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Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people?

 
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Told my husband when they run out of Monsabto/Bayer money they will come for the farmers next and then gardeners.
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Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people?
Farmers that use that poison are scum of the earth.
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If they knowingly use chemicals that will harm people then they should be held responsible for the massive injury and death their food products do.
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Quit being a tool. Farmers are told it's one of the safest chemicals out there, and that it disappears quickly and there is no residual. That's the research!
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Not from what I've read! It stays in the soil!
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Farmers that use that poison are scum of the earth.
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If they knowingly use chemicals that will harm people then they should be held responsible for the massive injury and death their food products do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015


Quit being a tool. Farmers are told it's one of the safest chemicals out there, and that it disappears quickly and there is no residual. That's the research!
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Not from what I've read! It stays in the soil!
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Yes, that is my point, it is what you read! The science says it doesn't, so there's the rub!
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It's all based on science folks, and the science says it is safe, start funding studies, articles from health ranger doesn't cut it!
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So that's why you stopped using it?

Because it's safe? 1dunno1
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No, I quit using it because my hay yields have fallen. It could be climate change though, so I will see. Have gone to cultivating my hay fields in the spring, instead of spraying them. Other than that, we have to rest land here, called summer fallow, this is when roundup is used, and is done before seed is even planted! Once seed is in the ground, no roundup is used, as that would kill the wheat!
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Fair enough. Anyway, the most egregious use is as a harvest desiccant.

It is used on wheat, oats, and many other crops days before harvest. This is what causes the high levels in things like breakfast cereal.
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If they knowingly use chemicals that will harm people then they should be held responsible for the massive injury and death their food products do.
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Quit being a tool. Farmers are told it's one of the safest chemicals out there, and that it disappears quickly and there is no residual. That's the research!
 Quoting: bigD111


Not from what I've read! It stays in the soil!
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Yes, that is my point, it is what you read! The science says it doesn't, so there's the rub!
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It's called Fake Science
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The last word of proof on this should be the fact that even with the best, high-powered lawyers in the world...
MONSANTO/BAYER IS LOSING IN COURT AND PAYING BILLIONS.

That is an in-your-face wakeup call for everyone!

The 'science' is obviously flawed, or this just would not be happening!!!

There is irrefutable proof it is causing illness, or the courts of law would not be awarding these cases to the defendants!

Not going to argue in the face of stupidity with anyone who can't see this!
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BUMP!!!
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Just a suggestion, do you suppose it would do any good to call the FDA, or to petition them to do a study! It would be great to find the truth in all of this!
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Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people?
Could get interesting. Bayer losing billion dollar lawsuits and might go bankrupt. Lawyers might turn to the assets of the food growers as well as the canners and grocery store chains. Also suits against the FDA/ US gov't for allowing the chemical to even be used. Not sure where it will end.
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Monsanto should be held liable, because they force farmers to use their genetically modified seed.
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How do they "force" farmers to use their GMO seed?
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Could get interesting. Bayer losing billion dollar lawsuits and might go bankrupt. Lawyers might turn to the assets of the food growers as well as the canners and grocery store chains. Also suits against the FDA/ US gov't for allowing the chemical to even be used. Not sure where it will end.
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It won't be farmers. The research says it is a safe product, so we are not at fault!
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it is not safe at all..the research was bought and paid for by monsanto
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Go after the assholes that fabricate the 'science' and then change the laws to force this shit. If the farmers don't follow the 'law' they go bankrupt and lose the farm.
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Go after the assholes that fabricate the 'science' and then change the laws to force this shit. If the farmers don't follow the 'law' they go bankrupt and lose the farm.
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We already are headed that way! Not good times for ag!
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Go after the assholes that fabricate the 'science' and then change the laws to force this shit. If the farmers don't follow the 'law' they go bankrupt and lose the farm.
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There is no law forcing farmers to use roundup or gmo seeds.
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Go after the assholes that fabricate the 'science' and then change the laws to force this shit. If the farmers don't follow the 'law' they go bankrupt and lose the farm.
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There is no law forcing farmers to use roundup or gmo seeds.
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True dat! I have never used gmo, except in my garden seed! Almost all corn seed is hybrid, which is basically gmo! What do you use in your garden?
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Quit being a tool. Farmers are told it's one of the safest chemicals out there, and that it disappears quickly and there is no residual. That's the research!
 Quoting: bigD111


Not from what I've read! It stays in the soil!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76566247


Yes, that is my point, it is what you read! The science says it doesn't, so there's the rub!
 Quoting: bigD111


It's called Fake Science
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Just a suggestion, do you suppose it would do any good to call the FDA, or to petition them to do a study! It would be great to find the truth in all of this!
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Bringing this up again!
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Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people?
Could get interesting. Bayer losing billion dollar lawsuits and might go bankrupt. Lawyers might turn to the assets of the food growers as well as the canners and grocery store chains. Also suits against the FDA/ US gov't for allowing the chemical to even be used. Not sure where it will end.
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It won't be farmers. The research says it is a safe product, so we are not at fault!
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Some people are just uninformed and hate farmers and garden store employees and so on.

Consumers have no idea how entangled the agricultural industry is with the use of Roundup, and how dependent the food supply is in on that chemical.

I think probably what will happen is that the solution will move on from outright banning Roundup to phasing out the generic glyphosate products. Just banning Roundup will really not do much except move agriculture and other users over to using the generic Glyphosate and products containing it.
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Could get interesting. Bayer losing billion dollar lawsuits and might go bankrupt. Lawyers might turn to the assets of the food growers as well as the canners and grocery store chains. Also suits against the FDA/ US gov't for allowing the chemical to even be used. Not sure where it will end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015


It won't be farmers. The research says it is a safe product, so we are not at fault!
 Quoting: bigD111


it is not safe at all..the research was bought and paid for by monsanto
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This may well be true, but the law is the law, you know. New, independent, studies need to be done.
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The last word of proof on this should be the fact that even with the best, high-powered lawyers in the world...
MONSANTO/BAYER IS LOSING IN COURT AND PAYING BILLIONS.

That is an in-your-face wakeup call for everyone!

The 'science' is obviously flawed, or this just would not be happening!!!

There is irrefutable proof it is causing illness, or the courts of law would not be awarding these cases to the defendants!

Not going to argue in the face of stupidity with anyone who can't see this!
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Can you spell Chemtrails?

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Farmers that use that poison are scum of the earth.
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Yep! My family only farms organic but most of the farmers are given gallons of Roundup for free courtesy of the govt.
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Farmers that use that poison are scum of the earth.
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Yep! My family only farms organic but most of the farmers are given gallons of Roundup for free courtesy of the govt.
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You got a link for that claim?
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Go after the assholes that fabricate the 'science' and then change the laws to force this shit. If the farmers don't follow the 'law' they go bankrupt and lose the farm.
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There is no law forcing farmers to use roundup or gmo seeds.
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True dat! I have never used gmo, except in my garden seed! Almost all corn seed is hybrid, which is basically gmo! What do you use in your garden?
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Hybrid vegetables are not GMO. See article below.
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Genetically Modified Plants
Hybrids should not be confused with genetically modified organisms–or GMOs–which can be any plant, animal, or microorganism which has been genetically altered using molecular genetics techniques such as gene cloning and protein engineering. Plants like corn that has the pesticide Bt engineered into its genetic makeup to make it resistant to certain pests are GMO crops. Bt is a natural pesticide, but it would never naturally find its way into corn seed.
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I know farmers that use that shit and have for a long time. I always wondered why there were no restriction on how much they could purchase and how often.

They spray that shit on like its nothing but water.
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If the farmers use Monsanto seed, they are always contractually obligated to follow Monsanto's rules on use of Round-up.
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If they knowingly use chemicals that will harm people then they should be held responsible for the massive injury and death their food products do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015


Quit being a tool. Farmers are told it's one of the safest chemicals out there, and that it disappears quickly and there is no residual. That's the research!
 Quoting: bigD111


Not from what I've read! It stays in the soil!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76566247


Yes, that is my point, it is what you read! The science says it doesn't, so there's the rub!
 Quoting: bigD111


BigD, the science has been pointing to Glyphosate (Roundup) being toxic, carcinogenic, and soil persistent for more than a decade now. The USDA "research" is lying to you. Don't get caught with your pants down.

Glyphosate increases cancer risk by 41%

[link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]


International Team concludes Glyphosate is a probable carcinogen

[link to www.soilassociation.org (secure)]



There's a reason it's an outlawed substance in Europe. It's not permitted to be used on any agricultural products.

My girlfriend thought she was gluten intolerant. She could eat wheat products when she was a child and up until she was 30 years old (about 15 years ago). At age 30 every time she ate a wheat product she developed the symptoms of wheat (gluten) intolerance.

I only use flour from Italy (Grassi organic 00) and made an apple pie bundt cake one day. I asked her to try a piece and she did, but she didn't get any of the symptoms she got from eating wheat processed with glyphosate.

Since then, she can eat anything I make out of Italian flour (with no glyphosate) with no problem. If she eats any wheat product with domestic wheat she gets physically ill.


Read how many countries have banned the use of glyphosate:

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Quit being a tool. Farmers are told it's one of the safest chemicals out there, and that it disappears quickly and there is no residual. That's the research!
 Quoting: bigD111


Not from what I've read! It stays in the soil!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76566247


Yes, that is my point, it is what you read! The science says it doesn't, so there's the rub!
 Quoting: bigD111


BigD, the science has been pointing to Glyphosate (Roundup) being toxic, carcinogenic, and soil persistent for more than a decade now. The USDA "research" is lying to you. Don't get caught with your pants down.

Glyphosate increases cancer risk by 41%

[link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]


International Team concludes Glyphosate is a probable carcinogen

[link to www.soilassociation.org (secure)]



There's a reason it's an outlawed substance in Europe. It's not permitted to be used on any agricultural products.

My girlfriend thought she was gluten intolerant. She could eat wheat products when she was a child and up until she was 30 years old (about 15 years ago). At age 30 every time she ate a wheat product she developed the symptoms of wheat (gluten) intolerance.

I only use flour from Italy (Grassi organic 00) and made an apple pie bundt cake one day. I asked her to try a piece and she did, but she didn't get any of the symptoms she got from eating wheat processed with glyphosate.

Since then, she can eat anything I make out of Italian flour (with no glyphosate) with no problem. If she eats any wheat product with domestic wheat she gets physically ill.


Read how many countries have banned the use of glyphosate:

[link to www.baumhedlundlaw.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Callin


Interesting. Thanks.
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Wonder if retail outlets will be sued along with the farmers spraying roundup on food crops once the manufacturer becomes bankrupt.
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I hadn't heard it was outlawed in Europe!!!
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Another thought I have. We export our wheat, and these countries are very determined to keep bad shit out of their food chains, so where is the outcry from them?
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Ever thought about growing Hemp? Extraction companies are looking to buy bulk hemp (cbd)...great profits.
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No warning label = liability
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Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people?
Another thought I have. We export our wheat, and these countries are very determined to keep bad shit out of their food chains, so where is the outcry from them?
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Ever thought about growing Hemp? Extraction companies are looking to buy bulk hemp (cbd)...great profits.
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I have, but think I would need irrigation. Don't know if it would pencil out!
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