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The Harvard Experiment That May Have Triggered the Unabomber

 
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Interesting...

Seems like the government is putting us all through this experiment at the moment...

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"According to CBS, who interviewed Alston Chase, author of Harvard and the Unabomber: The Education of an American Terrorist:

Chase says in Murray’s study, Kaczynski and 21 other students were asked to write an essay on their philosophy of life.

“Then they’re told that after they’ve written it that they will meet with another undergraduate student and they will debate it – have a discussion about their philosophies of life,” says Chase. “In fact – they were being duped.”



After the essays were turned in, Murray brought each one of the participants into a brightly lit room and sat them in front of a one-way mirror with electrodes on their heads. Then, instead of having them debate with a fellow participant, a law student was brought in to systematically destroy their personal philosophies. As CBS reports:

“A law school student who had been prepped to tear into the student and to mock and ridicule their ideas and their values. To get them as angry as they possibly could,” says Chase. “After they had done this film footage… they brought the students back… and showed them the film footage. Showed them being humiliated. They were rubbing salt into the wounds…”

Some experts believe this experiment caused Kaczynski to fear and hate technology and psychologists, later prompting his killing spree. Although, other experts believe people over-emphasize the experiment as the direct cause of his diabolical crimes, citing that Kaczynski suffered from other issues.
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Yeah, so, the Unibomber was created by an immoral government experiment/not surprised in the least.
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I always knew it was something like this...didn't know it was a law student they brought in to do the damage...that alone would have triggered me....I would beat the shit,out of the guy until he chose a better way to,live his life....
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Yep, continuing the MKultra experiment all along. This is the same type of thing they did during those years, trying to create a mind controlled persons. They creation hit back.
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God saw it all

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Read it

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God saw it all

Hebrews 4:12

Read it

Know it

Understand it
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The unabomber didn't have access to the fun toys.
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How the CIA Broke America

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".. it's the same way they tried to break Ted Kaczynski. The bad news is it looks like the CIA purposely introduced sadistic, self-hating collectivists into the deepest of the deep state. The good news is that after 75 years of trying they have yet to succeed."

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Really, thats giving law students too much credit. Even the best ones are WAY too green to "destroy" anything.
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How the CIA Broke America

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".. it's the same way they tried to break Ted Kaczynski. The bad news is it looks like the CIA purposely introduced sadistic, self-hating collectivists into the deepest of the deep state. The good news is that after 75 years of trying they have yet to succeed."


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76782929


bump

22:25 min mark.

216. Some leftists may seem to oppose technology, but they will oppose it only so long as they are outsiders and the technological system is controlled by non-leftists. If leftism ever becomes dominant in society, so that the technological system becomes a tool in the hands of leftists, they will enthusiastically use it and promote its growth. In doing this they will be repeating a pattern that leftism has shown again and again in the past. When the Bolsheviks in Russia were outsiders, they vigorously opposed censorship and the secret police, they advocated self-determination for ethnic minorities, and so forth; but as soon as they came into power themselves, they imposed a tighter censorship and created a more ruthless secret police than any that had existed under the tsars, and they oppressed ethnic minorities at least as much as the tsars had done. In the United States, a couple of decades ago when leftists were a minority in our universities, leftist professors were vigorous proponents of academic freedom, but today, in those of our universities where leftists have become dominant, they have shown themselves ready to take away from everyone else’s academic freedom. (This is “political correctness.”) The same will happen with leftists and technology: They will use it to oppress everyone else if they ever get it under their own control.
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It is far more likely part of his training as an agent of deception. Unabomber was an intelligence psy-op conducted against the American people by the evil and un-constitutional CIA.
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I was involved in some "tame" and ethics-board approved research on a state university campus.

We were essentially locking people in a box, frightening the fuck out of them, and studying their reactions.

It was all very clinical, clinical setting, but that's what it was.

So, one day I was sitting there collecting the data from the various recording devices and sensors and talking to one of the lead researchers.

I asked if she was concerned about the long term or lasting ramifications to the emotional health and well-being of the test subjects.

Her answer was it was just research, so they wouldn't be harmed.

And this was some of the milder on-campus research I ever witnessed. I've seen much, much worse research with student participants in the social sciences building of an ivy league where the ethics board either weren't involved or were fucking daft.

The asshat "professionals" in the field should all be lined up against the wall and shot.

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Interesting...

Seems like the government is putting us all through this experiment at the moment...

[link to modernnotion.com]

"According to CBS, who interviewed Alston Chase, author of Harvard and the Unabomber: The Education of an American Terrorist:

Chase says in Murray’s study, Kaczynski and 21 other students were asked to write an essay on their philosophy of life.

“Then they’re told that after they’ve written it that they will meet with another undergraduate student and they will debate it – have a discussion about their philosophies of life,” says Chase. “In fact – they were being duped.”



After the essays were turned in, Murray brought each one of the participants into a brightly lit room and sat them in front of a one-way mirror with electrodes on their heads. Then, instead of having them debate with a fellow participant, a law student was brought in to systematically destroy their personal philosophies. As CBS reports:

“A law school student who had been prepped to tear into the student and to mock and ridicule their ideas and their values. To get them as angry as they possibly could,” says Chase. “After they had done this film footage… they brought the students back… and showed them the film footage. Showed them being humiliated. They were rubbing salt into the wounds…”

Some experts believe this experiment caused Kaczynski to fear and hate technology and psychologists, later prompting his killing spree. Although, other experts believe people over-emphasize the experiment as the direct cause of his diabolical crimes, citing that Kaczynski suffered from other issues.
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM


I may be using this not quite right..but I believe this is intended to induce a state called 'Tabula rasa'..or 'blank slate'.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


IOW.. a way of destroying someones fundamental beliefs so that anything can be built on top of it.

Not much different than say something like intense Basic training to create 'soldiers'..


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Yep, continuing the MKultra experiment all along. This is the same type of thing they did during those years, trying to create a mind controlled persons. They creation hit back.
 Quoting: hankie


Absolutely.

He a temperamental sensitive genius.

To have those Harvard Psych-Despots manipulate the man is a crime.

This is the Cover-Story for what they did to him.

The truth about what they did is far more heinous.

Harvard is pretty well-known for producing some of the most morally, ethically, absent people in the history of the U.S.

A Psychopath recruitment / training facility.
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Interesting...

Seems like the government is putting us all through this experiment at the moment...

[link to modernnotion.com]

"According to CBS, who interviewed Alston Chase, author of Harvard and the Unabomber: The Education of an American Terrorist:

Chase says in Murray’s study, Kaczynski and 21 other students were asked to write an essay on their philosophy of life.

“Then they’re told that after they’ve written it that they will meet with another undergraduate student and they will debate it – have a discussion about their philosophies of life,” says Chase. “In fact – they were being duped.”



After the essays were turned in, Murray brought each one of the participants into a brightly lit room and sat them in front of a one-way mirror with electrodes on their heads. Then, instead of having them debate with a fellow participant, a law student was brought in to systematically destroy their personal philosophies. As CBS reports:

“A law school student who had been prepped to tear into the student and to mock and ridicule their ideas and their values. To get them as angry as they possibly could,” says Chase. “After they had done this film footage… they brought the students back… and showed them the film footage. Showed them being humiliated. They were rubbing salt into the wounds…”

Some experts believe this experiment caused Kaczynski to fear and hate technology and psychologists, later prompting his killing spree. Although, other experts believe people over-emphasize the experiment as the direct cause of his diabolical crimes, citing that Kaczynski suffered from other issues.
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM


I may be using this not quite right..but I believe this is intended to induce a state called 'Tabula rasa'..or 'blank slate'.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


IOW.. a way of destroying someones fundamental beliefs so that anything can be built on top of it.

Not much different than say something like intense Basic training to create 'soldiers'..


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Essentially..a manipulated and unexpected state of cognitive dissonance, in a clinical setting, with blind participants, delivered by those whom were trusted..

Betrayal is difficult to get over.

If 'vengeance' is God's..

Reminds..


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Yeah there was some external tampering but ultimately he was 'triggered' by his own genius and foresight.

Sucks to get a hard peek at the future like that.

His actions many have been questionable, but his overall thesis was dead on, regardless.
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kinda like facebook and twitter


Think about it

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PsyOp from the get-go. Many decades of this truly pure evil from the big intel machine.

Horrifying.
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Yeah there was some external tampering but ultimately he was 'triggered' by his own genius and foresight.

Sucks to get a hard peek at the future like that.

His actions many have been questionable, but his overall thesis was dead on, regardless.
 Quoting: SyncAsFunk


What was his thesis?


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In a nutshell.

"It is not possible to make a LASTING compromise between technology and freedom, because technology is by far the more powerful social force and continually encroaches on freedom through REPEATED compromises."

~ Theodore Kaczynski


Some Will. Some won't. So.......
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Ted was right about everything and this is a diversion.
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In a nutshell.

"It is not possible to make a LASTING compromise between technology and freedom, because technology is by far the more powerful social force and continually encroaches on freedom through REPEATED compromises."

~ Theodore Kaczynski


 Quoting: SyncAsFunk


I see.

Great song..


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I was involved in some "tame" and ethics-board approved research on a state university campus.

We were essentially locking people in a box, frightening the fuck out of them, and studying their reactions.

It was all very clinical, clinical setting, but that's what it was.

So, one day I was sitting there collecting the data from the various recording devices and sensors and talking to one of the lead researchers.

I asked if she was concerned about the long term or lasting ramifications to the emotional health and well-being of the test subjects.

Her answer was it was just research, so they wouldn't be harmed.

And this was some of the milder on-campus research I ever witnessed. I've seen much, much worse research with student participants in the social sciences building of an ivy league where the ethics board either weren't involved or were fucking daft.

The asshat "professionals" in the field should all be lined up against the wall and shot.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Yeah, a very mild-tempered friend of mine was cast as a 'terrorist' in a hospital hostage drill where his mom worked.
During the drill they pushed that kid's buttons until he turned into a crazy person,getting hostile and angry which is not his normal character. When it was over he was horrified that they had managed to get him to act like that just by provoking him.
That was over a decade ago, just imagine how good they've gotten at that shit by now?
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It is far more likely part of his training as an agent of deception. Unabomber was an intelligence psy-op conducted against the American people by the evil and un-constitutional CIA.
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They hauled his shack across the USA and placed it in the FBI trophy shack.

Psyop .

Once again the vaunted FBI could not solve shit.

After publishing the "manifesto " his brother somehow recognized his writing style...…..

Fifteen years, nothing.

This organization needs scrutiny.


Im sure that most agents are true, but it seems that the fish is rotting from the head.
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Interesting...

Seems like the government is putting us all through this experiment at the moment...

[link to modernnotion.com]

"According to CBS, who interviewed Alston Chase, author of Harvard and the Unabomber: The Education of an American Terrorist:

Chase says in Murray’s study, Kaczynski and 21 other students were asked to write an essay on their philosophy of life.

“Then they’re told that after they’ve written it that they will meet with another undergraduate student and they will debate it – have a discussion about their philosophies of life,” says Chase. “In fact – they were being duped.”



After the essays were turned in, Murray brought each one of the participants into a brightly lit room and sat them in front of a one-way mirror with electrodes on their heads. Then, instead of having them debate with a fellow participant, a law student was brought in to systematically destroy their personal philosophies. As CBS reports:

“A law school student who had been prepped to tear into the student and to mock and ridicule their ideas and their values. To get them as angry as they possibly could,” says Chase. “After they had done this film footage… they brought the students back… and showed them the film footage. Showed them being humiliated. They were rubbing salt into the wounds…”

Some experts believe this experiment caused Kaczynski to fear and hate technology and psychologists, later prompting his killing spree. Although, other experts believe people over-emphasize the experiment as the direct cause of his diabolical crimes, citing that Kaczynski suffered from other issues.
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM


I may be using this not quite right..but I believe this is intended to induce a state called 'Tabula rasa'..or 'blank slate'.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


IOW.. a way of destroying someones fundamental beliefs so that anything can be built on top of it.

Not much different than say something like intense Basic training to create 'soldiers'..


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Yep. I was the subject of this as a youth and teen under the cover of the gifted program.
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Interesting...

Seems like the government is putting us all through this experiment at the moment...

[link to modernnotion.com]

"According to CBS, who interviewed Alston Chase, author of Harvard and the Unabomber: The Education of an American Terrorist:

Chase says in Murray’s study, Kaczynski and 21 other students were asked to write an essay on their philosophy of life.

“Then they’re told that after they’ve written it that they will meet with another undergraduate student and they will debate it – have a discussion about their philosophies of life,” says Chase. “In fact – they were being duped.”



After the essays were turned in, Murray brought each one of the participants into a brightly lit room and sat them in front of a one-way mirror with electrodes on their heads. Then, instead of having them debate with a fellow participant, a law student was brought in to systematically destroy their personal philosophies. As CBS reports:

“A law school student who had been prepped to tear into the student and to mock and ridicule their ideas and their values. To get them as angry as they possibly could,” says Chase. “After they had done this film footage… they brought the students back… and showed them the film footage. Showed them being humiliated. They were rubbing salt into the wounds…”

Some experts believe this experiment caused Kaczynski to fear and hate technology and psychologists, later prompting his killing spree. Although, other experts believe people over-emphasize the experiment as the direct cause of his diabolical crimes, citing that Kaczynski suffered from other issues.
 Quoting: MogwaiHunter PM


I may be using this not quite right..but I believe this is intended to induce a state called 'Tabula rasa'..or 'blank slate'.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


IOW.. a way of destroying someones fundamental beliefs so that anything can be built on top of it.

Not much different than say something like intense Basic training to create 'soldiers'..


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Seer777


Yep. I was the subject of this as a youth and teen under the cover of the gifted program.
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kinda like facebook and twitter


Think about it
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