Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people?

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Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people?
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26114015 United States 05/23/2019 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Wonder if retail outlets will be sued along with the farmers spraying roundup on food crops once the manufacturer becomes bankrupt. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015
Lily o' the Valley User ID: 23644193 United States 05/23/2019 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? It's all based on science folks, and the science says it is safe, start funding studies, articles from health ranger doesn't cut it! Quoting: bigD111 So that's why you stopped using it? Because it's safe? Quoting: CK Dexter Haven No, I quit using it because my hay yields have fallen. It could be climate change though, so I will see. Have gone to cultivating my hay fields in the spring, instead of spraying them. Other than that, we have to rest land here, called summer fallow, this is when roundup is used, and is done before seed is even planted! Once seed is in the ground, no roundup is used, as that would kill the wheat! Quoting: bigD111 Fair enough. Anyway, the most egregious use is as a harvest desiccant. It is used on wheat, oats, and many other crops days before harvest. This is what causes the high levels in things like breakfast cereal. Quoting: CK Dexter Haven This practice is common for wheat crops only in northern wheat growing regions in the US, more common in Canada. This accounts for only a very small percentage of wheat production in the US. Almost entirely in the Dakotas, unheard of elsewhere. Why spray an expensive herbicide to ripen wheat when it is already ripened and ready to harvest. They call farmers dumb, but they aren't that dumb. * Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *
Lily o' the Valley User ID: 23644193 United States 05/23/2019 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Farmers that use that poison are scum of the earth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498834 Yep! My family only farms organic but most of the farmers are given gallons of Roundup for free courtesy of the govt. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23148413 Really? What program is that? I am going to ask the fellow who leases our land how that works. * Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *
Lily o' the Valley User ID: 23644193 United States 05/23/2019 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? I know farmers that use that shit and have for a long time. I always wondered why there were no restriction on how much they could purchase and how often. They spray that shit on like its nothing but water. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75599290 You must know some pretty rich farmers. Farmers around here really count their pennies as farming is not very profitable, and they would not be spraying anything like it's water. * Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *
Lily o' the Valley User ID: 23644193 United States 05/23/2019 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Another thought I have. We export our wheat, and these countries are very determined to keep bad shit out of their food chains, so where is the outcry from them? Quoting: bigD111 Ever thought about growing Hemp? Extraction companies are looking to buy bulk hemp (cbd)...great profits. Quoting: Mr. Canna Hemp is not legal in all states. * Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *
eilonwy User ID: 77197203 United States 05/23/2019 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? It occurs to me that using it to DESICATE fully grown crops is using it OFF LABEL and if I was a FARMER I'd think about how that might not be a defensible usage. Secondly, there is a higher power that we ALL HAVE TO ANSWER TO
MaybeTrollingUAgain User ID: 75241400 Brazil 05/23/2019 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? How does that shit work: - Farmer will plant his crops - Farmer needs money, banks loan it - Farmer gets conditional loan, meaning that bank only buys if planted thing is GMO and the whole pesticide package is bought and used - Farmer needs money, farmer has no other choice but accept it or go bankrupt - Farmer plants, harvest, sell crops and get money - Farmer must give 90% of money back to bank because small print - Farmer is now sick, broke and next planting season is approaching - Farmer decides if stay in the country side to still be farmer, or go live in suburb in town to at least have three meals a day - Farmer decides to stay - Farmer will plant his crops ... MaybeTrollingUAgain
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76832089 United States 05/23/2019 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? What crops they gonna spray. They haven’t planted much this year.
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26114015 United States 05/24/2019 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? It occurs to me that using it to DESICATE fully grown crops is using it OFF LABEL and if I was a FARMER I'd think about how that might not be a defensible usage. Secondly, there is a higher power that we ALL HAVE TO ANSWER TO Quoting: eilonwy 77197203
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26114015 United States 05/25/2019 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? [link to www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com (secure)] Above link is to an article saying that there is massive use of glyphosate on most US wheat about three days before harvest. Article goes into many of the ways this harms our health. dramatically
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77513145 United States 05/25/2019 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? We’ve known for years that round up was poisonous and carcinogenic. It’s outlawed in most countries. If farmers used it they are minimizing their own responsibility

Anonymous Coward User ID: 77578675 United States 05/25/2019 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Be serious, OP. Trump and Grassley are falling all over themselves to shovel another $16 billion dollars TO big agri corporations. Held liable? hahaha
bigD111 User ID: 65945302 United States 05/25/2019 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Here, read this article. Glyphosate is not banned in Europe for ag use, but they are considering it. [link to www.baumhedlundlaw.com (secure)] deplorably republican
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75788364 United States 05/25/2019 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? CNN uses Roundup. commercials on it's.videos.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75788364 United States 05/25/2019 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? CNN uses Roundup. commercials on it's.videos. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75788364 Btw I didn't type those extra . in that sentence I posted above, shows exactly what kind of people are threatening me.
Loup Garou User ID: 76116323 United States 05/25/2019 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Could get interesting. Bayer losing billion dollar lawsuits and might go bankrupt. Lawyers might turn to the assets of the food growers as well as the canners and grocery store chains. Also suits against the FDA/ US gov't for allowing the chemical to even be used. Not sure where it will end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015 If so, then aren't the local farmers happy now that the Foreign dudes bought them out! That Glyphosate is in everything.. EVERYTHING! :jolly roger: Last Edited by Loup Garou on 05/25/2019 04:46 PM Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76509910 United States 05/25/2019 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Dont eat it if you are so sure then idiot
White Wolf Waking User ID: 76693158 United States 05/25/2019 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Go after the assholes that fabricate the 'science' and then change the laws to force this shit. If the farmers don't follow the 'law' they go bankrupt and lose the farm. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77103211 There is no law forcing farmers to use roundup or gmo seeds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015 They should have known better. Common sense not to use chemicals on food or grass. I buy organic to patronize farmers who care and do it right. ANIMAL FRIEND "All creatures are created from the same paternal heartbeat of God. Not to hurt our humble brethren is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission--to be of service to them wherever they require it. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." -St. Francis of Assisi "The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." -Gandhi Thread: Top 10 Opera Auditions (My Music Thread)
bigD111 User ID: 65945302 United States 05/25/2019 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? [link to www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com (secure)] Above link is to an article saying that there is massive use of glyphosate on most US wheat about three days before harvest. Article goes into many of the ways this harms our health. dramatically Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015 Yeah more bullshit OP. Here's the facts. Spraying Roundup on U.S. wheat crops prior to harvest is an uncommon practice; furthermore, according to label directions, wheat farmers must wait to harvest a crop until a minimum of 14 days after a glyphosate-based application. Claims similar to these have been addressed in the past on GMO Answers. deplorably republican
bigD111 User ID: 65945302 United States 05/25/2019 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Yeah, idiot yourself. Stick your red karma up your nostril! deplorably republican
bigD111 User ID: 65945302 United States 05/25/2019 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? [link to www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com (secure)] Above link is to an article saying that there is massive use of glyphosate on most US wheat about three days before harvest. Article goes into many of the ways this harms our health. dramatically Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015 Yeah more bullshit OP. Here's the facts. Spraying Roundup on U.S. wheat crops prior to harvest is an uncommon practice; furthermore, according to label directions, wheat farmers must wait to harvest a crop until a minimum of 14 days after a glyphosate-based application. Claims similar to these have been addressed in the past on GMO Answers. Quoting: bigD111 The only reason they would spray wheat prior to harvest is to kill a weed infestation, that is the only reason it would be done. When there is heavy rain, this can happen in weed prone areas. Roundup takes 10 days minimum to start drying out weeds, so whoever you got the 3 days prior to harvest info from is a liar. deplorably republican
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77577774 United States 05/25/2019 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? No because farmers were told it was safe. Monsanto/Bayer should be held accountable. Quoting: Rabbit In The Hat This. The manufacturer of that shit is who is liable.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76370924 Sweden 05/25/2019 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? [link to www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com (secure)] Above link is to an article saying that there is massive use of glyphosate on most US wheat about three days before harvest. Article goes into many of the ways this harms our health. dramatically Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015 Yeah more bullshit OP. Here's the facts. Spraying Roundup on U.S. wheat crops prior to harvest is an uncommon practice; furthermore, according to label directions, wheat farmers must wait to harvest a crop until a minimum of 14 days after a glyphosate-based application. Claims similar to these have been addressed in the past on GMO Answers. Quoting: bigD111 The only reason they would spray wheat prior to harvest is to kill a weed infestation, that is the only reason it would be done. When there is heavy rain, this can happen in weed prone areas. Roundup takes 10 days minimum to start drying out weeds, so whoever you got the 3 days prior to harvest info from is a liar. Quoting: bigD111 Bullshit. They spray the wheat in order to get all plants to die at the same time, just in time for harvest.
bigD111 User ID: 65945302 United States 05/25/2019 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? [link to www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com (secure)] Above link is to an article saying that there is massive use of glyphosate on most US wheat about three days before harvest. Article goes into many of the ways this harms our health. dramatically Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015 Yeah more bullshit OP. Here's the facts. Spraying Roundup on U.S. wheat crops prior to harvest is an uncommon practice; furthermore, according to label directions, wheat farmers must wait to harvest a crop until a minimum of 14 days after a glyphosate-based application. Claims similar to these have been addressed in the past on GMO Answers. Quoting: bigD111 The only reason they would spray wheat prior to harvest is to kill a weed infestation, that is the only reason it would be done. When there is heavy rain, this can happen in weed prone areas. Roundup takes 10 days minimum to start drying out weeds, so whoever you got the 3 days prior to harvest info from is a liar. Quoting: bigD111 Bullshit. They spray the wheat in order to get all plants to die at the same time, just in time for harvest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Yeah right, that is bullshit. It's the grain that has to dry, it is protected by a hull. Spraying Roundup on grain does not dry it out. I raise grain, don't tell me lies! deplorably republican
TXGLP2 User ID: 76819314 United States 05/25/2019 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? Go after the assholes that fabricate the 'science' and then change the laws to force this shit. If the farmers don't follow the 'law' they go bankrupt and lose the farm. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77103211 There is no law forcing farmers to use roundup or gmo seeds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26114015 As of 2014, Monsanto hadn't lost a case for 16 straight years when suing a farmer. Wonder what went down in 1998? [link to www.fooddemocracynow.org (secure)] These farmers get tied up in contracts and before you know it, say, in India, there are 200+ suicides. Bayer must have like those odds (heh, heh, heh). I think the Farmers SHOULD be held liable. It's not as if the science on organic vs. GMO hasn't been out there for a couple of decades, at least. Last Edited by TXGLP2 on 05/25/2019 05:20 PM
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76370924 Sweden 05/25/2019 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? ... Yeah more bullshit OP. Here's the facts. Spraying Roundup on U.S. wheat crops prior to harvest is an uncommon practice; furthermore, according to label directions, wheat farmers must wait to harvest a crop until a minimum of 14 days after a glyphosate-based application. Claims similar to these have been addressed in the past on GMO Answers. Quoting: bigD111 The only reason they would spray wheat prior to harvest is to kill a weed infestation, that is the only reason it would be done. When there is heavy rain, this can happen in weed prone areas. Roundup takes 10 days minimum to start drying out weeds, so whoever you got the 3 days prior to harvest info from is a liar. Quoting: bigD111 Bullshit. They spray the wheat in order to get all plants to die at the same time, just in time for harvest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Yeah right, that is bullshit. It's the grain that has to dry, it is protected by a hull. Spraying Roundup on grain does not dry it out. I raise grain, don't tell me lies! Quoting: bigD111 It is a common knowledge and practice all over the world. You drench the wheat fields up to 10 days before harvest in order to kill them off at the same time. You claim to be a farmer, yet, you are guessing when it comes to common knowledge.
bigD111 User ID: 65945302 United States 05/25/2019 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? ... The only reason they would spray wheat prior to harvest is to kill a weed infestation, that is the only reason it would be done. When there is heavy rain, this can happen in weed prone areas. Roundup takes 10 days minimum to start drying out weeds, so whoever you got the 3 days prior to harvest info from is a liar. Quoting: bigD111 Bullshit. They spray the wheat in order to get all plants to die at the same time, just in time for harvest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Yeah right, that is bullshit. It's the grain that has to dry, it is protected by a hull. Spraying Roundup on grain does not dry it out. I raise grain, don't tell me lies! Quoting: bigD111 It is a common knowledge and practice all over the world. You drench the wheat fields up to 10 days before harvest in order to kill them off at the same time. You claim to be a farmer, yet, you are guessing when it comes to common knowledge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Totally ridiculous! You swath the grain to get it to dry, not spray it with chemical!!! That is ludicrous! deplorably republican
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76370924 Sweden 05/25/2019 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? ... Bullshit. They spray the wheat in order to get all plants to die at the same time, just in time for harvest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Yeah right, that is bullshit. It's the grain that has to dry, it is protected by a hull. Spraying Roundup on grain does not dry it out. I raise grain, don't tell me lies! Quoting: bigD111 It is a common knowledge and practice all over the world. You drench the wheat fields up to 10 days before harvest in order to kill them off at the same time. You claim to be a farmer, yet, you are guessing when it comes to common knowledge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Totally ridiculous! You swath the grain to get it to dry, not spray it with chemical!!! That is ludicrous! Quoting: bigD111 Say what you want. You have already said too much. "The only reason they would spray wheat prior to harvest is to kill a weed infestation"
bigD111 User ID: 65945302 United States 05/25/2019 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? ... Yeah right, that is bullshit. It's the grain that has to dry, it is protected by a hull. Spraying Roundup on grain does not dry it out. I raise grain, don't tell me lies! Quoting: bigD111 It is a common knowledge and practice all over the world. You drench the wheat fields up to 10 days before harvest in order to kill them off at the same time. You claim to be a farmer, yet, you are guessing when it comes to common knowledge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Totally ridiculous! You swath the grain to get it to dry, not spray it with chemical!!! That is ludicrous! Quoting: bigD111 Say what you want. You have already said too much. "The only reason they would spray wheat prior to harvest is to kill a weed infestation" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Here's one for you too! deplorably republican
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76370924 Sweden 05/25/2019 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Are farmers using roundup going to be held liable for the harm their harvests have done to people? ... It is a common knowledge and practice all over the world. You drench the wheat fields up to 10 days before harvest in order to kill them off at the same time. You claim to be a farmer, yet, you are guessing when it comes to common knowledge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Totally ridiculous! You swath the grain to get it to dry, not spray it with chemical!!! That is ludicrous! Quoting: bigD111 Say what you want. You have already said too much. "The only reason they would spray wheat prior to harvest is to kill a weed infestation" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370924 Here's one for you too! Quoting: bigD111 Here is for you farmer noob. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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