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Bombshell science study shows that electric cars are DIRTIER for the planet than diesel vehicles

 
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Another study a couple years back said electic vehicles were not cleaner than gasoline ones

this is even better


will link to the university study if I can get someone to find it for me

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You get today’s environment when the government controls what facts and psuedoscience are regardless of reality actually is. They use this power to control you.
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05/05/2019 04:04 PM
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Sweden wants only electric cars and sold SAAB for more than half to China.
They are now producing millions of cars for China first.
After that we all have to have one basically running on 5G IOT.

Also sharing a car is being pushed then.
They gave China lithium garanty as well.
It don´t matter Sweden and the rest of the palnet gets blown up for raw materials to make batteries.

We just call it Agenda 2020-2090 and sustainable bla bla bla and it is OK.unicorn-1fingr
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The world is insane, especially when it comes to the environment.
Batteries require mining, refining of metals, transportation, forming, oil based plastic cases, they add extra weight which requires more energy use to over come.
The emission laws were designed to focus on NOX emissions.
NOX emissions combine with VOCs in a endothermic reaction that absorbs solar energy and creates smog.
This creates a local cooling effect just like when plants absorb sunlight to grow, both processes are endothermic(absorb thermal energy).
Smog blocks sunlight from reaching the earth in particular where there is a lot of concrete and blacktop which acts as a thermal battery.
To understand thermal batteries research the stones people used to heat on wood burning stoves and then place under or near their beds to keep them warm through the night.
Two companies created software that cut CO2 emissions by 25-50% without any mechanical changes.
This software also increased NOX emissions.
The EPA, whose mission statement is to protect the environment had a statement on their website that said "global climate change is the greatest threat to the environment".
The EPA did not applaud these companies efforts to reduce carbon emissions and improve efficiency, they filed suit because of NOX which is not a contributor to global climate change.
These companies were V.W. and Derive systems.
There were tests that proved the VW hack cut fuel consumption and CO2 emissions by 50%, and the Derive systems produced a tuner that would reduce the fuel consumption and carbon emissions of nearly any brand vehicle by 25-30%.
If you are looking for a conspiracy theory angle, the emission control devices approved by the EPA were designed and patented by oil companies.
When the mid 70s oil shortage hit the U.S. the government was in negotiations to change the emission control rules to focus on efficiency, instead of NOX.
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05/05/2019 04:13 PM
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:co2history:
 Quoting: Chip


I cant read that chip. Your posts are so worthless

WARDENCLYFFE TOWER folks. Whatever bullshit anyone ever tells you about how a government/corporation is helping to save the planet, stop climate change, reduce emissions, or reduce energy. Simply tell them WARDENCLYFFE TOWER and then tell them to fuck off.

That's what I do anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69751314


well, fine then. why don't you find an J.P. Morgan sugardaddy
and build a Wardenclyffe Tower. and then what are you
going to do with it?

Tesla never did anything with his.
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Just in time for hemp bio-diesel to enter the scene and save the world.
 Quoting: TheBlands


Henry Ford already had a 100% Hemp Vehicle powered by Hemp Diesal..

The petrochemical industry lobby shut him down because they are part of the military industrial complex

however the time is now for a re-introduction of this concept car and make a truly great bio diesal vehicle.

Also Hydrogen powered cars are ALREADY here and are ready to go!

Toyota Corolla Hydrogen and Nissan hydrogen cars!

Oil power is fine but i for one do not enjoy living in a disgusting polluted world

I like to breathe clean air not fuel hydrocarbons
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The world is insane, especially when it comes to the environment.
Batteries require mining, refining of metals, transportation, forming, oil based plastic cases, they add extra weight which requires more energy use to over come.
The emission laws were designed to focus on NOX emissions.
NOX emissions combine with VOCs in a endothermic reaction that absorbs solar energy and creates smog.
This creates a local cooling effect just like when plants absorb sunlight to grow, both processes are endothermic(absorb thermal energy).
Smog blocks sunlight from reaching the earth in particular where there is a lot of concrete and blacktop which acts as a thermal battery.
To understand thermal batteries research the stones people used to heat on wood burning stoves and then place under or near their beds to keep them warm through the night.
Two companies created software that cut CO2 emissions by 25-50% without any mechanical changes.
This software also increased NOX emissions.
The EPA, whose mission statement is to protect the environment had a statement on their website that said "global climate change is the greatest threat to the environment".
The EPA did not applaud these companies efforts to reduce carbon emissions and improve efficiency, they filed suit because of NOX which is not a contributor to global climate change.
These companies were V.W. and Derive systems.
There were tests that proved the VW hack cut fuel consumption and CO2 emissions by 50%, and the Derive systems produced a tuner that would reduce the fuel consumption and carbon emissions of nearly any brand vehicle by 25-30%.
If you are looking for a conspiracy theory angle, the emission control devices approved by the EPA were designed and patented by oil companies.
When the mid 70s oil shortage hit the U.S. the government was in negotiations to change the emission control rules to focus on efficiency, instead of NOX.
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i don't give shit.

i'd still rather drive a tesla than any other car.
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If you do not give a shit, imagine all of the cool cars you could drive that are not sylistically challenged electric egg whisks.
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Re: Bombshell science study shows that electric cars are DIRTIER for the planet than diesel vehicles
Always knew that source of power generation would be a factor.
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Re: Bombshell science study shows that electric cars are DIRTIER for the planet than diesel vehicles
They actually needed scientific studies to prove that shit?

Electricity is a secondary form of energy. That's all you need to know right there. How much fossil fuels are you gonna have to burn to generate the massive amounts of electricity needed to power billions of cars? Not to mention rate of return, the impossibility to store massive, excess amounts of electricity and all that good shit.


Somehow, these fucking green buffoons with ZERO scientific or technical insight are thinking electricity magically comes out of the wall and is always present.

The only viable alternative has been around for decades and it's hydrogen. But let's all just ignore that to death for whatever reason. Everyone could've been driving on hydrogen for over 25 years ... Not to mention that we actually need whatever fossil fuels are left to produce everything else that makes up a car itself, aviation, strategical war reserves, pesticides, plastics, chemicals, medicine and so forth.

Diesels have been made so efficient that no other combustion system can parallel it, yet it's being vilified and taxed unlike anything else. THAT is all the proof you need to know that this green delusional mass-psychosis was nothing but a giant scam for more taxes and for the "green economy" dictators like Gore that have been peddling horseshit for bags full of kick-back dollars.

It ain't the fooken' CO2 that's the problem. It's massive over-population and the destruction of forests à go-go mainly in the turd world, of course, where your expensive, ultra-efficient secondhand diesels will be driving around for decades to come after you've bought yourself an electric midget piece of shit car at 7 times the price of a regular one. Apefrika, South Ass-merica and the Middle Beast are rubbing their hands already for yet another masochistically deranged do-good'er free-for-all.
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:co2history:
 Quoting: Chip


This right here.

Mother Earth will do as she pleases just like she has done for the last billion years. We are but ants on a ride.

This whole climate change caused by humans is a scam.
 Quoting: Toledo Steel


A very lucrative scam
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Just in time for hemp bio-diesel to enter the scene and save the world.
 Quoting: TheBlands


yeah, we've been waiting for more than 100 years already!
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bump!
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Re: Bombshell science study shows that electric cars are DIRTIER for the planet than diesel vehicles
Your information dense post hints at a larger problem; one that I have been whittling away at for some time.

That somehow - making stupid decisions increases the money supply because the money supply depends on ever increasing levels of debt. Thus we witness a constant barrage of stupid decisions that serve to increase debt.

Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments


The world is insane, especially when it comes to the environment.
Batteries require mining, refining of metals, transportation, forming, oil based plastic cases, they add extra weight which requires more energy use to over come.
The emission laws were designed to focus on NOX emissions.
NOX emissions combine with VOCs in a endothermic reaction that absorbs solar energy and creates smog.
This creates a local cooling effect just like when plants absorb sunlight to grow, both processes are endothermic(absorb thermal energy).
Smog blocks sunlight from reaching the earth in particular where there is a lot of concrete and blacktop which acts as a thermal battery.
To understand thermal batteries research the stones people used to heat on wood burning stoves and then place under or near their beds to keep them warm through the night.
Two companies created software that cut CO2 emissions by 25-50% without any mechanical changes.
This software also increased NOX emissions.
The EPA, whose mission statement is to protect the environment had a statement on their website that said "global climate change is the greatest threat to the environment".
The EPA did not applaud these companies efforts to reduce carbon emissions and improve efficiency, they filed suit because of NOX which is not a contributor to global climate change.
These companies were V.W. and Derive systems.
There were tests that proved the VW hack cut fuel consumption and CO2 emissions by 50%, and the Derive systems produced a tuner that would reduce the fuel consumption and carbon emissions of nearly any brand vehicle by 25-30%.
If you are looking for a conspiracy theory angle, the emission control devices approved by the EPA were designed and patented by oil companies.
When the mid 70s oil shortage hit the U.S. the government was in negotiations to change the emission control rules to focus on efficiency, instead of NOX.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75187609





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