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Message Subject "Negotiating with the US is like negotiating with the devil - bears no fruits" - Iranian Revolutionary Guard
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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The whole situation is ironic, really, in that Iran, at one time, had the most successful democracy in the entire middle east (until the USA destroyed it.) Fully civilized, female doctors, women driving cars, etc. The pictures of the era look idyllic.

BUT, the Iranians, democracy though they may have been, refused to kowtow to the Americans. So America replaced the democracy. With Islamists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505


We still have civilized people, female doctors and women driving. You have your facts wrong. You've mixed us up with Saudi Arabia, which in fact is your ally and women are banned driving and they are treated as slaves. It's all geopolitics, U.S doesnt want to bring democracy they want to destablize the mid east even more so they can sell more weapons to their allies which are funding ISIS and AL Qaeda.
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


This is what I was referring to:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

It was also my understanding that after the coup, rule under the shah was very bad, Islamic, and reversed much of the progress. This is what I meant by "civilized" -- laws and guaranteed freedoms, versus iron rule by a shah.

Is this incorrect?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370505


Yes. Mohammad Mossadegh was a beloved figure in Iran. He broke off negotiations and denied the British any further involvement in Iran's oil industry because they had controlled Iran's oil for decades through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. CIA overthrow Mossadegh and restored power to Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran. He truly was a dictator. That's why the people fought back and overthrew him
 Quoting: ~THE IRANIAN~


No. The Shah was putting down Islamic radicals who wanted to take over. Jimmy Carter made a deal with the mullahs and stuck the ayatollahs in power but because carter lied to them they turned on the usa, seized the embassy and established ties with Russia.
 
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