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why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?

 
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why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
Because the moon is a projection on the firmament dome and no one ever went there.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
Because the moon is a projection on the firmament dome and no one ever went there.
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but where is the projector?
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
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They did. They left lots of stuff. If you have coordinates and a strong enough laser there are reflective panels you can hit. They use it to measure the projections distance.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
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They did. They left lots of stuff. If you have coordinates and a strong enough laser there are reflective panels you can hit. They use it to measure the projections distance.
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lol you guys are rich

do you know what proof is?
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
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What about the reflector they put up there that you can bounce the laser off of
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
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What about the reflector they put up there that you can bounce the laser off of
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Have you or anyone you know got a laser powerful enough to do this?

I mean...everyone must have one...otherwise how could you prove its thers?
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
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What about the reflector they put up there that you can bounce the laser off of
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Have you or anyone you know got a laser powerful enough to do this?

I mean...everyone must have one...otherwise how could you prove its thers?
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plus don't lasers bounce off any objects anyway? it's light, light bounces, or last I heard.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
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What about the reflector they put up there that you can bounce the laser off of
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Pretty easy to accomplish that feat with a rover or probe. Several countries have accomplished that.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553


What about the reflector they put up there that you can bounce the laser off of
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Pretty easy to accomplish that feat with a rover or probe. Several countries have accomplished that.
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Links??
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
They did.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553


What about the reflector they put up there that you can bounce the laser off of
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77377605


Pretty easy to accomplish that feat with a rover or probe. Several countries have accomplished that.
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Links??
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What do you mean links. It is well known info. Do your own research. Russian, China and Japan have all landed rovers on the moon I believe. Israel tried unsuccessfully fairly recently.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
They did.
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so then they must have hidden their proof is what you're saying
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
They did.
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so then they must have hidden their proof is what you're saying
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No. It's clearly visible with even a cheap telescope. They even left laser reflectors that they bounce off of to take measurements. Do you even science bro?
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553


What about the reflector they put up there that you can bounce the laser off of
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77377605


Have you or anyone you know got a laser powerful enough to do this?

I mean...everyone must have one...otherwise how could you prove its thers?
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Honestly.. EVERY college with a astrophysics 101 course has one.. And do it.. EVER semester.

Go sign up.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
They did.
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so then they must have hidden their proof is what you're saying
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No. It's clearly visible with even a cheap telescope. They even left laser reflectors that they bounce off of to take measurements. Do you even science bro?
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You don't know what you are talking about. Do some more science bro, and come back when you have discovered a clue.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
They did.
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so then they must have hidden their proof is what you're saying
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No. It's clearly visible with even a cheap telescope. They even left laser reflectors that they bounce off of to take measurements. Do you even science bro?
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what's clearly visible? define your pronouns

we've already mentioned the reflectors, big zero there
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
I mean, all they had to do was leave like a radio transmitter, beeping out a signal for everybody to hear.

how hard could that have been?

they took all that equipment there to the moon anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553


What about the reflector they put up there that you can bounce the laser off of
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77377605


Pretty easy to accomplish that feat with a rover or probe. Several countries have accomplished that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76280681


Links??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77713131


Russia did it. Look up the Lunohod rover program of the 1970's.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The Americans did leave seismometers there on all Apollo missions that successfully landed. They sent data back to earth via a radio link. And the last couple had spectrometers to study the atmosphere they tell us doesn't exist there.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
They did.
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so then they must have hidden their proof is what you're saying
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No. It's clearly visible with even a cheap telescope. They even left laser reflectors that they bounce off of to take measurements. Do you even science bro?
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You don't know what you are talking about. Do some more science bro, and come back when you have discovered a clue.
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epiclol
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The Americans did leave seismometers there on all Apollo missions that successfully landed. They sent data back to earth via a radio link. And the last couple had spectrometers to study the atmosphere they tell us doesn't exist there.
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so no proof though. just stuff that's still there.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
Mythbusters full episode.
go to 42:13
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
Mythbusters full episode.
go to 42:13
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rofl
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The Americans did leave seismometers there on all Apollo missions that successfully landed. They sent data back to earth via a radio link. And the last couple had spectrometers to study the atmosphere they tell us doesn't exist there.
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so no proof though. just stuff that's still there.
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Stuff that was left there might constitute proof if they ever decided it was valuable scientifically to revisit the landing sites and assess the condition of the artifacts and landers allegedly left all over the place. Despite the wealth of knowledge about materials science that this would provide space explorers, nasa in fifty years has never deemed such fact finding as worth their time. Yet we are supposed to entrust them with many billions more to recreate the wheel with new missions. What a laugh.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The lunar buggy's tire tracks are still visible.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The lunar buggy's tire tracks are still visible.
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Can you tell from that evidence whether it is a moon buggy or a rover that left such tracks.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The Americans did leave seismometers there on all Apollo missions that successfully landed. They sent data back to earth via a radio link. And the last couple had spectrometers to study the atmosphere they tell us doesn't exist there.
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so no proof though. just stuff that's still there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553


Stuff that was left there might constitute proof if they ever decided it was valuable scientifically to revisit the landing sites and assess the condition of the artifacts and landers allegedly left all over the place. Despite the wealth of knowledge about materials science that this would provide space explorers, nasa in fifty years has never deemed such fact finding as worth their time. Yet we are supposed to entrust them with many billions more to recreate the wheel with new missions. What a laugh.
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I might just settle for a picture of the flag from a telescope here on earth. posters above seem to have said it's possible to see even though Astromut has said it's not.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The Americans did leave seismometers there on all Apollo missions that successfully landed. They sent data back to earth via a radio link. And the last couple had spectrometers to study the atmosphere they tell us doesn't exist there.
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so no proof though. just stuff that's still there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553


Stuff that was left there might constitute proof if they ever decided it was valuable scientifically to revisit the landing sites and assess the condition of the artifacts and landers allegedly left all over the place. Despite the wealth of knowledge about materials science that this would provide space explorers, nasa in fifty years has never deemed such fact finding as worth their time. Yet we are supposed to entrust them with many billions more to recreate the wheel with new missions. What a laugh.
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I might just settle for a picture of the flag from a telescope here on earth. posters above seem to have said it's possible to see even though Astromut has said it's not.
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The flag is clearly visible. As a metaphor of our times it has turned completely white. The landing site and rover are also clearly visible.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The Americans did leave seismometers there on all Apollo missions that successfully landed. They sent data back to earth via a radio link. And the last couple had spectrometers to study the atmosphere they tell us doesn't exist there.
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so no proof though. just stuff that's still there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553


Stuff that was left there might constitute proof if they ever decided it was valuable scientifically to revisit the landing sites and assess the condition of the artifacts and landers allegedly left all over the place. Despite the wealth of knowledge about materials science that this would provide space explorers, nasa in fifty years has never deemed such fact finding as worth their time. Yet we are supposed to entrust them with many billions more to recreate the wheel with new missions. What a laugh.
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I might just settle for a picture of the flag from a telescope here on earth. posters above seem to have said it's possible to see even though Astromut has said it's not.
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It is not possible. The atmospheric distortions alone would make resolving any relatively small objects into complete mush.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
The Americans did leave seismometers there on all Apollo missions that successfully landed. They sent data back to earth via a radio link. And the last couple had spectrometers to study the atmosphere they tell us doesn't exist there.
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so no proof though. just stuff that's still there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553


Stuff that was left there might constitute proof if they ever decided it was valuable scientifically to revisit the landing sites and assess the condition of the artifacts and landers allegedly left all over the place. Despite the wealth of knowledge about materials science that this would provide space explorers, nasa in fifty years has never deemed such fact finding as worth their time. Yet we are supposed to entrust them with many billions more to recreate the wheel with new missions. What a laugh.
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I might just settle for a picture of the flag from a telescope here on earth. posters above seem to have said it's possible to see even though Astromut has said it's not.
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It is not possible. The atmospheric distortions alone would make resolving any relatively small objects into complete mush.
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Re: why didn't they just leave proof on the moon that they went?
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so no proof though. just stuff that's still there.
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Stuff that was left there might constitute proof if they ever decided it was valuable scientifically to revisit the landing sites and assess the condition of the artifacts and landers allegedly left all over the place. Despite the wealth of knowledge about materials science that this would provide space explorers, nasa in fifty years has never deemed such fact finding as worth their time. Yet we are supposed to entrust them with many billions more to recreate the wheel with new missions. What a laugh.
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I might just settle for a picture of the flag from a telescope here on earth. posters above seem to have said it's possible to see even though Astromut has said it's not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71416553

The flag is clearly visible. As a metaphor of our times it has turned completely white. The landing site and rover are also clearly visible.
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The images you are talking about were taken from an lunar orbiting probe if my memory serves. A rover is not the same as a manned craft and vehicle, and I don't think there is sufficient detail to determine exactly what is being imaged.





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