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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76682459 United States 05/26/2019 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Others gaslight in order to feel some sense of control in their own lives by making others depend on them. Gaslighting can also be part of an authoritarian personality. A person with an authoritarian personality tends to think in absolutes: Things are 100 percent right or 100 percent wrong. When a gaslighter thinks that they are not the problem and everyone else is, this is called having an ego-syntonic personality. It can be very difficult to get ego-syntonic gaslighters into treatment; they believe nothing is wrong with them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] I forgot to put the link last time....sorry about that... The difficulty is when all the inquisitors are in perfect agreement with each other where honest psychologists disagree, which leads back to my prior post. If just ONE of you could speak candidly, without talking about ends justifying means...but you can't. So the question about the morality of gaslighting itself isn't pertinent here and the thread really has no point. Unless it does, of course. The morality of gaslighting? There is no right or wrong...only wrong because it is classic psychological manipulation. Which I would agree that it is connected to some sort of mental illness such as depressive bipolar disorder. I have to find that article I was reading. Hold on... It's not really relevant. The key is to keep suggesting diagnoses so that the issue of illness remains 'live.' The purpose of psychology to the gaslighter is to manipulate, so the point of diagnosis is utterly lost here. Even speaking about it in a general moral sense is open to manipulation, as there is a whole rhetoric of false moral outrage, already perfected by the blackmailer. Look: what you do for a living is who you are. You're obviously not ashamed, and your choice of career predates any moral goals you'd like to falsely associate with it. A psychologist is primarily--get that? PRIMARILY--interested in the mental health of their patients, and as a result, doesn't use terms like addiction in a context which effectively turns it into a moral accusation. Just come out and say 'vice' or 'sin,' and watch as people beat a path for the exits. It's more than kind of sad on the level of the flunky. But should a person really feel sorry for them when even a fuzzy picture forms in their mind of the sort of person who would design their objectives for them? Someone who studies the mentally ill for the purposes of exacerbating mental illness rather than curing it? There's something that breaches the designation 'sick' here and goes to the level of 'evil'...not that you'll publicly use such language, mind you. Look I am not a psychiatrist...although I do study many subjects and this has been one of them. I want the gaslighter to get help and stop doing it but it seems very hard for them to do. They need to get to the root of the problem and you are not doing that on GLP ya know? lol I can't find the article but sociopaths and narcissists are classic gaslighters. I would have to say that bipolar disorder has a lot to do with it as well...because sociopaths and narcissists can have biploar traits... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76682459 United States 05/26/2019 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't want to even be a part of those threads. There are mentally unstable people controlling those threads and the only way they know how to communicate is by gaslighting whoever comes into their thread. Quoting: Dreamer 76682459 The OP's of these types of threads are ALWAYS the victims. Yet they make their own hell. Just wanted to put it out there. Don't fall for their "oh woe is me" or "poor me" act. They will pull you right down into their psychosis with them. Just move on to happier threads :) Public service announcement by Dreamer lol Emotional vampires. Sure...that's how it can feel. They feed on the people who enter yes... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76682459 United States 05/26/2019 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if a person is practicing gaslighting behavior without being consciously aware of it, they may get a “payoff” when their victim becomes more dependent on them. And then the cycle continues. The gaslighter also gets a “boost” when there are no checks and balances in place—no one holding them accountable for their behavior. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 If a gaslighter is not aware of their manipulative behavior, that does not make it acceptable—it is still pathological, and it is still their responsibility. [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] You guys specialize in projection. I'd like to see you write individual articles separated from one another. I mean I could, but I have other papers due...as a matter of fact I should be working on many things right now...but I don't particularly want to lol I don't really enjoy writing, but my professors have said that I can write really well. I just do it to get it over with and make sure I get an A lol My whole world comes crashing down if I don't get an A |
curry nosher User ID: 77364337 Nepal 05/26/2019 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are gaslighters aware of what they do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 Gaslighting is a pattern of manipulation tactics. The goal is to make the victim or victims question their own reality and depend on the gaslighter. Some gaslighters may have learned it from others—in many cases, their own parents. If a parent lives with addiction or other mental health issues, gaslighting may be used to manipulate a child. The ones who have pages and pages of gaslighting...they know what they do...but they are sick. Mostly yes, it is deliberate and some dumbass role play bs but maybe some is just idiots messin about not realising the damage it may do? Then a few, they are serious and targeting no doubt.... Saw this earlier and your thread reminded me of it. Thread: Well Lads, we did it!!! And personally, I haven't had this much fun in my entire life. Anyway, lots going on here atm, mostly shills but some clever ones using shitty tactics to stir shit up.... best ignored Thanks for the link curry...yes ignoring is the best option here. That's why I said move on to happier threads lol Be positive in life and positive things will come to you :) Your welcome bud, stay positive and screw em |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77677829 Australia 05/26/2019 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are gaslighters aware of what they do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 Gaslighting is a pattern of manipulation tactics. The goal is to make the victim or victims question their own reality and depend on the gaslighter. Some gaslighters may have learned it from others—in many cases, their own parents. If a parent lives with addiction or other mental health issues, gaslighting may be used to manipulate a child. The ones who have pages and pages of gaslighting...they know what they do...but they are sick. Good question. Gaslighters have a goal: get what they want, usually to be enabled with drugs and alcohol, to get a steady comfortable supply. And that addiction makes them manipulate to get their supplier confused and spun around so they can drug up or be drunk all the time. It is very sick manipulation. Covert. They lie to make sure that no one knows what they are doing. They employ "flying monkeys" to enforce their gaslighting so all their friends and relatives believe the supplier is crazy. Isolation technique. It's difficult to nail the gaslighter because they spin everyone around them so everyone is questioning everyone else and not the gaslighter. Deflection. You have a lot of knowledge about this subject. Thank you. There are also non drug users who just use gaslighting as a straight manipulation technique. Some don't even realize they are doing it. Some can only feel whole doing it and can't seem to stop. No matter what you show them. However they learned how to do this as a very young child. Yes sex addicts will groom people around them sexually. I agree, they subconsciously manipulate. In my experience there's always been an addiction. Unlike others who use substances to cope, like over-eating or self harm. Yes, I know first hand, he tried to kill me when I cut off his supply. And no one would believe it. I survived too, sadly many don't . |
curry nosher User ID: 77364337 Nepal 05/26/2019 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MissCleo Good question. Gaslighters have a goal: get what they want, usually to be enabled with drugs and alcohol, to get a steady comfortable supply. And that addiction makes them manipulate to get their supplier confused and spun around so they can drug up or be drunk all the time. It is very sick manipulation. Covert. They lie to make sure that no one knows what they are doing. They employ "flying monkeys" to enforce their gaslighting so all their friends and relatives believe the supplier is crazy. Isolation technique. It's difficult to nail the gaslighter because they spin everyone around them so everyone is questioning everyone else and not the gaslighter. Deflection. You have a lot of knowledge about this subject. Thank you. There are also non drug users who just use gaslighting as a straight manipulation technique. Some don't even realize they are doing it. Some can only feel whole doing it and can't seem to stop. No matter what you show them. However they learned how to do this as a very young child. Yes sex addicts will groom people around them sexually. I agree, they subconsciously manipulate. In my experience there's always been an addiction. Unlike others who use substances to cope, like over-eating or self harm. Yes, I know first hand, he tried to kill me when I cut off his supply. And no one would believe it. I survived too, sadly many don't . Me also, it is how i see it so easily as i guess do you guys Alas - i have also known a few lost forever to such things God Bless them! Last Edited by curry nosher on 05/26/2019 10:45 AM |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/26/2019 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real gas lighting can be very subtle Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77678262 Often it is accommodated by ridicule, defamation and libel, very commonly used in politics, it's basically legal abuse. Through the different types of media it can reach billions of people. And make Armageddon look like a Daft fairytale told to children. I could go on, but the most common abuse is the Stockholm syndrome where the victim/victims after severe abuse are lulled into a submissive behavior where the victim becomes emotionally dependant on the abuser, the abuser uses the good cop bad cop mentality, it also works on groups of people from a couple to millions. The indoctrinated victim finds that to avoid the abuse it simply becomes submissive and follows the orders of the abuser or even protects the abuser, the unbroken victims sees this and more becomes submissive to avoid further abuse. YES!!! Because most gaslighters are family members, spouses, fathers, people in leadership like pastors and trusted in the public but manipulating behind closed doors. |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/26/2019 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SureThingBuddy The difficulty is when all the inquisitors are in perfect agreement with each other where honest psychologists disagree, which leads back to my prior post. If just ONE of you could speak candidly, without talking about ends justifying means...but you can't. So the question about the morality of gaslighting itself isn't pertinent here and the thread really has no point. Unless it does, of course. The morality of gaslighting? There is no right or wrong...only wrong because it is classic psychological manipulation. Which I would agree that it is connected to some sort of mental illness such as depressive bipolar disorder. I have to find that article I was reading. Hold on... It's not really relevant. The key is to keep suggesting diagnoses so that the issue of illness remains 'live.' The purpose of psychology to the gaslighter is to manipulate, so the point of diagnosis is utterly lost here. Even speaking about it in a general moral sense is open to manipulation, as there is a whole rhetoric of false moral outrage, already perfected by the blackmailer. Look: what you do for a living is who you are. You're obviously not ashamed, and your choice of career predates any moral goals you'd like to falsely associate with it. A psychologist is primarily--get that? PRIMARILY--interested in the mental health of their patients, and as a result, doesn't use terms like addiction in a context which effectively turns it into a moral accusation. Just come out and say 'vice' or 'sin,' and watch as people beat a path for the exits. It's more than kind of sad on the level of the flunky. But should a person really feel sorry for them when even a fuzzy picture forms in their mind of the sort of person who would design their objectives for them? Someone who studies the mentally ill for the purposes of exacerbating mental illness rather than curing it? There's something that breaches the designation 'sick' here and goes to the level of 'evil'...not that you'll publicly use such language, mind you. Look I am not a psychiatrist...although I do study many subjects and this has been one of them. I want the gaslighter to get help and stop doing it but it seems very hard for them to do. They need to get to the root of the problem and you are not doing that on GLP ya know? lol I can't find the article but sociopaths and narcissists are classic gaslighters. I would have to say that bipolar disorder has a lot to do with it as well...because sociopaths and narcissists can have biploar traits... Gaslighters will NOT seek help. They will go to their grave with their disfunction. |
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MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/26/2019 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MissCleo Good question. Gaslighters have a goal: get what they want, usually to be enabled with drugs and alcohol, to get a steady comfortable supply. And that addiction makes them manipulate to get their supplier confused and spun around so they can drug up or be drunk all the time. It is very sick manipulation. Covert. They lie to make sure that no one knows what they are doing. They employ "flying monkeys" to enforce their gaslighting so all their friends and relatives believe the supplier is crazy. Isolation technique. It's difficult to nail the gaslighter because they spin everyone around them so everyone is questioning everyone else and not the gaslighter. Deflection. You have a lot of knowledge about this subject. Thank you. There are also non drug users who just use gaslighting as a straight manipulation technique. Some don't even realize they are doing it. Some can only feel whole doing it and can't seem to stop. No matter what you show them. However they learned how to do this as a very young child. Yes sex addicts will groom people around them sexually. I agree, they subconsciously manipulate. In my experience there's always been an addiction. Unlike others who use substances to cope, like over-eating or self harm. Yes, I know first hand, he tried to kill me when I cut off his supply. And no one would believe it. I survived too, sadly many don't . You know what... I believe that most women who seek abboortion find out after the fertilization that they've been manipulated and in a situation with a gaslighter. That gaslighter will kill that baby if born and then the wife/mate. (from personal experience, but I wanted that baby so bad that I lived with the gaslighter, big mistake). But I'm not going to start an abboortion debate because the trolls and gaslighters come out. Anyway, glad you survived too. I'm a strong advocate now. There are not enough support systems out there for women in need. Most Sheriff Departments have women's shelters but that's just temporary, after that not much support. |
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curry nosher User ID: 77364337 Nepal 05/26/2019 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It ranges from people acting on self interest and knowing they are in the wrong to those acting on others behalf thinking it is for the greater good and feel no shame. Either way, they care not for the victim and so to survive such abuse is in itself a triumph! The best way out from it is distance - take yourself far away from it, it will very rarely follow you - you should not have to of course but it is mostly the only real option |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 05/26/2019 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are gaslighters aware of what they do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 Gaslighting is a pattern of manipulation tactics. The goal is to make the victim or victims question their own reality and depend on the gaslighter. Some gaslighters may have learned it from others—in many cases, their own parents. If a parent lives with addiction or other mental health issues, gaslighting may be used to manipulate a child. The ones who have pages and pages of gaslighting...they know what they do...but they are sick. Good question. Gaslighters have a goal: get what they want, usually to be enabled with drugs and alcohol, to get a steady comfortable supply. And that addiction makes them manipulate to get their supplier confused and spun around so they can drug up or be drunk all the time. It is very sick manipulation. Covert. They lie to make sure that no one knows what they are doing. They employ "flying monkeys" to enforce their gaslighting so all their friends and relatives believe the supplier is crazy. Isolation technique. It's difficult to nail the gaslighter because they spin everyone around them so everyone is questioning everyone else and not the gaslighter. Deflection. You have a lot of knowledge about this subject. Thank you. There are also non drug users who just use gaslighting as a straight manipulation technique. Some don't even realize they are doing it. Some can only feel whole doing it and can't seem to stop. No matter what you show them. However they learned how to do this as a very young child. Why are you here now posting? Can a gaslighter be benevolent? |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/26/2019 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are gaslighters aware of what they do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 Gaslighting is a pattern of manipulation tactics. The goal is to make the victim or victims question their own reality and depend on the gaslighter. Some gaslighters may have learned it from others—in many cases, their own parents. If a parent lives with addiction or other mental health issues, gaslighting may be used to manipulate a child. The ones who have pages and pages of gaslighting...they know what they do...but they are sick. Good question. Gaslighters have a goal: get what they want, usually to be enabled with drugs and alcohol, to get a steady comfortable supply. And that addiction makes them manipulate to get their supplier confused and spun around so they can drug up or be drunk all the time. It is very sick manipulation. Covert. They lie to make sure that no one knows what they are doing. They employ "flying monkeys" to enforce their gaslighting so all their friends and relatives believe the supplier is crazy. Isolation technique. It's difficult to nail the gaslighter because they spin everyone around them so everyone is questioning everyone else and not the gaslighter. Deflection. You have a lot of knowledge about this subject. Thank you. There are also non drug users who just use gaslighting as a straight manipulation technique. Some don't even realize they are doing it. Some can only feel whole doing it and can't seem to stop. No matter what you show them. However they learned how to do this as a very young child. Why are you here now posting? Can a gaslighter be benevolent? Yes, fake benevolence, like Munchausens. So the gaslighter will physically (usually covertly) hurt someone just so they can take care of them... it's sick as shit. But forms a pattern of dependency. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71063173 Canada 05/26/2019 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate this new "gaslighting" term and refuse to understand it or use it. I've been around the block more than enough to know when someone is full of shit, which I take it to mean...... Quoting: Reader. gaslighters are just a subset of shit sacks, it's redundant unless you wish to specify a particular breed of shit sacker. carry on |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24259070 United States 05/26/2019 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Others gaslight in order to feel some sense of control in their own lives by making others depend on them. Gaslighting can also be part of an authoritarian personality. A person with an authoritarian personality tends to think in absolutes: Things are 100 percent right or 100 percent wrong. When a gaslighter thinks that they are not the problem and everyone else is, this is called having an ego-syntonic personality. It can be very difficult to get ego-syntonic gaslighters into treatment; they believe nothing is wrong with them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] I forgot to put the link last time....sorry about that... The difficulty is when all the inquisitors are in perfect agreement with each other where honest psychologists disagree, which leads back to my prior post. If just ONE of you could speak candidly, without talking about ends justifying means...but you can't. So the question about the morality of gaslighting itself isn't pertinent here and the thread really has no point. Unless it does, of course. The morality of gaslighting? There is no right or wrong...only wrong because it is classic psychological manipulation. Which I would agree that it is connected to some sort of mental illness such as depressive bipolar disorder. I have to find that article I was reading. Hold on... Could be a two way street. You may just be referring to one taking advantage of another w\ manipulation. Of course it is wrong, but there are many factors and few are above\ as advanced to NEVER taking advantage. For 'gaslighting' that person would be closer to, or an actual, sociopath. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75788364 United States 05/27/2019 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are gaslighters aware of what they do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 Gaslighting is a pattern of manipulation tactics. The goal is to make the victim or victims question their own reality and depend on the gaslighter. Some gaslighters may have learned it from others—in many cases, their own parents. If a parent lives with addiction or other mental health issues, gaslighting may be used to manipulate a child. The ones who have pages and pages of gaslighting...they know what they do...but they are sick. Psychopaths and narcissists are naturally good at getting people to gaslight others for them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75788364 United States 05/27/2019 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't want to even be a part of those threads. There are mentally unstable people controlling those threads and the only way they know how to communicate is by gaslighting whoever comes into their thread. Quoting: Dreamer 76682459 The OP's of these types of threads are ALWAYS the victims. Yet they make their own hell. Just wanted to put it out there. Don't fall for their "oh woe is me" or "poor me" act. They will pull you right down into their psychosis with them. Just move on to happier threads :) Public service announcement by Dreamer lol Would you post a link to one of those threads so we know exactly what you mean? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76412300 United States 05/27/2019 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't want to even be a part of those threads. There are mentally unstable people controlling those threads and the only way they know how to communicate is by gaslighting whoever comes into their thread. Quoting: Dreamer 76682459 The OP's of these types of threads are ALWAYS the victims. Yet they make their own hell. Just wanted to put it out there. Don't fall for their "oh woe is me" or "poor me" act. They will pull you right down into their psychosis with them. Just move on to happier threads :) Public service announcement by Dreamer lol Would you post a link to one of those threads so we know exactly what you mean? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77681450 United States 05/27/2019 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just in case you really don't know, here's the origin of term: "Gaslight is a 1944 American mystery-thriller film, adapted from Patrick Hamilton's 1938 play Gas Light, about a woman whose husband slowly manipulates her into believing that she is going insane" [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 76682459 United States 05/27/2019 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are gaslighters aware of what they do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 Gaslighting is a pattern of manipulation tactics. The goal is to make the victim or victims question their own reality and depend on the gaslighter. Some gaslighters may have learned it from others—in many cases, their own parents. If a parent lives with addiction or other mental health issues, gaslighting may be used to manipulate a child. The ones who have pages and pages of gaslighting...they know what they do...but they are sick. Psychopaths and narcissists are naturally good at getting people to gaslight others for them. Yep...they know how to play with other's emotions like that... |
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MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/28/2019 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate this new "gaslighting" term and refuse to understand it or use it. I've been around the block more than enough to know when someone is full of shit, which I take it to mean...... Quoting: Reader. Way more than someone being full of shit. Gaslighters intentionally manipulate. Not just with lies, gaslighters, will go above and beyond to deceive to get their way. Gaslighters have psychopath and sociopath tendencies. They spin stories to become your friend and make you laugh, they cozy up and gain your trust, then they feeble their way into your life to create a cocoon that restricts your movement. It's bizarre and frightening. Yet, no one would believe these people are devious. They are upstanding citizens, they are friends to many, they create a support system to feed themselves that is sick and twisted. Narcissist Personality Disorder (NPD) is common. Bipolars usually are alcohol and drug abusers, all related to gaslighting behavior. |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/28/2019 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate this new "gaslighting" term and refuse to understand it or use it. I've been around the block more than enough to know when someone is full of shit, which I take it to mean...... Quoting: Reader. gaslighters are just a subset of shit sacks, it's redundant unless you wish to specify a particular breed of shit sacker. carry on You must not have anything the gaslighter wants. Because while you are ignoring them they are out stalking others that they will drain of money, love, and anything else they can get their hands on. Weird how that works. Almost like the alpha male thing, where the sick gaslighters get the girl... when the non-sick ones really should. So there are lots of spawn out there with the same sickness, maybe it's like some weird population control. |
MissCleo User ID: 77082640 United States 05/28/2019 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Others gaslight in order to feel some sense of control in their own lives by making others depend on them. Gaslighting can also be part of an authoritarian personality. A person with an authoritarian personality tends to think in absolutes: Things are 100 percent right or 100 percent wrong. When a gaslighter thinks that they are not the problem and everyone else is, this is called having an ego-syntonic personality. It can be very difficult to get ego-syntonic gaslighters into treatment; they believe nothing is wrong with them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682459 [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] I forgot to put the link last time....sorry about that... The difficulty is when all the inquisitors are in perfect agreement with each other where honest psychologists disagree, which leads back to my prior post. If just ONE of you could speak candidly, without talking about ends justifying means...but you can't. So the question about the morality of gaslighting itself isn't pertinent here and the thread really has no point. Unless it does, of course. The morality of gaslighting? There is no right or wrong...only wrong because it is classic psychological manipulation. Which I would agree that it is connected to some sort of mental illness such as depressive bipolar disorder. I have to find that article I was reading. Hold on... Could be a two way street. You may just be referring to one taking advantage of another w\ manipulation. Of course it is wrong, but there are many factors and few are above\ as advanced to NEVER taking advantage. For 'gaslighting' that person would be closer to, or an actual, sociopath. Usually within a species there are not predators and prey. Humans are pack animals, but a gaslighter is a predator. Have you noticed how many murderers there are now? It's common. Back in the day Jack the Ripper was an oddity. Or was he? It's mostly women that get murdered, but would be interesting to know the origin. The Art of War is a pack animal tendency. But murder, predators are individual. Like I said, this is DNA, cannot be changed. A gaslighter will NEVER seek help to change. |