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Non-Citizens Commit 42% Of Federal Crimes, Despite Being Only 7% Of US Population | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76661426 United States05/20/2019 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, being here illegally is a federal crime -- so this is a big "no shit?" story More meaningful statistics would be one showing the proportion of illegals that commit violent crimes, rape, etc I would bet it would be very low -- most illegal immigrants are Roman Catholics, with strong morals and family values they come here to work, doing the jobs that "real" Americans are too lazy to do -- they don't come here to commit crimes |
| The Natural One (OP) User ID: 71776179 United States05/20/2019 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, being here illegally is a federal crime -- so this is a big "no shit?" story Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76661426 More meaningful statistics would be one showing the proportion of illegals that commit violent crimes, rape, etc I would bet it would be very low -- most illegal immigrants are Roman Catholics, with strong morals and family values they come here to work, doing the jobs that "real" Americans are too lazy to do -- they don't come here to commit crimes Yes, MS-13 is well known for its Christian based Mission Statement. TRUST THE PLAN - Q |
| Clair_Voyant User ID: 61021459 United States05/20/2019 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Quoting: The Natural One Non-Citizens Commit 42% Of Federal Crimes, Despite Being Only 7% Of US Population by Tyler Durden Fri, 05/17/2019 - 17:45 ... ... The United States Sentencing Commission reviewed 321,000 sentencing documents in fiscal year 2018 and outlined several statistics in the annual report: In fiscal year 2018, the courts reported 69,425 felony and Class A misdemeanor cases to the Commission. This represents an increase of 2,552 cases from the prior fiscal year, and the first increase since fiscal year 2011. The race of federal offenders remained largely unchanged from prior years. In fiscal year 2018, 54.3 percent of all offenders were Hispanic, 21.2 percent were White, 20.6 percent were Black, and 3.8 percent were of another race. Non-U.S. Citizens accounted for 42.7 percent of all federal offenders. Immigration cases accounted for the largest single group of offenses in fiscal year 2018, comprising 34.4 percent of all reported cases. Cases involving drugs, firearms, and fraud were the next most common types of offenses after immigration cases. Together these four types of offenses accounted for 82.9 percent of all cases reported to the Commission in fiscal year 2018. ... ... less than 50% They may be 7% of people within the U.S., but since they are non-citizens, they are actually 0% of the U.S. Population. They should not by included in the U.S. population numbers. "Time hustles those who wait to die" "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind" GOD WINS! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76661426 United States05/20/2019 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They may be 7% of people within the U.S., but since they are non-citizens, they are actually 0% of the U.S. Population. They should not by included in the U.S. population numbers. Quoting: Clair_Voyant Actually more than 7%, since the 40 million estimate is probably closer to reality, and probably at least another 10 million will arrive in the next couple of years or so Fortunately, most of them are decent folks, just looking for a better life for their children -- very few are violent criminals |
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| Clair_Voyant User ID: 61021459 United States05/20/2019 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They may be 7% of people within the U.S., but since they are non-citizens, they are actually 0% of the U.S. Population. They should not by included in the U.S. population numbers. Quoting: Clair_Voyant Actually more than 7%, since the 40 million estimate is probably closer to reality, and probably at least another 10 million will arrive in the next couple of years or so Fortunately, most of them are decent folks, just looking for a better life for their children -- very few are violent criminals Unfortunately, there are also decent folks trying to come here legally who now have to wait longer because of the "decent" folks who come illegally. I would prefer the one trying to do it legally. Last Edited by Clair-Voyant on 05/20/2019 12:18 PM "Time hustles those who wait to die" "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind" GOD WINS! |
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| Clair_Voyant User ID: 61021459 United States05/20/2019 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They may be 7% of people within the U.S., but since they are non-citizens, they are actually 0% of the U.S. Population. They should not by included in the U.S. population numbers. Quoting: Clair_Voyant Actually more than 7%, since the 40 million estimate is probably closer to reality, and probably at least another 10 million will arrive in the next couple of years or so Fortunately, most of them are decent folks, just looking for a better life for their children -- very few are violent criminals Unfortunately, there are also decent folks trying to come here legally who now have to wait longer because of the "decent" folks who come illegally. I would prefer the one trying to do it legally. "Time hustles those who wait to die" "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind" GOD WINS! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76661426 United States05/20/2019 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "They have to commit crimes to survive because of the racist immigration process" in 3..2..1.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77417102 That will happen, if some fools have their way and cut off food stamps, health care and other aid for these folks Even with what they make working, most immigrant families have to get some government aid to get by And some want to make it where they can't get work if that happened, most would "self-deport" and return home -- but those who don't want to leave will be forced to turn to other means to get by and take care of their kids -- and that could include resorting to crime |
| CSnow User ID: 74827762 United States05/20/2019 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, being here illegally is a federal crime -- so this is a big "no shit?" story Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76661426 More meaningful statistics would be one showing the proportion of illegals that commit violent crimes, rape, etc I would bet it would be very low -- most illegal immigrants are Roman Catholics, with strong morals and family values they come here to work, doing the jobs that "real" Americans are too lazy to do -- they don't come here to commit crimes Willfully naive and smugly idealistic on your part. You might just as well claim that that Pope Francis, because he's a Catholic, isn't a raunchy leftist. A person whose sympathies lie with the con artists of the world, including liberals like pay-to-play Hillary, US-hating Barack and Nazi-helping George Soros. You might just as well say that Mexico, because it has been dominated by its political left (Institutional Revolution Party) for generations, is a safe, prosperous, low-corruption, low-misery, low-inhumane country. . |
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| 1guynAz User ID: 77374766 United States05/20/2019 01:01 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think employers are getting wind of prosecutorial officials coming after them for hiring "illegal immigrants" and are shutting down their ability to earn a living. THAT has started to make it "necessary" for crime to be committed. I may be wrong but...where does it look like this crisis is going? I'm thinking logically here...the next move is e-verify FOR ALL EMPLOYERS!!!! Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
| Clair_Voyant User ID: 61021459 United States05/20/2019 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "They have to commit crimes to survive because of the racist immigration process" in 3..2..1.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77417102 That will happen, if some fools have their way and cut off food stamps, health care and other aid for these folks Even with what they make working, most immigrant families have to get some government aid to get by And some want to make it where they can't get work if that happened, most would "self-deport" and return home -- but those who don't want to leave will be forced to turn to other means to get by and take care of their kids -- and that could include resorting to crime The promise of government aid is what brought them here. Government aid is your/our tax dollars. We are/were sending the countries they came from foreign aid, so they could help these people and not need to come here. Unfortunately, they come here, because our government actually distributes government aid, where their home countries do not. Help me with your logic. They break our laws to come here illegally, but then are forced to commit crimes to get by? I don't follow. I have an idea...come legally, and you won't be "forced" to commit further crimes. It's like once you start lying, you have to keep on lying to cover up all the other lies. "Time hustles those who wait to die" "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind" GOD WINS! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77391584 United States05/20/2019 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Quoting: The Natural One Non-Citizens Commit 42% Of Federal Crimes, Despite Being Only 7% Of US Population by Tyler Durden Fri, 05/17/2019 - 17:45 ... ... The United States Sentencing Commission reviewed 321,000 sentencing documents in fiscal year 2018 and outlined several statistics in the annual report: In fiscal year 2018, the courts reported 69,425 felony and Class A misdemeanor cases to the Commission. This represents an increase of 2,552 cases from the prior fiscal year, and the first increase since fiscal year 2011. The race of federal offenders remained largely unchanged from prior years. In fiscal year 2018, 54.3 percent of all offenders were Hispanic, 21.2 percent were White, 20.6 percent were Black, and 3.8 percent were of another race. Non-U.S. Citizens accounted for 42.7 percent of all federal offenders. Immigration cases accounted for the largest single group of offenses in fiscal year 2018, comprising 34.4 percent of all reported cases. Cases involving drugs, firearms, and fraud were the next most common types of offenses after immigration cases. Together these four types of offenses accounted for 82.9 percent of all cases reported to the Commission in fiscal year 2018. ... ... less than 50% They may be 7% of people within the U.S., but since they are non-citizens, they are actually 0% of the U.S. Population. They should not by included in the U.S. population numbers. Are you serious? That is stupid, they are still here, so still make up a percent of the people. Since they are here illegally that is a 100% crime rate in itself. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3448360 United States05/20/2019 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, being here illegally is a federal crime -- so this is a big "no shit?" story Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76661426 More meaningful statistics would be one showing the proportion of illegals that commit violent crimes, rape, etc I would bet it would be very low -- most illegal immigrants are Roman Catholics, with strong morals and family values they come here to work, doing the jobs that "real" Americans are too lazy to do -- they don't come here to commit crimes You have got to be joking. Catholic's, be they Roman or Orthodox, are some of the biggest whores, and are among the most troublesome aspects of America's population. Without Catholic's, by and large there would be no organized Crime in America. Catholic's are a wholly criminal religion. |
| CSnow User ID: 74827762 United States05/20/2019 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have got to be joking. Catholic's, be they Roman or Orthodox, are some of the biggest whores, and are among the most troublesome aspects of America's population. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3448360 Without Catholic's, by and large there would be no organized Crime in America. Catholic's are a wholly criminal religion. Moreover, there are liberal/leftwing Christians (look at the Pope in Rome) who might just as well be secularists spouting "We came, we saw, he died." Then cackling. . |
| Clair_Voyant User ID: 61021459 United States05/20/2019 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Quoting: The Natural One Non-Citizens Commit 42% Of Federal Crimes, Despite Being Only 7% Of US Population by Tyler Durden Fri, 05/17/2019 - 17:45 ... ... The United States Sentencing Commission reviewed 321,000 sentencing documents in fiscal year 2018 and outlined several statistics in the annual report: In fiscal year 2018, the courts reported 69,425 felony and Class A misdemeanor cases to the Commission. This represents an increase of 2,552 cases from the prior fiscal year, and the first increase since fiscal year 2011. The race of federal offenders remained largely unchanged from prior years. In fiscal year 2018, 54.3 percent of all offenders were Hispanic, 21.2 percent were White, 20.6 percent were Black, and 3.8 percent were of another race. Non-U.S. Citizens accounted for 42.7 percent of all federal offenders. Immigration cases accounted for the largest single group of offenses in fiscal year 2018, comprising 34.4 percent of all reported cases. Cases involving drugs, firearms, and fraud were the next most common types of offenses after immigration cases. Together these four types of offenses accounted for 82.9 percent of all cases reported to the Commission in fiscal year 2018. ... ... less than 50% They may be 7% of people within the U.S., but since they are non-citizens, they are actually 0% of the U.S. Population. They should not by included in the U.S. population numbers. Are you serious? That is stupid, they are still here, so still make up a percent of the people. Since they are here illegally that is a 100% crime rate in itself. Ah...reading comprehension much? I'd did say they were 7% of the people here genius, just should not be counted as part of the "U.S." Population, since they aren't "U.S." Citizens. Counting them as part of the "U.S." Population gives them more legitimacy in my mind. Last Edited by Clair-Voyant on 05/20/2019 01:46 PM "Time hustles those who wait to die" "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind" GOD WINS! |
| hope User ID: 77653393  Namibia05/20/2019 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then deport these people, especially if they committed these crimes on a tourist visa or whatever. Open borders can be dangerous. Stricter border control can also mean less money into the country so maybe money is more important than human life or whatever. The love of money is the root of all evil by the way. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42555665 United States05/20/2019 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] Quoting: The Natural One Non-Citizens Commit 42% Of Federal Crimes, Despite Being Only 7% Of US Population by Tyler Durden Fri, 05/17/2019 - 17:45 ... ... The United States Sentencing Commission reviewed 321,000 sentencing documents in fiscal year 2018 and outlined several statistics in the annual report: In fiscal year 2018, the courts reported 69,425 felony and Class A misdemeanor cases to the Commission. This represents an increase of 2,552 cases from the prior fiscal year, and the first increase since fiscal year 2011. The race of federal offenders remained largely unchanged from prior years. In fiscal year 2018, 54.3 percent of all offenders were Hispanic, 21.2 percent were White, 20.6 percent were Black, and 3.8 percent were of another race. Non-U.S. Citizens accounted for 42.7 percent of all federal offenders. Immigration cases accounted for the largest single group of offenses in fiscal year 2018, comprising 34.4 percent of all reported cases. Cases involving drugs, firearms, and fraud were the next most common types of offenses after immigration cases. Together these four types of offenses accounted for 82.9 percent of all cases reported to the Commission in fiscal year 2018. ... ... less than 50%  this is BS...everyone knows the majority of crime involves kneegrowes.....what good does cloaking this information do? Maybe if everyone understood the impact of these vermin, we could take measures toward curing the plague! |
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| Gabriel~ User ID: 77633887  Canada05/20/2019 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But how many of these federal crimes are simply due to them being illegal here in the first place(which shouldn’t count here for obvious reasons)? Or personal drug possession? I’m only interested in violent crimes that actually hurt people. Nonviolent crimes should be always separated in statistics... some ‘crimes’ like drug possession are not really criminal in my opinion. Last Edited by Gabriel~ on 05/20/2019 02:21 PM I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3 We’re all in the same game; just different levels Dealing with the same hell; just different devils |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76661426 United States05/20/2019 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think employers are getting wind of prosecutorial officials Quoting: 1guynAz coming after them for hiring "illegal immigrants" and are shutting down their ability to earn a living. THAT has started to make it "necessary" for crime to be committed. I may be wrong but...where does it look like this crisis is going? I'm thinking logically here...the next move is e-verify FOR ALL EMPLOYERS!!!! How are places like slaughterhouses, roofing companies, etc -- how are they supposed to get workers then ? Americans won't do those sorts of jobs -- or if they will they expect high salaries and benefits in return ... At my neighborhood grocery I can buy a whole fryer chicken for around $3.50 -- I hate to imagine what the cost would be without "illegal" immigrant labor ... probably $5 or more I would bet do you want to pay $5 for a tomatoe ? That's what would happen, without guest worker labor |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76661426 United States05/20/2019 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But how many of these federal crimes are simply due to them being illegal here in the first place? Or personal drug possession? I’m only interested in violent crimes that actually hurt people. Quoting: Gabriel~ Wow, another smart person here :) Would love to see the statistics on that -- I would guarantee, "illegals" commit no more violent crime than Hispanics who are citizens probably far less actually. Perhaps they commit more violent crime than whites, but not by much. |
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| Gabriel~ User ID: 77633887 Canada05/20/2019 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But how many of these federal crimes are simply due to them being illegal here in the first place? Or personal drug possession? I’m only interested in violent crimes that actually hurt people. Quoting: Gabriel~ Wow, another smart person here :) Would love to see the statistics on that -- I would guarantee, "illegals" commit no more violent crime than Hispanics who are citizens probably far less actually. Perhaps they commit more violent crime than whites, but not by much. Most illegals are just here trying to make a better life for them and their families. I would think these people would want to lay low, rather than go on crime sprees. In fact, many illegals come here trying to ESCAPE the crime in Mexico and other places. Last Edited by Gabriel~ on 05/20/2019 02:28 PM I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3 We’re all in the same game; just different levels Dealing with the same hell; just different devils |
