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Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.

 
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If a woman has a right to abortion, why doesn’t a man have a right to a “financial abortion”?

Why does a woman have a right to determine a man’s life, but not vice versa?
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The man needs to use a condom or get snipped if he doesn’t want a child. Or just don’t have sex. Easy.
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LOL.

Tell a man he can't have sex... and what happens?
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Have him go to a prostitute then who is going to make sure she doesn’t get pregnant if he can’t control himself. Don’t just use women for his own pleasure and think there isn’t a price to pay.
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I predict laws banning abortion will be very much like the Prohibition laws against alcohol and will be repealed a few years after enacting them.
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Before that happens there will be a rise in "accidents", "kidnapped children" and foster homes for kids which will cost taxpayers a lot more than free abortions. You can't restore moral through law. But in a materialistic society you can make them regret their choices by lets say one time payment of 50% of their yearly income or a 50% cut in social security for one year.

This will backfire badly, either way, tptb will make sure of that.
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what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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Your type always go to the extremes. What is the percentage of raped victims getting pregnant.
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Percentage of abortion performed bc woman was raped or had incestuous relationship:

LESS THAN 0.1%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29218324



No, you are wrong. There are a lot more than that, it's just that most woman don't report rape.

On top of that, many woman are raped by their violent husbands/partners, and it's extremely common for the violent man to confiscate the womans contraceptives, purposely getting them pregnant, as a form of control, and of forcing the woman to stay with him (unable to financially support oneself due to being pregnant/unable to work)

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Then they can get help and he gets prison time. The child can be adopted out if she doesn’t want to raise it.
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Birth control means not getting pregnant in the first plane. Give all males free vasectomies which can be reversed when their ready to be a parent. Now that would be SAFE birth control.
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Are the vasectomies going to be forced?
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Probably only for the non muz, if you're male, you might have to grow a beard and wear a dress lol

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One of the best responses I have read.
This will get buried, but I'll say it anyway.

To the pro-life people out there: I understand how you feel. Honestly. This is such a difficult moral issue, and I know there are plenty of people who feel like murder is finally illegal. I get it.

But there is so so much more to this than the question of one life or two. In the United States, you have to choose to be an organ donor. You can't even use a corpse to save someone's life unless that person gave explicit consent when they were alive. You certainly can't force a living person to give up an organ to save a life, even if both people would walk away alive. That is the concept of bodily autonomy.

Just consider for a moment the incredible cost of pregnancy and birth. Your body physically changes in dozens of ways. You probably experience nausea, dizziness, swelling, back pain, constipation, mood swings. You have to change what you eat, what you drink, how you move, what you do. You may be unable to work or go to school. You may be let go for spurious reasons. You may find it difficult to find people to hire you. You will need ultrasounds, checkups -- health insurance. You will go through the most physically painful experience of your life, where in 70% of cases the baby literally tears its way out of you. You will owe the hospital thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars. Your body will physically never be the same.

Now imagine you never chose this. You never wanted this. But you have no choice.

How can someone end up pregnant and not want to be? There are a myriad of scenarios, all with moral implications. Maybe you have a steady partner and you are using birth control, but the birth control didn't work. Maybe the condom broke. Maybe he couldn't pull out in time. Maybe you never learned about birth control because your school only taught you about abstinence. You didn't intend it, but here you are.

And then worse. Maybe he lied and took off the condom when you wouldn't notice. Maybe he drugged you and raped your unconscious body, or maybe he raped you while you were awake, so the sounds and the pain and the smell is seared into your brain. Maybe he is your teacher, your pastor, your police officer. Maybe he is your brother, your uncle. Maybe he is your father. It happens so much more often than any of us want to think or talk about. And now the seed, the DNA of the person who violated you, is growing inside you, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

So you give birth, unprepared and unwilling. Because you didn't want or plan for this pregnancy, chances are you didn't take care of yourself as well as is ideal, and chances are you are not providing an ideal life for this child. Maybe you drank alcohol before you knew you were pregnant, or you drank alcohol on purpose to try to kill your baby. Maybe you smoked. Maybe you are addicted to opiates and now your child will be too. Maybe you are poor -- the cost of childbirth didn't help -- and have no means to buy food, diapers, cribs, or other supplies for your baby. Maybe you are a felon or are otherwise ineligible for SNAP or WIC. Maybe your partner beats you and will beat your child, but you can't leave because then you would be homeless. Maybe you are homeless. Maybe your partner left you. How will you get a job? Who will take care of the baby? If you are in school, you almost certainly have to drop out. The effects of neglect, of abuse, of malnourishment, of fetal alcohol syndrome, of neonatal abstinence syndrome, all of these have profoundly negative effects on the child for the rest of their lives.

It is understandable why some pregnant women become desperate, and what a desperate person can do can be horrifying for everyone involved. To quote a clinic administrator (from the 2016 documentary Trapped):

I told her you can come to San Antonio and we can help you here, and she said, "I can't, I don't have the means, there's no way I can get to San Antonio. So what if I tell you what I have in my kitchen cabinet, and you can tell me what I can do."

I doubt anyone's read this far. It's for my own catharsis anyway. But given that you can't obligate someone to give up their bodily autonomy to save someone's life in other cases, why is this, pregnancy and childbirth, something that will affect someone for the rest of their life, why is this mandated? Why should a mass of cells without even a brain have the right to require of a living woman what we cannot even demand of a corpse? So many women who have had abortions and later have children express the relief and gratitude that they didn't have a child when they weren't ready. Because of their choice, they were able to save their own lives and bring new life into the world for whom they could properly care.

Now, because of this law, thousands will suffer. The Alabama lawmakers have already handed down their sentences. They had a choice. Now we do not."
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Life is not always easy and murder isn’t the answer.
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I predict laws banning abortion will be very much like the Prohibition laws against alcohol and will be repealed a few years after enacting them.
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No, abortions aren’t popular. Alcohol always was.

There aren’t so many women aborting babies that criminal organizations will spring up just to make billions serving the need in underground clinics. PP currently survives because of taxpayers through the federal government, oh, and selling body parts.

Prohibition banned a relatively harmless recreational vice for most people, which lead to it’s eventual overturning, while every act of abortion is a murder, and no matter how you slice it, people won’t suddenly change their mind on murder.

Abortion is a true low and degenerate act. The day it’s banned would be the day this nation starts walking towards God’s grace again.

Protecting the unborn innocent is not even in the same league as alcohol.
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One of the best responses I have read.
This will get buried, but I'll say it anyway.

To the pro-life people out there: I understand how you feel. Honestly. This is such a difficult moral issue, and I know there are plenty of people who feel like murder is finally illegal. I get it.

But there is so so much more to this than the question of one life or two. In the United States, you have to choose to be an organ donor. You can't even use a corpse to save someone's life unless that person gave explicit consent when they were alive. You certainly can't force a living person to give up an organ to save a life, even if both people would walk away alive. That is the concept of bodily autonomy.

Just consider for a moment the incredible cost of pregnancy and birth. Your body physically changes in dozens of ways. You probably experience nausea, dizziness, swelling, back pain, constipation, mood swings. You have to change what you eat, what you drink, how you move, what you do. You may be unable to work or go to school. You may be let go for spurious reasons. You may find it difficult to find people to hire you. You will need ultrasounds, checkups -- health insurance. You will go through the most physically painful experience of your life, where in 70% of cases the baby literally tears its way out of you. You will owe the hospital thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars. Your body will physically never be the same.

Now imagine you never chose this. You never wanted this. But you have no choice.

How can someone end up pregnant and not want to be? There are a myriad of scenarios, all with moral implications. Maybe you have a steady partner and you are using birth control, but the birth control didn't work. Maybe the condom broke. Maybe he couldn't pull out in time. Maybe you never learned about birth control because your school only taught you about abstinence. You didn't intend it, but here you are.

And then worse. Maybe he lied and took off the condom when you wouldn't notice. Maybe he drugged you and raped your unconscious body, or maybe he raped you while you were awake, so the sounds and the pain and the smell is seared into your brain. Maybe he is your teacher, your pastor, your police officer. Maybe he is your brother, your uncle. Maybe he is your father. It happens so much more often than any of us want to think or talk about. And now the seed, the DNA of the person who violated you, is growing inside you, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

So you give birth, unprepared and unwilling. Because you didn't want or plan for this pregnancy, chances are you didn't take care of yourself as well as is ideal, and chances are you are not providing an ideal life for this child. Maybe you drank alcohol before you knew you were pregnant, or you drank alcohol on purpose to try to kill your baby. Maybe you smoked. Maybe you are addicted to opiates and now your child will be too. Maybe you are poor -- the cost of childbirth didn't help -- and have no means to buy food, diapers, cribs, or other supplies for your baby. Maybe you are a felon or are otherwise ineligible for SNAP or WIC. Maybe your partner beats you and will beat your child, but you can't leave because then you would be homeless. Maybe you are homeless. Maybe your partner left you. How will you get a job? Who will take care of the baby? If you are in school, you almost certainly have to drop out. The effects of neglect, of abuse, of malnourishment, of fetal alcohol syndrome, of neonatal abstinence syndrome, all of these have profoundly negative effects on the child for the rest of their lives.

It is understandable why some pregnant women become desperate, and what a desperate person can do can be horrifying for everyone involved. To quote a clinic administrator (from the 2016 documentary Trapped):

I told her you can come to San Antonio and we can help you here, and she said, "I can't, I don't have the means, there's no way I can get to San Antonio. So what if I tell you what I have in my kitchen cabinet, and you can tell me what I can do."

I doubt anyone's read this far. It's for my own catharsis anyway. But given that you can't obligate someone to give up their bodily autonomy to save someone's life in other cases, why is this, pregnancy and childbirth, something that will affect someone for the rest of their life, why is this mandated? Why should a mass of cells without even a brain have the right to require of a living woman what we cannot even demand of a corpse? So many women who have had abortions and later have children express the relief and gratitude that they didn't have a child when they weren't ready. Because of their choice, they were able to save their own lives and bring new life into the world for whom they could properly care.

Now, because of this law, thousands will suffer. The Alabama lawmakers have already handed down their sentences. They had a choice. Now we do not."
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 Quoting: MissCleo


I read that far.
Women will seek out abortion if it illegal or not and they will die from illegal abortion. Fact.

Lack of choice is hegemony, a step closer to communism.


If they choose to kill themselves then that is their choice. There is so much help out there for pregnant women now that none have to go through it alone. And pregnancy without being married is no longer a social stigma. There is no reason for a women to take her life anymore just because she is pregnant.
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I love how all the guys in the thread completely ignores what a mother has to go through during a pregnancy. Says a lot about how they view women, less than people. Like that Republican guy who said women are "host bodies".


"You don't want a child? OK then carry it and suffer for months, risk losing your job, then give the child away. EASY !!!"

"What you are still complaining? Sorry you don't have anything to say in this, the baby is the only things that matters."


Pure hypocrisy and veiled misogyny
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God comands killing Act I, scene v]: Murther most foul,


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Act I. Scene V. Shakespeare, William. 1909-14. ... O God! 28. Ghost. Revenge his foul and most unnatural murder. Ham. Murder! Ghost. Murder ... Is by a forged process 4 of my death. Rankly abus'd; 5 ...



its time for the revenge of the unborn -

DEATH IS AT HAND
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Blah blah blah

The moral police are all always high and mighty until they need one.
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The argument that not being for abortions is a moral high ground is old and invalid. It's not about morality. It's about personal responsibility. There is a huge difference.

Did you grow up learning that there are no consequences to your actions? That no matter what you do it's okay because it can be undone?
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I am completely pro-life no exceptions (except life of mother). That being said most of the women who have abortions feel they have no choice. If we are going to be the moral high ground than we need to provide support for these young girls and women. Instead, as soon as they decline that abortion we’re all like “ok thank you, you did the right thing...goodbye “.

Instead we should be helping them find a safe and loving environment for themselves and the baby, gainful employment, so they can comfortably support themselves, safe housing, trustworthy childcare, etc. I’m not talking shoving them into government programs, those are a trap. We as a society need to offer a better choice than abortion and right now we offer them nothing.

I’ve heard the ole birth control is free argument but that’s a moot point after a pregnancy happens. Berating someone after the fact does nothing but ensures the next mistake (whatever it is) they won’t be listening to us..
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Then step up and be the first. Be the change.

If you expect a government program to do this, keep on waiting.
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It's a complicated matter.


Anyone trying to pretend it's as simple as ALL ABORTIONS SHOULD BE BANNED is being willingly ignorant or puts religion above law.
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The original quartos of Hamlet in 1603 and 1604–5, as well as other quartos published before 1623, had no act-scene ... where the Ghost speaks: "Murder most foul,
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I haven't read the whole thread but I see no one on the news is mentioning that in cases of rape and incest the woman could be given THE DAY-AFTER PILL.

There's no heartbeat yet so a woman that's a victim of rape or incest could pop a few of those pills for a few days, problem solved.

Am I wrong?
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Yup. There is the morning after pill. And in order for an abortion to happen she would have to prove rape and incest. Not just say it happened in order to get an abortion. In the case of incest she would be removed from the home as well. But if the pregnancy has gone too far then no abortion.
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time travel?
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I love how all the guys in the thread completely ignores what a mother has to go through during a pregnancy. Says a lot about how they view women, less than people. Like that Republican guy who said women are "host bodies".


"You don't want a child? OK then carry it and suffer for months, risk losing your job, then give the child away. EASY !!!"

"What you are still complaining? Sorry you don't have anything to say in this, the baby is the only things that matters."


Pure hypocrisy and veiled misogyny
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I have three children and caught my first child when it was delivered. I was the first human being to touch my son outside of the womb.

I watched every labor and the struggle, I gained more respect for my wife because of pregnancy than any other act could have done. Life is a battle, always has been, bodies change, you grow old, you get beat up, men get hurt at work, women may get hurt in pregnancy, nothing stops that, always will be there, but I would take the love of my children and the struggle any day over watching my child get dismembered and sucked from the womb.

You are a preening piece of shit.
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Abortion is viewed by many as murder because of a religious view. That is basically, the reason why people look at it as immoral. That is a brainwashing.

Abortion is not murder. Shortly, before birth, a soul decides to enter a fetus. It is not actually a person until the soul enters by Choice or is put there by divine source.

If an abortion takes place, the soul simply goes back to where it came from. It is not murder!

Further, many say what rights does the baby have. The answer is none, if either parents do not want the child.

A child deserves to have both parents while growing up. If either one does not want the responsibility, then, the child does not have the right to make the decision.

The decision can only be made by the parents. It is their decision. If either one does not want the child, then, the hold should not be born.

One parent, a lone should not make the decision.

The responsibility to have a child requires the consent of "both parents", morally, ethically and responsibly.
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How do you know for sure about the soul? Are you God? Sounds like a religious view to me. You don’t know anything.
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Abortion is viewed by many as murder because of a religious view. That is basically, the reason why people look at it as immoral. That is a brainwashing.

Abortion is not murder. Shortly, before birth, a soul decides to enter a fetus. It is not actually a person until the soul enters by Choice or is put there by divine source.

If an abortion takes place, the soul simply goes back to where it came from. It is not murder!

Further, many say what rights does the baby have. The answer is none, if either parents do not want the child.

A child deserves to have both parents while growing up. If either one does not want the responsibility, then, the child does not have the right to make the decision.

The decision can only be made by the parents. It is their decision. If either one does not want the child, then, the hold should not be born.

One parent, a lone should not make the decision.

The responsibility to have a child requires the consent of "both parents", morally, ethically and responsibly.
 Quoting: Raheem 77052925


Exactly. Forcing an unwanted child into the world is even more cruel than abortion as it will cause a whole life of suffering.

There have been many cases of children suing their parents for not taking an abortion when the parents knew the child would be severely handicapped or unwanted.

So basically if even the kids say they should have been aborted, I don't see how making ALL abortions is legal is more moral. It's not
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Adopt the child out if you don’t want it. Plenty of people want to adopt. And they will pay for the pregnancy as well.
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I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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i have personally seen this on more than one occasion. not with any woman i had anything to do with, but through acquaintances.
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I know one woman who has had 3 abortions that i know of for certain. She used it as birth control.
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I love how all the guys in the thread completely ignores what a mother has to go through during a pregnancy. Says a lot about how they view women, less than people. Like that Republican guy who said women are "host bodies".


"You don't want a child? OK then carry it and suffer for months, risk losing your job, then give the child away. EASY !!!"

"What you are still complaining? Sorry you don't have anything to say in this, the baby is the only things that matters."


Pure hypocrisy and veiled misogyny
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


I have three children and caught my first child when it was delivered. I was the first human being to touch my son outside of the womb.

I watched every labor and the struggle, I gained more respect for my wife because of pregnancy than any other act could have done. Life is a battle, always has been, bodies change, you grow old, you get beat up, men get hurt at work, women may get hurt in pregnancy, nothing stops that, always will be there, but I would take the love of my children and the struggle any day over watching my child get dismembered and sucked from the womb.

You are a preening piece of shit.
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You are using a straw man if you think I support aborting children which are wanted by their parents.


But if a women tells you she doesn't want to have the child (for whatever reason, really); how is it your decision or the state to tell her; fuck you ma'm, you'll keep the child that's what you will do.

And fuck the Republican who claimed women are nothing but "host bodies"
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I predict laws banning abortion will be very much like the Prohibition laws against alcohol and will be repealed a few years after enacting them.
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Yeah, a few horror stories about women dying through back alley abortions and that will be the end of it.
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There are plenty of options for pregnant women now unlike decades ago when it wasn’t easy for them. And just double up on the pill if you think you are pregnant.
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I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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Ofcourse you didnt hear that.
But its the easiest way for women to whore around getting unprotected sex.
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Birth control means not getting pregnant in the first plane. Give all males free vasectomies which can be reversed when their ready to be a parent. Now that would be SAFE birth control.
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Or make the men more financially responsible for the pregnancy and the child after it's born. it takes two and often only the woman is left to deal with the child.

Men need to step up and use protection and then do the RIGHT thing if the woman becomes pregnant.

I have never understood why men can just walk away.
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That’s why women need to be very choosy with who they have sex with. They should be wearing a wedding ring with a man that they know wants a family.
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Deuteronomy 22:23-29 New International Version (NIV)
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
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Or do you sincerely believe a victim would not take a morning after pill and wait a few more weeks to get an abortion just fur the fun? Lol
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Ok...
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I'm being serious.

Of course the morning after pill is the better solution and is probably enforced as much as possible. No one is denying it.

But what if it wasn't?

Alabama now states these victims should be forced to have the pregnancy up to term. That's evil
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It’s not evil to protect the child.
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There is a lot of circumstances abortion should be allowed.

Especially rape.
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Then she better be able to prove it.
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Re: Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.
In cases of rape, incest and the mothers health (long and short term) the ability to receive an abortion should be allowed.
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I agree with this. The problem is 20 Republican assholes in Alabama voted specifically against this.
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Remember when Huckabee denied the retarded girl who was raped to have an abortion?

Like she would have been a fit mother? Um. No. It's just ridiculous to make these choices for women and their families and make it a blanket law.

There are always cases where a woman needs an abortion, but law makers would rather the women die or struggle. ok.
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Family would have taken care of the child or there is adoption.
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Re: Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.
I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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Ofcourse you didnt hear that.
But its the easiest way for women to whore around getting unprotected sex.
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uh no dude, the easiest way is the morning after pill, and you are an idiot if you believe women chose abortion like it's nothing and don't suffer from it too. It's a difficult choice
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Re: Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.
what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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I completely agree. Rape and Incest (which is arguably rape itself) and the mothers health should be the only factors taken into consideration when talking abortion. Not because you had unprotected sex and don't want a kid. Don't have unprotected sex and guess what, no kid.
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Then MOTHER FUCKER be more clear in your title and post that you support abortion for 10 year old rape victims
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Re: Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.
Most importantly we are expecting 100,000,000 million immigrants that will crash our borders and rape women in the US. These terrorists will impregnate intentionally!.

These terrorists will IMPREGNATE INTENTIONALLY.

And the law is now already in place for those Islamic soldiers to be born.

See what's happening here?
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Then you go to the hospital and get the morning after pill and report the rape right away.