Alien Spaceship on the Moon impressive new video

haha

nice find.

[link to www.youtube.com]

i think this guy has got it right, but its a shame.

how about a penalty for hoaxes?

perhaps removal of hands?

<<<the Saturn 1b, which is not capableofa lunar landing>>>

Geez...what you put on top of this saturn is doing the landing...the saturn is just the engine...

Carry on...


And the Saturn 1b did not have the lift capacity or delta v to do a lunar landing.

Guess you have not studied the implications of the nonsense propagated by idiots and the ignorant.

God you are SMART!Also arrogant with the 'knowledge'you picked up last week...Buffed,too.WOW!Truly knowledgeable folks don't have to belittle anyone.You are a cockwarmer.


Why don't you address any of the basic questions posed? Could it be you do not have an answer, that you are pathologically gullible and utterly incapable of defending you BS?

That seems reasonable, indeed, even probable.

Go back to your fantasy world, you are really not capable of handling anything in the real world.


What is real, what is reality?
I have seen real angels and real living Jesus Christ. Will you believe me?




You are not even the brightest window licker on the short bus, obviously.
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So, do you claim the Saturn 1b did indeed have the lift capacity, and delta v to do a lunar landing mission?

Please be specific and show your math.

And why should I believe anything you say?

You may want to study the booster a bit before you shoot your mouth off and confirm you are a window licker who has no idea what they are talking about. [link to www.astronautix.com]

Or you can check out this booster flight manual WARNING!!!!!! 20 meg PDF, NOT for kids on dialup!!!

[link to ntrs.nasa.gov]

Lies, all of it.

Got proof? Please show your math.

Didn't think you could rise to the challenge.

Some official NASA
pictures archived by the LPI (The Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston), which is “a research institute that provides support services to NASA and the planetary science community” ( [link to www.lpi.usra.edu] show a strange and big object on the far side of the Moon. LPI is “is managed by the Universities Space Research Association (USRA)”

Apollo 17 shots at:

[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]

A number of Apollo 15 shots of the same object are available here:
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]

There are multiple things in the retiredafb deciding me just now it is not a hoax. The consistencies between the Nasa photos and the mothership videos from retiredafb, the video with the flag (half american half russian) you need build all this control panel because clearly it is not CG. The interview with retiredafb. Soon we will have more and more footage. I can't wait for the Mona Lisa footage and some with astronauts walking on the moon (I really want see a man walking on the moon and not the Apollo movies filmed in studios). Also I intrigued about how they entered the mothership.

lets hope more and more footage comes our way, and i agree the orbiter images are the give away, theres definitly something there, and this is the first thing ive seen that shows what it is.

and if nasa would be so kind as to debunk this, then they could perhaps show a hi res photo of the site, im sure its one of interest and would have been looked into.

I would like to see Richard Hoaghland talking about this videos from retiredafb. I made my mind he is a disinfo nasa agent and I would like to see his position about this spaceship.

The map of the far side of the moon

[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]



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Regards

Must See:
The Leonov Art
[link to www.youtube.com]
Quoted:
"Out of deep respect for a truly great man and human being, I post this video with the hope that others will learn more about him and his soul through his art. These are just a few examples.

From Aleksey's art you can see that going to the Moon was all he ever dreamed about and that both the Soviets and the United States made sure that Aleksey lived his dream, because of the many great contributions of this man to mankind, the two governments owed it to him. The US (and a number of corporations) supplied a rocket ship and two pilots. This is an awesome story that will eventually be made into a movie. Sadly, the most striking thing about all this is that all the US media outlets have censured this story.
-snip-
Instead, they've all seized onto a bogus "dragonfly" story to direct everyone's attention away from the reality of Apollo 20 and from the reality of the US fleet of discs etc.

Aleksey A. Leonov

Cosmonaut
First man to walk in space
Soyuz-Apollo Commander
Apollo 20 Lunar Module Pilot
General
Hero of the Russian Federation (twice)
Artist
Great Human Being "
end quoted

[link to www.youtube.com]
quoted:
"Is it possible that the artist who painted the picture of a Soviet Lunar Module landing on the Moon is one in the same person as the one who created the artwork for the Apollo 20 mission patch?

Interesting how emphasis was placed on these two "landmark" craters.

Just an observation. No way of knowing for sure, unless

General Leonov

or someone close to him says something about it."
end quoted

waiting bump

I was doing composites with the videos:

The ground as seen before the camera reach the "mothership":
[link to img352.imageshack.us]
Photo from Nasa with the ground of above composite in brown
and the mothership in green:
[link to img75.imageshack.us]

Composites of the mothership:
[link to img472.imageshack.us]
[link to img358.imageshack.us]
[link to img454.imageshack.us]

This composites look craters that fit with the Nasa image so if it is faked they recreated the craters exactly as Nasa photo.

But now this composite:
[link to img174.imageshack.us]

I can't relate any crater to the Nasa photo. Also the "mothership" don't seems the same. I see this composite and it looks to me like a clay model or something like that. If this were the first video from retiredafb I would believe it is all fake. But the others composites and the other videos (like the interior with the flag USA/Russian make me don't decide this is a hoax yet.

And this is the first composite already posted, it also looks clay. I can't decide if it matches or not the ship as seen in the three composites above.
[link to img380.imageshack.us]

retiredafb logged 2 weeks ago and deleted the three tests. Then he was two weeks without login in youtube. Today he logged in so he was not assassinated yet... His age is now 77 as you can see in his youtube page with all the videos so his birthday was someday this past week.

I can't decide before more videos are shown. Just now I am not 100% sure it is true because the composite with no matching craters nor matching ship as I said above.

Another thing that appears demonstrate it is a hoax is this frontal image of the ship as seen in the video:
[link to img381.imageshack.us]
(in the video some seconds before this image you see the ship even more front than this image).
Compare with the Nasa image with the brown ground and the green circle with the mothership. The brown shows the path the camera is following and it is not possible to see the mothership like the above photo shows us. This need an answer or it clearly demonstrates it's a fake.

I want to see the next movies to decide.

This video
[link to www.youtube.com]

shows these two images from Nasa with more detail than I was able to find in Nasa sites. I would like to find the URL of these two images with this detail instead of this lower detail ones:
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
and
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]

The detail of the above video shows craters in the "ship" that the retiredafb ships don't have. This video shows it is just a trick of lights and shadows.

So... Come on retiredafb, hurry with the next video! Show us some really convincing that all this is not a hoax!

The video is genuine, check this comparison photo;

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

..and this;

[link to www.angelismarriti.it]

I think I checked absolutely all the material there is about this mothership in the moon. Like I said above the interior with the flag is one strong point deciding the autenticity. But I appointed some strong points in favor of a hoax.

Just now I think we must wait next videos from retiredafb to decide. Perhaps the next one show true astronauts walking on the true moon and we then can compare with the apollo missions fake movies. Perhaps the next video is the interior of the mothership with the female pilot with the wiring... I just want to go to Rwanda and search and steal retiredafb all his videos and post them in emule at high quality X-D

Just now I am not so decided the entire thing is true like I was after reading the interview. The incorrect path that shows the front of the mothership, and the composite you can't match craters with the other Nasa photos and composites are of great weight for me deciding it is not so truth like I was thinking after reading the interview and see the videos before doing the composites.

Well, the City video is a fake also:

[link to img475.imageshack.us]

To the left you have a composite of the city video. To the right you have three Apollo 17 Nasa photos and marked in red the features you can identify in the composite of the "City" video.

Conclusion:
- City composition
- "Clay" videos don't match the features of the terrain
- Mothership first "brown" video matches the features, it seems a genuine footage or a very well done video with a scale model and a detailed build ground (craters and features match)
- The video of the interior with the flag is the only thing unresolved just now

So:
The Commentator was right and Zetas right again (nancy said it was a hoax).

The better fake I ever saw. I would like to know what moved to "retiredafb" to simulate such a thing and build the scale model and all...

looks really fake

Go here: [link to tasfastas.googlepages.com]

and here:
[link to www.keithlaney.net]

Got some problems posting

May i put your images (composition of ths "ship" / evidence of lunar structures hoax) on my web page? [link to tasfastas.googlepages.com]

cheers