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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77629659 United States 05/17/2019 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My take on this: Too many “me too” women are trans and lying about their abuse. This has been a sly conspiracy on their partto further separate/alienate men and women! Men and women both need to become aware of the intense, unnatural deception going on and how these imposters are destroying the natural order of things. Trust between the sexes is being destroyed by jealous jezebel spirits. |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/17/2019 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This fucking bitch can not possibly understand men in Hr-regulated workplaces. Sorry, no hand shakes, no hugs, no dinners, no travel, nothing. Definitely not in the same room as you alone. Risk: -loss of employment -lawsuit -Revocation of benefits from former employment -Possible criminal action -Record and jail time as a result of jail time -Loss of home, and everything else -etc. All because of a woman "felt" like she was harassed. Of course the court will side with her in a gynocentric world. That's why I always treat women like shit, and fuck & pump them, then ghost them worse than last months's rotting dinner leftovers. What gives you the right to be abusive? To me or any other woman? Because you have to behave and be professional? Basic etiquette says that if a woman extends a handshake you accept. And that's right, you should never be in the same room alone with a woman unless you are married to her. Toxic masculinity is very basic too: Treating women like sex objects Lad Culture, Locker Room Talk Resorting to violence to settle differences Using “boys will be boys” to excuse bad behavior. Feeling like it’s not ok to talk about emotions Homophobia and fragility when males don’t display “typically masculine” traits (dancing, wearing make up) Domestic Violence |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/17/2019 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you don't put yourself in our shoes, we say, 'It's no big deal.' When we don't put ourselves in your shoes, we never hear the fucking end of it. What? Who are you talking to? You don't know me. Are you suggesting that women should be empathetic. But you don't want to express empathy? Where is empathy learned? Positive coping skills? |
GodFrequency User ID: 67193667 United States 05/17/2019 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you don't put yourself in our shoes, we say, 'It's no big deal.' When we don't put ourselves in your shoes, we never hear the fucking end of it. What? Who are you talking to? You don't know me. Are you suggesting that women should be empathetic. But you don't want to express empathy? Where is empathy learned? Positive coping skills? The great hydron colider seeks to split the atom and find God God in the garden of edan split adam and created male and female The atom they want to split contains both a negative and a positive charge Adam once split contained both male and female. When we are born from our mother. We are all the product of male and female coming together to create life. So we are a part of both the mother (female) and father (male) the fact that both flames reside within us as well. Last Edited by GodFrequency on 05/17/2019 10:22 PM |
GodFrequency User ID: 67193667 United States 05/17/2019 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Both male and female have estrogen and testosterone. The male produces more testosterone that estrogen for the first three quarters of his life, then produces more estrogen than testosterone as he ages. The female produces more estrogen during the first three quarters of her life, then goes through menopause and creates more testosterone that estrogen. |
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The Gullible Skeptic User ID: 76497926 United States 05/17/2019 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Women of color" Everybody is a person of color, there are no monochrome people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76450582 If white people aren't people of color than neither are black people. Caucasians have a wider variety of come anyway. Red, blonde,green, blue, brown lite skin to tanned skin. So yes I hate that expression as well. Makes no sense. INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
GodFrequency User ID: 67193667 United States 05/17/2019 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This fucking bitch can not possibly understand men in Hr-regulated workplaces. Sorry, no hand shakes, no hugs, no dinners, no travel, nothing. Definitely not in the same room as you alone. Risk: -loss of employment -lawsuit -Revocation of benefits from former employment -Possible criminal action -Record and jail time as a result of jail time -Loss of home, and everything else -etc. All because of a woman "felt" like she was harassed. Of course the court will side with her in a gynocentric world. That's why I always treat women like shit, and fuck & pump them, then ghost them worse than last months's rotting dinner leftovers. What gives you the right to be abusive? To me or any other woman? Because you have to behave and be professional? Basic etiquette says that if a woman extends a handshake you accept. And that's right, you should never be in the same room alone with a woman unless you are married to her. Toxic masculinity is very basic too: Treating women like sex objects Lad Culture, Locker Room Talk Resorting to violence to settle differences Using “boys will be boys” to excuse bad behavior. Feeling like it’s not ok to talk about emotions Homophobia and fragility when males don’t display “typically masculine” traits (dancing, wearing make up) Domestic Violence The world is shifting and it is coming into more of a feminine energy. Masculinity is very fragile and many won't be able to adapt to the new world we find ourselves in. Just as the north pole has been on top for our entire modern known existence and the south magnetic pole on bottom. There is now a struggle between the two. I feel we will all find ourselves living in a different world very soon and I doubt it is what most people expected it to be. Remember, masculinity is very fragile, it's strength and inability to adapt or bend and change to a changing world is also its weakness. But also do not cut out that within u that is masculine also. It will throw you out of balance if both masculine and feminine made u then both reside within u. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77403617 United States 05/17/2019 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to nypost.com (secure)] Quoting: javierruizleon "“We’re in a bad place — no one’s ever gotten promoted without a one-on-one meeting, I feel confident in saying that,” Sandberg tells “CBS This Morning” host Gayle King Friday. “Senior men right now are nine times more hesitant to travel with a woman and six times more likely to hesitate to have a work dinner.” Women — and especially women of color — don’t get the same amount of mentoring as men, “which means we’re not getting an equal seat at the table,” Sandberg says. “It’s not enough to not harass us, you need to not ignore us, either.”" I love MEN...They make the world go rounnd!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States 05/17/2019 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to nypost.com (secure)] Quoting: javierruizleon "“We’re in a bad place — no one’s ever gotten promoted without a one-on-one meeting, I feel confident in saying that,” Sandberg tells “CBS This Morning” host Gayle King Friday. “Senior men right now are nine times more hesitant to travel with a woman and six times more likely to hesitate to have a work dinner.” Women — and especially women of color — don’t get the same amount of mentoring as men, “which means we’re not getting an equal seat at the table,” Sandberg says. “It’s not enough to not harass us, you need to not ignore us, either.”" Well, when you spend a few decades accusing every man of harassing you, even for the most minor of infractions, this is what you get. If you're a man, and you tap a woman on her shoulder, and she feels uncomfortable, that's sexual harassment. That's how ridiculous this has gotten. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States 05/17/2019 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, no. Women all went out of their way to ignore me when they thought I was little preacher boy virgin in theology school. Quoting: anastasis888 Stuck their uppity noses up at me, ignored me, shunned me, and treated me like the tosspot of the world. Consider the favor returned. You can't get blood from a turnip, you blood sucking vampires. Don’t return evil for evil. And not all women are bad. This has been going on for decades, I remember when I was in USMC boot camp, my senior DI told all of us "don't talk to or deal with WM's (Women Marines) except for official business. Avoid them out of work, and no more than pleasantries while at work, because they can ruin your career for any or no reason at all." What man wants to put his career in jeopardy because a comment of "that's a nice dress" or "do you need help with that?" gets defined as "harassment"? One place I worked, a new female hire in another department, but same building, was in the kitchen one day while I was making my lunch, filling up her water bottle from the tap-connected water cooler with a filter. I introduced myself and said "Hey, just so you know, nobody uses that cooler and the filter hasn't been changed in years. I wouldn't drink it, you might get botulism or something. Get bottled water out of the drink machine." She turns around and complains to her boss an HR that I "man-splained" to her and the she felt uncomfortable and harassed. Needless to say, I had to continue working with this person for several more years until she got nixed in a merger. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28925333 United States 05/17/2019 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh those poor feminists.... I've been with jerk men. I've known men who treated my women friends like crap. Guess what? I raised my standards. I stopped talking to them. I walked the hell away, out of the room. Creepy drunk guy at the bar? Either go to the other side or go to a different bar. Creepy guy at work? Find a different job. I'm not minimizing women who are really victims of rape or something...But if some guy makes a lewd comment about how you have nice boobs, walk tf away. I'm sick of women complaining about equality and then bitching that they aren't treated like women. GTFO yourselves. You can't have it both ways. Men and women are different. Period. Quoting: Just Some Chick It’s better in rich progressive blue states. Creepy guy at a bar? Bartender sends HIM to another bar. Creepy guy at work? His female coworkers clue him in that he needs to restrain himself and if he can’t, Human Resources deals with him. Maybe HE needs to find a new job. Some guy makes a lewd comment about how you’ve got nice boobs and others in the vicinity will address that with him immediately, make sure he’s OK and knows he can’t go talking about boobs and make sure you aren’t too rattled by it. It’s really amazing how some parts of the US can be so normal and pleasant while others are so deplorable and dysfunctional. Some folks DO have it both ways—women are equal people AND no one sexually harasses or molests anyone. I didn’t even know the full extent of the misery in the Ohio River Valley until I got out of it for decades and came back. Some folks lack behind. They suffer for it too. So, you take is a step further then. If you disagree with a man's approach in a bar, you feel that it is appropriate for that person to be removed from the bar, just because you said so? Its interesting that this gets labeled "creepy" and "dysfunctional" because if the same person who approached you was a hot, dare I say it, "Chad" - you would have no problem with his approach, even if what transpired was EXACTLY the same. Going out in public, and particularly a bar, is not a guarantee that nobody will try to hit on you. If men never tried hitting on women, the human race itself would die out because there would never be any children to replace those who died. I'm not against controlling these things in places where they are wholly inappropriate but I have also found that in this day and age some women seem to have extremely low standards about what exactly "inappropriate" is. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75716984 United States 05/18/2019 05:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^ Look at this post. Oh, no. Women all went out of their way to ignore me when they thought I was little preacher boy virgin in theology school. Quoting: anastasis888 Stuck their uppity noses up at me, ignored me, shunned me, and treated me like the tosspot of the world. Consider the favor returned. You can't get blood from a turnip, you blood sucking vampires. ^ And then you wonder why there's guys who think this way? |
Accidental Stoner User ID: 77022301 Finland 05/18/2019 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my 60 years I haven't gone one day without a man harassing me. Maybe you guys can work on that, like find the guys who do this to women and tell them to stop. Quoting: MissCleo Don't claim to be a victim of women because they speak out. Instead be open to improvement and communication. Give it a try. Or beat up women, I don't care. whatever. I don't know any guys like that. And even if I did, it's not my place to be their effin Daddy. Every adult human is responsible for his/her own actions, nothing more, nothing less, at least in peacetime. The only controllable parameter in the idiot drama is one's own sheit and the keeping together of it. Assholes come in both female and male form alike; you cannot legislate or campaign assholishness away. No political solutions to spiritual plobrems :D These are basic, non-negotiable facts of human existence. (With all respect: If I had been harassed every day for 60 years, chances are I might consider maybe investing more effort in observation of self..?) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75716984 United States 05/18/2019 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my 60 years I haven't gone one day without a man harassing me. Maybe you guys can work on that, like find the guys who do this to women and tell them to stop. Quoting: MissCleo Don't claim to be a victim of women because they speak out. Instead be open to improvement and communication. Give it a try. Or beat up women, I don't care. whatever. You sound like those old grumpy man hating feminists. What harassment are you experiencing? a man check you out for more than 5 Seconds. He probably rode an elevator with her. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77658632 Australia 05/18/2019 06:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my 60 years I haven't gone one day without a man harassing me. Maybe you guys can work on that, like find the guys who do this to women and tell them to stop. Quoting: MissCleo Don't claim to be a victim of women because they speak out. Instead be open to improvement and communication. Give it a try. Or beat up women, I don't care. whatever. You sound like those old grumpy man hating feminists. What harassment are you experiencing? a man check you out for more than 5 Seconds. He probably rode an elevator with her. More like he slammed the door too loud as he ran out of the room to get away from her. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75716984 United States 05/18/2019 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my 60 years I haven't gone one day without a man harassing me. Maybe you guys can work on that, like find the guys who do this to women and tell them to stop. Quoting: MissCleo Don't claim to be a victim of women because they speak out. Instead be open to improvement and communication. Give it a try. Or beat up women, I don't care. whatever. You sound like those old grumpy man hating feminists. What harassment are you experiencing? a man check you out for more than 5 Seconds. He probably rode an elevator with her. More like he slammed the door too loud as he ran out of the room to get away from her. I don't know why women in English speaking first world countries think men are supposed to like their "sassy" demeanor and enjoy being put down all the time. |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/18/2019 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, no. Women all went out of their way to ignore me when they thought I was little preacher boy virgin in theology school. Quoting: anastasis888 Stuck their uppity noses up at me, ignored me, shunned me, and treated me like the tosspot of the world. Consider the favor returned. You can't get blood from a turnip, you blood sucking vampires. Don’t return evil for evil. And not all women are bad. This has been going on for decades, I remember when I was in USMC boot camp, my senior DI told all of us "don't talk to or deal with WM's (Women Marines) except for official business. Avoid them out of work, and no more than pleasantries while at work, because they can ruin your career for any or no reason at all." What man wants to put his career in jeopardy because a comment of "that's a nice dress" or "do you need help with that?" gets defined as "harassment"? One place I worked, a new female hire in another department, but same building, was in the kitchen one day while I was making my lunch, filling up her water bottle from the tap-connected water cooler with a filter. I introduced myself and said "Hey, just so you know, nobody uses that cooler and the filter hasn't been changed in years. I wouldn't drink it, you might get botulism or something. Get bottled water out of the drink machine." She turns around and complains to her boss an HR that I "man-splained" to her and the she felt uncomfortable and harassed. Needless to say, I had to continue working with this person for several more years until she got nixed in a merger. Well, yeah, you kinda did mansplain. A better approach, and it's all in adaptable language of feminine and masculine... would be to say: "we should probably ask Barbara to change that water filter so you get the best product from that cooler". That way you are looking out for her best interest and not busting her on stealing water or insinuating she is stupid for her choice. Men are natural "fixers" and they want to invade everyone's life to fix shit. Looking at that from my perspective is that I want to live in my fucked up world and I'll ask you to fix shit when I trust you. There are steps to a relationship. pedagogy, understaning the perspective of others. |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/18/2019 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77614446 You sound like those old grumpy man hating feminists. What harassment are you experiencing? a man check you out for more than 5 Seconds. He probably rode an elevator with her. More like he slammed the door too loud as he ran out of the room to get away from her. I don't know why women in English speaking first world countries think men are supposed to like their "sassy" demeanor and enjoy being put down all the time. Why would I want you to like me? You don't even know me. Or care to. All yall. |
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MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/18/2019 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my 60 years I haven't gone one day without a man harassing me. Maybe you guys can work on that, like find the guys who do this to women and tell them to stop. Quoting: MissCleo Don't claim to be a victim of women because they speak out. Instead be open to improvement and communication. Give it a try. Or beat up women, I don't care. whatever. I don't know any guys like that. And even if I did, it's not my place to be their effin Daddy. Every adult human is responsible for his/her own actions, nothing more, nothing less, at least in peacetime. The only controllable parameter in the idiot drama is one's own sheit and the keeping together of it. Assholes come in both female and male form alike; you cannot legislate or campaign assholishness away. No political solutions to spiritual plobrems :D These are basic, non-negotiable facts of human existence. (With all respect: If I had been harassed every day for 60 years, chances are I might consider maybe investing more effort in observation of self..?) AHhh, so you agree, men have Daddy issues. Indeed. But instead of seeking personal growth they will beat up women. Observation of self, hmmmm.... I walk into the workplace, lusty men make it a point to come to my desk with hope in their eyes of a sexual encounter, daily, multiple men... I have done nothing to allure them, I haven't made advances toward them, I was married, I am dressed professionally, I am a free spirit and friendly. Why should I have to say no every day? Men are constantly seeking sex... that's just a fact. And men have to deal with rejection. So maybe that's where the changes need to be made? |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/18/2019 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^ Look at this post. Oh, no. Women all went out of their way to ignore me when they thought I was little preacher boy virgin in theology school. Quoting: anastasis888 Stuck their uppity noses up at me, ignored me, shunned me, and treated me like the tosspot of the world. Consider the favor returned. You can't get blood from a turnip, you blood sucking vampires. ^ And then you wonder why there's guys who think this way? Heh. wow. logic. More like HIS parents didn't teach him proper coping skills for being rejected. But, yeah, blame women. ok. |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/18/2019 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh those poor feminists.... I've been with jerk men. I've known men who treated my women friends like crap. Guess what? I raised my standards. I stopped talking to them. I walked the hell away, out of the room. Creepy drunk guy at the bar? Either go to the other side or go to a different bar. Creepy guy at work? Find a different job. I'm not minimizing women who are really victims of rape or something...But if some guy makes a lewd comment about how you have nice boobs, walk tf away. I'm sick of women complaining about equality and then bitching that they aren't treated like women. GTFO yourselves. You can't have it both ways. Men and women are different. Period. Quoting: Just Some Chick It’s better in rich progressive blue states. Creepy guy at a bar? Bartender sends HIM to another bar. Creepy guy at work? His female coworkers clue him in that he needs to restrain himself and if he can’t, Human Resources deals with him. Maybe HE needs to find a new job. Some guy makes a lewd comment about how you’ve got nice boobs and others in the vicinity will address that with him immediately, make sure he’s OK and knows he can’t go talking about boobs and make sure you aren’t too rattled by it. It’s really amazing how some parts of the US can be so normal and pleasant while others are so deplorable and dysfunctional. Some folks DO have it both ways—women are equal people AND no one sexually harasses or molests anyone. I didn’t even know the full extent of the misery in the Ohio River Valley until I got out of it for decades and came back. Some folks lack behind. They suffer for it too. So, you take is a step further then. If you disagree with a man's approach in a bar, you feel that it is appropriate for that person to be removed from the bar, just because you said so? Its interesting that this gets labeled "creepy" and "dysfunctional" because if the same person who approached you was a hot, dare I say it, "Chad" - you would have no problem with his approach, even if what transpired was EXACTLY the same. Going out in public, and particularly a bar, is not a guarantee that nobody will try to hit on you. If men never tried hitting on women, the human race itself would die out because there would never be any children to replace those who died. I'm not against controlling these things in places where they are wholly inappropriate but I have also found that in this day and age some women seem to have extremely low standards about what exactly "inappropriate" is. Low standards, yes. Both sexes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72810753 United States 05/18/2019 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And not all men are sexual harassing rapists. But that's how we get treated in the workplace. Quoting: Philly Special This has been going on for decades, I remember when I was in USMC boot camp, my senior DI told all of us "don't talk to or deal with WM's (Women Marines) except for official business. Avoid them out of work, and no more than pleasantries while at work, because they can ruin your career for any or no reason at all." What man wants to put his career in jeopardy because a comment of "that's a nice dress" or "do you need help with that?" gets defined as "harassment"? One place I worked, a new female hire in another department, but same building, was in the kitchen one day while I was making my lunch, filling up her water bottle from the tap-connected water cooler with a filter. I introduced myself and said "Hey, just so you know, nobody uses that cooler and the filter hasn't been changed in years. I wouldn't drink it, you might get botulism or something. Get bottled water out of the drink machine." She turns around and complains to her boss an HR that I "man-splained" to her and the she felt uncomfortable and harassed. Needless to say, I had to continue working with this person for several more years until she got nixed in a merger. Well, yeah, you kinda did mansplain. A better approach, and it's all in adaptable language of feminine and masculine... would be to say: "we should probably ask Barbara to change that water filter so you get the best product from that cooler". That way you are looking out for her best interest and not busting her on stealing water or insinuating she is stupid for her choice. Men are natural "fixers" and they want to invade everyone's life to fix shit. Looking at that from my perspective is that I want to live in my fucked up world and I'll ask you to fix shit when I trust you. There are steps to a relationship. pedagogy, understaning the perspective of others. .... Or he should have kept his mouth shut. It's none of his business if someone is getting a drink of water. If he is that concerned bout a water filter then change it himself. Could have avoid that mess by just moving on. Ole boy learned the stupid lesson the hard way. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71478468 Mexico 05/18/2019 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You retard trolls are going nowhere in your efforts to fix the damage from "metoo", because ANY guy is going to be smart enough to realize that AFTER the women started destroying fewer men via the family courts because guys simply started saying "no family, women are demons" that the women then shifted their destructive efforts to the workplace. Women LOVE being the victim, the downtrodden, the sympathy siphon - and when the state gives them unfettered power to accomplish it, that they are simply to dangerous to associate with. You can screwball talk all you want and there will be only ONE constant: I'll never trust a woman until the state that transformed them into monsters is DEAD. |