Men are afraid to mentor women after #MeToo and it hurts us all: study

This fucking bitch can not possibly understand men in Hr-regulated workplaces. Sorry, no hand shakes, no hugs, no dinners, no travel, nothing. Definitely not in the same room as you alone.

Risk:
-loss of employment
-lawsuit
-Revocation of benefits from former employment
-Possible criminal action
-Record and jail time as a result of jail time
-Loss of home, and everything else
-etc.

All because of a woman "felt" like she was harassed. Of course the court will side with her in a gynocentric world. That's why I always treat women like shit, and fuck & pump them, then ghost them worse than last months's rotting dinner leftovers.

When you don't put yourself in our shoes, we say, 'It's no big deal.' When we don't put ourselves in your shoes, we never hear the fucking end of it.

What?
Who are you talking to? You don't know me.

Are you suggesting that women should be empathetic. But you don't want to express empathy?

Where is empathy learned? Positive coping skills?

"Women of color" Everybody is a person of color, there are no monochrome people.
If white people aren't people of color than neither are black people.

What gives you the right to be abusive? To me or any other woman? Because you have to behave and be professional?

Basic etiquette says that if a woman extends a handshake you accept. And that's right, you should never be in the same room alone with a woman unless you are married to her.

Toxic masculinity is very basic too:
Treating women like sex objects
Lad Culture, Locker Room Talk
Resorting to violence to settle differences
Using “boys will be boys” to excuse bad behavior.
Feeling like it’s not ok to talk about emotions
Homophobia and fragility when males don’t display “typically masculine” traits (dancing, wearing make up)
Domestic Violence

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"“We’re in a bad place — no one’s ever gotten promoted without a one-on-one meeting, I feel confident in saying that,” Sandberg tells “CBS This Morning” host Gayle King Friday. “Senior men right now are nine times more hesitant to travel with a woman and six times more likely to hesitate to have a work dinner.”

Women — and especially women of color — don’t get the same amount of mentoring as men, “which means we’re not getting an equal seat at the table,” Sandberg says. “It’s not enough to not harass us, you need to not ignore us, either.”"

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"“We’re in a bad place — no one’s ever gotten promoted without a one-on-one meeting, I feel confident in saying that,” Sandberg tells “CBS This Morning” host Gayle King Friday. “Senior men right now are nine times more hesitant to travel with a woman and six times more likely to hesitate to have a work dinner.”

Women — and especially women of color — don’t get the same amount of mentoring as men, “which means we’re not getting an equal seat at the table,” Sandberg says. “It’s not enough to not harass us, you need to not ignore us, either.”"

And not all men are sexual harassing rapists. But that's how we get treated in the workplace.

This has been going on for decades, I remember when I was in USMC boot camp, my senior DI told all of us "don't talk to or deal with WM's (Women Marines) except for official business. Avoid them out of work, and no more than pleasantries while at work, because they can ruin your career for any or no reason at all."

What man wants to put his career in jeopardy because a comment of "that's a nice dress" or "do you need help with that?" gets defined as "harassment"?

It’s better in rich progressive blue states. Creepy guy at a bar? Bartender sends HIM to another bar. Creepy guy at work? His female coworkers clue him in that he needs to restrain himself and if he can’t, Human Resources deals with him. Maybe HE needs to find a new job.

Some guy makes a lewd comment about how you’ve got nice boobs and others in the vicinity will address that with him immediately, make sure he’s OK and knows he can’t go talking about boobs and make sure you aren’t too rattled by it.

It’s really amazing how some parts of the US can be so normal and pleasant while others are so deplorable and dysfunctional.


Some folks DO have it both ways—women are equal people AND no one sexually harasses or molests anyone.

I didn’t even know the full extent of the misery in the Ohio River Valley until I got out of it for decades and came back. Some folks lack behind. They suffer for it too.

It would be hilarious if it was not so sad to watch..woman past their prime threatening to not have sex with men.

awwww poor men... they have it so rough.

Oh, no. Women all went out of their way to ignore me when they thought I was little preacher boy virgin in theology school.

Stuck their uppity noses up at me, ignored me, shunned me, and treated me like the tosspot of the world.

Consider the favor returned.

You can't get blood from a turnip, you blood sucking vampires.

In my 60 years I haven't gone one day without a man harassing me. Maybe you guys can work on that, like find the guys who do this to women and tell them to stop.

Don't claim to be a victim of women because they speak out. Instead be open to improvement and communication. Give it a try.

Or beat up women, I don't care. whatever.

You sound like those old grumpy man hating feminists. What harassment are you experiencing? a man check you out for more than 5 Seconds.

He probably rode an elevator with her.

More like he slammed the door too loud as he ran out of the room to get away from her.

One place I worked, a new female hire in another department, but same building, was in the kitchen one day while I was making my lunch, filling up her water bottle from the tap-connected water cooler with a filter.

I introduced myself and said "Hey, just so you know, nobody uses that cooler and the filter hasn't been changed in years. I wouldn't drink it, you might get botulism or something. Get bottled water out of the drink machine."

She turns around and complains to her boss an HR that I "man-splained" to her and the she felt uncomfortable and harassed. Needless to say, I had to continue working with this person for several more years until she got nixed in a merger.

I don't know why women in English speaking first world countries think men are supposed to like their "sassy" demeanor and enjoy being put down all the time.

PENCE RULE! Wise man. Each man is responsible for instructing only his wife and daughters and not other random women.

I don't know any guys like that.
And even if I did, it's not my place to be their effin Daddy.

Every adult human is responsible for his/her own actions,
nothing more, nothing less, at least in peacetime.

The only controllable parameter in the idiot drama is one's
own sheit and the keeping together of it.

Assholes come in both female and male form alike; you cannot
legislate or campaign assholishness away.

No political solutions to spiritual plobrems :D

These are basic, non-negotiable facts of human existence.



(With all respect:
If I had been harassed every day for 60 years, chances are
I might consider maybe investing more effort in observation
of self..?)

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Look at this post.


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And then you wonder why there's guys who think this way?

So, you take is a step further then. If you disagree with a man's approach in a bar, you feel that it is appropriate for that person to be removed from the bar, just because you said so?

Its interesting that this gets labeled "creepy" and "dysfunctional" because if the same person who approached you was a hot, dare I say it, "Chad" - you would have no problem with his approach, even if what transpired was EXACTLY the same.

Going out in public, and particularly a bar, is not a guarantee that nobody will try to hit on you. If men never tried hitting on women, the human race itself would die out because there would never be any children to replace those who died.

I'm not against controlling these things in places where they are wholly inappropriate but I have also found that in this day and age some women seem to have extremely low standards about what exactly "inappropriate" is.

Well, yeah, you kinda did mansplain.
A better approach, and it's all in adaptable language of feminine and masculine... would be to say: "we should probably ask Barbara to change that water filter so you get the best product from that cooler". That way you are looking out for her best interest and not busting her on stealing water or insinuating she is stupid for her choice.

Men are natural "fixers" and they want to invade everyone's life to fix shit. Looking at that from my perspective is that I want to live in my fucked up world and I'll ask you to fix shit when I trust you. There are steps to a relationship.

pedagogy, understaning the perspective of others.

awwww poor men... they have it so rough.