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Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.

 
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Where is the choice for the baby?
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There is no choice, its a fucking murder plane and simple. Its just that those who benefit or want to do that don't want to be looked down upon, much like homosexuality. The sin they all embrace will be their certain death in the end, no matter what anyone thinks or feels.

But you can walk in and pay your four hundred dollars and kill your baby in the name of what ever ya like, but when you leave, remember they are parting out your child to the highest bidder for thousands, and robbing your child of life for their adrenochrome and thirst to serve!! Which implicates you in their worship of Moloch!skull_fing
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Here it goes! Homosexuality put as equal to abortion. Sins that lead to death!

Enough with fanatic religion, really! I go three times a week on holy mass, and i really hate the fanaticism of dark ages back in the church. It is My church too, not fanatic church! Not all christians agree with it, actually the majority dont!
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what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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The baby is also 1/2 of the woman. Is that 1/2 bad.

The baby does no wrong either way.
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Nope it's not.

It's 2 cells fused together, a sperm and an ovum.

If a lump of cells must be protected and kept alive then circumcision should be forbidden too. There's more living cells in a foreskin than in a weeks-old fetus
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Taking a piece of skin off is not like snuffing out a life. And it is a life at conception.
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Skin is alive doofus. It can even be grown in a culture.

You have to be consistant. If you consider a bunch of cells as "life" or "a child" then it's the case for any bunch of cells.

The only way you could claim a 1-day old fetus is a child is through dogma. Not a single fact can back this up.
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Those cells are making a full human right at conception. That is a fact. The process should not be stopped.
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And when the sperm and egg join that is a human.
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Where is the choice for the baby?
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There is no choice, its a fucking murder plane and simple. Its just that those who benefit or want to do that don't want to be looked down upon, much like homosexuality. The sin they all embrace will be their certain death in the end, no matter what anyone thinks or feels.

But you can walk in and pay your four hundred dollars and kill your baby in the name of what ever ya like, but when you leave, remember they are parting out your child to the highest bidder for thousands, and robbing your child of life for their adrenochrome and thirst to serve!! Which implicates you in their worship of Moloch!skull_fing
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Here it goes! Homosexuality put as equal to abortion. Sins that lead to death!

Enough with fanatic religion, really! I go three times a week on holy mass, and i really hate the fanaticism of dark ages back in the church. It is My church too, not fanatic church! Not all christians agree with it, actually the majority dont!
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Homosexuality is a sin just like abortion which is murder.
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Killing a fetus that would otherwise grow into a healthy human being is murder plain and simple.

If you have done this, pray ask for forgiveness and do what you can to help others not make this mistake.

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I have looked and looked and yet it still eludes me. Does anyone know where the abortion section of the constitution is? I found the part that talks about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the key word there being life.

Listen, I don't care what women do with their bodies. An abortion is not about just their body.

Here's how it works;

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it and they decided on an abortion. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants an abortion and he does not. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants to keep it and he does not. She keeps it, raises it and now he pays child support for the rest of his life (18 years).

Where is the choice for the man? If she goes to a clinic with the man, he has no say and no ability to voice his opinion. Whereas she will be asked if anyone is pressuring her or supporting her.

In cases of rape, incest and the mothers health (long and short term) the ability to receive an abortion should be allowed. In every other situation it comes down to personal responsibility. There are condoms, birth control pills, vasectomies for the older guys, tubes getting tied for the older women or the women who already have like 8 kids.

Abortion removes personal responsibility and it is not a form of birth control.

By banning abortion in most cases no woman has lost the ability to control her body. Simply she (and the man) have been told to act like adults and take responsibility for their actions. She still has control over her body. A few examples;

A man and woman want to have sex, he has no condom and she is not on the pill = no sex.

A man and woman want to have sex, he has a condom and she is not on the pill = they either have sex or she says no.

A man and woman want to have sex, she is on the pill and he has no condom = they either have sex or she says no.

Am I missing the part where the guy gets to decide whether sex occurs or not. Men have no power to decide if sex occurs. That's called rape and it's a crime.

sex is a pro-creative act that has pleasuring benefits. It is not a recreational sport nor is it a weapon. It certainly is not there for men and women to do what they will with no regard for consequences.

I would argue that everyone is pro choice. We ALL have the choice to have unprotected sex. However, we are not all pro consequence or pro personal responsibility. Some argue that you should be allowed to do what you want and if unintended consequences happen then you should simply be allowed to pretend they didn't. Others argue that you should be held accountable for your actions. It's that simple.
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Excellent thinking skills. ( If you are a millennial, you are a very rare bird indeed-- public schools have drummed out thinking skills in that generation).

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Where is the choice for the baby?
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There is no choice, its a fucking murder plane and simple. Its just that those who benefit or want to do that don't want to be looked down upon, much like homosexuality. The sin they all embrace will be their certain death in the end, no matter what anyone thinks or feels.

But you can walk in and pay your four hundred dollars and kill your baby in the name of what ever ya like, but when you leave, remember they are parting out your child to the highest bidder for thousands, and robbing your child of life for their adrenochrome and thirst to serve!! Which implicates you in their worship of Moloch!skull_fing
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Here it goes! Homosexuality put as equal to abortion. Sins that lead to death!

Enough with fanatic religion, really! I go three times a week on holy mass, and i really hate the fanaticism of dark ages back in the church. It is My church too, not fanatic church! Not all christians agree with it, actually the majority dont!
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Don't worry, when it comes down to it, we too are all sinners equally falling short. Calm down Ac I wont be doing the judgement or condemning of anyone for eternity. Only God has that authority. God thinks all sin is abhorrent, and I tend to agree. That is not fanaticism, that's just the truth whether ya like it or not!kimdowtcwysmoking1
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Where is the choice for the baby?
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There is no choice, its a fucking murder plane and simple. Its just that those who benefit or want to do that don't want to be looked down upon, much like homosexuality. The sin they all embrace will be their certain death in the end, no matter what anyone thinks or feels.

But you can walk in and pay your four hundred dollars and kill your baby in the name of what ever ya like, but when you leave, remember they are parting out your child to the highest bidder for thousands, and robbing your child of life for their adrenochrome and thirst to serve!! Which implicates you in their worship of Moloch!skull_fing
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Women should be shown a film of what happens to the child during an abortion before they get to have one. Then they should have to see the parts afterwards if they decide to go through with it. They will see a little head and arms and legs and a torso. Abortionists have to see these parts to make sure they got the whole baby.
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It actually looks like a tadpole, not a human, and like a tadpole it slowly loses it's tail, and slowly grows arms and legs, and when humanlike, abortions won't be carried out unless for a very good reason.

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I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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Ofcourse you didnt hear that.
But its the easiest way for women to whore around getting unprotected sex.
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Its because of 'women' like this:
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You Christian's have no problem with God killing all the children and fetuses through out the bible. But you're right it shouldn't be used as birth control.
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Quote me one verse where God said he did this.
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If a woman has a right to abortion, why doesn’t a man have a right to a “financial abortion”?

Why does a woman have a right to determine a man’s life, but not vice versa?
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lmao

good point
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But are those same men willing to raise that child on their own.
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You - you alone will have the stars as no one else has them...In one of the stars I shall be living. In one of them I shall be laughing. And so it will be as if all the stars were laughing, when you look at the sky at night...You - only you - will have stars that can laugh.
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Before there were legal abortions women had to use wire hangers. Then claim a "miscarriage" and put the blame on God. All the real miscarriages were abortions by God.
We lack the means of trying and bringing Him to justice.

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I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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Well because women don't use abortion as birth control. That's something dreamed up by sexually immature people and pro-lifers as a form of verbal punishment.

And much of this anti-abortion issue is about PUNISHMENT for having sex. And isn't that a negative approach? It certainly isn't proactive to PUNISH people for sex, is it? That sounds like something out of Islam where people are stoned to death, thrown off buildings and beheaded for having "improper" sex.

Alabama would be the perfect target for Islamic infiltration because of the lack of education in that state.
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I pointed out on another thread, that the muzz will love this.
Rape, incest, breed flat out, knowing the poor woman and children can't abort, which also gives the muzz rights to the babies/children,
more rape . . more incest . . . more babies . .

. . or the woman/girls are jailed if they do abort . .

It's a win/win for muz.

It will never end, and they'll laugh at how stupid some people are, for not actually thinking about it.

For that simple reason, I hope the bill gets rejected.

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from what I understand about Islam doesn't a woman get stoned to death for having sex before marriage and also if a family member impregnates a family member isn't the pregnant woman and man both killed?
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I have looked and looked and yet it still eludes me. Does anyone know where the abortion section of the constitution is? I found the part that talks about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the key word there being life.

Listen, I don't care what women do with their bodies. An abortion is not about just their body.

Here's how it works;

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it and they decided on an abortion. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants an abortion and he does not. She has one.

A woman gets pregnant, her and the man talk about it, she wants to keep it and he does not. She keeps it, raises it and now he pays child support for the rest of his life (18 years).

Where is the choice for the man? If she goes to a clinic with the man, he has no say and no ability to voice his opinion. Whereas she will be asked if anyone is pressuring her or supporting her.

In cases of rape, incest and the mothers health (long and short term) the ability to receive an abortion should be allowed. In every other situation it comes down to personal responsibility. There are condoms, birth control pills, vasectomies for the older guys, tubes getting tied for the older women or the women who already have like 8 kids.

Abortion removes personal responsibility and it is not a form of birth control.

By banning abortion in most cases no woman has lost the ability to control her body. Simply she (and the man) have been told to act like adults and take responsibility for their actions. She still has control over her body. A few examples;

A man and woman want to have sex, he has no condom and she is not on the pill = no sex.

A man and woman want to have sex, he has a condom and she is not on the pill = they either have sex or she says no.

A man and woman want to have sex, she is on the pill and he has no condom = they either have sex or she says no.

Am I missing the part where the guy gets to decide whether sex occurs or not. Men have no power to decide if sex occurs. That's called rape and it's a crime.

sex is a pro-creative act that has pleasuring benefits. It is not a recreational sport nor is it a weapon. It certainly is not there for men and women to do what they will with no regard for consequences.

I would argue that everyone is pro choice. We ALL have the choice to have unprotected sex. However, we are not all pro consequence or pro personal responsibility. Some argue that you should be allowed to do what you want and if unintended consequences happen then you should simply be allowed to pretend they didn't. Others argue that you should be held accountable for your actions. It's that simple.
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You just posted the most sane points ever... I agree 100%

Well done... yep and Amen.
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I love how all the guys in the thread completely ignores what a mother has to go through during a pregnancy. Says a lot about how they view women, less than people. Like that Republican guy who said women are "host bodies".


"You don't want a child? OK then carry it and suffer for months, risk losing your job, then give the child away. EASY !!!"

"What you are still complaining? Sorry you don't have anything to say in this, the baby is the only things that matters."


Pure hypocrisy and veiled misogyny
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


I have three children and caught my first child when it was delivered. I was the first human being to touch my son outside of the womb.

I watched every labor and the struggle, I gained more respect for my wife because of pregnancy than any other act could have done. Life is a battle, always has been, bodies change, you grow old, you get beat up, men get hurt at work, women may get hurt in pregnancy, nothing stops that, always will be there, but I would take the love of my children and the struggle any day over watching my child get dismembered and sucked from the womb.

You are a preening piece of shit.
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You are using a straw man if you think I support aborting children which are wanted by their parents.


But if a women tells you she doesn't want to have the child (for whatever reason, really); how is it your decision or the state to tell her; fuck you ma'm, you'll keep the child that's what you will do.

And fuck the Republican who claimed women are nothing but "host bodies"
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Noone in any history has told a woman she has to keep the baby, there are options for the mother.
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I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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i have personally seen this on more than one occasion. not with any woman i had anything to do with, but through acquaintances.
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There have been threads here of women bragging about aborting their babies & saying that was their birth control.
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And we're to believe the veracity of these women, as much as we do in the stock of YOUR tavi.

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what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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Your type always go to the extremes. What is the percentage of raped victims getting pregnant.
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Less than 1/10th of 1 percent of abortions are rape, incest or life of the mother in danger.

99.9% are murder.
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I've never heard of any woman using abortion as a form of birth control.

No one would choose surgery, rather than taking the pill or using other birth control methods.

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i have personally seen this on more than one occasion. not with any woman i had anything to do with, but through acquaintances.
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There have been threads here of women bragging about aborting their babies & saying that was their birth control.
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And we're to believe the veracity of these women, as much as we do in the stock of YOUR tavi.

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"women"
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I love how all the guys in the thread completely ignores what a mother has to go through during a pregnancy. Says a lot about how they view women, less than people. Like that Republican guy who said women are "host bodies".


"You don't want a child? OK then carry it and suffer for months, risk losing your job, then give the child away. EASY !!!"

"What you are still complaining? Sorry you don't have anything to say in this, the baby is the only things that matters."


Pure hypocrisy and veiled misogyny
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1051099


I have three children and caught my first child when it was delivered. I was the first human being to touch my son outside of the womb.

I watched every labor and the struggle, I gained more respect for my wife because of pregnancy than any other act could have done. Life is a battle, always has been, bodies change, you grow old, you get beat up, men get hurt at work, women may get hurt in pregnancy, nothing stops that, always will be there, but I would take the love of my children and the struggle any day over watching my child get dismembered and sucked from the womb.

You are a preening piece of shit.
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You are using a straw man if you think I support aborting children which are wanted by their parents.


But if a women tells you she doesn't want to have the child (for whatever reason, really); how is it your decision or the state to tell her; fuck you ma'm, you'll keep the child that's what you will do.

And fuck the Republican who claimed women are nothing but "host bodies"
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Noone in any history has told a woman she has to keep the baby, there are options for the murder.
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what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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Your type always go to the extremes. What is the percentage of raped victims getting pregnant.
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Less than 1/10th of 1 percent of abortions are rape, incest or life of the mother in danger.

99.9% are murder.
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And if you are that woman?

One should judge a society on how it handles the "exception" conditions. We are devolving into an idiocratic 1984.
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I am opposed to legal abortion in any and all cases, nobody should be able to kill another human life
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what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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Woman who have become pregnant through rape, generally call it a 'thing', along the lines of 'an evil thing', 'a black horrible thing' (not as in skin colour) etc 'that's inside me' 'that's in my body'.
Somewhat like an evil alien inside them, like the movies.

It then goes to crying, distraught, begging, 'get this thing out of me' ,'please get it out'.

Some will take pills, drink lots of alcohol, all sorts of ways to try to 'get rid of it', 'get this evil thing out of me', and some suicide attempts.

To not allow them to abort, and carry for 9 months, and give birth, is truly the most heartless act a human could force onto a woman or girl.



I would liken it to a man getting a used condom, have a fat ugly gay rape him and cum into the condom, stick that condom up his arse, leave it there for 9 months, see how that feels, every minute of the day and night, it's there inside you.

Then go through at least 10 hours of extreme pain, pull it out, hold it lovingly in your arms, look at it's face (the fat ugly gay) and love that face for the rest of your life.

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what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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Your type always go to the extremes. What is the percentage of raped victims getting pregnant.
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They have a Pill for that It's called the Morning After Pill(RU48)

If a woman is raped She reports IT and is given the RU48 Pill she takes it and No Pregnancy.

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Re: Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.
what bothers me most is in the case of rape.
imagine, being attacked and sexually assaulted, and then having the offspring of that attacker inside of you.

abortion should never be used as a form of birth control, but, forcing a raped woman to keep a baby is even more horrible.

just my 2 cents
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Your type always go to the extremes. What is the percentage of raped victims getting pregnant.
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Less than 1/10th of 1 percent of abortions are rape, incest or life of the mother in danger.

99.9% are murder.
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And if you are that woman?

One should judge a society on how it handles the "exception" conditions. We are devolving into an idiocratic 1984.
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I agree that abortion should be legal under those exceptional circumstances. Would you agree that the overwhelming majority of abortion that does not fall into those categories should be made illegal?

Being against abortion is not a symptom of a 1984-esque society. It's easy to make the mistake in believing that the pro-abortion crowd are on the side of freedom, but they are not. A murderer is not free to murder you without consequence, because that infringes on your rights. An abortionist should not be free to frivolously murder a baby either.
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Re: Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.
Deuteronomy 22:23-29 New International Version (NIV)
23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
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Re: Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.
Where is the choice for the baby?
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I don't get the question. Either the adults take responsibility for their actions or they don't have sex. Are you implying that it's not the babies choice to be born into the world? If you are then that's insane. None of us decided that. That's how life, procreation and nature works. You are born into the world, live, grow and die. It's called life.
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No contaceptive is 100% effective, even on the pill 1 in a 100 fall pregnant, do the maths on that alone, then up those figures for other forms of contaceptives, which are less effective.

That alone, is thousands, of obviously unwanted pregnancies.
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The conversation certainly needs to be had with regard to those circumstances but the vast majority of abortions are not performed because of failed birth control. Those cases are a very small percentage of unwanted pregnancies.
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I think, and I'm sad to say it, but I think people are too stupid to use birth control, or to use it PROPERLY, and because they have the fall-back position of abortion, they figure they can't loose.

I have used many forms including ones with supposed "high failure rates" (such as withdrawl and fertility awareness) and I've always been EXTREMELY FERTILE and I've never had a woops.

That is because I used every form as a perfectionist and was never in denial about it. I always fell on the side of "safer". Because I knew I wouldn't ever have an abortion.
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Re: Abortion is not a right and it is not a form of birth control, sorry.
My feeling on the subject is allow early term abortion because it is the common ground so that we can go on with government doing important things like MAGA.

These arguments about going one extreme or another are just time-wasting circus.