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"Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard

 
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I feel like now would be a time Iran might take some offensive action. Netanyahu is scrambling to finish forming his government even after he was granted an extended time period. May just stepped down so the UK is now in a transitioning period. The US more an more military assets every day in the region. I think that the time we see actual war in the region is here. Hopefully the United States doesn't get too aggressive and does not have it's finger on the trigger.
Doom on
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Talking with Washington is akin to talking with the devil, a senior official with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said, downplaying the US military presence in the region as the “weakest in history.”
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OK WE CAN SEND MORE...LOTS MORE
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Talking with Washington is akin to talking with the devil, a senior official with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said, downplaying the US military presence in the region as the “weakest in history.”
 Quoting: WW3NuclearApocalypse


This from a guy in a country which has the highest rate of heroin addicts and abuses and wraps their beautiful women in black sheets treats them like sex slaves and steals them from humanity...
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Do they feel that way about the negotiation with Obama for pallets of cash
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Pallots of their cash that was frozen.
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We don't negotiate with terrorists...
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Sure we do, look at Saudi Arabia.
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Do they feel that way about the negotiation with Obama for pallets of cash
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Pallots of their cash that was frozen.
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True, lets just get out of the middle east and let them hash it out.
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Before President Trump, I'd tend to agree. But with the President attempting to wipe away all the evil, corrupt XENOMORPHS dug in like an Alabama tick, I believe we have a real chance at peaceful negotiations and outcome.

Unless the fucking XENOMORPH bastages pull a False Flag pussy-move. A 'Deadman's Switch' of sorts.
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It is quite amusing when you think about it.

Trump and his supporters, are supporting the motherland of Islam in attacking one of their oldest enemies.
I would feel like a donkeys ass.
Of course, all presidents have been doing this.
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At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels.


And he said he would answer the phone.


It is the Iranians that won't talk.

I think they want war.
 Quoting: Adytum


No, talking is fruitless and full of deception.
We Americans already know our politicians are full of hot air and lies. They say one thing and do another.

There was a lot of talking with Saddam before we bombed his country and it did him a lot of good.
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Oh really?

How about the billions in gold, cash from Obummer!


They say whatever they want. Their voice is worthless, no honor.
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I have to agree with the obvious facts here
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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Iran is just pissed that their money-honey pot OBMAMA isn't in office any more.

Screw Iran
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Well, if you did not like the US government during the last 100 years you should really LOVE President Trump.

As he is battling those who made those choices back then.


Funny how that works. Iran should love President Trump. But then if Iran is full of anger
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At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels.


And he said he would answer the phone.


It is the Iranians that won't talk.

I think they want war.
 Quoting: Adytum


No, talking is fruitless and full of deception.
We Americans already know our politicians are full of hot air and lies. They say one thing and do another.

There was a lot of talking with Saddam before we bombed his country and it did him a lot of good.
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Maybe you should relocate to Tehran and you can fight for the "good guys" then.
"I like this place and could willingly waste my time in it."

William Shakespeare, As You Like It
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they're just groping around in the dark, feeling their way.
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Well, if you did not like the US government during the last 100 years you should really LOVE President Trump.

As he is battling those who made those choices back then.


Funny how that works. Iran should love President Trump. But then if Iran is full of anger
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77013656


if Iran is full of anger and religious radicalism, then they will hate the US no matter what the US does.


Really though, it's true. If one had a problem with the US government over the last several decades, then one agrees and is sided with President Trump.
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just one small tiny teeny thing about them saying this .....

NO MILITARY ON EARTH NEGOTIATES

so no one cares what they say
that's not their fucking JOB!
~THE IRANIAN~

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Talking with Washington is akin to talking with the devil, a senior official with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said, downplaying the US military presence in the region as the “weakest in history.”
 Quoting: WW3NuclearApocalypse


This from a guy in a country which has the highest rate of heroin addicts and abuses and wraps their beautiful women in black sheets treats them like sex slaves and steals them from humanity...
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Stop spreading lies. Have you been to Iran or do you just watch the MSM spread propaganda
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic.

BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists.
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The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic.

BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505


We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda.
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels.


And he said he would answer the phone.


It is the Iranians that won't talk.

I think they want war.
 Quoting: Adytum


No, talking is fruitless and full of deception.
We Americans already know our politicians are full of hot air and lies. They say one thing and do another.

There was a lot of talking with Saddam before we bombed his country and it did him a lot of good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77534636


Maybe you should relocate to Tehran and you can fight for the "good guys" then.
 Quoting: Adytum


The fight is between the Globalists and Iran.
I choose Pro American.
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The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic.

BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505


We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


This is what I was referring to:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

It was also my understanding that after the coup, rule under the shah was very bad, Islamic, and reversed much of the progress. This is what I meant by "civilized" -- laws and guaranteed freedoms, versus iron rule by a shah.

Is this incorrect?
~THE IRANIAN~

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The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic.

BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505


We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


This is what I was referring to:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

It was also my understanding that after the coup, rule under the shah was very bad, Islamic, and reversed much of the progress. This is what I meant by "civilized" -- laws and guaranteed freedoms, versus iron rule by a shah.

Is this incorrect?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505


Yes. Mohammad Mossadegh was a beloved figure in Iran. He broke off negotiations and denied the British any further involvement in Iran's oil industry because they had controlled Iran's oil for decades through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. CIA overthrow Mossadegh and restored power to Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran. He truly was a dictator. That's why the people fought back and overthrew him
The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think that it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly coloured, and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question - is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us. They say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride.' And we...kill those people. Ha ha ha. 'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride. SHUT HIM UP! -Bill Hicks
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Do they feel that way about the negotiation with Obama for pallets of cash
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Obama, also a war criminal, didn't give them US money, he gave them Iranian assets held abroad.
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Iran sentences women to be gang raped so taking the high moral ground isn't the best strategy for them.
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Iranian frozen assets in international accounts are calculated to be worth between $100 billion[1][2] and $120 billion.[3][4] Almost $1.973 billion of Iran's assets are frozen in the United States.[5] According to the Congressional Research Service, in addition to the money locked up in foreign bank accounts, Iran's frozen assets include real estate and other property. The estimated value of Iran's real estate in the U.S. and their accumulated rent is $50 million.[1] Besides the assets frozen in the U.S., some parts of Iran's assets are frozen around the world by the United Nations.

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The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic.

BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505


We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


This is what I was referring to:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

It was also my understanding that after the coup, rule under the shah was very bad, Islamic, and reversed much of the progress. This is what I meant by "civilized" -- laws and guaranteed freedoms, versus iron rule by a shah.

Is this incorrect?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505


Yes. Mohammad Mossadegh was a beloved figure in Iran. He broke off negotiations and denied the British any further involvement in Iran's oil industry because they had controlled Iran's oil for decades through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. CIA overthrow Mossadegh and restored power to Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran. He truly was a dictator. That's why the people fought back and overthrew him
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


No. The Shah was putting down Islamic radicals who wanted to take over. Jimmy Carter made a deal with the mullahs and stuck the ayatollahs in power but because carter lied to them they turned on the usa, seized the embassy and established ties with Russia.
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At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels.


And he said he would answer the phone.


It is the Iranians that won't talk.

I think they want war.
 Quoting: Adytum


Iran never negotiates with coercion. You cannot threaten any Iranian and expect them to engage. The way to do it is through respect, not through threats. U.S has literally put a knife around Iran's neck and asks for talks. It doesn't work that way.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


It never does, but what about Iran's Hezbollah and Hammas funded terror groups, still taking advantage of the weak.
Iran WAS a kingdom long time away where there were no muslims, now you are doomed not by the US but by ISRAEL, hurt them and you will disappear from the MAP
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At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels.


And he said he would answer the phone.


It is the Iranians that won't talk.

I think they want war.
 Quoting: Adytum


Iran never negotiates with coercion. You cannot threaten any Iranian and expect them to engage. The way to do it is through respect, not through threats. U.S has literally put a knife around Iran's neck and asks for talks. It doesn't work that way.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


Respect? You are kidding, right? When has that actually worked with Iran?
I shouldn’t say Iran, which includes the people of Iran. I mean the current leaders of Iran. You would be hard pressed to find any American that has issues with Iranians.

Your current leadership is hell bent on the destruction of America. It isn’t worthy of respect. Honesty, integrity and trustworthy is not the agenda of your leaders.

Let’s be honest here
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Talking with Washington is akin to talking with the devil, a senior official with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said, downplaying the US military presence in the region as the “weakest in history.”
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How can the US honestly Negotiate with a nation who's state religion of Islam mandates lying to unbelievers? Unless both parties are honest with each other no honest Negotiations can be achieved.





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