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Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice

 
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Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
That's all I know for now, does Hospice mean he's not long for this world? All I know is Hospice has always meant somewhat short time frame, to keep them comfortable. He was a very important man to me growing up.
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
Yes, Hospice is the final stages. They send them home to be with family to say their goodbyes and share last days of love.

Hospice is wonderful. They provide comfort for the family, they bathe the patient, they provide pain meds. They counsel all the way until the end.

But Hospice doesn't crowd the family and gives them space for quiet time and prayers and spending the final moments to make it a peaceful experience of natural passing.
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You are going to have a heart attack tomorrow, but you won't make it to hospice. hf
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
Yes, Hospice is the final stages. They send them home to be with family to say their goodbyes and share last days of love.

Hospice is wonderful. They provide comfort for the family, they bathe the patient, they provide pain meds. They counsel all the way until the end.

But Hospice doesn't crowd the family and gives them space for quiet time and prayers and spending the final moments to make it a peaceful experience of natural passing.
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Thank you Miss Cleo.
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
That's all I know for now, does Hospice mean he's not long for this world? All I know is Hospice has always meant somewhat short time frame, to keep them comfortable. He was a very important man to me growing up.
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Hospice

Mean's its over God Rest his Soul!
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
its usually the last place to visit family
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Sorry to hear. My Uncle had a stroke a year and a half ago and hasn't been home since. Can't walk, can't speak, can't eat, can't drink. His entire existence consists of laying in a bed or sitting in his wheelchair. Don't get my wrong, I am glad he is still with us, but for him -- the alternative might have been more merciful.
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
Would you like a video or a scripture?
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Prayers for you and your family OP.

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Prayers for you and your family sodbuster

Sorry about your uncle

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Prayers for you and your family OP.

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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
Don’t be pessimistic.

My dad was back and forth between hospice and rehab several times. My understanding is hospice is palliative/ comfort care when they don’t expect you to recover, but if you would benefit from rehabilitation therapy they move you to that.

It might depend on insurance.

The move to hospice means they aren’t going to push him to recover or interfere with a natural death.
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
If he had a bleeding stroke, they tend to stroke again within three days. Don't know about the blood clot type but there's swelling either way. It doesn't sound like he has long. Is he unconscious? Anyway, Hospice is great. They should be able to tell you what to expect.
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
sad for your situation.

however, there are many hospice sites that mention the patients that go into full or partial recovery and return home for many years.

Hospice is a best guess, just in case scenario.

They should inform more people of this, as it is an awesome service.
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
A friend of mine had a stroke. 3 days in the hospital, then 4 or was it 6 weeks in a stroke ward. then back home and lots of trouble walking. other complications were involved. physical therapy was a complete waste. he completely gave up on that hospital system. and found another system.

New doc says he has arthritus in his back. They went in with arthoscopy and removed it. Last I saw him he was walking better. I really need to give him a call....

Good luck OP.....
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
I came close to a stroke some years ago.
First symptom-kind of dizzy every once in
a while. I lived with it till someone said
I should have a doctor check my carotid
arteries. I did and he heard a whooshing
noise. A scan indicated 70% blockage on one
side and 50% on the other.
I started taking a supplement to dissolve
the blockage. Hospital cleaned out the 70%
side and I cleaned out the 50% side with
the supplement syrup.( Cardio Cocktail )
So, you should see your doctor when you
feel something is not "right".
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
That's all I know for now, does Hospice mean he's not long for this world? All I know is Hospice has always meant somewhat short time frame, to keep them comfortable. He was a very important man to me growing up.
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I'm sorry honey, it sounds like you are close with your uncle. How lucky you are.

Hospice is not always a short time frame. My mom was on hospice for a few months before she passed, then had an aunt that was on it so long (5 years) that they kicked her out lol. Ended up in a nice nursing home.
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The hospice staff are angels.
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Does anyone have experience volunteering at hospice? How was it?
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They gave him a flu shot just to be sure...
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
Hospice kills them. Here's the routine. Give them oxygen, morphine, and no fluids. They dehydrate and die. First a lot of loose skins cells, then completely incapacitated, finally a death rattle when lungs fill with the remaining fluid in their bodies like a climber on Everest with pulmonary edema. Then they will die within 24 hours.

Hospice was designed to kill you while you don't even notice like a frog in a pot of water that keeps getting warmer but it doesn't jump out. Say goodbye to your uncle. I will pray for you and yours.
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That's all I know for now, does Hospice mean he's not long for this world? All I know is Hospice has always meant somewhat short time frame, to keep them comfortable. He was a very important man to me growing up.
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Hello Sodbuster

Sorry to hear of your Uncles stroke.
What kind of stroke was it and has been the debilitating effect so far. Also How old is he?

Under most circumstances being admitted into a hospice is usually the last stages as MC said. Its a place of quality comfort and a secure environment to administer various end of life drugs.

Its likely in your uncles case he may have had a severe stroke with the prognosis of having another perhaps fatal one; sadly it may well be a decision indicating its short term terminal.

If you are able, be on alert as unlike some `passings` where the passage of time is longer; the prognosis on the vast majority of severe stroke victims is substantialy shorter.

Look after yourself and your close ones..... Keep us informd..
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Stick with the GP`s advice..... That being said...

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do not take NONSTEROIDAL ANTI-INFLAMATORY DRUGS.

ASPRIN, IBUPROFEN, NAPROXEN, DICLOFENAC, ADVIL, MOTRIN
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These have proven to Increase the risk of complications when there is a fever or infection (bacterial)


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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
Hospice kills them. Here's the routine. Give them oxygen, morphine, and no fluids. They dehydrate and die. First a lot of loose skins cells, then completely incapacitated, finally a death rattle when lungs fill with the remaining fluid in their bodies like a climber on Everest with pulmonary edema. Then they will die within 24 hours.

Hospice was designed to kill you while you don't even notice like a frog in a pot of water that keeps getting warmer but it doesn't jump out. Say goodbye to your uncle. I will pray for you and yours.
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Hospice kills them. Here's the routine. Give them oxygen, morphine, and no fluids. They dehydrate and die. First a lot of loose skins cells, then completely incapacitated, finally a death rattle when lungs fill with the remaining fluid in their bodies like a climber on Everest with pulmonary edema. Then they will die within 24 hours.

Hospice was designed to kill you while you don't even notice like a frog in a pot of water that keeps getting warmer but it doesn't jump out. Say goodbye to your uncle. I will pray for you and yours.
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Don't get me wrong though, they won't feel it. It's better than dying in agony. But once they start that morphine it's just a matter of time.
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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
Hospice kills them. Here's the routine. Give them oxygen, morphine, and no fluids. They dehydrate and die. First a lot of loose skins cells, then completely incapacitated, finally a death rattle when lungs fill with the remaining fluid in their bodies like a climber on Everest with pulmonary edema. Then they will die within 24 hours.

Hospice was designed to kill you while you don't even notice like a frog in a pot of water that keeps getting warmer but it doesn't jump out. Say goodbye to your uncle. I will pray for you and yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408772


Hospice kills them. Here's the routine. Give them oxygen, morphine, and no fluids. They dehydrate and die. First a lot of loose skins cells, then completely incapacitated, finally a death rattle when lungs fill with the remaining fluid in their bodies like a climber on Everest with pulmonary edema. Then they will die within 24 hours.

Hospice was designed to kill you while you don't even notice like a frog in a pot of water that keeps getting warmer but it doesn't jump out. Say goodbye to your uncle. I will pray for you and yours.
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Don't get me wrong though, they won't feel it. It's better than dying in agony. But once they start that morphine it's just a matter of time.
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Morphine can and is delivered in different ways and at different amounts. In most cases its more than just morphine but a cocktail of other drugs.
The crucial one to look for is the `syringe driver` or a ` continuous subcutaneous infusion` device. This will be the last method before passing.
Soap box time.....and reminder.

IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP.


Stick with the GP`s advice..... That being said...

====================================================​====
do not take NONSTEROIDAL ANTI-INFLAMATORY DRUGS.

ASPRIN, IBUPROFEN, NAPROXEN, DICLOFENAC, ADVIL, MOTRIN
====================================================​====

These have proven to Increase the risk of complications when there is a fever or infection (bacterial)


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Re: Uncle had a stroke today an they sent him home with Hospice
If one of my uncles had a stroke I would probably laugh hard.
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Im so sorry. I'm praying for him and your whole family.
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Praying for you, your uncle and the family.

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Praying for you, your uncle and the family.

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Play his favorite music, talk to him, never talk about his prognosis in front of the patient. They can hear you. If it is the final gather the family so he can say goodbye. When the can't come let them say goodbye using the cell phone speaker.

Find a naturopath to make house calls.

With hope you can fight the stroke or cancer.

My favorite new hospice question is "have you been in hospice before".

I love hospices, working there is a hard sad life, they need thanks and joy.

They told me about Costco coffins and if cremating go directly to the crematorium instead of paying $3000 extra for you local funeral home to drive them there.

A year of mourning council for the family comes with most hospice.





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