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Australia - third world country?

 
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Third world country haha - 11th richest in the world - here are true facts.

[link to m.statisticstimes.com]

How about safety? Crime?

[link to www.google.com.au (secure)]

Safest country in the world for women ...o but we have bogans - must be third world....

How about health? Let’s have a look...

[link to worldpopulationreview.com]

5th in the world.... yeah must be third world lol.

You are an idiot op.
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Yes it is hurtful truth but truth when you wake up but if you live in it and told every day you are the best you dont see it. You are not rich at all your houses so crappy like the third world and you pay 800 000 for crappy houses your earnings are big but you pay 10 dollars for beer and too much for everything. Car in US costs 20 k in Australia same car costs 40 or 50 k at least.

Even lndians think your best city is crappolas /r/melbourne/comments/75fkw5/melbourne_what_a_dump/
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Third world country haha - 11th richest in the world - here are true facts.

[link to m.statisticstimes.com]

How about safety? Crime?

[link to www.google.com.au (secure)]

Safest country in the world for women ...o but we have bogans - must be third world....

How about health? Let’s have a look...

[link to worldpopulationreview.com]

5th in the world.... yeah must be third world lol.

You are an idiot op.
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Yes it is hurtful truth but truth when you wake up but if you live in it and told every day you are the best you dont see it. You are not rich at all your houses so crappy like the third world and you pay 800 000 for crappy houses your earnings are big but you pay 10 dollars for beer and too much for everything. Car in US costs 20 k in Australia same car costs 40 or 50 k at least.

Even lndians think your best city is crappolas /r/melbourne/comments/75fkw5/melbourne_what_a_dump/
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Why does your little brain believe Australia has poor buildings?

[link to www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org]

Have a read my Australian hater

“Australia ranks at the top in civic engagement and above the average in income and wealth, environmental quality, health status, housing”

Time to find another insult about Australia.
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Third world country haha - 11th richest in the world - here are true facts.

[link to m.statisticstimes.com]

How about safety? Crime?

[link to www.google.com.au (secure)]

Safest country in the world for women ...o but we have bogans - must be third world....

How about health? Let’s have a look...

[link to worldpopulationreview.com]

5th in the world.... yeah must be third world lol.

You are an idiot op.
 Quoting: TassieLurker


Yes it is hurtful truth but truth when you wake up but if you live in it and told every day you are the best you dont see it. You are not rich at all your houses so crappy like the third world and you pay 800 000 for crappy houses your earnings are big but you pay 10 dollars for beer and too much for everything. Car in US costs 20 k in Australia same car costs 40 or 50 k at least.

Even lndians think your best city is crappolas /r/melbourne/comments/75fkw5/melbourne_what_a_dump/
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Why does your little brain believe Australia has poor buildings?

[link to www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org]

Have a read my Australian hater

“Australia ranks at the top in civic engagement and above the average in income and wealth, environmental quality, health status, housing”

Time to find another insult about Australia.
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Your opal tower is famous and is big indicator of quality, [link to www.macrobusiness.com.au (secure)]

Above average compared to Ghana is good but students in Kasakh have better math and probably better English. Look at houses in OPs video you can see the poor quality and if Youtuber thinks these are nice rich high class suburbs it shows you are all delusional about your quality Im sorry my friend its what it true. I looked them up on Google why does the stars of Hollywood and rich of Europe not live in your Chelmer or Sherwood or Shitney if they are sooooo goooood?
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Even lndians think your best city is crappolas /r/melbourne/comments/75fkw5/melbourne_what_a_dump/
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Opal Tower saga is very intwresting Im glad you speak about your high "quality"

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"Eventually one of these cage tower high rises is going to go up like a Roman candle with a massive loss of life.

And like Grenfells it will be found the building had 2 or 3 times the legal occupancy / packed full of migrant guestworkers illegally subletting.

World Tower 1,900 pass keys occupiers for 220 units.
8.8 persons per unit average. (3 times building design & safety levels)
Class action against Meriton who admitted their business model & strata fees were based on the invariably Asian foreign owned landlord running 8-10 migrant guestworkers per unit in sub let cash in hand bunk share.
The whole place a nest of migrant TR guestworkers renters in bunk share – working illegally, vice, 5 brothels & 11 escort agencies.
All foreign students & skilled visas or Non NZ born SCV. Chinese, North & South Asian, Indian, Nepalese, Bangladeshi, Middle Eastern.
Fire on level 15? about 3 years ago.
The biggest tallest Sydney fire engine articulated appliance couldn’t even get anywhere near the fire due to the building design.
It’s a 65 storey building.

Regis in Pitt Street – 2,300 Asian migrant guestworkers, for 282 units. Infested by south East Asian Chinese & Indian migrant guestworker TR in bunk share.
Drugs, prostitution, fire petrol attacks by migrants on other migrants, all on the public record.
Same at the Summit, Luminere opposite SCC town hall (Chinese & Korean vice HQ), Green Square, Quay apartments all the same.
Most of Mascot Square & Zetland or Rhodes.
Parramatta the new Mumba. Hundreds of thousands of low life migrant TR on pretext visas crammed into 4 – 6 bunks per room, sleeping inside wardrobes, on the floor.
The unit illegally partitioned with flammable plywood or sometimes just curtains.
Little cooking areas and the ubiquitous gas camping stoves – they will have 2 or 3 seperate gas camping stoves plus rice cookers often in the bedrooms, as 8-10 ‘foreign students’ or 3 families occupy the unit in third world filth & squalor.

Each person paying some $170-$230 a week for the standard bunk, wifi, toilet paper & bag of rice deal.

Their unit bought by foreign dirty money via a PR proxy and run as a sublet cash in hand goldmine pulling in $1,600-$2,000 a week rent.
Only $500 declared & the rest to the foreign criminal syndicate plus the proxy claims NG.

No checks on occupancy usage or fire safety.
Building managers in on the corruption.
Who is taking the bribes at the SCC & NSW fire authority to do nothing about the overcrowding & Fire risk?

#### Opal Tower ###

Was it Asian overcrowding cracked the Opal Tower?
Let’s see how many Asians were really packed into that building.

Report excerpt: “There is compelling evidence the wrong size reinforcing bars were placed in this area during manufacture of this panel — 20mm diameter bars were used instead of 28mm diameter bars,” the report found.

“It is likely that a combination of some of the above design and construction issues led to the observed structural damage on level 10.”

The engineers concluded that a “progressive build-up of load on the structure as [the] apartments became occupied” culminated in the cracking“.

Too many Asian migrant guestworkers in bunk share & subletting ?"
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Have you ever been to Australia Op?

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They look like the kind of houses you would see in low class America in a barrio or ghetto. I do tend to agree with the OP and his comments. The Youtube videographer may be excited and this shows that in his world that these houses are considered to be high class which in turn demonstrates just how poor the rest of the housing might be over there Down Under. Googling Brisbane leads me to see it is a city that has many social problems crime and is a long way from anywhere with sunny weather but that people think that it is great and others think it is really quite poor and tell of stories of leaving and never going back so I suppose it is the same old way and that is people do not always realize what else is out there and the media will tell them they are living in a wonderful city they will believe it. But OP and his comments I have to say look right those houses do look very ordinary and even poor.
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Little cunt.

Australia doesn't need nor want you....so how do you get in on the conversation then?
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Why so many abusive posts let through from Aussies?

Ironically you are proving OP is right. With a reaction like that you are a third worlder. Normal people would rebut the idea presented.
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They look like the kind of houses you would see in low class America in a barrio or ghetto. I do tend to agree with the OP and his comments. The Youtube videographer may be excited and this shows that in his world that these houses are considered to be high class which in turn demonstrates just how poor the rest of the housing might be over there Down Under. Googling Brisbane leads me to see it is a city that has many social problems crime and is a long way from anywhere with sunny weather but that people think that it is great and others think it is really quite poor and tell of stories of leaving and never going back so I suppose it is the same old way and that is people do not always realize what else is out there and the media will tell them they are living in a wonderful city they will believe it. But OP and his comments I have to say look right those houses do look very ordinary and even poor.
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Brissy isn't my favorite looking city either. That style of build I found pretty much just there, haven't seen much of Nth Qld. though so can't tell about the rest of the sate. However it is quite different in places like Sydney, Melbourne, Perth & Adelaide etc. OP is pointing to a small sample to pigeon hole the other 97%.
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They look like the kind of houses you would see in low class America in a barrio or ghetto. I do tend to agree with the OP and his comments. The Youtube videographer may be excited and this shows that in his world that these houses are considered to be high class which in turn demonstrates just how poor the rest of the housing might be over there Down Under. Googling Brisbane leads me to see it is a city that has many social problems crime and is a long way from anywhere with sunny weather but that people think that it is great and others think it is really quite poor and tell of stories of leaving and never going back so I suppose it is the same old way and that is people do not always realize what else is out there and the media will tell them they are living in a wonderful city they will believe it. But OP and his comments I have to say look right those houses do look very ordinary and even poor.
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Brissy isn't my favorite looking city either. That style of build I found pretty much just there, haven't seen much of Nth Qld. though so can't tell about the rest of the sate. However it is quite different in places like Sydney, Melbourne, Perth & Adelaide etc. OP is pointing to a small sample to pigeon hole the other 97%.
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Reports are that Syndey and Melbourne are worse and like Little Shangmumbhai

[link to www.macrobusiness.com.au (secure)]

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Really insightful analysis

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"Yep.
How Gurjas – the Indian mummy boy* now lives the dream.

*’the Indian mummy boy’ is usually the second or third born Indian son – the aspiration is the first son will to be the shopkeeper or business man, the second son to get the government job & the third or youngest son usually has the responsibility of looking after the mother & her sisters.
The son then marries pays a dowry etc & his wife becomes like a slave to look after the son’s mother.
The father btw is long gone, run off with another woman, abandoning the family is routine.

These poor Indian mothers, the sisters and the ‘mummy boy’ are highly targeted by the Indian migrant trafficking procurers & agents.

The mother is who the foreign criminal migrant traffickers sell to.
The mother is usually sick, kidney or intestinal or stuff, uneducated, poor, (the Indian slums & rural poor are the recruitment base for what comes into Australia).

So a ‘ Loan’ debt to the mother ($11k, it’s probably up to $15k or $20k now as been a while since I was in India, and the ‘Gurjas the mummy boy’ was packaged up with fake doc & probably a fake health check (paid substitutes are common, corrupted agent doctors).

The jobs / sponsorships, like the foreign student COE scams & spousal or family re-union are all racketeered via the syndicate in Australia. Gurjas was sent off as sponsored IT skilled network supervisor to Australia on a visa pretext.
Not exploited.
A willing participant in visa fraud long before entry. Paid money to be a participant. Read the windows support manual on the plane. Could barely speak English.

But motivated & fast learner. Gurjas works legally & illegally, the call centre, plus the garage & shelf stacking at the weekend fake ID’s & three time sheets, 70 hours a week or more. Paying the shakedown fee like they all do, but not paying any tax as under the threshold on the Fake ID jobs.
Tax back in fact on his legal job.

Multiple fake ID, cash ABN, labour rings, there is an whole Indian (and Chinese or Malay or Thai or Bangladeshi, Nepalese etc) foreign run ecosystem in Australia for him.
To live in their foreign owned ex Australian housing now run as sub let cash in hand bunk share, work in their foreign run legal & illegal jobs & to pay off that debt.
Abs then he can send back whatever else he has left as remittance money to the family.

His agent procurer loan debt of $11k became $18k, then his mother borrowed some more so $23k.

Gurjas lives in small 2 bed unit out in Belmore, sharing with 6 others Indians all doing the same.
He makes enough money to bring in his mother, her sisters, his two brothers in that order on tourist / visitor visas to share the ‘Belmore Australia dream’ .
(You may have to know Belmore to appreciate the irony).

They come in to work illegally as a tourist visitor. Hundreds of thousands are doing it.
Virtually no checks or enforcement.
ABF (now DHA) reported to the Parliamentary task force on migrant illegal workers in visa breach that at least 5% of the 8.8 million Tourist Visitors to Australia entered to work illegally.
So that’s 440,000 a year doing this.
Not just Asians & Indians but the whole mix, but it is mostly Chinese & Indians that have made up the huge ‘surge’ of new tourist visitors staying in ‘private shared accommodation’ and don’t appear to be tourists or just visiting.

Gurjas gets his PR.
Did he pay the Indian HR person for fake work documents that were never checked anyway?
Who would know.

Then an foreign syndicate arranged marriage to a cousin for a fee ($15k) to finalise the debt and get some money back. They later divorce & his ex then brings in her spousal for a fee to get her money back & her & his family & so on it goes in chain migration.

His mother & her sisters & then the brothers come into Australia on repeat visitor stays, working illegally, home & cleaning & so on plus probably frauding the Medicare, the transport concession passes & everything else.

All apply for the PR to get the Medicare & welfare plus spawn their own anchor chains of bringing in more as a third world social & healthcare burden.

How the Indian government loves this, bribes paid & they cleanse out their social burden & dump it onto the white dog.

Finally they become ‘citizens’.
They renounce the Indian (sole) passport, as an Australian citizen they can each sponsor in even more & make money out of it.

Gurjas, is ‘most delightful happiness’.

He basically passed on his mummy boy obligation to the Australian taxpayer.

Onto his second wife now, money in the bank as the new wife’s family all pay him a cut as a citizen sponsor.

Gurjas is living the dream."
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2% of Australia is Indian! That is nuts!

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Also this sounds horrific

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2% of Australia is Indian! That is nuts!

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Also this sounds horrific

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Australia has 1.x or more million Chi Sneeze in a population of 25 million increasing by the day. We only have 3 million in our entire 350 million.

What ever made them so crazy to let so much of a fifth column into their country? Must be love of money because they are dumb looking at the replies on this forum from them.
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The Macrobusiness site is like unlocking a key to the Australian reality. Thank you for these links.

For example, this is a quote from a recent article on this Macrobusiness site.

. Let’s see this graph (1 & 2) by Sydney / Melbourne & capital cities v rest of Australia. Dwelling capital price growth by dwelling value.
Then by Investor v owner occupier.
And then by owner country of origin and declared v the real occupancy & rent paid.
Let’s see a sample ‘Housing audit’ or sample cross check of say 1,000 dwellings in the CBD or in the vast migrant zones that now spread across Sydney in an 800 sq km swathe from Mascot to the CBD then way out west to Penrith.
There is no shortage of sample data. Staring you in the face if you ever dare go into the migrant zones.
And what would that ‘chart’ show?
That at least 580,000 very modest old established units & little old houses,,, mostly in Sydney & Melbourne,
inner city old rundown small units & then middle & outer suburb small modest houses, the absolute bottom layer….
Where the ‘Investor’ or purchaser will be a new PR or citizen grant migrant proxy..
Who washed in the dirty money for purchase for the foreign syndicates, to evade FIRB,..
And the ‘Occupants’ of that old modest ex Australian Housing?
They will now be PR migrants (1.9 million in the last decade, the majority being third world unskilled & poor with over 61% or 1.1 million ‘renting’)
Had then more than double that number again (2.561 million non resident migrant guestworkers 92% rent) so that will be another 2.3 million who also ‘rent’.
A total of 3.3 million third world poor migrant ‘renters’ with 90% or 3 million in just Sydney & Melbourne.
The ‘Housing Audit’ or 1,000 dwelling sample check will show an average occupancy of that now foreign owned housing as 2, 3 or even 4 times the Australian average (2.9 per dwelling ABS).
It will be 2 or 3 migrant families, or 6, 8, 10 migrant guestworkers – paying cash in hand sub let bunk share.
But only a nominal or minimal rent declared. And a Negative gearing kicker back to the proxy. Your taxes at work.
It’s all about washing the dirty money into established housing, a safe haven – and CASH FLOW, not capital gain.
A 10-15% untaxed cash yield v the usual 3-4% return.
➡️ This is all totally missed by Core Logic & others, as they use market advertised rents or declared returns – not the real market in migrant housing which is never advertised as the aggregate beds per little 2 bed unit and the real return, mostly cash is NEVER declared.
Core Logic miss a quarter of the cash flow in the Sydney & Melbourne rental market.
The underlying nutrient of all of this?
Sydney 1.3 million TR migrant guestworkers renting.
1 in 4 people. 25% of the population as non residents occupying only 7% of the housing. Plus another 500,000 PR renters.
Melbourne 1.050 million TR migrant guestworkers renting. 1 n 5 people.
20% of the people as non residents occupying only 6% of the housing. Plus another 400,000 PR renters.
And another 250k TR migrant guestworkers elsewhere, Brisbane, Adelaide, Hobart etc and plus the PR in a similar correlation.
Macrobusiness has published the stats on the PR many times. It’s 1.9 million in the last decade plus offspring here.
March 2018: 2.431 million non resident migrant guestworkers.
Fact check:
 [link to www.vsure.com.au (secure)] year to year growth. (DHA quarterly reports so plus 130,000 new non resident migrant guestworkers in the last year).
March 2019: now 2.561 million non resident migrant guestworkers.
2.561 million migrant guestworkers.
14 years worth of PR in addition.
The vast majority of these non resident TR are permanent stay (NZ SCV with 38% or 260k of the 669k SCV as non NZ third world born – our fastest growing third world visa category) – or very long stay (670k foreign students & partners 4-9 years until they get the PR), or say 190k bridging / protection (up to 5 years), 155k so called skilled & partners / dependents (3-4 years until a PR), 150k backpacker, 1-2 year stay but only 15% outside a city & only for visa extension, 300k long stay repeat stay visitors, 130k special & other categories & so on..
All needing housing.
Mostly adult. Mostly Third world.
Mostly poor. Many working & living illegally, week to week to week – repaying that foreign agent procurer debt & sending back the remittances.
And so where do these 3.6 million (2.5 million non resident migrant guestsworkers & the 1.1 million poor unskilled lower socio- economic PR migrants) all ‘live’?
And how / and who do they pay rent to?
They are paying $170-180 a week average – for the migrant guestworkers ‘bunk share, bag of rice , toilet roll & wifi deal’.
Widely advertised on the foreign social media, websites, posters & tear off ads in foreign languages all over the street.
As example:
🔹The 2 bed small unit in Regis Tower CBD, bought with the dirty money washed at say $750k.
🔻 9 Thai & Malay hospitality workers / foreign students in bunks or the lounge at $180 a week each, $84k year, 11% yield. only $30k or 3% Yield declared (legal occupancy/minimal rent). 282 units with 1,700 in the tower block.
🔹The 2 bed small old run down unit Burwood bought via the foreign dirty money washed in by the PR at say $550k.
🔻2 or 3 Chinese families or 8 foreign students @$180 week = $75k year.
14% yield, $50k cash, but only $25k or 4% declared. Plus NG as kicker for the PR proxy. The whole area a recreation of a Guangzhou slum.
🔹The small 2 bed plus sunroom house north Parramatta recreation of Mumbai on grimy busy road as the trucks thunder past – bought by the Indian proxy with the dirty foreign syndicate money at $650k.
🔻3 families or 10 Indian students / sponsored visa etc $170 week each = $90k year. 14% yield. But only $21k (3.5%) $400 week rent or declared.
-/-
3.6 million PR or Non resident TR migrants who rent @ say $170 a week x 52 weeks in shared private accommodation = $32 billion.
At 6 per dwelling = 600,000 dwelling.
But only $14 billion (legal occupancy or nominal minimum rent) declared.
14% of the Australia onshore population.
Living in 6% of Australian residential housing (8.8 million private dwellings).
It’s all on display. Easily checked.
▪️There’s your ‘housing bubble’.
▪️There’s your congestion & squalor.
▪️The overloaded public transport & gridlock.
▪️There’s the job & wages loss. 1.3 million Australians unemployed, 1.1 million Australians seeking work, wages fallen by 6.8% in real terms.
▪️There’s the Australian GDP per Capita thru the floor. Fixed trade income diluted by 10% more unskilled fake ID cash in hand unskilled non productive & non tax paying migrant guestworkers.
▪️There’s your mass Australian homelessness.
116,000 Australian permanent homeless, 360,000 who don’t have affordable housing. Squeezed out or evicted by the new foreign owner proxy from their low cost Australian housing to make way for the migrant guestworkers sub let cash in hand goldmine,
And there’s your debt bubble.
The average Australian sucked into a migrant induced bubble – Australia one of the few OECD safe havens (no repatriation & or criminal proceeds treaty), virtually no checks on PR proxies in laundering foreign dirty money into modest Australia housing, plus a NG kicker and 3.6 million migrants needing housing.. so the housing priced up at 2 or 3 times what was a ‘Normal’ Australian occupancy value & cash yield.
House prices fall?
They buy more. It’s a dirty money laundering safe have a& cash flow back to the foreign syndicate model.
Rents fall? Great. Drop the nominal rent declared and take evenmiex as untaxed cash & more on the negative gearing claim.
Let’s see the Housing Audit or 1,000 dwelling ‘sample check’.
Start with CBD city south, west & migrant zones.
How many dwellings were acquired by foreign born citizen & PR?
By location, housing grade and the real occupancy and identities of the migrant guestworkers in that ex Australian housing.
And then the real rent paid v what is being declared.
And how many billions have these PR proxy owners also ripped off in negative gearing claims.
Let’s see that chart.
 



Buckfast Abbey

March 13, 2019 at 1:55 am

In Ireland after the crash, the govn were FORCED to make house sale prices transparent…this needs to happen in Australia now… Before the Major crash…not, as happened in Ireland , after the prices had dropped 50%..People need to know the sale prices, not the asking prices, with no lag.. On a side note, spoke to a real estate agent in Coolum Beach today and he said it’s the first weekend he had no listings on a weekend for 15 years…may mean nothing but I thought it was strange..



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"Yep, it’s real…it seems that as long as sheeple can buy Utes, go on hols, flip house, and build dog boxes, farm people, etc, then we think everything is rosy…but the ass is talking out if the place, and it’s getting worse…

I told my eleven year old yesterday to consider can STEM career and leave the country; he agrees. The day before I agreed with a 18 year old STEmer that he should do the same. This is real, and we are stubbornly running at cliffs…

Looks third world to me
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This website really is like unlocking a key to the reality of life in barbie with shrimps land

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February 4, 2019 at 11:37 am
I wish people would stop calling it the “Big Australia” policy, it’s not.. It’s a Big India/China policy. We’re becoming nothing more than a satellite country for the two most overpopulated countries on Earth. They’re bursting at the seams and spilling out into any country willing to accept them. This is NOT Australia anymore
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The sudden lack of retorts of the insulting kind from the anti Japanese posters that were posted before in this thread? Were they banned or did they decide that they could no longer insult facts?
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Little cunt.

Australia doesn't need nor want you....so how do you get in on the conversation then?
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Third world manners box ticked. How about the rest?

Get in the conversation? I started the conversation.
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clappa
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Little cunt.

Australia doesn't need nor want you....so how do you get in on the conversation then?
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Third world manners box ticked. How about the rest?

Get in the conversation? I started the conversation.
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clappa
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Are you clapping the third worlder or the other guy?
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Voted most livable city 6-8 years in a row.

Where did Fuk Us hima score ?

Just curious

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Sung to: Yellow Submarine

In the town where I was born
Lived a man who was a thief

And he told me of his life
Stealing bread and shagging sheep

So they put him in the nick
To a magistrate he went to see

He said "Put him on a ship
to the Convict Colony"

You all live in the Convict Colony
The Convict Colony
The Convict Colony

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japan is a third world country
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That is putting it politely.
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Sung to: Yellow Submarine

In the town where I was born
Lived a man who was a thief

And he told me of his life
Stealing bread and shagging sheep

So they put him in the nick
To a magistrate he went to see

He said "Put him on a ship
to the Convict Colony"

You all live in the Convict Colony
The Convict Colony
The Convict Colony

blair
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1rof1
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Did you hear the one about the Ocker expat who went to his Kiwi neighbor's door with a steaming pile of dog shit in his hand and said "Look what I almost stepped in."?
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Opal Tower saga is very intwresting Im glad you speak about your high "quality"

[link to theconversation.com (secure)]

"Eventually one of these cage tower high rises is going to go up like a Roman candle with a massive loss of life.

And like Grenfells it will be found the building had 2 or 3 times the legal occupancy / packed full of migrant guestworkers illegally subletting.

World Tower 1,900 pass keys occupiers for 220 units.
8.8 persons per unit average. (3 times building design & safety levels)
Class action against Meriton who admitted their business model & strata fees were based on the invariably Asian foreign owned landlord running 8-10 migrant guestworkers per unit in sub let cash in hand bunk share.
The whole place a nest of migrant TR guestworkers renters in bunk share – working illegally, vice, 5 brothels & 11 escort agencies.
All foreign students & skilled visas or Non NZ born SCV. Chinese, North & South Asian, Indian, Nepalese, Bangladeshi, Middle Eastern.
Fire on level 15? about 3 years ago.
The biggest tallest Sydney fire engine articulated appliance couldn’t even get anywhere near the fire due to the building design.
It’s a 65 storey building.

Regis in Pitt Street – 2,300 Asian migrant guestworkers, for 282 units. Infested by south East Asian Chinese & Indian migrant guestworker TR in bunk share.
Drugs, prostitution, fire petrol attacks by migrants on other migrants, all on the public record.
Same at the Summit, Luminere opposite SCC town hall (Chinese & Korean vice HQ), Green Square, Quay apartments all the same.
Most of Mascot Square & Zetland or Rhodes.
Parramatta the new Mumba. Hundreds of thousands of low life migrant TR on pretext visas crammed into 4 – 6 bunks per room, sleeping inside wardrobes, on the floor.
The unit illegally partitioned with flammable plywood or sometimes just curtains.
Little cooking areas and the ubiquitous gas camping stoves – they will have 2 or 3 seperate gas camping stoves plus rice cookers often in the bedrooms, as 8-10 ‘foreign students’ or 3 families occupy the unit in third world filth & squalor.

Each person paying some $170-$230 a week for the standard bunk, wifi, toilet paper & bag of rice deal.

Their unit bought by foreign dirty money via a PR proxy and run as a sublet cash in hand goldmine pulling in $1,600-$2,000 a week rent.
Only $500 declared & the rest to the foreign criminal syndicate plus the proxy claims NG.

No checks on occupancy usage or fire safety.
Building managers in on the corruption.
Who is taking the bribes at the SCC & NSW fire authority to do nothing about the overcrowding & Fire risk?

#### Opal Tower ###

Was it Asian overcrowding cracked the Opal Tower?
Let’s see how many Asians were really packed into that building.

Report excerpt: “There is compelling evidence the wrong size reinforcing bars were placed in this area during manufacture of this panel — 20mm diameter bars were used instead of 28mm diameter bars,” the report found.

“It is likely that a combination of some of the above design and construction issues led to the observed structural damage on level 10.”

The engineers concluded that a “progressive build-up of load on the structure as [the] apartments became occupied” culminated in the cracking“.

Too many Asian migrant guestworkers in bunk share & subletting ?"
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Wow......who would have thought !
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Voted most livable city 6-8 years in a row.

Where did Fuk Us hima score ?

Just curious

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Why are you Aussies so hateful toward Japan in a thread about Australia?
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japan is a third world country
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That is putting it politely.
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Seriously what are you on about? This thread is about Australia not Japan. Japan is far more advanced than Australia - everyone knows this.
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Let’s face it, Australia’s ‘skilled’ migration program has always been a sham and has had “big Australia” element all the time – designed to increase Australia’s population for its economy and defense. So what we see today is a logical consequence of the policy that has been in place. It is logically impossible to draw a line in the sand and say, “we feel today is a good day to stop the past practices and change course”. If the primary purpose of Australia’s ‘skilled’ migration program were to import locally-lacking skills Australia would have sent its brightest minds overseas to learn said skills.
As I stated yesterday, there is nothing ethical about “genuine” skilled migration which is nothing other than harvesting skills that somebody else has already grown ( [link to www.macrobusiness.com.au (secure)]
The “giant fraud” practice should be viewed in the broader context of the financial engineering drivel that has been shaping Straya over the last 25 years or so ( [link to www.macrobusiness.com.au (secure)] You know, that we don’t need manufacturing capabilities because we can just buy them, that we don’t need research for new discovery and products because we can just buy them, that we don’t need education for skilled workforce because we can just buy them…. we only need capabilities to manufacture “money” that can “buy” all of these….
Locally raising skilled workforce is an endeavour that requires broad intellectual infrastructure – without it the Moron Side of the Force will flourish – and Straya has been an antithesis of such endeavour. If you combine the program that has always been a sham and the financial engineering drivel, well, you don’t have to be an Einstein to know what you will end up with.


First up – Morrison & the LNP, or Labor will do nothing.
The only answer is that the control of visa intake numbers & policy settings need to be stripped from the government of the day authority & placed in the hands of a people’s representative body.
By Royal Commission if necessary.
Then the Australian TR / SCV migrant crisis stops being a bait & switch & do nothing politicized football.
The DHA / ABF / immigration ongoing role?
Visa intake & control as directed by this people’s representative body, not the minister.
Why?
Every Australian visa category – TR, Visitor, Tourist is massively rorted.
The border controls and visa system are broken.
As per the article: The skilled migrant guestworkers aren’t skilled. Over half are unskilled dependents, and less than 6,000 earn a higher than average income with a ‘genuinely unique’ key skill not available in the 1.5 million Australians unemployed.
(Yep – we have 1.5 million Australians unemployed & 1.2 million Australians seeking work : Roy Morgan April 2019 – including record levels of unemployed in remote & rural areas).
=> So why does this visa category even exist?
A people’s representative authority would cancel all the visas on this ‘skilled visa’ category overnight.
The others..
🔹The 712,000 foreign students & ‘partners’ aren’t here for the education. They are not an ‘export’
Their money is earned here working illegally & after paying for the visa education fee alibi, the rest is sent offshore for foreign criminal procurer debt repayments & family remittances.
🔻A people’s representative authority would determine there is less than 33,000 genuine foreign students in Australia [ Only post graduate education not available in their home country, maximum 2 year stay, no extension, all fees to be paid full in advance, $66,000 bond as 2 years cost of living, vice removed as a legal source of income & each foreign student report to the police each month on all activities, no partners, no work rights and they must exit on completion]
Just like most other countries. It would only be 33,000 or less that would meet the criteria of other countries.
🔹The 696,000 NZ SCV aren’t (nZ born) SCV anymore.
37% or 260,000 are now non NZ born (NZ Stats) using the NZ SCV loophole to enter Australia permanently.
Another 290,000 third world unskilled useless stacked up in NZ waiting for the passport stamp to enter Australia.
🔻A people’s representative authority would determine the SCV is only for an Australian or New Zealand born adult. All others to return back to New Zealand or their country of origin.
🔹The 225,000 Protection visas are not genuine, 90%+ rejection rate but only after a 5 year stay with full work rights in rorting the Appeals process.
🔻A people’s representative authority would issue an edict that all work rights are to be removed and a decision made within 3 weeks of the protection claim.
🔹The 150,000 working holiday aren’t genuine, Euro trash & Asia / Indian & Middle Eastern trafficking, 90% concentration in Sydney & Melbourne and ayatemi farmer / labour rings bribes & corruption in false declarations for an extended stay.
🔻A people’s representative authority would determine that this entire visa class should be canceled and replaced with a 12 month working holiday, non extendable and requires the applicant to have a full police check, proof of funds for a 1 year stay, be in remote & rural area for 9 months of that stay, with monthly police station reporting and validation.
🔹The Asian & Indian / other tourists & visitors aren’t tourist or visitors. 440,000 working illegally in labouring, construction, agriculture & vice.
🔻A people’s representative authority would determine no multiple or repeat stay visits from third world Asian Indian & Middle East or African nations. Funds again to be checked on arrival & monthly along with a police station check & interview each month on activities.
When you add it all up, its our #1 national crisis.
We have 2.561 million TR – and 2.3 million or 90% of those are concentrated in our 2 main cities in vast ghettos of foreign non citizen third world migrant guestworker slums.
Sydney pop 5.2 million
1.3 million TR third world unskilled migrant guestworkers.
🔹1 in 4 people.
Melbourne pop 5 million.
1.01 million TR third world unskilled migrant guestworkers.
🔹1 in 5 people.
➡️ We have more unskilled third world migrant guestworkers than Gaddafi at his peak.
Not ‘exploited’. Not ‘victims’
Everyone is willing participant in the visa fraud.
En masse lowering our GDP per 6.8%
Destroying wages & youth/mature age employment.
Destroying our housing (half a million ex Australian modest established dwellings now foreign owned to run as cash in hand migrant only slum share)
Education destroyed / prostituted itself as a visa alibi.
Congestion & environmental impact.
The epi-centre of foreign run vice & crime.
Third world unskilled & poor recruited by foreign criminal syndicates from the slums & rural areas, the foreign agent ‘fake health check’ , the fake identities & documents, the bribes paid.
The illegal work or vice purpose organised long before they leave.
The absolute detritus of Asia, India, Nepal, Bangladesh, the Middle East pouring in, indebted to their foreign criminal trafficking agents & loan sharks.
Only in Australia to participate in the foreign criminal run blackmarket & vice underground economy.
To repay that agent & loan shark debt, to send back remittances, to try & secure a PR and get the ‘cash back’ as a sponsor themselves in chain migration.
Candidacy for a PR? You have to be joking.
By the very nature of what comes in, a carefully selected criminally organised swill of the most ammoral & useless, only here to fraud the visa system, to lie, cheat, steal, to work & live illegally.
And if they do secure that PR for themselves, then the chain migration of the others as an additional health care & welfare burden.
Our border control, visa intake / the policy & COE settings are corrupted & broken.
As outlined – the border control & visa settings & policy needs to be taken away from any political party and government control – and institutionalised in an Australian people’s representative body.
By a Royal Commission or whatever it takes.
Neither political party can be trusted. And so this is the only way Australians can reclaim control.

What happened to you Down Under Roos? It is like you became NZ or something.
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japan is a third world country
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That is putting it politely.
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Living under a bridge in Japan allows for more opportunity than being a big shot in Beijbaykland, your biggest "city".
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Macrobusiness never failes to deliver lol

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China won’t stop their Hukou* outflow into Australia.

They still have 90,000,000 – yes 90 million Chinese Hukou* internal illegals to either move to the ‘ghost cities’ or increasingly send overseas as migrant guestworkers. In their 2020 five year plan.

*Chinese Hukou – 2nd & 3rd generation peasants that moved to the tier 1 cities in china’s industrialisation. Lowlife peasants, petty criminals, failed social credit score, vice Workers, broken down old & sick, socially undesirable. Denied a tier 1 city pass, limits in health care, education, not able to register to live permanently in the Chinese tier 1 cities.

[link to www.cultivateleadership.org (secure)]

“Roughly one-fifth of China’s population, some 250 to 300 million people, have irregular hukou status. The reform of the hukou system is a major plank of the Five Year Plan from 2016 to 2020. Under the reforms, 100 million internal migrant illegals are to have their hukou status ‘regularized’ by 2020. The first-tier cities opted to regularize their populations by expelling hukou applicants. Second-tier cities like Chengdu grant hukou status only if they have a masters degree. Third-tier cities will take them if they buy local real estate. But the Hukuo are poor & uneducated with no access to higher education”.

The Chinese communist government in conjunction with the Chinese criminal syndicates have collaborated over the last decade to export & traffic this Chinese social welfare & economic burden overseas.

Over 9 million Hukou poor, lowlife, criminals and failed social credit score have been exported so far as ‘China 🇨🇳 First’ colonisation of foreign countries in exploiting the borders and visa systems of foreign countries.

The West, South Asia, Africa etc.

To enter Australia as ‘Foreign students & partners, business & sponsored visas, or increasingly as ‘visitors in long stay & repeat stay.

Australia now has 1.38 million mainland born communists Chinese onshore.

The vast majority – especially the last decade have been this peasant and criminal Hukuo underclass.

🇨🇳235,000 mainland born Communist Chinese – mostly the earlier wave of export and colonisation, from China or via other countries.

🇨🇳426,000 PR on Chinese passports – mainland born communist.

🇨🇳367,000 TR mainland born Chinese communists on pretext foreign student, partner, skilled & other visas.

🇨🇳135,000 mainland born Chinese communists on the NZ SCV loophole

🇨🇳220,000 mainland born Chinese communists on long stay & repeat stay visitor visas – many working illegally.

Total 1.38 million 🇨🇳Chinese communist hukou🇨🇳

1.25 million or a 90% concentration or Sydney & Melbourne.

🔹Sydney 750,000 Chinese mainland born communists in vast Chinese only ghettos.

🔹Melbourne 575,000 Chinese mainland born communists in vast Chinese only ghettos.

And the other Chinese mainland born communists in similar ghettos in the other capital cities.

China has 3 major rebellions underway, a debt laden crashing economy, trouble in Hong Kong (on a simple criminal repatriation treaty showing just how corrupt and criminal these ex colonies are in resisting Chinese control).

A criminal repatriation treaty that Australia and China should sign as well as a ‘sharing proceeds of crime’ in xfer back to China of the $80 billion or more looted out and used by the Chinese criminal syndicates…
In money laundering into established Australia property as cash in hand migrant only bunk share, in vice, drug and people trafficking.

Net.
Expect even more Chinese Hukuo.
Less with dirty money as China puts money controls in place.

There are still over 90 million Chinese Hukuo to be dumped somewhere.

To flee China and the forced resettlement to the ghost cities – and to come & live and work in Australia illegally.

$2k in China now buys an Australian PR.
And the Chinese government bends all the rules and a blind eye to the people traffickers to assist in export of the Hukuo underclass.

➡️ The Chinese government and their criminal syndicates will still target Australia as an easy place to dump their criminals, aged, sick & social burden.

That will be the trend.

Nothing will change until Australia starts to enforce border & visa controls to prevent Australia from being swamped by this Chinese underclass being dumped here.
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Yes it's a third world country...so FK off where fullbanana2

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