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Jesus is THE HOLY SPIRIT.

 
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It was Jesus both times.

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Hosea 12:4
At Bethel, Jacob wrestled with an angel and won; then with tears in his eyes, he asked for a blessing, and God spoke to us there.

Jesus is an angel?

Jesus was overpowered by a man?
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Jesus is the "angel of the Lord". Jesus is humanoid in the old testament and is human now. He does not exert his infiniteness over and against his creations. You could maybe out run him, he showed me that I could beat him in a game of chess, and Jacob pinned him.

Jesus is God, God is referred to as the "angel of the Lord" in the OT, Jesus is God, Jesus is the angel of the Lord. It's simple, what don't you get, that Jesus is God, or that God is referred to as the angel of the Lord in the OT?
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No, Jesus is not an angel or God.
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JOHN 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

How then are they one and the same? These are red letters not John speaking
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Because

St. John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
St. John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Present-tense "dwelleth", lives with you (HERE, NOW).
Jesus is God. Read the Holy Bible. Jesus bless you.
Keep the Holy Spirit:
John 14:15
[15]If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:5-6,9-10
[5]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
[6]If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
[9]As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
[10]If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

We show Jesus we love him by keeping his commandments, and in so doing he by the Spirit of God remains in us. If you don't keep his commandments then you don't love him and he is not in you.
10 commandments in Exodus chapter 20
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It was Jesus both times.

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Hosea 12:4
At Bethel, Jacob wrestled with an angel and won; then with tears in his eyes, he asked for a blessing, and God spoke to us there.

Jesus is an angel?

Jesus was overpowered by a man?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75106368


Jesus is the "angel of the Lord". Jesus is humanoid in the old testament and is human now. He does not exert his infiniteness over and against his creations. You could maybe out run him, he showed me that I could beat him in a game of chess, and Jacob pinned him.

Jesus is God, God is referred to as the "angel of the Lord" in the OT, Jesus is God, Jesus is the angel of the Lord. It's simple, what don't you get, that Jesus is God, or that God is referred to as the angel of the Lord in the OT?
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No, Jesus is not an angel or God.
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Study.
Jesus is God. Read the Holy Bible. Jesus bless you.
Keep the Holy Spirit:
John 14:15
[15]If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:5-6,9-10
[5]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
[6]If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
[9]As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
[10]If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

We show Jesus we love him by keeping his commandments, and in so doing he by the Spirit of God remains in us. If you don't keep his commandments then you don't love him and he is not in you.
10 commandments in Exodus chapter 20
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Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away:
for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you;
but if I depart, I will send him unto you.


John 16:7
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John 14:18
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. King James Version (KJV).
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KJV
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

NKJV
I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

NIV
I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

ESV
I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

NASB
I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.


orphanos, Greek

-bereft (of a father, of parents)
-- of those bereft of a teacher, guide, guardian
--orphaned


Strong's Definition
orphanós, or-fan-os'; of uncertain affinity; bereaved ("orphan"), i.e. parentless:—comfortless, fatherless.

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[link to www.blbclassic.org]
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Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away:
for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you;
but if I depart, I will send him unto you.


John 16:7
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No, Jesus is not an angel or God.
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False.

Jesus is God.
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Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away:
for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you;
but if I depart, I will send him unto you.


John 16:7
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John 14:18
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. King James Version (KJV).
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KJV
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

NKJV
I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

NIV
I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

ESV
I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

NASB
I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.


orphanos, Greek

-bereft (of a father, of parents)
-- of those bereft of a teacher, guide, guardian
--orphaned


Strong's Definition
orphanós, or-fan-os'; of uncertain affinity; bereaved ("orphan"), i.e. parentless:—comfortless, fatherless.

[link to www.blbclassic.org]

[link to www.blbclassic.org]
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Galatians 4:6
And because we are his children, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, prompting us to call out, “Abba, Father.”


Not the spirit who calls itself God who sits in the temple of God..



You study. And repent.
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No, Jesus is not an angel or God.
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False.

Jesus is God.
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John 20:17
Jesus said, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
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John 14:26

KJV
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

NKJV
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

NIV
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

ESV
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

NASB
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

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No, Jesus is not an angel or God.
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False.

Jesus is God.
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John 20:17
Jesus said, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
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Yes, He did..

God greatly exceeds us...
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Thomas called Him God to Him.
He praised Thomas...
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The Infinite Almighty Creator God

greatly exceeds the mere, finite created brains and minds of men.

We reside in three dimensions.

How many does God occupy?

All of them.

More...
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So you are here to say Jesus is not God?!

We will see you kneeling before Him.
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You know what you will not tell Him?

Anything...
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Last time we tangled,

he shut the place down...
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Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.

The other disciples therefore said to him, "We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."

And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!"

Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."

And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book;

but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.



John 20:24-31



Believe.
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but these are written

that you may believe

that Jesus is the Christ,

the Son of God,

and that believing '

you may have life

in His name.



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but these are written

that you may believe

that Jesus is the Christ,

the Son of God,

and that believing

you may have life

in His name.



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"Image" of God.

NOT God Himself -
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Ummm... you are seriously confused.

Your post is a Straw man.. I'm not even SAYING Jesus is God. He is the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 4:4,5 There is one Spirit, one Lord

1 Cor 8:6 There is only one Lord: Jesus

2 Cor 3:17 The Lord is the Spirit.

Your problem, is that you believe in 2 Spirits; 2 Masters.

I have one Lord: Jesus

Why don't you?
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My post is "straw man"?

Funny that Jesus said all of these...

...the Father is GREATER than I. John 14:28
...I do ONLY the Father's Will. John 6:37-39
...I PRAY to the Father. Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50
...I learned / do as the Father has showed me. John 5:19
...I give THANKS to the Father. John 11:41
...I don't KNOW when I will return...ONLY the Father KNOWS. Matthew 24:36
...I tell you to ask the Father in MY name. John 14:13
...I go to sit at the Father's right hand. Matthew 26:64 Mark 16:19
...I ASCEND to the Father, MY GOD and YOUR GOD. John 20:17
...the Father has given me authority. Matthew 28:18
...only the Father is good.. Luke 18:19

You keep posting PAULINE King James translational BULLSHIT.

In "olden times" anyone who was "higher" in social standing was called "lord". "Lord" is a generic term.

Jesus is called Lord as He was SENT by the Father - not only the Father's DIRECT "representative", but His ONLY BEGOTTEN Son. The Father GAVE Jesus "power" (authority) over heaven and earth - and all of us.

Who is Jesus' God? Who is Jesus' Father?

HINT - it's NOT Himself NOR His "spirit".
I am but a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.

The other disciples therefore said to him, "We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."

And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!"

Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."

And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book;

but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.


John 20:24-31 Believe.
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I am but a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Rev. 2:23
I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
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Proverbs 20:27 - The spirit of man [is] the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly. Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. Romans 8:16 - The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Job 33:4 4The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life


1Cor 15 45So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being;” the last Adam a life-giving spirit. 46The spiritual, however, was not first, but the natural, and then the spiritual.

Genesis 2:7
Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being

John 5:21
For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes

Jesus is our spirit!
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Good job.
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The holy spirit was before jesus
Whoever Jesus is he was just a container for it.
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That is not true.

The Holy Spirit is the Word (Ephesians 6:17), and is Jesus.
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Thank you OP but not sure how good of a job if I didn't show you the difference look at Romans 8 16 above

Ephesians 6:17 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

I see the helmet of Salvation and the Sword as the Word which is the oil for the Lamp or candle(Spirit)

Adam had fellowship until he sinned then the veil came down he lost fellowship with the father through the Holy Spirit, he still had the breath (spirit of man)son of man(the invisible man or inner man)

So the Heavenly Father set a plan in motion to restore man and lift the veil

We all share that same breath, it is not many breaths it is one an it is the son

Look at Job 33:4 posted above The spirit of God made, the breath gave life

Who was Adam walking with in the garden? if no man has seen the Father except the Son. or maybe the question should be Who was God walking with?

Luke 3:22 22and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.

restoration of spirit


Matthew 27:51 51At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split
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Look at Job 33:4 posted above The spirit of God made me
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John 1:10
He was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him.

Ps. 33:6
By the Word of the LORD the heavens were made

Ps 104:30
You send forth Your Spirit, they are created;

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God has made me.

John 14:17
The Spirit of truth. The world neither sees him nor knows him.






The Spirit of Truth is JESUS.
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The Spirit of Truth is JESUS.
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GNOSTIC GNONSENSE.

yoda
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The Spirit of Truth is JESUS.
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GNOSTIC GNONSENSE.

yoda
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Jude 5
5 Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
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The Spirit of Truth is JESUS.
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GNOSTIC GNONSENSE.

yoda
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Jude 5
5 Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
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1doh1 another do

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The Spirit of Truth is JESUS.
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GNOSTIC GNONSENSE.

yoda
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Jude 5
5 Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
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1doh1 another do

bonghit
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If you don't believe that Jesus is "I Am" you will die in your sins.
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Jude probably knew no man had seen the Father, so he seen the cloud and pillar of fire as the Son
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No, Jesus is not an angel or God.
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False.

Jesus is God.
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hesright
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No, Jesus is not an angel or God.
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False.

Jesus is God.
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hesright
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John 20:17
Jesus said, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"

Malachi 2:10
Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?

1 Cor 8:6
But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live.



1 God the Father who created everything.

Not Jesus.