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Jesus is THE HOLY SPIRIT.

 
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Amen amen.
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Eph?, there is more than one Lord as there is more than one universe..

The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The Lord shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. - Psalm 110:1-3



Then, when the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus questioned them,

saying: “What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?” They said to him, “David’s.”

He said to them: “Then how can David, in the Spirit, call him Lord, saying:

The Lord said to my Lord: Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool?’

So then, if David calls him Lord, how can he be his son?” - Jesus in Matthew 22:41-45



But then again, there are minor to great prophets and prophetesses.
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The God said to my God.
Jesus is also the Father God

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Jesus is Father Son and Holy Spirit.

St. Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

The Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

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Jesus is God. Read the Holy Bible. Jesus bless you.
Keep the Holy Spirit:
John 14:15
[15]If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:5-6,9-10
[5]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
[6]If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
[9]As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
[10]If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

We show Jesus we love him by keeping his commandments, and in so doing he by the Spirit of God remains in us. If you don't keep his commandments then you don't love him and he is not in you.
10 commandments in Exodus chapter 20
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Luke 21;
Jesus speaking: 12But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. On account of My name they will deliver you to the synagogues and prisons, and they will bring you before kings and governors. 13This will be your opportunity to serve as witnesses. 14So make up your mind not to worry beforehand how to defend yourselves. 15For I will give you speech and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.

Parallel passage in Mark 13:
Jesus speaking - 9So be on your guard. You will be delivered over to the councils and beaten in the synagogues. On My account you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. 10And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all the nations. 11But when they arrest you and hand you over, do not worry beforehand what to say. Instead, speak whatever you are given at that time, for it will not be you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.
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5 star dumb asses here. 2019 and still don't know..
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Roman Catholicism teaches that Mary was married to the holy spirit....most goddess religions have the son of the goddess to be her consort/lover as well....

Making Mary both the mother and wife...hence why they need the Holy Spirit to be a "third person" and not Jesus, masking what they are really teaching in their doctrines
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2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4,5
There is one Spirit, one Lord

1 Cor 15:47
The second man is the Lord from heaven.

Ephesians 6:17
The Spirit is the Word of God.
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John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;[/b] neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,
he shall testify of me:
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2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4,5
There is one Spirit, one Lord

1 Cor 15:47
The second man is the Lord from heaven.

Ephesians 6:17
The Spirit is the Word of God.
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John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;[/b] neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,
he shall testify of me:
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The trinity. Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
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And here is islams error - a large percentage of modern Islam use the following two verses, scraped out of context, to make "Mohammed" the Holy Spirit;

Deuteronomy 18:18 and John 14:25-26, taken out of context and used to build an erroneous belief that Muhammad fulfilled Biblical prophecy.

“I [God] will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18

“But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” John 14:25-26

Considering all of John 14-16, it's Jesus whom clearly refers to himself as the advocate, the spirit of truth, the Holy Spirit. Which truth - if accepted - destroys the twisting and distrorting of scripture solely by islam to defend its 'prophet'.
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Tertullian

“We do indeed believe that there is only one God, but we believe that under this dispensation, or, as we say, oikonomia, there is also a Son of this one only God, his Word, who proceeded from him and through whom all things were made and without whom nothing was made. . . . We believe he was sent down by the Father, in accord with his own promise, the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father and the Son, and in the Holy Spirit. . . . This rule of faith has been present since the beginning of the gospel, before even the earlier heretics” (Against Praxeas 2 [A.D. 216]).

“And at the same time the mystery of the oikonomia is safeguarded, for the unity is distributed in a Trinity. Placed in order, the three are the Father, Son, and Spirit. They are three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in being, but in form; not in power, but in kind; of one being, however, and one condition and one power, because he is one God of whom degrees and forms and kinds are taken into account in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” (ibid.).

“Keep always in mind the rule of faith which I profess and by which I bear witness that the Father and the Son and the Spirit are inseparable from each other, and then you will understand what is meant by it. Observe now that I say the Father is other [distinct], the Son is other, and the Spirit is other. This statement is wrongly understood by every uneducated or perversely disposed individual, as if it meant diversity and implied by that diversity a separation of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” (ibid., 9).

“Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent persons, who are yet distinct one from another. These three are, one essence, not one person, as it is said, ‘I and my Father are one’ [John 10:30], in respect of unity of being not singularity of number” (ibid., 25).
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Remember to post tomorrow to remind us he is the holy spirit.
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2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4,5
There is one Spirit, one Lord

1 Cor 15:47
The second man is the Lord from heaven.

Ephesians 6:17
The Spirit is the Word of God.
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John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;[/b] neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,
he shall testify of me:
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EXACTLY.

Amen!!
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John 16:12-15 "the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.


John 12:49 “For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.”

John 14:10 “The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me,”

Revelation 1:1 “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;”
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Roman Catholicism teaches that Mary was married to the holy spirit....most goddess religions have the son of the goddess to be her consort/lover as well....

Making Mary both the mother and wife...hence why they need the Holy Spirit to be a "third person" and not Jesus, masking what they are really teaching in their doctrines
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Yes, Roman Catholics have at least two extra intercessors. The "Holy Spirit of the trinity/3rd person of the godhead", and "Mary/Queen of Heaven/Astarte" (PLUS a legion of undead saints).
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And here is islams error - a large percentage of modern Islam use the following two verses, scraped out of context, to make "Mohammed" the Holy Spirit;

Deuteronomy 18:18 and John 14:25-26, taken out of context and used to build an erroneous belief that Muhammad fulfilled Biblical prophecy.

“I [God] will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18

“But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” John 14:25-26

Considering all of John 14-16, it's Jesus whom clearly refers to himself as the advocate, the spirit of truth, the Holy Spirit. Which truth - if accepted - destroys the twisting and distrorting of scripture solely by islam to defend its 'prophet'.
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The sad thing (for Muslims) as I disclosed on page 1, is that the Quran teaches that "Gabriel" is the Holy Spirit, not Muhammad.
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Luke 21;
Jesus speaking: 12But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. On account of My name they will deliver you to the synagogues and prisons, and they will bring you before kings and governors. 13This will be your opportunity to serve as witnesses. 14So make up your mind not to worry beforehand how to defend yourselves. 15For I will give you speech and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.

Parallel passage in Mark 13:
Jesus speaking - 9So be on your guard. You will be delivered over to the councils and beaten in the synagogues. On My account you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. 10And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all the nations. 11But when they arrest you and hand you over, do not worry beforehand what to say. Instead, speak whatever you are given at that time, for it will not be you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.
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Bingo, let's all be taught by God.
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Ecclesiasticus 6:7-8,14-16

7 If thou wouldest get a friend, prove him first and be not hasty to credit him.

8 For some man is a friend for his own occasion, and will not abide in the day of thy trouble.

14 A faithfull friend is a strong defence: and he that hath found such an one hath found a treasure.

15 Nothing doth countervail a faithful friend, and his excellency is invaluable.

16 A faithful friend is the medicine of life; and they that fear the Lord shall find him.
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Genesis 2:18
Then the LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him."

John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Genesis 3:20
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."

Galatians 4:26
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
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2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4,5
There is one Spirit, one Lord

1 Cor 15:47
The second man is the Lord from heaven.

Ephesians 6:17
The Spirit is the Word of God.
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The word for oneness used is the greek word for grapes of the same bunch. The essential essence of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is the same essence.
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Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are j_ews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are j_ews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
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2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4,5
There is one Spirit, one Lord

1 Cor 15:47
The second man is the Lord from heaven.

Ephesians 6:17
The Spirit is the Word of God.
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John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;[/b] neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,
he shall testify of me:
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EXACTLY.

Amen!!
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You removed the part of my response where I said THE TRINITY is clearly shown in the scriptures.

Three in one.

Both Jesus and the Holy Spirit PROCEEDED forth from God the Father.

3 from 1.

Why is this so hard for anyone to understand? Even the OT mentions it.

Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

It is not some catholic made up doctrine. The trinity is completely biblical, and guess what?

Jesus didn't just show up in the New Testament!

Even the NT talks about Jesus being with God in the beginning. (John ch1)

Who do you think Jacob wrestled with?

Who do you think Moses and the priests saw on Mount Sinai?
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2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4,5
There is one Spirit, one Lord

1 Cor 15:47
The second man is the Lord from heaven.

Ephesians 6:17
The Spirit is the Word of God.
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John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;[/b] neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,
he shall testify of me:
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EXACTLY.

Amen!!
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You removed the part of my response where I said THE TRINITY is clearly shown in the scriptures.

Three in one.

Both Jesus and the Holy Spirit PROCEEDED forth from God the Father.

3 from 1.

Why is this so hard for anyone to understand? Even the OT mentions it.

Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

It is not some catholic made up doctrine. The trinity is completely biblical, and guess what?

Jesus didn't just show up in the New Testament!

Even the NT talks about Jesus being with God in the beginning. (John ch1)

Who do you think Jacob wrestled with?

Who do you think Moses and the priests saw on Mount Sinai?
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Why would anyone want to lesson who Jesus is?

He is the only way, the only truth and the only life.

Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

That is not a contradiction.
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He is the only way,
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Ecclesiastes 11:5
As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit,
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Why would anyone want to lesson who Jesus is?

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I don't know, you tell us; you are the one with a second Lord, and mediator, who raplaces Jesus called "the Holy Spirit" of "the trinity".
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Who do you think Jacob wrestled with?
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An angel.

Who do you think Moses and the priests saw on Mount Sinai?
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The Word. God's glory.
Jesus is also the Father God

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Who do you think Jacob wrestled with?
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An angel.

Who do you think Moses and the priests saw on Mount Sinai?
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The Word. God's glory.
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It was Jesus both times.

Jesus showed himself to Moses like he did to Abraham. Afterward Moses asks Jesus to show him how glorious body, his true self, and that's when Jesus said No one (man) can see his face (in his glorious body) and live. However, he would reveal his back to him in his glorious body and that's why MtSinai lighted up when he walked by the cave in his light body.
Jesus is God. Read the Holy Bible. Jesus bless you.
Keep the Holy Spirit:
John 14:15
[15]If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:5-6,9-10
[5]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
[6]If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
[9]As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
[10]If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

We show Jesus we love him by keeping his commandments, and in so doing he by the Spirit of God remains in us. If you don't keep his commandments then you don't love him and he is not in you.
10 commandments in Exodus chapter 20
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2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4,5
There is one Spirit, one Lord

1 Cor 15:47
The second man is the Lord from heaven.

Ephesians 6:17
The Spirit is the Word of God.
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"I and my Father are one."

The Holy Trinity is but the Divine Light shown through the illusion of desperation, indeed all is ONE. Do not be concerned with semantics. They are not important.

What is important is that the Divine Light of Christ has returned and is manifesting the new Heaven and the New Earth even as you read these words.

We are all Christ as we are all ONE. We need only to believe and have faith in who we are. Know thyself man and you shall know the YOUniverse.

"Whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren, you do it to Me."
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You deceive yourself and go about deceiving.

You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

Your gnosticism versus the truth

You should "be concerned with semantics"... for those who twist and distort scripture ...twist and distort it unto their own destruction.
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Misunderstanding scripture is not the same as distorting it my friend. In your haste to prove everyone wrong, your pride has blinded you to the truth that you have so elegantly demonstrated for all of us to see through your quotations. If it were not for your boastfulness you would see clearly that what you have put forth is indeed in alignment with those teachings of Christ that declare we are to serve the Divine in all living beings.

"I and my Father are one"

The Holy Trinity is three separate aspects of the living G-d. Christ does indeed speak on behalf of the Lord and is yet ONE with the Lord G-d. Just as we are also separate from the spirit of Christ and yet are ONE.

G-d is present everywhere my friend and the Light of Christ is living within every heart that has opened its door to Him.

This is the immutable truth of the Lord thy G-d. To speak against it is to blaspheme the Soul/Sole/Sol. Choose your words wisely and speak only that which you are humble enough to understand.

Peace
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Trinitarians are possessed by the devil.

Christians are possessed by Christ.
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It was Jesus both times.

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Hosea 12:4
At Bethel, Jacob wrestled with an angel and won; then with tears in his eyes, he asked for a blessing, and God spoke to us there.

Jesus is an angel?

Jesus was overpowered by a man?