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Derby Jockey Suspended

 
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The racing stewards and commissioners have completely screwed this issue.


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"The Kentucky Horse Racing Commission has suspended Maximum Security jockey Luis Saez for 15 racing days after determining he interfered with other riders in the controversial 2019 Kentucky Derby.

Days after race stewards met with the jockeys involved in the inquiry that led to Maximum Security’s disqualification, the commission announced Monday that Saez is suspended for 15 racing days.

The KHRC cited "failure to controI his mount and make the proper effort to maintain a straight course thereby causing interference with several rivals that resuIted in the disqualification of his mount," in its ruling against Saez."
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the horse needs to go to the glue factory, or to the Mexican horse meat slaughterhouse ...

it got spooked and drifted out of its lane ...

the horse needs to pay for what it did wrong

it cost its owner and betters a LOT of money ...

and money is what horse racing is all about
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the horse needs to go to the glue factory, or to the Mexican horse meat slaughterhouse ...

it got spooked and drifted out of its lane ...

the horse needs to pay for what it did wrong

it cost its owner and betters a LOT of money ...

and money is what horse racing is all about
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77225709


forgot to add, cost me money too ... but made the owners of the undeserving "winner" a lot of money ...

put the horse DOWN
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Interesting video here:

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It's the horses fault?

That's a good one.
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Unbelievable

What a load of crap

Never watching horse racing again
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Interesting video here:

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 Quoting: Redcat1


That was good video documentation. War of Will was the trouble maker.
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Interesting video here:

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 Quoting: Redcat1


Great video.
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Who had a million dollars on 65:1 County House??
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Yea but he starts his first NASCAR race this week.

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Horse racing...about as exciting as watching paint dry...or even worse...soccer.
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Such bullshit. This happens all the time and never gets enforced. Just like high sticking in hockey. Only called when a ref wants to bust balls or it is too egregious i.e. hockey stick cuts someone.
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Live in Louisville. It blew everyone here away. I heard one horse owner on local radio afterwards. He said the problem is that they only have ten horse gates, and they have to push them together, leaving a big gap in the middle. When the horses take off, they are all basically headed towards each other and with a 20 horse field, that initial collision can cause chaos and the horses can never settle into a tight lane. He suggested a 20 hourse gate, where they all take off in a lane from the get go and don't veer, would solve the issue. But Churchill DOwns is too cheap to make it.

Interesting perspective at least.
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Interesting video here:

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 Quoting: Redcat1


Somebody made a BUNDLE robbing that
horse of his LEGITIMATE VICTORY.

Some human beings should be investigated
and put behind bars over this.

What else has become corrupted in America?
Is ANYTHING LEFT unmolested?
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the horse needs to go to the glue factory, or to the Mexican horse meat slaughterhouse ...

it got spooked and drifted out of its lane ...

the horse needs to pay for what it did wrong

it cost its owner and betters a LOT of money ...

and money is what horse racing is all about
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77225709


Maximum Security is still running other races other than Preakness and earning money from Stud service. Kentucky Derby isnt the only race
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The racing stewards and commissioners have completely screwed this issue.


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"The Kentucky Horse Racing Commission has suspended Maximum Security jockey Luis Saez for 15 racing days after determining he interfered with other riders in the controversial 2019 Kentucky Derby.

Days after race stewards met with the jockeys involved in the inquiry that led to Maximum Security’s disqualification, the commission announced Monday that Saez is suspended for 15 racing days.

The KHRC cited "failure to controI his mount and make the proper effort to maintain a straight course thereby causing interference with several rivals that resuIted in the disqualification of his mount," in its ruling against Saez."
 Quoting: MarPep


Listen, if they got the original ruling wrong, this is their way of backing up their ruling right or wrong.
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Horse racing...about as exciting as watching paint dry...or even worse...soccer.
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I'm a Kentuckian and I agree.

Bunch of nonsense. I'd rather watch rats fuck than the derby.

But all racing is retarded. Watching shit go in circles is mudane and pointless.
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Horse racing...about as exciting as watching paint dry...or even worse...soccer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77449933


I'm a Kentuckian and I agree.

Bunch of nonsense. I'd rather watch rats fuck than the derby.

But all racing is retarded. Watching shit go in circles is mudane and pointless.
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chuckle
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Horse racing...about as exciting as watching paint dry...or even worse...soccer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77449933


I'm a Kentuckian and I agree.

Bunch of nonsense. I'd rather watch rats fuck than the derby.

But all racing is retarded. Watching shit go in circles is mudane and pointless.
 Quoting: Dr. Acula




chuckle
 Quoting: A1Janitor


aculaeyes

It was a figure of speech!

Haha
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the horse needs to go to the glue factory, or to the Mexican horse meat slaughterhouse ...

it got spooked and drifted out of its lane ...

the horse needs to pay for what it did wrong

it cost its owner and betters a LOT of money ...

and money is what horse racing is all about
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77225709




Japan LOVES horse
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In Japan horse meat is eaten in the form of sashimi, in thin slices dipped in soy sauce. In countries like Kazakhstan and Switzerland it’s served as steak and sausage.
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the horse needs to go to the glue factory, or to the Mexican horse meat slaughterhouse ...

it got spooked and drifted out of its lane ...

the horse needs to pay for what it did wrong

it cost its owner and betters a LOT of money ...

and money is what horse racing is all about
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77225709


forgot to add, cost me money too ... but made the owners of the undeserving "winner" a lot of money ...

put the horse DOWN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77225709


Maybe you should take your cryin' ass over to a pitbull thread.

yousuck
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Thread: Jockey who finished second in Kentucky Derby is found dead at racetrack
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the horse needs to go to the glue factory, or to the Mexican horse meat slaughterhouse ...

it got spooked and drifted out of its lane ...

the horse needs to pay for what it did wrong

it cost its owner and betters a LOT of money ...

and money is what horse racing is all about
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77225709


Just send you to the glue factory.
problem soved
Trudeau must geau!

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Interesting video here:

[link to www.courier-journal.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Redcat1


Somebody made a BUNDLE robbing that
horse of his LEGITIMATE VICTORY.

Some human beings should be investigated
and put behind bars over this.

What else has become corrupted in America?
Is ANYTHING LEFT unmolested?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77643666


If there is you can be sure they will find it and destroy it!
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Interesting video here:

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 Quoting: Redcat1


Maximum Security wuz ROBBED.
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Interesting video here:

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 Quoting: Redcat1


That was good video documentation. War of Will was the trouble maker.
 Quoting: WhatsItAllAbout Alfie


I was saying this ever since the day of the race. It's hard NOT to notice Tyler Gaffalione's bizarre ride on War of Will. Watching the race in real time I was wonder WTF is he doing? He was all up on Maximum Security's ass at least twice.
He bulled his way into a hole that didn't exist and basically took over Long Range Toddy's running path by force.

When you sit behind the leader on the rail most of the race like Gaffalione did with War of Will you wait for the rail to open at the top of the stretch or swing wide and go around the leader. Often time the rail doesn't open up and there is no room to swing wide because other horses have taken that path. That's just racing luck.

Gaffalione made his move early and when there was no room. He knew he screwed up. That is why he did not lodge a claim of foul. He SHOULD have been the one to lodge a claim of foul if he felt he was interfered with. He didn't, because he knew hefucked up.

The stewards could not have looked at this for 20 minutes and not seen how bizarre War of Will's ride was.

I am starting to believe that the stewards used this incident as an opportunity to penalize a trainer they are suspicious of (Jason Servis - many accuse him of being a 'juicer') and to reward a trainer that is very well respected in racing (Bill Mott - the guy who trained Cigar).

I was 50/50 on the DQ. I didn't like the decision because it is the Derby and there has never been a DQ for what happens in the race in 145 years. Some replays look bad for Maximum Security and there was some danger involved so I justified the DQ on that reasoning even though I didn't agree with it.

This video just pisses me off. Maximum Security got screwed. Country House was declared the winner but may have been the 4th best horse that day. Country House then got a lung infection and is out of the Preakness and Belmont races, so no shot for a Triple Crown winner this year.

Nobody is excited for the Preakness. People are still pissed about the DQ. If you go by the letter of the rule you would have to DQ War of Will and Country House for their bumping and I bet you could find another 3 or 4 to DQ as well. Would anybody want to bet on a race where the official order of finish after DQs doesn't even resemble the actual order of finish? It would be like playing the lottery. Random numbers. No skill or analysis required.

This DQ was awful for the sport and I am sick of hearing the paid talking heads all nodding in agreement about the 'right decision' being made when it is highly questionable whether the right decision was made or not.
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Unbelievable

What a load of crap

Never watching horse racing again
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Every race I've ever watched the horses crossed each other trying to get to the inside lane. I think they call it jostling for position. I would never ride that way. Even if I got the outside starting position. I would cross so that I wouldn't get a speck of mud on me and if that meant riding four abreast, so be it.
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Who had a million dollars on 65:1 County House??
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Nobody because if they had a million dollars on him to win he wouldn't be 65-1. That is how pari-mutuel wagering works.
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the horse needs to go to the glue factory, or to the Mexican horse meat slaughterhouse ...

it got spooked and drifted out of its lane ...

the horse needs to pay for what it did wrong

it cost its owner and betters a LOT of money ...

and money is what horse racing is all about
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77225709


Yep. It’s certainly not about the horse.
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Such bullshit. This happens all the time and never gets enforced. Just like high sticking in hockey. Only called when a ref wants to bust balls or it is too egregious i.e. hockey stick cuts someone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74775434


Not really. Horses DO get DQd all the time.

The problem as I see it is that in the NFL if they review a call the public usually watches reviews with commentary by the broadcasters and 95% of the time you know what decision is coming.

There is nothing close to that in racing. Everybody just sort of holds their breath until the stewards make a decision and even though I've been a fan since I was 8 and now work in the industry I don't have a clue what decision is coming. It's a coin flip. There is no consistency and states have different rules. Those rules are interpreted differently by different stewards.

We tend to just accept that fact in racing. When a horse is DQd in a big race like this it just leaves a bad taste in everybody's mouth - especially those who aren't paying attention to racing very often.
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Unbelievable

What a load of crap

Never watching horse racing again
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77644279


Every race I've ever watched the horses crossed each other trying to get to the inside lane. I think they call it jostling for position. I would never ride that way. Even if I got the outside starting position. I would cross so that I wouldn't get a speck of mud on me and if that meant riding four abreast, so be it.
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Racing is racing


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