"Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73001453 United States 05/26/2019 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77527651 United States 05/26/2019 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Quoting: WW3NuclearApocalypse Talking with Washington is akin to talking with the devil, a senior official with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said, downplaying the US military presence in the region as the “weakest in history.” OK WE CAN SEND MORE...LOTS MORE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76130010 United States 05/26/2019 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Quoting: WW3NuclearApocalypse Talking with Washington is akin to talking with the devil, a senior official with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said, downplaying the US military presence in the region as the “weakest in history.” This from a guy in a country which has the highest rate of heroin addicts and abuses and wraps their beautiful women in black sheets treats them like sex slaves and steals them from humanity... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11376882 United States 05/26/2019 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard Before President Trump, I'd tend to agree. But with the President attempting to wipe away all the evil, corrupt XENOMORPHS dug in like an Alabama tick, I believe we have a real chance at peaceful negotiations and outcome. Unless the fucking XENOMORPH bastages pull a False Flag pussy-move. A 'Deadman's Switch' of sorts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77534636 United States 05/26/2019 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard It is quite amusing when you think about it. Trump and his supporters, are supporting the motherland of Islam in attacking one of their oldest enemies. I would feel like a donkeys ass. Of course, all presidents have been doing this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77534636 United States 05/26/2019 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels. Quoting: Adytum And he said he would answer the phone. It is the Iranians that won't talk. I think they want war. No, talking is fruitless and full of deception. We Americans already know our politicians are full of hot air and lies. They say one thing and do another. There was a lot of talking with Saddam before we bombed his country and it did him a lot of good. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77013656 United States 05/26/2019 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard Well, if you did not like the US government during the last 100 years you should really LOVE President Trump. As he is battling those who made those choices back then. Funny how that works. Iran should love President Trump. But then if Iran is full of anger |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77680933 United States 05/26/2019 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels. Quoting: Adytum And he said he would answer the phone. It is the Iranians that won't talk. I think they want war. No, talking is fruitless and full of deception. We Americans already know our politicians are full of hot air and lies. They say one thing and do another. There was a lot of talking with Saddam before we bombed his country and it did him a lot of good. Maybe you should relocate to Tehran and you can fight for the "good guys" then. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77013656 United States 05/26/2019 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard Well, if you did not like the US government during the last 100 years you should really LOVE President Trump. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77013656 As he is battling those who made those choices back then. Funny how that works. Iran should love President Trump. But then if Iran is full of anger if Iran is full of anger and religious radicalism, then they will hate the US no matter what the US does. Really though, it's true. If one had a problem with the US government over the last several decades, then one agrees and is sided with President Trump. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6457177 United States 05/26/2019 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Quoting: WW3NuclearApocalypse Talking with Washington is akin to talking with the devil, a senior official with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said, downplaying the US military presence in the region as the “weakest in history.” This from a guy in a country which has the highest rate of heroin addicts and abuses and wraps their beautiful women in black sheets treats them like sex slaves and steals them from humanity... Stop spreading lies. Have you been to Iran or do you just watch the MSM spread propaganda |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76370505 Canada 05/26/2019 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic. BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6457177 United States 05/26/2019 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505 BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists. We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77534636 United States 05/26/2019 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels. Quoting: Adytum And he said he would answer the phone. It is the Iranians that won't talk. I think they want war. No, talking is fruitless and full of deception. We Americans already know our politicians are full of hot air and lies. They say one thing and do another. There was a lot of talking with Saddam before we bombed his country and it did him a lot of good. Maybe you should relocate to Tehran and you can fight for the "good guys" then. The fight is between the Globalists and Iran. I choose Pro American. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76370505 Canada 05/26/2019 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505 BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists. We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda. This is what I was referring to: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] It was also my understanding that after the coup, rule under the shah was very bad, Islamic, and reversed much of the progress. This is what I meant by "civilized" -- laws and guaranteed freedoms, versus iron rule by a shah. Is this incorrect? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6457177 United States 05/26/2019 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505 BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists. We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda. This is what I was referring to: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] It was also my understanding that after the coup, rule under the shah was very bad, Islamic, and reversed much of the progress. This is what I meant by "civilized" -- laws and guaranteed freedoms, versus iron rule by a shah. Is this incorrect? Yes. Mohammad Mossadegh was a beloved figure in Iran. He broke off negotiations and denied the British any further involvement in Iran's oil industry because they had controlled Iran's oil for decades through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. CIA overthrow Mossadegh and restored power to Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran. He truly was a dictator. That's why the people fought back and overthrew him |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77673987 United States 05/26/2019 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505 BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists. We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda. This is what I was referring to: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] It was also my understanding that after the coup, rule under the shah was very bad, Islamic, and reversed much of the progress. This is what I meant by "civilized" -- laws and guaranteed freedoms, versus iron rule by a shah. Is this incorrect? Yes. Mohammad Mossadegh was a beloved figure in Iran. He broke off negotiations and denied the British any further involvement in Iran's oil industry because they had controlled Iran's oil for decades through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. CIA overthrow Mossadegh and restored power to Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran. He truly was a dictator. That's why the people fought back and overthrew him No. The Shah was putting down Islamic radicals who wanted to take over. Jimmy Carter made a deal with the mullahs and stuck the ayatollahs in power but because carter lied to them they turned on the usa, seized the embassy and established ties with Russia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76846320 United States 05/26/2019 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels. Quoting: Adytum And he said he would answer the phone. It is the Iranians that won't talk. I think they want war. Iran never negotiates with coercion. You cannot threaten any Iranian and expect them to engage. The way to do it is through respect, not through threats. U.S has literally put a knife around Iran's neck and asks for talks. It doesn't work that way. It never does, but what about Iran's Hezbollah and Hammas funded terror groups, still taking advantage of the weak. Iran WAS a kingdom long time away where there were no muslims, now you are doomed not by the US but by ISRAEL, hurt them and you will disappear from the MAP |
Dame User ID: 77047309 United States 05/26/2019 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard At least Trump more or less publicly admitted to trying to reach Iran by Swiss back channels. Quoting: Adytum And he said he would answer the phone. It is the Iranians that won't talk. I think they want war. Iran never negotiates with coercion. You cannot threaten any Iranian and expect them to engage. The way to do it is through respect, not through threats. U.S has literally put a knife around Iran's neck and asks for talks. It doesn't work that way. Respect? You are kidding, right? When has that actually worked with Iran? I shouldn’t say Iran, which includes the people of Iran. I mean the current leaders of Iran. You would be hard pressed to find any American that has issues with Iranians. Your current leadership is hell bent on the destruction of America. It isn’t worthy of respect. Honesty, integrity and trustworthy is not the agenda of your leaders. Let’s be honest here |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77272669 United States 05/26/2019 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Quoting: WW3NuclearApocalypse Talking with Washington is akin to talking with the devil, a senior official with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said, downplaying the US military presence in the region as the “weakest in history.” How can the US honestly Negotiate with a nation who's state religion of Islam mandates lying to unbelievers? Unless both parties are honest with each other no honest Negotiations can be achieved. |