Derby Jockey Suspended

Two things -

First of Maximum Security got his start running a sixteen claimer. This was not a juiced horse, this was a horse run by the breeder for a low tag, who didn't know what they had until the horse won by crazy lengths.

Second, Bob Baffert is shady as fuck and he's won how many triple crown races in recent years? A few years back something like seven horses dropped dead in his barn. He's up to something funny and lots of people know it...

Servis, I don't know, but you don't juice a horse to run a sixteen claimer. Max was just that good.

There are two schools of thought o running him for a $16K tag.

1) They were sharp and rolled the dice. They knew he would win and were fairly confident he would not be claimed.

2) They were idiots who didn't know what they had and got lucky somebody didn't take the horse from him.

Neither of these situations would prove or disprove the horse being juiced.

Servis is very definitely suspected by some of juicing. Yes, people think Baffert juices as well. Anybody with a very high win % gets these suspicions.

I'm not claiming he was or was not juiced. I am saying many suspect him of it, and damn near everybody in the industry places Bill Mott on a pedestal.


Many fans think stewards would never take down Maximum Security if he were trained by Baffert. The 'other' high profile incident involving a DQ review involves Baffert's Bayern who won the Breeders Cup Classic in 2014. Plenty of people think he should have been DQd but wasn't because Baffert.

I'm glad Bayern wasn't DQd because I hit the superfecta in that race and was holding my breath thru the review.

Jockey is supposed to control the horse. He screwed up.

Who knows...

Before that race the horse breezed sloooowww

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You think you have a super good horse and want an easy win, you're still better off starting at a $25 tag unless it's a problem horse that acts up, or just isn't showing anything. The breeder often doesn't care but will usually try to hang on to a potential champ by running higher or flip it in an auction.
No trainer really knows how their horse will run until it races. Particularly whether they are mentally sound for it, or have the heart to win. Heart is the hardest factor to predict in advance.

Either way, that War of the Will jock ran a shitty ride, running into Maximum Security's ass and I thought that watching the race even before all those slow mo videos came out.

It's not over yet.

Hmm...you don't get it.

I never watch, never go to the track, my hobby is predicting superfectas with stats and a spreadsheet, once in awhile I bet from home and once in awhile win the superfectas.

It is a thrill to predict them and never watch.

Very true.

DQs or position shifts by stewards are not uncommon.

I posted the video that shows that War of Will may have been kicking Maximum Security before he broke out of his lane. If fact that video is titled in defense of jockey - who now got 15 days.

But, Maximum Security definitely broke out of this lane by a lot to the outside and then swung back in towards the rail and disrupted the inside horse. It was easy to see in real time and anyone who is fan knew that was potential inquiry action.

the same person/persons who bought the 9-11 "put" options

LOL

I used to do the superfectas.

I would do it based on odds ... throw a lot of horses in. I used to win some.

ou ever been to the weiner nationals?
Now thats racing!

It is fun stuff with .10 superfectas.

Except the Nurburgring, ohhh yea.

Exactly.that’s the real question .

The brother of maximum security jockey died in a accident in a race a couple years ago.

The trainer is known for workouts like that. The workout shows a 4 furlong workout but in reality the horse did a slow and steady mile.

Since the West's didn't lose the horse when he ran for $16K I don't get the criticism. Like you said, you don't really know what you have until the horse runs.

I saw the link to that at the bottom of the page, but it was from 2011.

Let me be the first to ask; who the hell gives a fook? We don’t have more important things to be concerned about. It’s fooking gambling for fooks sake.

Possums, not rats

Luis Saez is not the brother of Michael Baze.

Juan Saez died a couple days ago at Indian Downs. Not sure if he is related to Luis Saez or not. They are both from Panama, as is Gabriel Saez who was the jockey on By My Standards.

Weaner pig races are fun to watch too. They all know that there's a trough full of treats at the finish line, so they all DO run as fast as they can to get there first!

*Indiana Grand.


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No they really want to blame Trump.

Yes, on 9-10

Canterbury Park does an incredible job making a family friendly day at the races. Absolutely love that place.

Very interesting video.

he's just a baby!

No one. Via twin spires largest bet on CH was $2500.

You could be like others and figure the 65-1 was worth dropping a little on since you’re already betting. I did. Yay Country House & stewards!