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Aliens are Demons end of story... look up Aliester Crowley's 1918 drawing of the demon Lam he said visited and communicated with him.
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The closer you get to the real truth....
The crazier you sound.
We are a spec of sand in an endless beach.
But we are the only life building sandcastles...
Who reall has a mind that small???
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I thought we were a drop of water in an endless ocean?

You liars can't even keep your bullshit straight.
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Exactly.
Here's another one.
These aliens are advanced.
So advanced that their MO is to do useless, pointless, weird, very painful "experiments" bordering on torture according to folks who swear up and down that they were abducted.
Or they beamed up a cow in Argentina and shoved a plasma laser up its ass. For some advanced reason.
Now these aliens and the abductees claim these "experiments" are being done so they can understand the human race by taking blood and semen and skin etc, etc. But they want to remain in the shadows and not be known to the general population. Boy, for such advanced beings that sure failed since we are discussing them. I thought they had cloaking devises and such?
Also, If they are so advanced and observing us, how did they not notice that their are hundreds of thousands of blood banks, semen banks, hospitals and other medical facilities with every possible specimen known to man available and they all have operating hours of 9am to 5 pm?
How'd they miss that? Just go hover with your space disk at midnight over these facilities and take all the specimens you could ever want.
But nope, they just can't seem to figure that one out.
You know, cause they are so advanced.
The entire idea of aliens from another planet is the most idiotic, weak minded lie perpetuated on a dumbed down audience ever.
Not to mention that EVERY real investigative professional that has ever really done any real work in this field says so as well.
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Not only that, but they seem to already know how to speak English, and they communicate with people telepathically.

But even though they must have a detailed understanding of human culture and physiology to do the things above, they still need to preform silly, strange tests on people.
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Op is Hogwash
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Eh, what? How's that?
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Stanton Friedman - Doris Day - Tim Conway

The BIG THREE.
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Always in three!
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Disinfo.
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Exactly.
Here's another one.
These aliens are advanced.
So advanced that their MO is to do useless, pointless, weird, very painful "experiments" bordering on torture according to folks who swear up and down that they were abducted.
Or they beamed up a cow in Argentina and shoved a plasma laser up its ass. For some advanced reason.
Now these aliens and the abductees claim these "experiments" are being done so they can understand the human race by taking blood and semen and skin etc, etc. But they want to remain in the shadows and not be known to the general population. Boy, for such advanced beings that sure failed since we are discussing them. I thought they had cloaking devises and such?
Also, If they are so advanced and observing us, how did they not notice that their are hundreds of thousands of blood banks, semen banks, hospitals and other medical facilities with every possible specimen known to man available and they all have operating hours of 9am to 5 pm?
How'd they miss that? Just go hover with your space disk at midnight over these facilities and take all the specimens you could ever want.
But nope, they just can't seem to figure that one out.
You know, cause they are so advanced.
The entire idea of aliens from another planet is the most idiotic, weak minded lie perpetuated on a dumbed down audience ever.
Not to mention that EVERY real investigative professional that has ever really done any real work in this field says so as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77022514


Not only that, but they seem to already know how to speak English, and they communicate with people telepathically.

But even though they must have a detailed understanding of human culture and physiology to do the things above, they still need to preform silly, strange tests on people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77428734


The ‘medical examination’ to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks.”
Dr. Jacques Vallee
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Aliens are Demons end of story... look up Aliester Crowley's 1918 drawing of the demon Lam he said visited and communicated with him.
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so sick of people saying this
jsut because he drew a picture of a "demon" that looked like an alien, doesn't mean that all aliens are demons.
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Disinfo.
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hesright
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You spent time on this. Your contribution to this discussion peaks at a Morgan Freeman meme?

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UFOs have disabled America's nuclear missile launch processes, so why haven't these altruistic beings not vaporised Hillary Clinton?
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You guys reqlize diwclosure happened with AITP right? Luis Elizondo said they exist..the government had no idea who..what..or why or where..they are clueless as us
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Yes. Some of us do.

Hard disclosure, as distinct from the soft disclosure (verbatim Nick Pope) re the cause of the injuries to Burroughs et al finally disclosed by UKgvt a few years back.

They've done this hard disclosure very well. Wrapped it all up in an 'entertainment'+'science' commercial venture whose front man was a rock star. How ambiguous is all that?! An object lesson in how not to scare the masses whilst releasing UFO hard evidence.

The videos/photos and reports from the pilots involved in the tic-tac incident are completely unambiguous = they are here.

Though I disagree that the gvt are as clueless as us. I know they know far more than we do.
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Aliens are Demons end of story... look up Aliester Crowley's 1918 drawing of the demon Lam he said visited and communicated with him.
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so sick of people saying this
jsut because he drew a picture of a "demon" that looked like an alien, doesn't mean that all aliens are demons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73619410


John Keel, a ufologist, and the author of The Mothman Prophecies (the basis of the film by the same name) wrote succinctly,

“The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.”
(John A. Keel, Operation Trojan Horse pg. 299)
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You guys reqlize diwclosure happened with AITP right? Luis Elizondo said they exist..the government had no idea who..what..or why or where..they are clueless as us
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77647598


Yes. Some of us do.

Hard disclosure, as distinct from the soft disclosure (verbatim Nick Pope) re the cause of the injuries to Burroughs et al finally disclosed by UKgvt a few years back.

They've done this hard disclosure very well. Wrapped it all up in an 'entertainment'+'science' commercial venture whose front man was a rock star. How ambiguous is all that?! An object lesson in how not to scare the masses whilst releasing UFO hard evidence.

The videos/photos and reports from the pilots involved in the tic-tac incident are completely unambiguous = they are here.

Though I disagree that the gvt are as clueless as us. I know they know far more than we do.
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“One theory which can no longer be taken very seriously is that UFOs are interstellar spaceships.”

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Exactly.
Here's another one.
These aliens are advanced.
So advanced that their MO is to do useless, pointless, weird, very painful "experiments" bordering on torture according to folks who swear up and down that they were abducted.
Or they beamed up a cow in Argentina and shoved a plasma laser up its ass. For some advanced reason.
Now these aliens and the abductees claim these "experiments" are being done so they can understand the human race by taking blood and semen and skin etc, etc. But they want to remain in the shadows and not be known to the general population. Boy, for such advanced beings that sure failed since we are discussing them. I thought they had cloaking devises and such?
Also, If they are so advanced and observing us, how did they not notice that their are hundreds of thousands of blood banks, semen banks, hospitals and other medical facilities with every possible specimen known to man available and they all have operating hours of 9am to 5 pm?
How'd they miss that? Just go hover with your space disk at midnight over these facilities and take all the specimens you could ever want.
But nope, they just can't seem to figure that one out.
You know, cause they are so advanced.
The entire idea of aliens from another planet is the most idiotic, weak minded lie perpetuated on a dumbed down audience ever.
Not to mention that EVERY real investigative professional that has ever really done any real work in this field says so as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77022514


Not only that, but they seem to already know how to speak English, and they communicate with people telepathically.

But even though they must have a detailed understanding of human culture and physiology to do the things above, they still need to preform silly, strange tests on people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77428734


The ‘medical examination’ to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks.”
Dr. Jacques Vallee
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I agree with Prof Vallee. It might be instructive to understand the predilections of those who promulgate this narrative of 'sadistic sexual manipulation'. No doubt, that'll all eventually come out in the wash.
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Aliens are Demons end of story... look up Aliester Crowley's 1918 drawing of the demon Lam he said visited and communicated with him.
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so sick of people saying this
jsut because he drew a picture of a "demon" that looked like an alien, doesn't mean that all aliens are demons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73619410


John Keel, a ufologist, and the author of The Mothman Prophecies (the basis of the film by the same name) wrote succinctly,

“The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.”
(John A. Keel, Operation Trojan Horse pg. 299)
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That is the only explanation that actually flies, as they say. The 'spaceships' turn and accelerate instantly, skip through time, fly supersonic with no shockwave, visually disappearing and reappearing, can be silent, can be in any shape or form, or no form.
No physical objects can do these things in our objective reality.
Which brings up the only explanation that works.
Demonological phenomenon.
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Exactly.
Here's another one.
These aliens are advanced.
So advanced that their MO is to do useless, pointless, weird, very painful "experiments" bordering on torture according to folks who swear up and down that they were abducted.
Or they beamed up a cow in Argentina and shoved a plasma laser up its ass. For some advanced reason.
Now these aliens and the abductees claim these "experiments" are being done so they can understand the human race by taking blood and semen and skin etc, etc. But they want to remain in the shadows and not be known to the general population. Boy, for such advanced beings that sure failed since we are discussing them. I thought they had cloaking devises and such?
Also, If they are so advanced and observing us, how did they not notice that their are hundreds of thousands of blood banks, semen banks, hospitals and other medical facilities with every possible specimen known to man available and they all have operating hours of 9am to 5 pm?
How'd they miss that? Just go hover with your space disk at midnight over these facilities and take all the specimens you could ever want.
But nope, they just can't seem to figure that one out.
You know, cause they are so advanced.
The entire idea of aliens from another planet is the most idiotic, weak minded lie perpetuated on a dumbed down audience ever.
Not to mention that EVERY real investigative professional that has ever really done any real work in this field says so as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77022514


Not only that, but they seem to already know how to speak English, and they communicate with people telepathically.

But even though they must have a detailed understanding of human culture and physiology to do the things above, they still need to preform silly, strange tests on people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77428734


The ‘medical examination’ to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks.”
Dr. Jacques Vallee
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77022514


I agree with Prof Vallee. It might be instructive to understand the predilections of those who promulgate this narrative of 'sadistic sexual manipulation'. No doubt, that'll all eventually come out in the wash.
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A large part of the Abduction phenomenon is closely linked with mysticism and the metaphysical. It deals with subjects like mental telepathy, automatic writing and invisible entities as well as phenomena like poltergeist [ghost] manifestation and 'possession.' Many of the UFO reports now being published in the popular press recount alleged incidents that are strikingly similar to demonic possession and psychic phenomena." - Lynn E. Catoe
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Aliens are Demons end of story... look up Aliester Crowley's 1918 drawing of the demon Lam he said visited and communicated with him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72509379


so sick of people saying this
jsut because he drew a picture of a "demon" that looked like an alien, doesn't mean that all aliens are demons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73619410


John Keel, a ufologist, and the author of The Mothman Prophecies (the basis of the film by the same name) wrote succinctly,

“The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.”
(John A. Keel, Operation Trojan Horse pg. 299)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77022514


That is the only explanation that actually flies, as they say. The 'spaceships' turn and accelerate instantly, skip through time, fly supersonic with no shockwave, visually disappearing and reappearing, can be silent, can be in any shape or form, or no form.
No physical objects can do these things in our objective reality.
Which brings up the only explanation that works.
Demonological phenomenon.
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hesright

Jacques Vallee did not come to those same conclusions at all.
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Yup. Jacques Vallee figured it out, but has to be very careful in how he phrases his conclusions as to not frighten the cattle.
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Could you summarize what he says if you don't mind. Or post a link to it if not? I am curious.
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Just a quick summary, there is so much more to it, and I'm sure I could never do Vallee justice.

The UFO phenomenon has most likely been around since the beginning of humanity and it behaves like a feedback loop that is constantly challenging humanity. The entities have more in common with old folklore tales of elves and fairies than they do with an extraterrestrial intelligence. The entities are deceptive in nature and evolve their tactics/narratives to correspond with human technology and scientific understanding.

For example, in the 40s-60s before space travel really took off, the claims were that they were from Mars and Venus. When space tech took off and our satellites explored those regions in space they changed their stories to being from different star systems. Basically they tell people they're from places we can't see or observe at the present time.

Another example is that in the 1800s, UFOs were often reported as looking like airships. Eventually we made airships and then UFOs changed in appearance to what we see in modern times. It's almost as if there is a weird dance going on between these entities and humanity. Some sort of perverse dialogue of deception.

Vallee, from my understanding ( as I said, he's very cryptic and careful with how he words things ), doesn't believe these entities are extraterrestrial. From my own personal experience, I agree with him.
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Yep, yep, and yep.....Extraterrestrials would not be screwing around with us like that.
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Disinfo.
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I'm open to the possibility.

What do you have to support this?
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The biggest threat from real extraterrestrials would be the risk of infection with alien microbes or spores.
Anyone intelligent enough to overcome space and time to arrive here would be too advanced to stick lasers up your butt or burn the udders off a hapless cow.
Makes no sense they would put out all that effort to seek out a new civilization, (us) only to tie tin cans to our tails.
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The biggest threat from real extraterrestrials would be the risk of infection with alien microbes or spores.
Anyone intelligent enough to overcome space and time to arrive here would be too advanced to stick lasers up your butt or burn the udders off a hapless cow.
Makes no sense they would put out all that effort to seek out a new civilization, (us) only to tie tin cans to our tails.
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But, but. It's a giant, massive conspiracy and the aliens are in league with the US military and they are secretly............

Yep. Your right. It's idiotic.
Aliens who could travel through the rigors of time and space to arrive here would have to be incredibly advanced.
So advanced, their would be no reason whatsoever to play stupid, human imagined games and redundant, never ending games.
They would simply just do as they please and take what they want.
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are bollocks.
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Disinfo.
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hesright

Jacques Vallee did not come to those same conclusions at all.
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Yup. Jacques Vallee figured it out, but has to be very careful in how he phrases his conclusions as to not frighten the cattle.
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Truth right there. ^^^^
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hesright

Jacques Vallee did not come to those same conclusions at all.
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Yup. Jacques Vallee figured it out, but has to be very careful in how he phrases his conclusions as to not frighten the cattle.
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Could you summarize what he says if you don't mind. Or post a link to it if not? I am curious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77007811


Just a quick summary, there is so much more to it, and I'm sure I could never do Vallee justice.

The UFO phenomenon has most likely been around since the beginning of humanity and it behaves like a feedback loop that is constantly challenging humanity. The entities have more in common with old folklore tales of elves and fairies than they do with an extraterrestrial intelligence. The entities are deceptive in nature and evolve their tactics/narratives to correspond with human technology and scientific understanding.

For example, in the 40s-60s before space travel really took off, the claims were that they were from Mars and Venus. When space tech took off and our satellites explored those regions in space they changed their stories to being from different star systems. Basically they tell people they're from places we can't see or observe at the present time.

Another example is that in the 1800s, UFOs were often reported as looking like airships. Eventually we made airships and then UFOs changed in appearance to what we see in modern times. It's almost as if there is a weird dance going on between these entities and humanity. Some sort of perverse dialogue of deception.

Vallee, from my understanding ( as I said, he's very cryptic and careful with how he words things ), doesn't believe these entities are extraterrestrial. From my own personal experience, I agree with him.
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I do as well. John Keel felt a bit similar.
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Could you summarize what he says if you don't mind. Or post a link to it if not? I am curious.
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Just a quick summary, there is so much more to it, and I'm sure I could never do Vallee justice.

The UFO phenomenon has most likely been around since the beginning of humanity and it behaves like a feedback loop that is constantly challenging humanity. The entities have more in common with old folklore tales of elves and fairies than they do with an extraterrestrial intelligence. The entities are deceptive in nature and evolve their tactics/narratives to correspond with human technology and scientific understanding.

For example, in the 40s-60s before space travel really took off, the claims were that they were from Mars and Venus. When space tech took off and our satellites explored those regions in space they changed their stories to being from different star systems. Basically they tell people they're from places we can't see or observe at the present time.

Another example is that in the 1800s, UFOs were often reported as looking like airships. Eventually we made airships and then UFOs changed in appearance to what we see in modern times. It's almost as if there is a weird dance going on between these entities and humanity. Some sort of perverse dialogue of deception.

Vallee, from my understanding ( as I said, he's very cryptic and careful with how he words things ), doesn't believe these entities are extraterrestrial. From my own personal experience, I agree with him.
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Right. Demons...
Ephesians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

[link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]
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The Sons of God
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Fallen angels and their ilk.
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Exactly.
Here's another one.
These aliens are advanced.
So advanced that their MO is to do useless, pointless, weird, very painful "experiments" bordering on torture according to folks who swear up and down that they were abducted.
Or they beamed up a cow in Argentina and shoved a plasma laser up its ass. For some advanced reason.
Now these aliens and the abductees claim these "experiments" are being done so they can understand the human race by taking blood and semen and skin etc, etc. But they want to remain in the shadows and not be known to the general population. Boy, for such advanced beings that sure failed since we are discussing them. I thought they had cloaking devises and such?
Also, If they are so advanced and observing us, how did they not notice that their are hundreds of thousands of blood banks, semen banks, hospitals and other medical facilities with every possible specimen known to man available and they all have operating hours of 9am to 5 pm?
How'd they miss that? Just go hover with your space disk at midnight over these facilities and take all the specimens you could ever want.
But nope, they just can't seem to figure that one out.
You know, cause they are so advanced.
The entire idea of aliens from another planet is the most idiotic, weak minded lie perpetuated on a dumbed down audience ever.
Not to mention that EVERY real investigative professional that has ever really done any real work in this field says so as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77022514


Not only that, but they seem to already know how to speak English, and they communicate with people telepathically.

But even though they must have a detailed understanding of human culture and physiology to do the things above, they still need to preform silly, strange tests on people.
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The ‘medical examination’ to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks.”
Dr. Jacques Vallee
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Re: R.I.P. - After Decades Of Study Stanton Friedman's 4 Conclusions About UFO's
Aliens are Demons end of story... look up Aliester Crowley's 1918 drawing of the demon Lam he said visited and communicated with him.
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If there are physical pieces of craft, they are not demonic. Spiritual beings can't manufacture physical objects. If those pieces do not exist, then there is the real possibility that the whole UFO thing is demonic.