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Abortion in antiquity

 
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


And today, we rip off their arms & legs, puncture their skulls & suck out their brains... while alive.

So civilized.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan

Then sold for profit.

Their stories always seem to end that way.

If only OP could get his slice of that sweet PP Profit Pie
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Safe Haven laws allow an unwanted newborn to be dropped off at a police department, fire station or hospital. The parent(s) usually have 30 days to reclaim the child if they change their mind. So why murder 3rd trimester babies? Makes no sense.

Those people who participate in, perform or assist in abortion, when they die they will suffer the same pain they have inflicted on those innocent babies. Karma is real.

I hope one day that contraceptives are free to all that want them and abortion becomes a thing of the past, just a regrettable stain on history.
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


Cant protect everyone. Nature is cruel. Snowflakes on both sides now think they can save everyone just so they feel good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77668930


Are you insane?
I guess Western Civilization, the product
of CHRISTIANITY, and the Bible,
slipped your education?

In the 1960's WESTERN CIVILIZATION was a
mandatory high school subject.

So, in this Brave New World you millennials
are going to create, the Moral Foundation
upon which Western Civilization rests is to
be discarded?

You are NOT going to like what you wind up
with.
Planet Earth has been there, and done that
MANY MANY times before.
Think MAD MAX on steroids.
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


Cant protect everyone. Nature is cruel. Snowflakes on both sides now think they can save everyone just so they feel good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77668930


One side only cares to control others bodies. Not about what’s being tossed into the rubbish so much
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One side doesn't want to participate, financially or otherwise. I think that's fair.
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The Book of Enoch tells us that these fallen angels taught men many things, and says that they "...showed the children of men … the smitings of the embryo in the womb, that it may pass away,..." (1Enoch 69:12)
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


And today, we rip off their arms & legs, puncture their skulls & suck out their brains... while alive.

So civilized.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Tossing them into the river was quicker and more humane ... 5 minutes max to drown ... Supposedly not painful per se ... Maybe our ancestors did have a heart and mercy killing was part of that ... Life was cruel for many ... And now even more cruel with all our high-tech bullshit ...Oregon Trail was a good game ...
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Nah they were always scum.
Also throwing in the river wasn't the custom, it was putting them out in the forest to be eaten by wild beasts.

Or they just burned them to their idols like molech and similar idols.
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


except for the fact that in modern western society that's illegal and the parent(s) can and will be criminally charged with

- failing to provide the necessities of life
and or
- child abandonment / endangerment
etc.

in ancient times they sacrificed their babies to pagan deities
eg. the fiery red hot outstretch arms of Molech

in some third world shit hole places they still throw their babies into the river

in the modern society we can be more civilized about it

adoption is one

do you know how fn long the wait list is to adopt a newborn?
 Quoting: Red John


Unfortunately most people, grandparents of the baby included, would rather abort the baby (or allow it to grow up unwanted in their home) than EVER let it be adopted/ raised by a stranger.
Life is a spiritual war and no matter where we lay our head, we live in a warzone.

There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


except for the fact that in modern western society that's illegal and the parent(s) can and will be criminally charged with

- failing to provide the necessities of life
and or
- child abandonment / endangerment
etc.

 Quoting: Red John


No, women who performed self induced abortion don't tell it.
It was pretty common when abortion was illegal.
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


Cant protect everyone. Nature is cruel. Snowflakes on both sides now think they can save everyone just so they feel good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77668930


One side only cares to control others bodies. Not about what’s being tossed into the rubbish so much
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77286179


Women can always keep their legs closed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665139


I had to really contemplate the notion of performing vasectomies on all males (the kind that can be reversed) and when the male passes a drug-free test, (proving he is not an alcoholic/addict or at least control his use) parenting classes and can prove he is able to support a child, then he can have it reversed. What kind of world would it be?
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


Let me guess...

Your answer is to kill it while it is still in the womb, while it can't make a sound... instead of killing it an hour later when it is outside the womb and breathing the natural air and crying for its life.

Something like that?
Seekinginformation
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


atleast some one would come along and take it in and look after it hell yeah better then abortion loser
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Cant protect everyone. Nature is cruel. Snowflakes on both sides now think they can save everyone just so they feel good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77668930


One side only cares to control others bodies. Not about what’s being tossed into the rubbish so much
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77286179


Women can always keep their legs closed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665139


aND MEN CAN KEEP THEIR WANGS IN THEIR PANTS!
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Oh its not the Men females are deviant whores!
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Cant protect everyone. Nature is cruel. Snowflakes on both sides now think they can save everyone just so they feel good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77668930


One side only cares to control others bodies. Not about what’s being tossed into the rubbish so much
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77286179


Women can always keep their legs closed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77665139


aND MEN CAN KEEP THEIR WANGS IN THEIR PANTS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77670003


That will never happen.

Sex is God's gift to humans. Refusing sex leads to war.
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Abortion is gay
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


Actually I've read that caring christians would go and try to rescue the abandoned babies they could find.

Oftentimes it ended up being to bury the baby lost to exposure, but often to raise and educate.
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In antiquity, men would sacrifice a lamb for their sins.

They would lay their hands on the sacrifice and confess their sins.

Then the priest would kill the lamb and sprinkle its blood on the alter.

The sight of a perfect lamb, bleeding out, staining its white wool, red, was meant to wake people up to the enormity of their sins.

The wages of sin is death

In most cases abortion is the aftermath of fornication. The death of a baby should be a wake up call to a wicked and adulterous generation.

In the short term the baby dies for its parents sins. However, God will not leave the guilty unpunished.
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In antiquity, men would sacrifice a lamb for their sins.

They would lay their hands on the sacrifice and confess their sins.

Then the priest would kill the lamb and sprinkle its blood on the alter.

The sight of a perfect lamb, bleeding out, staining its white wool, red, was meant to wake people up to the enormity of their sins.

The wages of sin is death

In most cases abortion is the aftermath of fornication. The death of a baby should be a wake up call to a wicked and adulterous generation.

In the short term the baby dies for its parents sins. However, God will not leave the guilty unpunished.
 Quoting: Visitor 2184614


Who came up with this stupid idea of crime/sin and "punishment"? Punishment changes nothing.

Sometimes a problem needs to be eliminated and offenders need to be sequestered or eliminated. Hurting them helps nobody - it's just extra work. It's also not compassionate.

If God is sufficiently displeased, the person is likely to either be eliminated or recycled. Punishment is pointless.
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Sin is a very serious matter, and is taken seriously by God, though men often make light of it.

It is not only a transgression of the law of God, but an attack on the great Lawgiver Himself, a revolt against God.

It is an infringement on the inviolable righteousness of God, which is the very foundation of His throne (Ps. 97:2), and an affront to the spotless holiness of God, which requires of us that we be holy in all manner of living (I Pet. 1:16).

In view of this it is but natural that God should visit sin with punishment.

In a word of fundamental significance He says: “I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,” Ex. 20:5.

The Bible abundantly testifies to the fact that God punishes sin both in this life and in the life to come.
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Sin is a very serious matter, and is taken seriously by God, though men often make light of it.

It is not only a transgression of the law of God, but an attack on the great Lawgiver Himself, a revolt against God.

It is an infringement on the inviolable righteousness of God, which is the very foundation of His throne (Ps. 97:2), and an affront to the spotless holiness of God, which requires of us that we be holy in all manner of living (I Pet. 1:16).

In view of this it is but natural that God should visit sin with punishment.

In a word of fundamental significance He says: “I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,” Ex. 20:5.

The Bible abundantly testifies to the fact that God punishes sin both in this life and in the life to come.
 Quoting: Visitor 2184614


The bible was written for people in ancient times. We are different people today.

God is God, and we know little of God.

We're learning slowly. I feel strongly that compassion is the proper feeling, and that punishment is simply man's view projected on to God.
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They would toss the new born into the rubbish pile and no one gave a shit. Do we really want a repeat of this?
 Quoting: ***Chad***


except for the fact that in modern western society that's illegal and the parent(s) can and will be criminally charged with

- failing to provide the necessities of life
and or
- child abandonment / endangerment
etc.

in ancient times they sacrificed their babies to pagan deities
eg. the fiery red hot outstretch arms of Molech

in some third world shit hole places they still throw their babies into the river

in the modern society we can be more civilized about it

adoption is one

do you know how fn long the wait list is to adopt a newborn?
 Quoting: Red John


Do you know how long older kids rot in those places and become victims of worse people, because they are passed over as couples want to 'trick' themselves into thinking that they had that new born? to train to their own whims....

Do any of you dumb fuck baby starved fucking idiots know that?

Your ignorance is of a magnitude I can't comprehend...
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Sin is a very serious matter, and is taken seriously by God, though men often make light of it.

It is not only a transgression of the law of God, but an attack on the great Lawgiver Himself, a revolt against God.

It is an infringement on the inviolable righteousness of God, which is the very foundation of His throne (Ps. 97:2), and an affront to the spotless holiness of God, which requires of us that we be holy in all manner of living (I Pet. 1:16).

In view of this it is but natural that God should visit sin with punishment.

In a word of fundamental significance He says: “I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,” Ex. 20:5.

The Bible abundantly testifies to the fact that God punishes sin both in this life and in the life to come.
 Quoting: Visitor 2184614


The bible was written for people in ancient times. We are different people today.

God is God, and we know little of God.

We're learning slowly. I feel strongly that compassion is the proper feeling, and that punishment is simply man's view projected on to God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22660330


And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
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I think we can look at the past few hundred years as an age of enlightenment on humanity. We've found that unique fingerprints are made early in life, heartbeats are detected very early, and we've seen (thanks to our previously neanderthalic ideas of life and abortion) how incredible it is that life originates in those early stages pregnancy.

Without the abortions of the past, and those children sacrificed, we would never know how stuck in the middle ages we've been when it comes to thinking of life only beginning at birth. It's a great new world of knowledge where we can leave our Neanderthal ideas of clubbing babies and now knowing that life exists in the womb, long before our pathetic brains used to be limited from perceiving life.
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The Book of Enoch tells us that these fallen angels taught men many things, and says that they "...showed the children of men … the smitings of the embryo in the womb, that it may pass away,..." (1Enoch 69:12)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75725610


Yep. It also tells the punishment that kasdeja got for teaching us that crap.
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