Pat is a smarmy deceiver. Liked the guy.

The incest one is still justifying murder of an innocent, some of the babies are normal and some are just so severely damaged, sad. Rape is bad too but if a child is conceived it is victim number two if aborted. The baby had no choice about it. Why make the baby pay for the sins of the father?

I can't help think of the videos I've seen of the baby inside pulling away from the instruments as the procedure goes on. I do know, even if it is a messed up baby, it is still living and it is still murder to abort it. How can a woman allow her baby to be torn apart like that? Shit, its so awful.

Two wrongs never make a right.

And by the way, the idea that gay people living together doesn't hurt anyone is stupid. Of course it hurts us. It's the creeping progression of sin. First you allow this, then that, then the other thing and then you are in the cesspool where society is today--on the verge of allowing pedophilia. What's next, mandatory euthanasia instead of retirement at age 65??

You judge a society by how it treats its weakest members. We're failing miserably.