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Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.

 
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Heartbeat can't even be used as a way to determine if someone is alive or not.

Dick Cheney spent months without a heartbeat and I very much doubt he was considered dead
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But it was fitting that he had no heart anymore afro
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In cases of rape, incest and the mothers health (long and short term) the ability to receive an abortion should be allowed.
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I agree with this. The problem is 20 Republican assholes in Alabama voted specifically against this.
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Remember when Huckabee denied the retarded girl who was raped to have an abortion?

Like she would have been a fit mother? Um. No. It's just ridiculous to make these choices for women and their families and make it a blanket law.

There are always cases where a woman needs an abortion, but law makers would rather the women die or struggle. ok.
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Heartbeat can't even be used as a way to determine if someone is alive or not.

Dick Cheney spent months without a heartbeat and I very much doubt he was considered dead
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LOL.
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I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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i have personally seen this on more than one occasion. not with any woman i had anything to do with, but through acquaintances.
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There have been threads here of women bragging about aborting their babies & saying that was their birth control.
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^This

even troll threads have some basis in reality
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Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
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A hormone
(from the Greek participle “ὁρμῶν”, "setting in motion")
is any member of a class of signaling
molecules produced by
glands in multicellular
organisms that are transported by the circulatory system
to target distant organs
to regulate physiology and behavior.
Hormones have diverse chemical structures, mainly of three classes: eicosanoids, steroids, and amino acid/protein derivatives (amines, peptides, and proteins). The glands that secrete hormones comprise the endocrine signaling system. The term hormone is sometimes extended to include chemicals produced by cells that affect the same cell (autocrine or intracrine signalling) or nearby cells (paracrine signalling).

Hormones are used to communicate between organs and tissues for physiological regulation and behavioral activities, such as
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I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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i have personally seen this on more than one occasion. not with any woman i had anything to do with, but through acquaintances.
 Quoting: jj johns


There have been threads here of women bragging about aborting their babies & saying that was their birth control.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


^This

even troll threads have some basis in reality
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37168377


LOL.
Threads of women bragging. HAHAHHAHAHAHAH.
Great source of information. LOLOLOLOL.
OMG really?
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Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
 Quoting: MissCleo


America is being taken over by crazy Evangelicals?
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A hormone
(from the Greek participle “ὁρμῶν”, "setting in motion")
is any member of a class of signaling
molecules produced by
glands in multicellular
organisms that are transported by the circulatory system
to target distant organs
to regulate physiology and behavior.
Hormones have diverse chemical structures, mainly of three classes: eicosanoids, steroids, and amino acid/protein derivatives (amines, peptides, and proteins). The glands that secrete hormones comprise the endocrine signaling system. The term hormone is sometimes extended to include chemicals produced by cells that affect the same cell (autocrine or intracrine signalling) or nearby cells (paracrine signalling).

Hormones are used to communicate between organs and tissues for physiological regulation and behavioral activities, such as
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EJACULATION of LIVE SPERM.
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True dat
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Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
 Quoting: MissCleo


America is being taken over by crazy Evangelicals?
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Evangelicals are being TARGETED by terrorists because they play on the religious factor. In reality it's a Trojan Horse designed to KILL AMERICA and all the babies and women and children and everyone else so Muslims can populate.
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Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
 Quoting: MissCleo


America is being taken over by crazy Evangelicals?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


Evangelicals are being TARGETED by terrorists because they play on the religious factor. In reality it's a Trojan Horse designed to KILL AMERICA and all the babies and women and children and everyone else so Muslims can populate.
 Quoting: MissCleo


So evangelicals are clueless tools?
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I have looked and looked and yet it still eludes me. Does anyone know where the abortion section of the constitution is? I found the part that talks about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the key word there being life.

Listen, I don't care what women do with their bodies. An abortion is not about just their body.

Here's how it works;

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it and they decided on an abortion. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants an abortion and he does not. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants to keep it and he does not. She keeps it, raises it and now he pays child support for the rest of his life (18 years).

Where is the choice for the man? If she goes to a clinic with the man, he has no say and no ability to voice his opinion. Whereas she will be asked if anyone is pressuring her or supporting her.

In cases of rape, incest and the mothers health (long and short term) the ability to receive an abortion should be allowed. In every other situation it comes down to personal responsibility. There are condoms, birth control pills, vasectomies for the older guys, tubes getting tied for the older women or the women who already have like 8 kids.

Abortion removes personal responsibility and it is not a form of birth control.

By banning abortion in most cases no woman has lost the ability to control her body. Simply she (and the man) have been told to act like adults and take responsibility for their actions. She still has control over her body. A few examples;

A man and woman want to have sex, he has no condom and she is not on the pill = no sex.

A man and woman want to have sex, he has a condom and she is not on the pill = they either have sex or she says no.

A man and woman want to have sex, she is on the pill and he has no condom = they either have sex or she says no.

Am I missing the part where the guy gets to decide whether sex occurs or not. Men have no power to decide if sex occurs. That's called rape and it's a crime.

sex is a pro-creative act that has pleasuring benefits. It is not a recreational sport nor is it a weapon. It certainly is not there for men and women to do what they will with no regard for consequences.

I would argue that everyone is pro choice. We ALL have the choice to have unprotected sex. However, we are not all pro consequence or pro personal responsibility. Some argue that you should be allowed to do what you want and if unintended consequences happen then you should simply be allowed to pretend they didn't. Others argue that you should be held accountable for your actions. It's that simple.
 Quoting: Bananafighter


I agree with Margaret Sanger, let the fools kill their babies, let their dumb ass death cult loving blood line die off. Its an easy, quiet way to cull the children of the people who don't agree with our American way of life.
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grizzy Abortion is a very serious matter from a biblical point of view.

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You have to look at the meaning of the word
"Birth CONTROL"
I would have to say abortion IS a form of "Birth CONTROL"
How in the world isn't it?
If that does not control BIRTH
I don't know what does.
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Read it. They are God’s and have the awesome power to take or give life.

Thread: Hippocratic Oath
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Blah blah blah

The moral police are all always high and mighty until they need one.
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The argument that not being for abortions is a moral high ground is old and invalid. It's not about morality. It's about personal responsibility. There is a huge difference.

Did you grow up learning that there are no consequences to your actions? That no matter what you do it's okay because it can be undone?
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I am completely pro-life no exceptions (except life of mother). That being said most of the women who have abortions feel they have no choice. If we are going to be the moral high ground than we need to provide support for these young girls and women. Instead, as soon as they decline that abortion we’re all like “ok thank you, you did the right thing...goodbye “.

Instead we should be helping them find a safe and loving environment for themselves and the baby, gainful employment, so they can comfortably support themselves, safe housing, trustworthy childcare, etc. I’m not talking shoving them into government programs, those are a trap. We as a society need to offer a better choice than abortion and right now we offer them nothing.

I’ve heard the ole birth control is free argument but that’s a moot point after a pregnancy happens. Berating someone after the fact does nothing but ensures the next mistake (whatever it is) they won’t be listening to us..
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i have personally seen this on more than one occasion. not with any woman i had anything to do with, but through acquaintances.
 Quoting: jj johns


There have been threads here of women bragging about aborting their babies & saying that was their birth control.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


^This

even troll threads have some basis in reality
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37168377


LOL.
Threads of women bragging. HAHAHHAHAHAHAH.
Great source of information. LOLOLOLOL.
OMG really?
 Quoting: MissCleo


oh it's OK we know how much you hate and despise men
it's sad really

however, making the baby pay (by murdering it in the womb) for the crime of the pervert, homegrown rapist, immigrant rapefugee, or a legit father
is not right in any case whatsoever
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what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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Two wrongs don’t make a right. She can turn something horrible into something positive and give the child life. She doesn’t have to raise the child. Or she takes the morning after pill after the attack happens at the hospital and the rape is reported to police.
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however, making the baby pay (by murdering it in the womb) for the crime of the pervert, homegrown rapist, immigrant rapefugee, or a legit father
is not right in any case whatsoever
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Making the victim pay is better? lol
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Or she takes the morning after pill after the attack happens at the hospital and the rape is reported to police.
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Why should the morning after pill be OK and not an abortion in the first weeks?

It's basically the same thing
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I wonder what people think of the flip side as well. Women who have to many kids and women who are so old that if they have a child the risk of mental and physical issues is high?
 Quoting: Bananafighter


Then get on birth control or get your tubes tied. Murder shouldn’t happen because you are stupid.
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Where is the choice for the baby?
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I don't get the question. Either the adults take responsibility for their actions or they don't have sex. Are you implying that it's not the babies choice to be born into the world? If you are then that's insane. None of us decided that. That's how life, procreation and nature works. You are born into the world, live, grow and die. It's called life.
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No contaceptive is 100% effective, even on the pill 1 in a 100 fall pregnant, do the maths on that alone, then up those figures for other forms of contaceptives, which are less effective.

That alone, is thousands, of obviously unwanted pregnancies.
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Then she uses the pill and the man uses a condom. No excuse to murder a child because you just wanted to have some fun but didn’t want to take additional precautions.
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murder a child
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it's not a child before at least 6-8 weeks, and that's being very generous with the definition
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In cases of rape, incest and the mothers health (long and short term) the ability to receive an abortion should be allowed.
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I agree with this. The problem is 20 Republican assholes in Alabama voted specifically against this.
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Remember when Huckabee denied the retarded girl who was raped to have an abortion?

Like she would have been a fit mother? Um. No. It's just ridiculous to make these choices for women and their families and make it a blanket law.

There are always cases where a woman needs an abortion, but law makers would rather the women die or struggle. ok.
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While there are unwanted pregnancies there are truly no unwanted babies.
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its time for the revenge of the unborn -

DEATH IS AT HAND
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I hate abortion threads but I liked your OP, OP
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I wanted to bring about a discussion to force people into considering the multiple factors that come into play.

Failed contraception. Should they be forced to keep a child they didn't plan on having and tried to prevent?

Learning a child may be born with physical of mental handicaps. Quality of life is brought into play here. Should they be forced to bring a child into the world that will never be able to care for themselves?

The conversation is always, it's a womans choice. Period. Or it's a human life. Period.

I think before lawmakers decide what should and should not be done they need to consider all aspects of the unwanted pregnancies.

You certainly have women out there who have had multiple abortions. You have woman who also try to use pregnancy as a weapon to trap a man. You have men (few) who do the same but a blanket yes or no conversation is false. I well thought out platform needs to be brought up and addressed.
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Failed contraception is not good enough. Anyone can say that in order to abort. You don’t want a child. Don’t have sex or get yourself fixed permanently.

And here are many people that adopt special needs children.
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Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
 Quoting: MissCleo




^^^ THIS^^^

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