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Is fascism left or right?

 
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Is fascism left or right?
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
It could be either in extreme cases. Something dolts here fail to realize.
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It's corporatism joined at the hip with a military junta.
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
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Both, left and right is the sane
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
Capitalism is not congruent with Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Marxism, etc, et al.
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
The folk who invented Fascism were on the very far right. Can't change that with clever videos trying to twist the truth up to protect yourself from your own misgivings.
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
fascism always comes from the left.
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The folk who invented Fascism were on the very far right. Can't change that with clever videos trying to twist the truth up to protect yourself from your own misgivings.
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Thing is, we don't like big government for the most part.

It is why we fiercely defend the 2nd Amendment to keep tyranny at bay.
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
The folk who invented Fascism were on the very far right. Can't change that with clever videos trying to twist the truth up to protect yourself from your own misgivings.
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Thing is, we don't like big government for the most part.

It is why we fiercely defend the 2nd Amendment to keep tyranny at bay.
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That's the Tea Party subsect of the Right, an Alt-Right.

Same deal with the libtards.. not all Leftists are socialists, for example.
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
fascism definition : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition



The English words fascism and fascist are borrowings from Italian fascismo and fascista, derivatives of fascio (plural fasci), “bundle, fasces, group.” Fascista was first used in 1914 to refer to members of a fascio, or political group. In 1919, fascista was applied to the black-shirted members of Benito Mussolini’s organization, the Fasci di combattimento (“combat groups”), who seized power in Italy in 1922. Playing on the word fascista, Mussolini’s party adopted the fasces, a bundle of rods with an ax among them, as a symbol of the Italian people united and obedient to the single authority of the state. The English word fascist was first used for members of Mussolini’s fascisti, but it has since been generalized to those of similar beliefs.


Mussolini was a democratic socialist when he first came into power, hence by appealing to peoples national socialist support to champion the state, hence it is a far left opinion.


‘If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism’ - Ronald Reagan
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
Historically it was LEFT

Dumbass Millenials callin it RIGHT

Just another way they divide us

CONFLATE terms taught in schools so generations cannot debate
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While dude might have started out as a liberal, the war changed everything:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

Fascists saw World War I as a revolution that brought massive changes to the nature of war, society, the state, and technology. The advent of total war and the total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilians and combatants. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war. The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.

Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.

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"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire."
~ Robert Anson Heinlein

"Fascism is a word used to hide the sins of socialism. It is used to rehabilitate the deadly dogma of socialism. It is used to cover-up the actual name of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. It is used to cover-up the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): ~60 million killed under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, ~50 million under the Peoples' Republic of China, ~20 million under the National Socialist German Workers' Party."

"In my recent article on Tony Kushner, I suggested that his socialist views were somehow akin to fascism. Predictably enough, the knee-jerk reaction to this statement was the reassertion of an old historical fallacy: the notion that socialism and fascism are somehow opposed to each other, that they have been historical rivals, that there is nothing but difference between the two -- and that I must have been ignorant of this historical fact. I did not, however, make this comparison glibly. Taken in full historical context, with full consideration of philosophic principle, socialism and fascism are essentially the same."
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Thread: Man in 2007 Predicted How Future Fascism Would Really Work and How Most Conspiracy Theorists Had it All Wrong - Proven Correct 10 Years Later
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
Fascism is violence against free speech.

Such as ripping a cap off somebodies head because it has political speech...or punching them in the face.

Slashing their tires or torching their car because of a political bumper sticker.

Banning persons from social media sites because of whom they claim to vote for.

Vandalizing their home because of a political yard sign.

Does that sound like the left or right to you?
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
Fascism is violence against free speech.

Such as ripping a cap off somebodies head because it has political speech...or punching them in the face.

Slashing their tires or torching their car because of a political bumper sticker.

Banning persons from social media sites because of whom they claim to vote for.

Vandalizing their home because of a political yard sign.

Does that sound like the left or right to you?
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
While dude might have started out as a liberal, the war changed everything:
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The proof that this happens is that your current leader was a libtard not so long ago heh
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
The epitome of fascism to most people is best symbolized by Adolph Hitler.

He was a big supporter of animal rights. That's more of a liberal/leftist trait.

He favored a vegan diet because he didn't like humans thinking of animals as food. That's more of a liberal/leftist trait.

He originally was a creative-artsy person, an artist/painter, and was homosexual. Those traits are associated with many more people of the left than the right.

He admired Islam but was dismissive of Christianity. Even more so in 2019, that's a trait common among liberals/leftists way more than conservatives/rightists.

He considered socialism/Communism as a good approach to life. That is definitely way more of a liberal/leftist trait, not a conservative/rightist one.

His Third Reich sure as hell wasn't a hand-off, non-big-brother government. Hardly surprising since his political party contained the word "socialist" in it.

Hitler had the honesty, common sense, rationality, integrity, ethics and compassion of a person who'd say something like "we came, we saw, he died." Then start cackling. Or a person who'd say, "you didn't build that." Then dismissing people for clinging to their guns and religion.


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Re: Is fascism left or right?
Fascism is violence against free speech.

Such as ripping a cap off somebodies head because it has political speech...or punching them in the face.

Slashing their tires or torching their car because of a political bumper sticker.

Banning persons from social media sites because of whom they claim to vote for.

Vandalizing their home because of a political yard sign.

Does that sound like the left or right to you?
 Quoting: Mental Case



Bing, bing, bing!

Very little of that - if none of that - was evident following November 2008 and November 2012.

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Ahh the mental gymnastics you folk are doing in order to try to convince yourselves you weren't supporting the side of the Axis of Evil.

:giggle:
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It's corporatism joined at the hip with a military junta.
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Like having cops at Walmart to arrest you if you put up some shit about them looking at your receipt.
Funny how 'social security' has a shortfall...but never WELFARE!
Gimme a break.
Somehow, we can always afford ALL types of welfare (even for millions of illegal immigrants!), plus billions in foreign aid to nations that hate us...BUT...social security is a "problem".

Nah, the problem is the goobermint...Unknown AC.


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While dude might have started out as a liberal, the war changed everything:

Fascism is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

Fascists saw World War I as a revolution that brought massive changes to the nature of war, society, the state, and technology. The advent of total war and the total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilians and combatants. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war. The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.

Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.

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Wikipedia is not a source. It can be edited by anyone, and obviously has been by someone with an agenda. This has been covered here, before.

The axis powers were considered facist regimes and all of them were socialist/communist states, which is a far-left ideal.
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
If pure left is authoritarian and pure right is anarchy it becomes rather clear.
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
Always been a LEFTY movement.
IF anyone says RIGHT then you know that person don't know jack shit and has shit for brains.
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If pure left is authoritarian and pure right is anarchy it becomes rather clear.
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OR you could call it collectivism (left) and individualism (right).
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The folk who invented Fascism were on the very far right. Can't change that with clever videos trying to twist the truth up to protect yourself from your own misgivings.
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Why do you always lie?
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Re: Is fascism left or right?
It can be applied to either.
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Who smashes/destroys college campuses when a political speaker comes in?

The left or right?
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Main article: Fascist (insult)

The term "fascist" has been used as a pejorative,[67] regarding varying movements across the far right of the political spectrum.[68] George Orwell wrote in 1944 that "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless ... almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'".[68]
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The best accepted example of fascism was Nazi Germany, and they were National Socialists.
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Who smashes/destroys college campuses when a political speaker comes in?

The left or right?
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An even better question...

Historically speaking, who has killed FAR more people?

Fascists, or Communists?