets" and ask yourself this? Outside of dropping a fecal logs in the Persian Gulf, what else are they good for?