SAT to Give Students ‘Adversity Score’ to Capture Social and Economic Background | |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How in the world do you (a) create a formula to determine how much “adversity” a 17-year-old has faced, (b) using only school-level and neighborhood-level data, not personal data, and then (c) hide the formula’s results from the kid? [link to twitter.com (secure)] ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find this troubling on so many levels. We are moving farther and farther away from objective merit. The SAT is basically giving students “demerit points” for coming from stable homes & safe neighborhoods. [link to twitter.com (secure)] ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Basically the SAT is probably gonna penalize you if you’re: Male White/Asian Straight Rich Christian And reward you if you’re Trans Gay Female/Non-binary Poor Minority Atheist/Muslim But you’re never gonna know be they won’t tell how they calculate their “adversity score.” [link to twitter.com (secure)] ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69098086 United States 05/16/2019 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The College Board plans to assign an adversity score to every student who takes the SAT to try to capture their social and economic background, jumping into the debate raging over race and class in college admissions. Quoting: ~kpm~ This new number, called an adversity score by college admissions officers, is calculated using 15 factors including the crime rate and poverty levels from the student’s high school and neighborhood. Students won’t be told the scores, but colleges will see the numbers when reviewing their applications. An adversity score of 50 is average. Anything above it designates hardship, below it privilege. The College Board declined to say how it calculates the adversity score or weighs the factors that go into it. The data that informs the score comes from public records such as the U.S. Census as well as some sources proprietary to the College Board, Mr. Coleman said. “If I am going to make room for more of the [poor and minority] students we want to admit and I have a finite number of spaces, then someone has to suffer and that will be privileged kids on the bubble,” he said. Just throw out the SAT's they are basically doing it anyway [link to www.wsj.com (secure)] |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something tells me the purpose of this will be to combat the so called white privilege. Quoting: Peepaws All of this is going to get much worse. Asians will get screwed the worst Then white males Merit get thrown out the window Not to mention this can be gamed to the max, won’t all people claim they live in the ghetto, are gay, trans, etc., just to get a higher adversity score? One step closer to the chinese social credit score ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the pin! ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Where Eagles Dare Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States 05/16/2019 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap like this has an already long and storied history. In the Army promotion game, we were told that "we don't have quotas; we have diversity goals." Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
Off Switch User ID: 77554563 United States 05/16/2019 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liberals have brought stupid to new levels unheard of with every hair-brained scheme. How stupid can stupid get? Last Edited by Off Switch on 05/16/2019 10:17 AM Bad or missing keyboard. Press F1 to continue.... |
Revbo™ User ID: 77397371 United States 05/16/2019 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap like this has an already long and storied history. In the Army promotion game, we were told that "we don't have quotas; we have diversity goals." Quoting: Where Eagles Dare A buddy of mine enlisted, and resigned, during the Obama years because, "You don't get promoted unless you're some kind of weirdo." By the time he left the ANG, his base commander was a black lesbian, and everyone on base knew it was a joke. There were dozens of people more qualified than she to run the operation. Last Edited by Revbo™ on 05/16/2019 10:21 AM John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liberals have brought stupid to new levels unheard of with every hair-brained scheme. How stupid can stupid get? It’s been going on for years, now they just made it official The first year drop out rate will sky rocket when these kids can’t make the grade ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77622026 Canada 05/16/2019 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Affirmative Action Hurts Minorities [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77057088 United States 05/16/2019 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The College Board plans to assign an adversity score to every student who takes the SAT to try to capture their social and economic background, jumping into the debate raging over race and class in college admissions. Quoting: ~kpm~ This new number, called an adversity score by college admissions officers, is calculated using 15 factors including the crime rate and poverty levels from the student’s high school and neighborhood. Students won’t be told the scores, but colleges will see the numbers when reviewing their applications. An adversity score of 50 is average. Anything above it designates hardship, below it privilege. The College Board declined to say how it calculates the adversity score or weighs the factors that go into it. The data that informs the score comes from public records such as the U.S. Census as well as some sources proprietary to the College Board, Mr. Coleman said. “If I am going to make room for more of the [poor and minority] students we want to admit and I have a finite number of spaces, then someone has to suffer and that will be privileged kids on the bubble,” he said. [link to www.wsj.com (secure)] "adversity score " = Preferences/Quotas, already deemed unconstitutional by the courts. |
Revbo™ User ID: 77397371 United States 05/16/2019 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes adversity can negatively impact grades and learning but that doesn't mean the student should be admitted over someone with better grades who happened to have the good fortune of living in affluent circumstances. The poor person with the poorer grades will most likely be far behind their peers academically and the poor person will struggle to keep up with their more privileged peers at elite schools. Yes it is unfair but so is putting students who are not academically prepared into elite schools where standards are higher. What ends up happening is the poor person drops out because it will take years to catch up academically and university is not the place for students reading at grade 8 level no matter if they are poor and black. Quoting: 2hot2handle Affirmative Action Hurts Minorities [link to youtu.be (secure)] Tom Sowell used to rail on that issue. It makes no sense to put some kid who would do just fine at UC-Santa Cruz in at Stanford as an affirmative action student, just to ease Stanford's admissions board's troubled soul. You're setting that kid up to fail and it's not fair to him or the the kid who should have gotten in to Stanford in his place. This is why they create Minorty/Gender Studies programs, to make it easier to bury what would otherwise be total failure of the affirmative action system. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
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~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IKR? ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77622026 Canada 05/16/2019 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes adversity can negatively impact grades and learning but that doesn't mean the student should be admitted over someone with better grades who happened to have the good fortune of living in affluent circumstances. The poor person with the poorer grades will most likely be far behind their peers academically and the poor person will struggle to keep up with their more privileged peers at elite schools. Yes it is unfair but so is putting students who are not academically prepared into elite schools where standards are higher. What ends up happening is the poor person drops out because it will take years to catch up academically and university is not the place for students reading at grade 8 level no matter if they are poor and black. Quoting: 2hot2handle Affirmative Action Hurts Minorities [link to youtu.be (secure)] Tom Sowell used to rail on that issue. It makes no sense to put some kid who would do just fine at UC-Santa Cruz in at Stanford as an affirmative action student, just to ease Stanford's admissions board's troubled soul. You're setting that kid up to fail and it's not fair to him or the the kid who should have gotten in to Stanford in his place. This is why they create Minorty/Gender Studies programs, to make it easier to bury what would otherwise be total failure of the affirmative action system. Very true and hopefully Trump puts a stop to this nonsense for everyone's sake. |
Lou Czar User ID: 77585373 United States 05/16/2019 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm shocked the commies still insist on using SATs and ACTs, they're mentally unhealthy for the snowflakes. What if they don't score well? Why not just let everyone go to post secondary where ever they feel like they should go regardless of grades and without test scores? I am a meat popsicle. And the Devil's Uncle. *Mostly* Harmless. |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm shocked the commies still insist on using SATs and ACTs, they're mentally unhealthy for the snowflakes. What if they don't score well? Why not just let everyone go to post secondary where ever they feel like they should go regardless of grades and without test scores? Quoting: Lou Czar This will be the next step..... Like the Chinese social credit scoring which we are inching towards They are breaking the concept in for the sheep who think merit based is racist SATS and ACTS have no bearing now on admittance, all that matters is your adversity score . Last Edited by ~kpm~ on 05/16/2019 10:49 AM ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29908935 Canada 05/16/2019 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Crap like this has an already long and storied history. In the Army promotion game, we were told that "we don't have quotas; we have diversity goals." Quoting: Where Eagles Dare A buddy of mine enlisted, and resigned, during the Obama years because, "You don't get promoted unless you're some kind of weirdo." By the time he left the ANG, his base commander was a black lesbian, and everyone on base knew it was a joke. There were dozens of people more qualified than she to run the operation. Meanwhile in Russia and China the most qualified gets the job. Which kind wins wars? In the British Empire and all throughout the History of Western Civilization there tons of gay rulers and generals who climbed the ranks through merit. You guys being destroyed from within. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809166 United States 05/16/2019 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How in the world do you Quoting: ~kpm~ (a) create a formula to determine how much “adversity” a 17-year-old has faced, (b) using only school-level and neighborhood-level data, not personal data, and then (c) hide the formula’s results from the kid? [link to twitter.com (secure)] Obviously a whole industry is going to bloom that will help kids get a more favorable "adversity" score. |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you: Asian White Male Middle income-wealthy Over achiever High GPA Didn’t eat school provided meals Live in a nice area Then you are: ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
~kpm~ (OP) User ID: 75950402 United States 05/16/2019 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How in the world do you Quoting: ~kpm~ (a) create a formula to determine how much “adversity” a 17-year-old has faced, (b) using only school-level and neighborhood-level data, not personal data, and then (c) hide the formula’s results from the kid? [link to twitter.com (secure)] Obviously a whole industry is going to bloom that will help kids get a more favorable "adversity" score. Yep ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Éireann User ID: 73050092 Ireland 05/16/2019 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I went to High School with kids who came from disadvantaged homes and some of them were super bright and went on to get really great scholarships based on scholastic merit and ACT/SAT scores. Their merit wasn't based on their disadvantage, it was based on their ability to overcome adversity and still succeed. Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |