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Jesus is THE HOLY SPIRIT.

 
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Sirach 14:22
Pursue wisdom like a hunter, and lie in wait on her paths.
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Matt 10:27
What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

Sirach 4:23-24
23 And refrain not to speak, when there is occasion to do good, and hide not thy wisdom in her beauty.
24 For by speech wisdom shall be known: and learning by the word of the tongue.
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Ps 51:12
Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
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Ecclesiasticus 6:22
For wisdom is according to her name, and she is not manifest unto many.

John 14:21
he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

1 Cor 1:24
Christ is the wisdom of God.
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Ecclesiasticus 6:18-19
18 My son, gather instruction from thy youth up: so shalt thou find wisdom till thine old age.
19 Come unto her as one that ploweth and soweth, and wait for her good fruits: for thou shalt not toil much in labouring about her, but thou shalt eat of her fruits right soon.
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John 6:27
Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.”
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Photine you have 2 Lords too just like TLS.

Lord is title of authority. The 711 clerk is my lord. Police officers are my lords. President Trump is my lord. Jesus Christ is my Lord, and God the Father also is my Lord. Did it just seem like I referred to 2 different people, Jesus and God the Father? I didn't.

Genesis 28:13
[13]And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;

Genesis 28:21
[21]So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:

Exodus 6:2
[2]And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:

1466 OT verses with "Lord" and "God" in them. But you say it's not Jesus, but you say there is only 1 Lord and it's not the Father God but it is Jesus.. but Jesus isn't God?! crazy! Amazing!

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Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul.
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Browsing some of the 1466 verses

Psalms 141:8
[8]But mine eyes are unto thee, O GOD the Lord: in thee is my trust; leave not my soul destitute.

Psalms 144:15
[15]Happy is that people, that is in such a case: yea, happy is that people, whose God is the LORD.


Try and convince Jesus that he's not God.

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Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul.
Jesus blesses you! <3
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Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
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God is spirit.
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Try and convince Jesus that he's not God.
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These are Jesus' OWN WORDS...which YOU ignore & DENY. 1doh1 1doh1 1doh1

John 20:17

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Luke 18:19

19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


John 5:19

19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

John 14:28

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

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Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
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God is spirit.
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Correct. Not "God is the Holy Spirit".

That's Jesus, the Spirit of Truth.
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Photine you have 2 Lords too just like TLS.
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Liar.

I have one Lord: Jesus.

You are a "oneness" antichrist who denies God and His Son (our Lord). Reprobate.
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Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
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God is spirit.
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Correct. Not "God is the Holy Spirit".

That's Jesus, the Spirit of Truth.
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NOPE.

Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led by the spirit up into the wilderness to be tempted by the Devil.

Led by WHAT "spirit"?

The Holy Spirit. The one that comes FROM the Father.
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The Holy Spirit. The one that comes FROM the Father.
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John 8:42
for I proceeded forth and came from God;

John 15:26
when the Comforter is come,...... the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,

The Spirit of Truth is Jesus.
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The Holy Spirit. The one that comes FROM the Father.
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John 8:42
for I proceeded forth and came from God;

John 15:26
when the Comforter is come,...... the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,

The Spirit of Truth is Jesus.
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lolatu

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The Holy Spirit. The one that comes FROM the Father.
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John 8:42
for I proceeded forth and came from God;

John 15:26
when the Comforter is come,...... the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,

The Spirit of Truth is Jesus.
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..
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The Bible says, Jesus is the Spirit, and if you don't have the Spirit of Jesus you don't belong to him.
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You are putting yourself on the same level as Jesus by the way. You are "calling yourself the messiah'
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The Holy Spirit. The one that comes FROM the Father.
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John 8:42
for I proceeded forth and came from God;

John 15:26
when the Comforter is come,...... the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father,

The Spirit of Truth is Jesus.

The Bible says, Jesus is the Spirit, and if you don't have the Spirit of Jesus you don't belong to him.

You are putting yourself on the same level as Jesus by the way. You are "calling yourself the messiah'
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NONSENSE.

Now you are just outright LYING.

You grab 2 verses and "mush" them together to get that Jesus is the "Holy Spirit" while DENYING what Jesus SAID.

The Holy Spirit is either sent by Jehovah Himself or at Jesus' request. "He" does NOTHING but the Father's Will.

There's no reason to be confused about the Holy Spirit. "He" is like a messenger / helper sent by either the Father Himself or by Jesus, and it does specific tasks with individuals or small groups. See these verses.

John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John 15:26 "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,

John 16:7 "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

He He He He He
He He He He He
He He He He He

John 16:13 "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
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The Holy Spirit is either sent by Jehovah Himself or at Jesus' request. "He" does NOTHING but the Father's Will.
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That is Jesus.

"For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me." Jn. 6:38

There's no reason to be confused about the Holy Spirit. "He" is like a messenger / helper sent by either the Father Himself or by Jesus, and it does specific tasks with individuals or small groups.
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Wrong.

There is no "other helper"/mediator/intercessor beside Jesus:

1 Tim 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

Romans 8:34
Christ Jesus, who died, and more than that was raised to life, is at the right hand of God--and He is interceding for us.

Romans 8:26
the Spirit himself intercedes for us.

John 16:13 "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
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The Spirit of Truth is Jesus, you're just blind to him:

John 12:49 “For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.”

John 14:10 “The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me,”

Revelation 1:1 “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;”

There is no "third one" who comes between us and Jesus and God.
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There's no reason to be confused about the Holy Spirit. "He" is like a messenger / helper sent by either the Father Himself or by Jesus, and it does specific tasks with individuals or small groups.
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Wrong.

There is no "other helper"/mediator/intercessor beside Jesus:


1 Tim 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

Romans 8:34
Christ Jesus, who died, and more than that was raised to life, is at the right hand of God--and He is interceding for us.
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dumbass

F'n NONSENSE. Jesus OWN WORDS PROVE YOU WRONG

John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John 15:26 "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,

John 16:7 "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

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Try and convince Jesus that he's not God.
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These are Jesus' OWN WORDS...which YOU ignore & DENY. 1doh1 1doh1 1doh1

John 20:17

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Luke 18:19

19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


John 5:19

19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

John 14:28

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
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You don't know him, that's the point I was making, that you can't even talk to Jesus because you don't know him. You're all head knowledge.
Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul.
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Try and convince Jesus that he's not God.
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These are Jesus' OWN WORDS...which YOU ignore & DENY. 1doh1 1doh1 1doh1

John 20:17

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Luke 18:19

19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


John 5:19

19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

John 14:28

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
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You don't know him, that's the point I was making, that you can't even talk to Jesus because you don't know him. You're all head knowledge.
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You can't argue with scripture so you try to attack me.

ANYONE who is being "told" by a supposed "Jesus" that He "is God" is being misled by satan.

Jesus OWN RECORDED WORDS CLEARY state that He is the SON OF GOD.

What Jesus said IS TRUTH.

He SAID "I am the SON OF GOD".

John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

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John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
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And right after that he says:

John 14:18
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Matt 28:20
I am with you always.

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


John 16:2525
These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.

Luke 12:12
For at that time the Holy Spirit will teach you what you should say."

Luke 21:15
For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

You have to take everything Jesus said into context. Not just those choice verses you always spam. Taking everything Jesus said into context you discover that Jesus is in fact the Holy Spirit.

the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me,
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John 8:42
for I proceeded forth and came from God

John 16:7 "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.
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John 7:39
But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet ... For the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus wasn't yet glorified
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According to the word that I covenanted with you when ye came out of Egypt, so my Spirit remaineth among you: fear ye not.

Haggai 2:5



For the word is very near to thee, in thy mouth and in thy heart

Deut 30:14
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Romans 8:9
And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

1 Jn 2:23
No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
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John 17:23
I in them and You in Me--that they may be perfectly united, so that the world may know that You sent Me and have loved them just as You have loved Me.
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John 14:20
In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.
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The Lord's servant is exerting tremendous energy defending a God he doesn't know and a Jesus he doesn't know.
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You - NOR anyone ELSE on here - would KNOW how well I know God and His Son.
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No one who denies the Son has the Son or the Father.

2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

You don't believe that Jesus is the Lord in that verse. So the veil remains covered, for you.
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No veil for me.

You THINK that everywhere the word "Lord" is used that it means Jesus?

Doesn't work in the KJV Old Testament, does it?

The OTHER mistake you are making is that you take those 2 verses out of context from the whole passage about Moses.

Try this - Hebrew Roots Bible

2 Corinthians

13 And not as "Moses, who put a veil over his face," for the sons of Israel not to look at the fullness of the glory of the thing not lasting. (Ex. 34:35)

14 But their minds were blinded; for to this day, when the Old Contract is read, the same veil remains, and it is not known to them that the veil has been removed through Messiah.

15 But even to this day, whenever the books of Moses are read, the veil lies upon their hearts.

16 Nevertheless, whenever a man turns to YAHWEH, the veil is taken away.

17 Now YAHWEH is that Spirit; and where the Spirit of YAHWEH is, there is freedom.

18 But we all with our face having been unveiled, see as in a mirror, the glory of YAHWEH, and we shall all be transformed into the same likeness, from one glory to another, just as the Spirit comes from YAHWEH.



The KJV is a good Bible but it's NOT perfect.
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What?
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Helping your // his (debatable) cause by summarising // generalizing.
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Who is this memorable person you speak of?
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The guy who could spin a yarn they say...
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...


What?
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Helping your // his (debatable) cause by summarising // generalizing.
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Who is this memorable person you speak of?
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The guy who could spin a yarn they say...
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I love kittens! Soft, furrywurry kitties! Whoopie!
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The Lord's servant is exerting tremendous energy defending a God he doesn't know and a Jesus he doesn't know.
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You - NOR anyone ELSE on here - would KNOW how well I know God and His Son.
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No one who denies the Son has the Son or the Father.

2 Cor 3:16-17
…16But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

You don't believe that Jesus is the Lord in that verse. So the veil remains covered, for you.
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No veil for me.

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Yup, you deny Jesus as Lord.

Or you have two Lords.

Take your pick





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