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R.I.P. - After Decades Of Study Stanton Friedman's 4 Conclusions About UFO's

 
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Everyone should read "Day After Roswell"

Corso was a heavy hitter in the US government/military ..he was no joke

it would be like McMaster or Gen Flynn telling you aliens are real and all of our modern tech is from them

Excellent book and turned me from a skeptic to a believer
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Richard Dolan.
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I like Dolan and have attended his speeches on break-away civilizations. He's got the credentials and has top notch information.

I do wonder sometimes if he isn't disinformation as well unfortunately.
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That's the problem with UFO, "experts." Everybody else is a disinfo agent if they don't support your theories, crazy, reasonable, or otherwise.

Sometimes people just disagree and have their own ideas. Some are stupid ideas, some are good ideas, some are crazy ideas. Doesn't necessarily mean they're disinfo. But all too often people are accused of that for no real reason.
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bump for a level headed post.
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Extratardestrials. Lol.
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Well..they DO crash.
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Disinfo.
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hesright

Jacques Vallee did not come to those same conclusions at all.
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Yup. Jacques Vallee figured it out, but has to be very careful in how he phrases his conclusions as to not frighten the cattle.
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Could you summarize what he says if you don't mind. Or post a link to it if not? I am curious.
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Just a quick summary, there is so much more to it, and I'm sure I could never do Vallee justice.

The UFO phenomenon has most likely been around since the beginning of humanity and it behaves like a feedback loop that is constantly challenging humanity. The entities have more in common with old folklore tales of elves and fairies than they do with an extraterrestrial intelligence. The entities are deceptive in nature and evolve their tactics/narratives to correspond with human technology and scientific understanding.

For example, in the 40s-60s before space travel really took off, the claims were that they were from Mars and Venus. When space tech took off and our satellites explored those regions in space they changed their stories to being from different star systems. Basically they tell people they're from places we can't see or observe at the present time.

Another example is that in the 1800s, UFOs were often reported as looking like airships. Eventually we made airships and then UFOs changed in appearance to what we see in modern times. It's almost as if there is a weird dance going on between these entities and humanity. Some sort of perverse dialogue of deception.

Vallee, from my understanding ( as I said, he's very cryptic and careful with how he words things ), doesn't believe these entities are extraterrestrial. From my own personal experience, I agree with him.
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My only statement to Stanton upon meeting him at the dolphin conference was..."Course-so, of course-so."

(I didn't mention my selectee status.)

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hesright

Jacques Vallee did not come to those same conclusions at all.
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Yup. Jacques Vallee figured it out, but has to be very careful in how he phrases his conclusions as to not frighten the cattle.
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Could you summarize what he says if you don't mind. Or post a link to it if not? I am curious.
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Just a quick summary, there is so much more to it, and I'm sure I could never do Vallee justice.

The UFO phenomenon has most likely been around since the beginning of humanity and it behaves like a feedback loop that is constantly challenging humanity. The entities have more in common with old folklore tales of elves and fairies than they do with an extraterrestrial intelligence. The entities are deceptive in nature and evolve their tactics/narratives to correspond with human technology and scientific understanding.

For example, in the 40s-60s before space travel really took off, the claims were that they were from Mars and Venus. When space tech took off and our satellites explored those regions in space they changed their stories to being from different star systems. Basically they tell people they're from places we can't see or observe at the present time.

Another example is that in the 1800s, UFOs were often reported as looking like airships. Eventually we made airships and then UFOs changed in appearance to what we see in modern times. It's almost as if there is a weird dance going on between these entities and humanity. Some sort of perverse dialogue of deception.

Vallee, from my understanding ( as I said, he's very cryptic and careful with how he words things ), doesn't believe these entities are extraterrestrial. From my own personal experience, I agree with him.
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Right. Demons...
Ephesians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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He debunked Bob Lazar and prved him a fraud years ago.

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The problem with all of this kinda stuff is that it goes nowhere.
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Which is the actual objective in most cases.
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1) The evidence is overwhelming that Planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. In other words, SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are not.

2) The subject of flying saucers represents a kind of Cosmic Watergate, meaning that some few people in major governments have known since July, 1947, when two crashed saucers and several alien bodies were recovered in New Mexico, that indeed SOME UFOs are ET. As noted in 1950, it’s the most classified U.S. topic.

3) None of the arguments made against conclusions One and Two by a small group of debunkers such as Carl Sagan, my University of Chicago classmate for three years, can stand up to careful scrutiny.

4) The Flying Saucer story is the biggest story of the millennium: visits to Planet Earth by aliens and the U.S. government’s cover-up of the best data (the bodies and wreckage) for over fifty years.

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Can't say I've ever read any of his books, but I was well aware of him and appreciated his style in interviews and lectures.

R.I.P. Stanton Friedman 7/29/1934 - 5/13/2019
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Edward Snowden is a younger whistle blower that speaks about flying saucers inside the planet , they are property of Aliens living inside the Planet in wide open spaces. Flying saucers also have been talked about as a viable transportation within the Inner Solar System and can fly super fast. Most are piloted by droids or other artificial intelligence. They don't like attention and don't typically fly around heavily populated areas.
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Yup. Jacques Vallee figured it out, but has to be very careful in how he phrases his conclusions as to not frighten the cattle.
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Could you summarize what he says if you don't mind. Or post a link to it if not? I am curious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77007811


Just a quick summary, there is so much more to it, and I'm sure I could never do Vallee justice.

The UFO phenomenon has most likely been around since the beginning of humanity and it behaves like a feedback loop that is constantly challenging humanity. The entities have more in common with old folklore tales of elves and fairies than they do with an extraterrestrial intelligence. The entities are deceptive in nature and evolve their tactics/narratives to correspond with human technology and scientific understanding.

For example, in the 40s-60s before space travel really took off, the claims were that they were from Mars and Venus. When space tech took off and our satellites explored those regions in space they changed their stories to being from different star systems. Basically they tell people they're from places we can't see or observe at the present time.

Another example is that in the 1800s, UFOs were often reported as looking like airships. Eventually we made airships and then UFOs changed in appearance to what we see in modern times. It's almost as if there is a weird dance going on between these entities and humanity. Some sort of perverse dialogue of deception.

Vallee, from my understanding ( as I said, he's very cryptic and careful with how he words things ), doesn't believe these entities are extraterrestrial. From my own personal experience, I agree with him.
 Quoting: New Age Scam Artist


Right. Demons...
Ephesians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

[link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]
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The problem with all of this kinda stuff is that it goes nowhere.
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Which is the actual objective in most cases.
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Right again. There is a phenomenon but it's not something we should pay much attention to. It is not in OUR best interest. Problem is...many within the scientific community are doing just that. That in turn gives them influence over us for their benefit, not ours.
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Disinfo.
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Crashed saucers and alien bodies?
yep. Roswell always stunk of bs to me. bsflagpoop
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Disinfo.
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Crashed saucers and alien bodies?
yep. Roswell always stunk of bs to me. bsflagpoop
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Disinfo.
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Crashed saucers and alien bodies?
yep. Roswell always stunk of bs to me. bsflagpoop
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FakeMoon landings need cover.

Hey look.....it’s a ufo!!!
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A good man,Stanton Terry Friedman. Thank you for your good work! RIP
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Aliens are Demons end of story... look up Aliester Crowley's 1918 drawing of the demon Lam he said visited and communicated with him.
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Stanton Friedman, was a great and courageous man, he fought all his life for the truth.

The being said, I think that only a small percentage of people on this planet, care that much about UfO's.

Yes its a novelty, to them nothing more.

They just want to live, get ahead, and accumulate material possessions.

Yes there are a small number of people who get excited and freak out over the subject. But not that many even care.

Yes it can can interesting subject, but not to everyone.

One would have to be a complete idiot to think that in this immense universe that no other intelligent life exists.

Still for most people that's as far as it goes.
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Too many advanced in technology in just the last 150 years to believe otherwise.
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Aliens = Fallen Angels. Truth

I've seen a "UFO" -- 5:30ish PM on my way home from work (mid Summer - was totally sober of course) at 500 feet away or so ... I still don't believe in aliens.
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Stanton Friedman, was a great and courageous man, he fought all his life for the truth.

The being said, I think that only a small percentage of people on this planet, care that much about UfO's.

Yes its a novelty, to them nothing more.

They just want to live, get ahead, and accumulate material possessions.

Yes there are a small number of people who get excited and freak out over the subject. But not that many even care.

Yes it can can interesting subject, but not to everyone.

One would have to be a complete idiot to think that in this immense universe that no other intelligent life exists.

Still for most people that's as far as it goes.
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Even if there were thousands of civilizations scattered across the universe it doesn't follow that the manifestations we see in the sky are flying spaceships from those other planets.
A typical 1950s story of a farmer who walked right up to a landed flying saucer- The door was open so he walked up, looked inside and there were lights blinking, levers and switches, screens and interesting gadgets on a bench seat. All the things a 1954 farmer might expect to see in one. Then the pilot, a small man in a silver suit asked for some water. He brought him water and the pilot (speaking English) thanked him and gave him some little wafer/biscuit looking food that turned out to be like crackers.
This was a serious man that didn't want to talk about it but the goofy media hounded him for the interview.
Anyway, through the ages nothing good has come from anything we learned from these 'aliens'. Look where all the goodies from Col Corso got us.. Automated out of jobs, spied upon, digitized and enslaved to them. Zombies walk the streets, staring into their masters.
They are the source of lies and deceit, crazy stories that make the teller sound like a moran on crack, a crazed idiot. So what good are they?
The ufos are evil. Always have been.
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Stanton Friedman - Doris Day - Tim Conway

The BIG THREE.
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You forgot Peggy Lipton.
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Stanton Friedman - Doris Day - Tim Conway

The BIG THREE.
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You forgot Peggy Lipton.
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On Johnny Carson last night they had a 60 year old Doris Day on. She was absolutely gorgeous, still built like a brick sh**house.
Sweet lady.
RIP Doris
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Pardon me for just a second.. When you gaze up at the star filled sky at night, I hope you remember that every star is a SUN, every sun has planets and satellites orbiting around them, and ,,, we can only see OUR Galaxy, I can't recall how many galaxies there are, but there are alot.


So... anyone saying there is no possibility for other intelligent life forms in the Universes is either stupid or a damn liar.

Take me to your leader..

RIP, Stan, I loved listening to his interviews on C2CAM when Art was there.

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You guys reqlize diwclosure happened with AITP right? Luis Elizondo said they exist..the government had no idea who..what..or why or where..they are clueless as us
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He would not talk to us Aliens that showed up at events to call bs on him
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Amen, Stanton!
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Stanton Friedman, was a great and courageous man, he fought all his life for the truth.

The being said, I think that only a small percentage of people on this planet, care that much about UfO's.

Yes its a novelty, to them nothing more.

They just want to live, get ahead, and accumulate material possessions.

Yes there are a small number of people who get excited and freak out over the subject. But not that many even care.

Yes it can can interesting subject, but not to everyone.

One would have to be a complete idiot to think that in this immense universe that no other intelligent life exists.

Still for most people that's as far as it goes.
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Even if there were thousands of civilizations scattered across the universe it doesn't follow that the manifestations we see in the sky are flying spaceships from those other planets.
A typical 1950s story of a farmer who walked right up to a landed flying saucer- The door was open so he walked up, looked inside and there were lights blinking, levers and switches, screens and interesting gadgets on a bench seat. All the things a 1954 farmer might expect to see in one. Then the pilot, a small man in a silver suit asked for some water. He brought him water and the pilot (speaking English) thanked him and gave him some little wafer/biscuit looking food that turned out to be like crackers.
This was a serious man that didn't want to talk about it but the goofy media hounded him for the interview.
Anyway, through the ages nothing good has come from anything we learned from these 'aliens'. Look where all the goodies from Col Corso got us.. Automated out of jobs, spied upon, digitized and enslaved to them. Zombies walk the streets, staring into their masters.
They are the source of lies and deceit, crazy stories that make the teller sound like a moran on crack, a crazed idiot. So what good are they?
The ufos are evil. Always have been.
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Exactly.
Here's another one.
These aliens are advanced.
So advanced that their MO is to do useless, pointless, weird, very painful "experiments" bordering on torture according to folks who swear up and down that they were abducted.
Or they beamed up a cow in Argentina and shoved a plasma laser up its ass. For some advanced reason.
Now these aliens and the abductees claim these "experiments" are being done so they can understand the human race by taking blood and semen and skin etc, etc. But they want to remain in the shadows and not be known to the general population. Boy, for such advanced beings that sure failed since we are discussing them. I thought they had cloaking devises and such?
Also, If they are so advanced and observing us, how did they not notice that their are hundreds of thousands of blood banks, semen banks, hospitals and other medical facilities with every possible specimen known to man available and they all have operating hours of 9am to 5 pm?
How'd they miss that? Just go hover with your space disk at midnight over these facilities and take all the specimens you could ever want.
But nope, they just can't seem to figure that one out.
You know, cause they are so advanced.
The entire idea of aliens from another planet is the most idiotic, weak minded lie perpetuated on a dumbed down audience ever.
Not to mention that EVERY real investigative professional that has ever really done any real work in this field says so as well.