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Does Awareness create a quantum entanglement?

 
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Re: Does Awareness create a quantum entanglement?
I think about things like this quite often. Like what actually determines our reality?
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And that's the kind of GLPer I love to interact with, those who seek the answers to the important matters. Thanks for coming to the thread.

Regarding what actually determines our reality,You might find this CIA released under FOIA interesting, as I did. Is not that the ideas in the document are new or anything not already discussed, but the fact that the DoD researched its practical implications from the only perspective a DoD can (military), is mind boggling and somehow scary given the world we are currently experiencing.

[link to www.cia.gov (secure)]
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Thanks! Checking it out now..
 Quoting: eekers


Hope you are as mind baffled as I was by this, again not by the ideas themselves but because it was the effin military who researched this for "practical" purposes.
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For me the apex of such quantum entanglement is true love, you really merge body mind like no other level of communion.

Rare, beautiful, fleeting, but entanglement of the highest level...
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I hope you mean love to thy brethren and not romantic love. Romantic love is a posessive thing, true love is liberating and not ego enticing.
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In all things our perception of reality evolves only from what we already percieve to be true or not.

So in a sense we understand reality through a series of pre- subscrided filters.

These filters are formed from all aspects and beliefs , teachings and so on.

This creates, because we also are aware of aspects innumerable about existence that we do not know, a bubble of knowledge that we measure and quantify all other knowledge against.

Therefore we exist in a subset of a larger whole.

If it is a given that we exist within this limited perception and all science , religion and beliefs are bound by this , then the variable must always be included that all we know may well be skewed and at the least tainted.

Much like a whole planet of blind people describing a tree, with not one sighted person giving them a clue.

Now if we factor in quantum entanglement and mind manipulating matter into this soup , we can see how extremely careful these toddler steps into creating our own reality must be.

For what we create , we are bound by until if an when we are privy to a much greater whole.
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Hi there, how're things going "down under"?

Well you are doing a logic analysis and I agree within you set of dialectic. What you say is true but is a subset of much bigger truths.
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For me the apex of such quantum entanglement is true love, you really merge body mind like no other level of communion.

Rare, beautiful, fleeting, but entanglement of the highest level...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76130010


I hope you mean love to thy brethren and not romantic love. Romantic love is a posessive thing, true love is liberating and not ego enticing.
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I believe love can be all encompassing, not possessive, romantic and spiritual equally. A love of complete acceptance, and freedom, maybe you stay near, maybe you part, but the soul entanglement never dies and is ever present through telepathy and pure empathy for another.

You can be on the other side of the planet and it is as if you are side by side. Rare...
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In all things our perception of reality evolves only from what we already percieve to be true or not.

So in a sense we understand reality through a series of pre- subscrided filters.

These filters are formed from all aspects and beliefs , teachings and so on.

This creates, because we also are aware of aspects innumerable about existence that we do not know, a bubble of knowledge that we measure and quantify all other knowledge against.

Therefore we exist in a subset of a larger whole.

If it is a given that we exist within this limited perception and all science , religion and beliefs are bound by this , then the variable must always be included that all we know may well be skewed and at the least tainted.

Much like a whole planet of blind people describing a tree, with not one sighted person giving them a clue.

Now if we factor in quantum entanglement and mind manipulating matter into this soup , we can see how extremely careful these toddler steps into creating our own reality must be.

For what we create , we are bound by until if an when we are privy to a much greater whole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77685154


Hi there, how're things going "down under"?

Well you are doing a logic analysis and I agree within you set of dialectic. What you say is true but is a subset of much bigger truths.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The scientific mind loves to pull at the threads of the fabric of reality , the philosophical mind says , think about it, if you pull that thread you may just pull the hem down.

Just a thought.
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Re: Does Awareness create a quantum entanglement?
In all things our perception of reality evolves only from what we already percieve to be true or not.

So in a sense we understand reality through a series of pre- subscrided filters.

These filters are formed from all aspects and beliefs , teachings and so on.

This creates, because we also are aware of aspects innumerable about existence that we do not know, a bubble of knowledge that we measure and quantify all other knowledge against.

Therefore we exist in a subset of a larger whole.

If it is a given that we exist within this limited perception and all science , religion and beliefs are bound by this , then the variable must always be included that all we know may well be skewed and at the least tainted.

Much like a whole planet of blind people describing a tree, with not one sighted person giving them a clue.

Now if we factor in quantum entanglement and mind manipulating matter into this soup , we can see how extremely careful these toddler steps into creating our own reality must be.

For what we create , we are bound by until if an when we are privy to a much greater whole.
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Hi there, how're things going "down under"?

Well you are doing a logic analysis and I agree within you set of dialectic. What you say is true but is a subset of much bigger truths.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The scientific mind loves to pull at the threads of the fabric of reality , the philosophical mind says , think about it, if you pull that thread you may just pull the hem down.

Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77685154


No need to have that fear, studying reality if anything can avoid is pulling the hem down eventually by chance.
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One with psychic faculties of the mind can read some of your most innermost & personal thoughts &/or experiences as if you were a stone tablet with the story etched on it's surface. The question is, is your mind worth reading?



We are all One, & this is Quantum. You only think of yourself as separate, therefore you experience differently than I.
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Are you a body in a dimension of quantifiable matter or are you a consciousness manipulating a body emersed in matter?

If you are the latter , then manipulation is by this evidence an ability you have mastered to create the body.

Good story.
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That is a very interesting way you use to pose the problem. I think we are experiencing this reality collectively, we are all entangled, so we are all creating the reality together, even if we have no conscious clue of it.
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yes, here in the entanglement and quantum is where i am becomes aware of the greater I AM.....

It is NOW and should be that THE CORPORATE MAN is taking back control of the entanglement in which we find ourselves....

Because of LIES we are entangled yet unaware...

By TRUTH we will build a HOME of the HOUSE of quantum we entangled our self in.

When we become AWARE that i am the driver of the car, the seer of sky, the flyer of the plane, the thinker behind all these....

then.......NOW appears.....
 Quoting: yesterdays dust


You seem to be also a practicer of Advaita or whatever spiritual teaching to shed the illusion of separation and the false sense of self. No need to be cryptic (I understand you perfectly because I have seen those ideas before, but to some people they might sound like religious BS at first sight).
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seems as though you are a practitioner in talking about what you think an other thinks....

your perfect understanding of me 'seems' to be about advaita whatever that is....and not really me....even as you think what i seem to be.....

the cryptic nature of your breakdown about those false ideas 'seem' to be a strain on the reality of what i spoke to you about the subject of your thread....

if it was supposed by you that it would be natural to not respond to the subject of your thread from that which i know.....your supposition was inaccurate.....

please be clear and not cryptic as to what you prefer to have echoed back to you....

so that wasting time would be minimal .....
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In all things our perception of reality evolves only from what we already percieve to be true or not.

So in a sense we understand reality through a series of pre- subscrided filters.

These filters are formed from all aspects and beliefs , teachings and so on.

This creates, because we also are aware of aspects innumerable about existence that we do not know, a bubble of knowledge that we measure and quantify all other knowledge against.

Therefore we exist in a subset of a larger whole.

If it is a given that we exist within this limited perception and all science , religion and beliefs are bound by this , then the variable must always be included that all we know may well be skewed and at the least tainted.

Much like a whole planet of blind people describing a tree, with not one sighted person giving them a clue.

Now if we factor in quantum entanglement and mind manipulating matter into this soup , we can see how extremely careful these toddler steps into creating our own reality must be.

For what we create , we are bound by until if an when we are privy to a much greater whole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77685154


Hi there, how're things going "down under"?

Well you are doing a logic analysis and I agree within you set of dialectic. What you say is true but is a subset of much bigger truths.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


The scientific mind loves to pull at the threads of the fabric of reality , the philosophical mind says , think about it, if you pull that thread you may just pull the hem down.

Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77685154


No need to have that fear, studying reality if anything can avoid is pulling the hem down eventually by chance.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Perhaps I should be more precise .
Quantum experimentation as in Cern in particular takes the concept of the overlay of the observation and intent into possibly dangerous grounds.
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The very nature of space-time contains this effect. Mainly because space and time are composed of the same ether-esk something or other. Time IS space but it is this ether stuff when kinetic out from the infinite expanse, imploding down and inward toward the ONE infinitesimal Singularity (that is engaged in infinite velocity and with infinite angular diversity). Space IS time only in the non-kinetic activity, located at the infinite expanse and is the static "wake" caused by the Singularity infinite velocity with infinite angular diversity. This "wake" is the infinite expanse, pure space with no time created by the Singularity which is pure time with zero space. The Singularity is "fed" and created by space imploding out from the infinite expanse, down and inward, from everywhere, to everywhere where the Singularity exists.
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The question is, is your mind worth reading?

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Some minds change like the weather.
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I think for certain humans that focus ones energy inward and outward simultaneously that limitations can disappear.
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I think it is an ability that needs training to master, once one becomes aware of it. Perhaps some people do it intuitively, tho.
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I totally agree with you.
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Perhaps children do it without realizing, and some retain the ability even after growing.

I think is inherent to being human, but we have culturally forgotten it and all ancient knowledge of it got lost and/or so wrapped in religious and ritual paraphernalia that is now unreconigzable.
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To OP: Green for thee.

My Motto, if you care to call it that.

A Mind Blown, Is A Mind Shown.

Creates new energy to build this reality. Leads back to, What is the sound of one hand clapping.

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There is one solution about the quantum entanglement that I never saw anyone speak about. And this is not surprising actually. People are unconsciously materialists.

This solution is that there is NO SEPARATED particles. WE see them separated without them being so. Have you ever studied the CONDITIONS to reach to get such 'separated particles' in a 'bleached lab' for those entanglement experiments?

The problem is that one CAN NOT explain that phenomenon, and so many others such as the paranormal, UFOs and even conscience, without the FRACTAL TIME solution which, in fact, requests a HIGH LEVEL IQ to grasp it.

Before everyone reaches that IQ level, one will assume many other solutions, including supposedly 'spiritual' solutions...without the least true explanation.

To answer your question, OP, entanglement IS, because the universe is ONE, while you can become aware of it. This is the way you interact with the universe that makes this entanglement follow one way or another, good or bad: you locally influence the universe and the universe influences you far more in return because of the energy distribution.

When you point your conscience to one thing, or a person, you not only influence that thing, or person, but all those related to that thing, or person, but with a lower level of energy. In return, all those things, or persons, influence you the way you firstly influenced the primary thing, or person.
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Very insightful thoughts my friend, thanks for chipping in. I am aware of the interconnectedness of the whole and deep inside I know this is true. And thus the entanglement is only apparently magical when In reality is absolute because all is one, literally.

As you brought this up, I think you will also find interesting and intriguing the Gateway Process document that Pragmatist shared in other post. A 1983 DoD FOIA released document talking about the implications of a holographic universe and how to snap in and out of it really made my day and I am sure you will find it very interesting.
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Thanks for your invitation to read 'Analysis and Assessment of Gateway Process' (Department of the Army).

I read it and found it very interesting. Unfortunately, there are scientific flaws in it and some definitions are not correct.

I have experienced the Robert Monroe's techniques when I was a military myself in the 80's. And it works very well for the out-of-body experiments. Those experiences are, however, limited to a certain realm of the reality.

But the scientific processes described in this work (Gateway Process) are not the clear image of what is going on, even if some clues are of utmost importance such as the 'clicking out' phase (while the related diagram doesn't reflect the explanations).

Again, the fractal time concept is, by far, a better view of the Reality. While the 'Gateway Process' requests experiencers with years of self-induced trainings, with random results, the fractal time concept allows to build machines that automatically trigger those states to get far better results, what the aliens have reached since eons.
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You could have crashed that plane with your thought, negative thought generates negative perspectives. In Northern Transylvania where i grew up, people were obsessed with "evil eye",many would wear something red or kabbalah string especially on new born babies. They are placing a bucket of flowers tightened with a red ribbon on top of new houses under construction, red ribbons around animals neck like cows horses sheep. I thought we are primitive there, but is well known all over the wold. Years after i start reading about about quantum entanglement and the role of the observer in generating this reality i believe this two are connected and well known since ancient Biblical time. It's believed that somehow the wavelength of color red is jamming the destructive effect of evil eye, or the negative entities hacking into certain people consciousness or eyes to cause harm. I read about many famous people movie stars, Madonna,Putin,Clinton wearing kabbalah string, they know something.
If the observer collapses the wave function turning quantum waves into material world ,are the blind people denied the role in making their own reality , perhaps cursed for their damaging rolle? Or our other 4 senses have somehow same effect ?!
I imagine this world made out of some kind of quantum foam floating around or raw data , like joining a computer game and we change it as we drive though life like this commercial.

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Interesting theories.

Also possibly related, How does possible "prey" get a sense of danger when a predator is around? A "sixth sense" if you will.

There is much more to life and this universe than we can possibly imagine.
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Perhaps intuition is 6th sense byproduct of timeless consciousness, tunes to future analyzing negative outcomes from a sum of present decisions/ possibilities ;
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I remember watching this BBC documentary about animal birds hypnosis defined on Wikipedia as
" Altered state theories see hypnosis as an altered state of mind or trance, marked by a level of awareness different from the ordinary state of consciousness."
I'm wondering if the predator mesmerizes the pray or fear makes them temporarily leave this realm.

"Hypnosis is a human condition involving focused attention, reduced peripheral awareness, and an enhanced capacity to respond to suggestion. The term may also refer to an art, skill, or act of inducing hypnosis.

There are competing theories explaining hypnosis and related phenomena. Altered state theories see hypnosis as an altered state of mind or trance, marked by a level of awareness different from the ordinary state of consciousness." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

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Hermit 48, so the evil eye is also a cloaked form of mind control by a remote awareness suppressor?
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You could have crashed that plane with your thought, negative thought generates negative perspectives. In Northern Transylvania where i grew up, people were obsessed with "evil eye",many would wear something red or kabbalah string especially on new born babies. They are placing a bucket of flowers tightened with a red ribbon on top of new houses under construction, red ribbons around animals neck like cows horses sheep. I thought we are primitive there, but is well known all over the wold. Years after i start reading about about quantum entanglement and the role of the observer in generating this reality i believe this two are connected and well known since ancient Biblical time. It's believed that somehow the wavelength of color red is jamming the destructive effect of evil eye, or the negative entities hacking into certain people consciousness or eyes to cause harm. I read about many famous people movie stars, Madonna,Putin,Clinton wearing kabbalah string, they know something.

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Does your theory apply to these women wearing red?

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What are your thoughts on this, My Fellow GLPers???
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If you haven't already read Michael Talbot's The Holographic Universe, you would likely enjoy it...

Once I was meditating and reached a point of quiet awareness, and a face arose in front of me. The face smiled, then laughed, then vanished. I have never seen that face before, nor has it ever appeared again.
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Did this face have an appearance of almost like a mask, where the facial features are not very well defined? And did this occur in some type of etheric medium that resembles a uniform field of smokey colored energy?

hmm
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What one thinks they are doesn't exist,it's and illusion made up of thought and a little memory!
There is only one thing here, absolutely everything else is an appearance in&to awareness.

You can easily prove it to your self, simply look when thought arises, it becomes aware to awareness right. If it didn't it wouldn't have an existence.
So are you the thought or the awareness?
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"In time, you will come to realize that the center from which you watch disturbance cannot get disturbed. If it appears disturbed, just notice who is noticing that disturbance. Eventually it will stop. You will then be able to rest back into the depths of your being while watching your mind and heart create their last throes of turmoil. When you reach that point, you will understand what it means to be transcendent. Awareness transcends what it is aware of. It is as separate as light is from what it shines upon. You are consciousness, and you can free yourself from all of this by relaxing behind it." ~ The Untethered Soul (Michael Singer)
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Lots of great input people!!! I really like the discussion and points of view. Been busy today and just able to keep an eye on the thread, but by all means keep going!!!

Also been out of green and have been giving as it gets replenished.

Love you guys!!!
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Just added this to my favorites, good stuff!
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot
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Almost 99% of the mass of the human body is made up of six elements: oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. Only about 0.85% is composed of another five elements: potassium, sulfur, sodium, chlorine, and magnesium. All 11 are necessary for life.

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Simplest component of a complex substance





elementem "rudiment, first principle, matter in its most basic form"
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Do you want to write that in simpler speech?

What are you asking?

I think it possible you were attracted to the plane , because you seem to fly and to know something about instructing pilots.

I think it possible your attention helped the pilot right himself.

We all know this instinctively— but we are superstitious as pilgrims and also think we can influence dice by blowing in them and Simon.
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*superstitious as pidgeons.
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It’s pronounced Pocahonky
Or Pokeyhonkus
Or Pokey
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