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Simple Question: if you do not believe in God, why don't you?

 
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Lol, the God of the bible.

The one true God and creator.

The one that formed you in your mothers womb and breathed life into you and everyone else that hates Him.

Just hold your breath. Its about the same thing as hating God.

Just blind defiance and foolishness.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~



I think you misread my question.

I'll rephrase it.

Is your god the only god who has ever been fervently attacked?
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There are no other 'gods'.

Just the one true God and creator of all life.

He is the only one who is real and sovereign, which is why He and His followers are attacked so relentlessly.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~



A brief read into the histories of man's religious persecutions against other men and their gods might help expand your own spiritual awakening.

Or not.

At any rate, Enjoy the Ride!

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Feel the hate?

I don't believe or disbelieve in God but I don't hate you for believing.

For me I have listened to The Bible up to Psalms. I find it interesting. I need to listen to the rest of it.

I have a hard time believing though because of all the bad stuff I see.

Take my Grandma for example. She believed in God and now she has alzheimer's. She can't even wipe herself properly.

Or take my mother...she has always been abusive. I have asked God to change her but she is still the same.

I also find it odd how people thank God...God didn't destroy my house in that tornado. However little Ms Betty house down the street is fucked...I guess she didn't pray hard enough.
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Snails and stars do not expect fairness and neither should we.

However, God does intervene from time to time.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Sorry but I've never heard a snail or a star talk.

Also it still doesn't explain why God would turn a woman from a functional adult into someone who has to be watched in the bathroom because she can't wipe and will play in her own feces. A woman who went to church on on a regular basis.

Or why God would let a woman abuse her children on a daily basis.

If God does intervene from time to time then why do you think he doesn't all the time?

Ms Betty must have been a bitch that's why her prayers didn't work.
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I watched my grandfather go through alzheimers for 12 years.

Every single day my grandmother would go to his care home and feed him, take care of him, change his socks make sure he had clean clothes.

I often asked God why.

This was one of the best men I'd ever known, a complete gentleman, WWII vet and Godly man.

I always asked why, I couldn't understand.

Until I saw the changes in my grandma. Loving him, taking care of him everyday, even though he didn't remember her.

Then I knew.

God send us difficulties in the ones we love so that it brings out the best in us.

Its all for our good.

Praise God, it is right to praise Him!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~




I.e. god punishes you by allowing pain on others, which in turn purifies you... Stockholm syndrome anyone?
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Dude God didn't create life. What happened is a million volts of lightening shocked a mud pie and the frying atoms coincidentally got rearranged into smoldering cells which came alive, formed Amoebas which mutated upward into fish, which also happened to mutate upward into Mud skippers which also remarkably mutated upward into lizards, then gorillas which went extinct because they mutated upward into humans. Get some science would ya? Now check it out.

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Sounds like you are reading out dates WashMyAssTowers...
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Feel the hate?

I don't believe or disbelieve in God but I don't hate you for believing.

For me I have listened to The Bible up to Psalms. I find it interesting. I need to listen to the rest of it.

I have a hard time believing though because of all the bad stuff I see.

Take my Grandma for example. She believed in God and now she has alzheimer's. She can't even wipe herself properly.

Or take my mother...she has always been abusive. I have asked God to change her but she is still the same.

I also find it odd how people thank God...God didn't destroy my house in that tornado. However little Ms Betty house down the street is fucked...I guess she didn't pray hard enough.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


Snails and stars do not expect fairness and neither should we.

However, God does intervene from time to time.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Sorry but I've never heard a snail or a star talk.

Also it still doesn't explain why God would turn a woman from a functional adult into someone who has to be watched in the bathroom because she can't wipe and will play in her own feces. A woman who went to church on on a regular basis.

Or why God would let a woman abuse her children on a daily basis.

If God does intervene from time to time then why do you think he doesn't all the time?

Ms Betty must have been a bitch that's why her prayers didn't work.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


I watched my grandfather go through alzheimers for 12 years.

Every single day my grandmother would go to his care home and feed him, take care of him, change his socks make sure he had clean clothes.

I often asked God why.

This was one of the best men I'd ever known, a complete gentleman, WWII vet and Godly man.

I always asked why, I couldn't understand.

Until I saw the changes in my grandma. Loving him, taking care of him everyday, even though he didn't remember her.

Then I knew.

God send us difficulties in the ones we love so that it brings out the best in us.

Its all for our good.

Praise God, it is right to praise Him!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yet it doesn't bring out the best in all people. It leaves some people feeling frustrated and some wanting the person to pass away. They really don't want the person to pass they just want the person to be their old self. They don't want to be cleaning feces all day long and asked the same question 500 times a day.
Ain't no sunshine when she's gone...ain't no borderline psychotic emotional outbursts either.

Some days you just have to create your own sunshine.

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Atheists-materialists find it difficult to believe in anything they can’t measure, see or touch. They scoff at anything supernatural even being possible. Some minds just work that way, it takes all kinds to make a world.
 Quoting: 3643297


LOL this is incredibly silly.

Not all atheists think alike. We don't have one particular dogma that we adhere to other than not believing in a diety.

Many of us, myself included, believe in a spirit world. I personally believe our spirit is eternal, individual as opposed to a collective spirit, and that this life is just one of countless lives that we've lived and will live. I just don't believe there is a diety. And there really doesn't have to be in order to exist.

We are self-existent. We didn't need a creator. I don't have the answer how we came into existence, but then again, NO ONE else does either. It's all just speculation.

If I were to find out there is a god, I would have to admit I was incorrect. I would also expect a god to be benevolent and forgive those of us who didn't believe. I would suspect that such an entity would not be so egotistical as to harm us for not believing. If we were punished for our beliefs, that would mean he's a true mental case. If he were vindictive and brutal, then he isn't worth worshiping anyway.

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Snails and stars do not expect fairness and neither should we.

However, God does intervene from time to time.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Sorry but I've never heard a snail or a star talk.

Also it still doesn't explain why God would turn a woman from a functional adult into someone who has to be watched in the bathroom because she can't wipe and will play in her own feces. A woman who went to church on on a regular basis.

Or why God would let a woman abuse her children on a daily basis.

If God does intervene from time to time then why do you think he doesn't all the time?

Ms Betty must have been a bitch that's why her prayers didn't work.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


I watched my grandfather go through alzheimers for 12 years.

Every single day my grandmother would go to his care home and feed him, take care of him, change his socks make sure he had clean clothes.

I often asked God why.

This was one of the best men I'd ever known, a complete gentleman, WWII vet and Godly man.

I always asked why, I couldn't understand.

Until I saw the changes in my grandma. Loving him, taking care of him everyday, even though he didn't remember her.

Then I knew.

God send us difficulties in the ones we love so that it brings out the best in us.

Its all for our good.

Praise God, it is right to praise Him!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~




I.e. god punishes you by allowing pain on others, which in turn purifies you... Stockholm syndrome anyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77315642


Not allowing, comforting, caring, loving during the pain.

As my mother was dying my atheist brother who swore he would take care of her, ignored her most basic needs like a warm pair of socks while he sold off all of her belongings.
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Sorry but I've never heard a snail or a star talk.

Also it still doesn't explain why God would turn a woman from a functional adult into someone who has to be watched in the bathroom because she can't wipe and will play in her own feces. A woman who went to church on on a regular basis.

Or why God would let a woman abuse her children on a daily basis.

If God does intervene from time to time then why do you think he doesn't all the time?

Ms Betty must have been a bitch that's why her prayers didn't work.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine



Maybe she was...

God only knows...
 Quoting: Masiro®


HAHA so I guess you think I deserved to be abused when I was a child. I guess I was a baby bitch and deserved it.

1doh1
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My beatings for the stuff I did as a child were legendary...
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We aren't talking about doing bad things and being punished. I'm talking about being called a bitch for accidently spilling a soda. Getting a hair brush stuck in my hair because I was trying to learn to style and instead of my mother cutting my hair she ripped a chunk out. Those aren't the same and you know it.
Ain't no sunshine when she's gone...ain't no borderline psychotic emotional outbursts either.

Some days you just have to create your own sunshine.

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OP ...do this. Point to your God and shake hands with him. Can you do that? No ...you can't. I only believe in things I can see, touch feel and hear. That's real life.

With that said... if you enjoy praying and following good principles that helps others then by all means do it.
 Quoting: Joe in JT 75049243


But without the Word of Truth, would we still know and even practice it?

Through the Practice of such Principals, by Christians, and every other Belief system [following suit of Christianity / Judaism, the oldest such system in history] others follow suit, naturally, whether they claim Christianity or not.


So it does ALL go back to the God of Abraham.

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Atheists-materialists find it difficult to believe in anything they can’t measure, see or touch. They scoff at anything supernatural even being possible. Some minds just work that way, it takes all kinds to make a world.
 Quoting: 3643297


LOL this is incredibly silly.

Not all atheists think alike. We don't have one particular dogma that we adhere to other than not believing in a diety.

Many of us, myself included, believe in a spirit world. I personally believe our spirit is eternal, individual as opposed to a collective spirit, and that this life is just one of countless lives that we've lived and will live. I just don't believe there is a diety. And there really doesn't have to be in order to exist.

We are self-existent. We didn't need a creator. I don't have the answer how we came into existence, but then again, NO ONE else does either. It's all just speculation.

If I were to find out there is a god, I would have to admit I was incorrect. I would also expect a god to be benevolent and forgive those of us who didn't believe. I would suspect that such an entity would not be so egotistical as to harm us for not believing. That would mean he's a true mental case. If he were vindictive and brutal, then he isn't worth worshiping anyway.
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I agree. Colleague of mine has been doing ground breaking research on the human consciousness at the quantum level. If testing validates the theory, then the next question is, where do we go, and what are we actually living in? Their is more to life then what your eyes simply observe.
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You can ask "what if" questions all day but I believe in real life.

I'm an engineer, I build things and looking at the complexity in our world and our universe, how it all meshes together in perfect harmony I KNOW there is a creator.

Period.

This world works too well for there not to be a designer.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


When I was a child I studied "fractals" it was the greatest proof for me that God existed and designed everything.
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So how do you answer the question of ‘who created God’? I guess you would say that God has always existed. Then surely the eastern mystical traditions are more mature in suggesting that everything has always existed and you and I and the universe was not created. God plays his role as the purifier of consciousness.
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Who created God?

Honestly I would love to use the stock answer But...

This time I won't.

Let me just say that this...

What if the big bang Theory was God destroying one universe to create another one through a black/white Hole because the original one was corrupted to the point where he could not save it?
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Why bother creating another one? Why not just purify this one? Like in the eastern mystical teachings of Golden age (heaven), Silver, Copper and iron (hell) ages and then purification back to the Golden age.
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Snails and stars do not expect fairness and neither should we.

However, God does intervene from time to time.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Sorry but I've never heard a snail or a star talk.

Also it still doesn't explain why God would turn a woman from a functional adult into someone who has to be watched in the bathroom because she can't wipe and will play in her own feces. A woman who went to church on on a regular basis.

Or why God would let a woman abuse her children on a daily basis.

If God does intervene from time to time then why do you think he doesn't all the time?

Ms Betty must have been a bitch that's why her prayers didn't work.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


I watched my grandfather go through alzheimers for 12 years.

Every single day my grandmother would go to his care home and feed him, take care of him, change his socks make sure he had clean clothes.

I often asked God why.

This was one of the best men I'd ever known, a complete gentleman, WWII vet and Godly man.

I always asked why, I couldn't understand.

Until I saw the changes in my grandma. Loving him, taking care of him everyday, even though he didn't remember her.

Then I knew.

God send us difficulties in the ones we love so that it brings out the best in us.

Its all for our good.

Praise God, it is right to praise Him!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yet it doesn't bring out the best in all people. It leaves some people feeling frustrated and some wanting the person to pass away. They really don't want the person to pass they just want the person to be their old self. They don't want to be cleaning feces all day long and asked the same question 500 times a day.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


You're forgetting Grace.

Maybe some part of my grandma wished he would just pass, but she couldn't just stop caring for him.

Every. Single. Day. For 12 years.

Its love and grace and perserverance that wins the day.

Some are born to it, some are not.

Some learn it later on.

Its a process, each person is unique.
A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once.

Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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I absolutely believe in what you think of as God, however, every religion from Christianity to Judaism through Islam is completely made up by humans and not God. You know what you get from God?

This, you're there, that's it, rest is up to you.

The ideas in religion are so disgusting I am ceaselessly amazed people want to believe such blatant sickness. From kill the infidels, to God sending Jesus to suffer and die for you. Just wow, people.

So yes God, no Christianity, Islam, Shiva, Bible, Torah, and on and fucking on. All religions are manmade and bullshit.
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This!!!!


It isn't about the fact that you believe in the fairy tale. You believe in the intervention of the divine because we don't understand enough about how this reality operates.

It isn't simple innocence or naivety. Those religious tenets corrupt the soul.

I wonder, to think you are better than others simply because you were born into the tribe, how does that impact the soul? To have superstitions imposed upon you because of population control must do some wonderful things for the development of society.

What if the simple beliefs of religion, that cross over between realities is allowed, corrupts the human soul? Maybe it is not just innocent. Maybe it is not just harmless ideology.
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OP ...do this. Point to your God and shake hands with him. Can you do that? No ...you can't. I only believe in things I can see, touch feel and hear. That's real life.

With that said... if you enjoy praying and following good principles that helps others then by all means do it.
 Quoting: Joe in JT 75049243


But without the Word of Truth, would we still know and even practice it?

Through the Practice of such Principals, by Christians, and every other Belief system [following suit of Christianity / Judaism, the oldest such system in history] others follow suit, naturally, whether they claim Christianity or not.


So it does ALL go back to the God of Abraham.

hell_boy
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You mean the laws/codex of Hammurabi that "Moses" plagarized from? Lol..
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Even the demons believe in God and know who Jesus is. Trusting him with your life is truly believing, we need to take up our cross daily and crucify the flesh.

John 3:16 isn't as simple as it comes across. In the original Greek, the word "believe" is actually “Pisteuo”.

“Pisteuo” is a total trust and abandonment of oneself upon the object of the belief. There is no English word that is equivalent in meaning to the word “pisteuo”. The closest word that the translators could find for the word “pisteuo” is “believe”. So they translated “pisteuo” as “believe”. But the word “believe” on its own does not convey what “pisteuo” actually means. “Pisteuo” describes an action that is like sitting on a chair – you put your entire weight on the chair. You abandon yourself and rest totally on the chair – in complete trust. “Pisteuo” also conveys the idea of yielding or surrendering.

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19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
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Sorry but I've never heard a snail or a star talk.

Also it still doesn't explain why God would turn a woman from a functional adult into someone who has to be watched in the bathroom because she can't wipe and will play in her own feces. A woman who went to church on on a regular basis.

Or why God would let a woman abuse her children on a daily basis.

If God does intervene from time to time then why do you think he doesn't all the time?

Ms Betty must have been a bitch that's why her prayers didn't work.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


I watched my grandfather go through alzheimers for 12 years.

Every single day my grandmother would go to his care home and feed him, take care of him, change his socks make sure he had clean clothes.

I often asked God why.

This was one of the best men I'd ever known, a complete gentleman, WWII vet and Godly man.

I always asked why, I couldn't understand.

Until I saw the changes in my grandma. Loving him, taking care of him everyday, even though he didn't remember her.

Then I knew.

God send us difficulties in the ones we love so that it brings out the best in us.

Its all for our good.

Praise God, it is right to praise Him!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~




I.e. god punishes you by allowing pain on others, which in turn purifies you... Stockholm syndrome anyone?
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Not allowing, comforting, caring, loving during the pain.

As my mother was dying my atheist brother who swore he would take care of her, ignored her most basic needs like a warm pair of socks while he sold off all of her belongings.
 Quoting: Masiro®



That was your brother, not a set if beliefs ordained or not ordained by some man made deity...
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Ah that crafty 'ol god of Abraham.

What a master poker player he must be.

;)

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Snails and stars do not expect fairness and neither should we.

However, God does intervene from time to time.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Sorry but I've never heard a snail or a star talk.

Also it still doesn't explain why God would turn a woman from a functional adult into someone who has to be watched in the bathroom because she can't wipe and will play in her own feces. A woman who went to church on on a regular basis.

Or why God would let a woman abuse her children on a daily basis.

If God does intervene from time to time then why do you think he doesn't all the time?

Ms Betty must have been a bitch that's why her prayers didn't work.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


I watched my grandfather go through alzheimers for 12 years.

Every single day my grandmother would go to his care home and feed him, take care of him, change his socks make sure he had clean clothes.

I often asked God why.

This was one of the best men I'd ever known, a complete gentleman, WWII vet and Godly man.

I always asked why, I couldn't understand.

Until I saw the changes in my grandma. Loving him, taking care of him everyday, even though he didn't remember her.

Then I knew.

God send us difficulties in the ones we love so that it brings out the best in us.

Its all for our good.

Praise God, it is right to praise Him!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yet it doesn't bring out the best in all people. It leaves some people feeling frustrated and some wanting the person to pass away. They really don't want the person to pass they just want the person to be their old self. They don't want to be cleaning feces all day long and asked the same question 500 times a day.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


Who is the better person, those that walk away from the stress of dealing with the dying of a loved one or those that carry the burden of dealing with all the problems involved with death?

Sadly when you get to the nuts and bolts of it all in the end without God it is almost unbearable...
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some people wont believe in God no matter what is said.unfortunately.some have demonic stronghold of unbelief that hinders them from believing in God.some dont believe because of bad examples of supposed "CHRISTIANS"not acting like christians are supposed to act
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I can feel the hate for me even before I start down this road BUT...

I see the hand of God in everything around me and it is glorious...

So if you don't believe in God what more than anything is your reason for what you believe?
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Well said and agree 100%


The funny thing is most Atheists do not realize their argument is illogical. For example, I often hear how can God exist out of no where? My answer, is how do you exist out of no where? Atheists will usually explain to me through evolution. I then ask well if you can come to can existence out of evolution, then why cannot God?


Why does science and religion have to be separated, and not go together? I do believer science tells us how and religion tells us why.
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Atheists-materialists find it difficult to believe in anything they can’t measure, see or touch. They scoff at anything supernatural even being possible. Some minds just work that way, it takes all kinds to make a world.
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It's ultimate, unequalled narcissism.
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Unlike religious narcissism wherein man externalizes his ego and proclaims it 'god' and then he hides behind his useful facade to prove himself in possession of the good-guy-badge.
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Even the demons believe in God and know who Jesus is. Trusting him with your life is truly believing, we need to take up our cross daily and crucify the flesh.

John 3:16 isn't as simple as it comes across. In the original Greek, the word "believe" is actually “Pisteuo”.

“Pisteuo” is a total trust and abandonment of oneself upon the object of the belief. There is no English word that is equivalent in meaning to the word “pisteuo”. The closest word that the translators could find for the word “pisteuo” is “believe”. So they translated “pisteuo” as “believe”. But the word “believe” on its own does not convey what “pisteuo” actually means. “Pisteuo” describes an action that is like sitting on a chair – you put your entire weight on the chair. You abandon yourself and rest totally on the chair – in complete trust. “Pisteuo” also conveys the idea of yielding or surrendering.

James 2:19
19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
 Quoting: The Revenant




... sigh, and in a 1000 years from now as society lays in ruins a new God and religion will spawn, and no one will ever have heard of a Christian. But the mythos will replay all over...
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I watched my grandfather go through alzheimers for 12 years.

Every single day my grandmother would go to his care home and feed him, take care of him, change his socks make sure he had clean clothes.

I often asked God why.

This was one of the best men I'd ever known, a complete gentleman, WWII vet and Godly man.

I always asked why, I couldn't understand.

Until I saw the changes in my grandma. Loving him, taking care of him everyday, even though he didn't remember her.

Then I knew.

God send us difficulties in the ones we love so that it brings out the best in us.

Its all for our good.

Praise God, it is right to praise Him!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~




I.e. god punishes you by allowing pain on others, which in turn purifies you... Stockholm syndrome anyone?
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Not allowing, comforting, caring, loving during the pain.

As my mother was dying my atheist brother who swore he would take care of her, ignored her most basic needs like a warm pair of socks while he sold off all of her belongings.
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That was your brother, not a set if beliefs ordained or not ordained by some man made deity...
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You sound a little bitter about that...

Had my brother embraced those beliefs he would have taken better care of my mother as he pledged he would...
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There are no other 'gods'.

Just the one true God and creator of all life.

He is the only one who is real and sovereign, which is why He and His followers are attacked so relentlessly.
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...and who or what "created" the creator?


Ask yourself, is this even a relevant question? How does it change your belief in God. We have a Creator. IF He has a Creator as well, that doesn't change the fact that He still created us.

This is why we were given the story of the Tower of Babel, to show mankind, that; questions [and quests] like these are all in vain.

Does it truly benefit us, and more importantly, is it something you would even believe, and if you did, how would that affect the way you view life as we now know it?

There are a lot of ways and phrases to use to keep this into perspective, but maybe we should just leave this as is!

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Sorry but I've never heard a snail or a star talk.

Also it still doesn't explain why God would turn a woman from a functional adult into someone who has to be watched in the bathroom because she can't wipe and will play in her own feces. A woman who went to church on on a regular basis.

Or why God would let a woman abuse her children on a daily basis.

If God does intervene from time to time then why do you think he doesn't all the time?

Ms Betty must have been a bitch that's why her prayers didn't work.
 Quoting: MostlySunshine


I watched my grandfather go through alzheimers for 12 years.

Every single day my grandmother would go to his care home and feed him, take care of him, change his socks make sure he had clean clothes.

I often asked God why.

This was one of the best men I'd ever known, a complete gentleman, WWII vet and Godly man.

I always asked why, I couldn't understand.

Until I saw the changes in my grandma. Loving him, taking care of him everyday, even though he didn't remember her.

Then I knew.

God send us difficulties in the ones we love so that it brings out the best in us.

Its all for our good.

Praise God, it is right to praise Him!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


Yet it doesn't bring out the best in all people. It leaves some people feeling frustrated and some wanting the person to pass away. They really don't want the person to pass they just want the person to be their old self. They don't want to be cleaning feces all day long and asked the same question 500 times a day.
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Who is the better person, those that walk away from the stress of dealing with the dying of a loved one or those that carry the burden of dealing with all the problems involved with death?

Sadly when you get to the nuts and bolts of it all in the end without God it is almost unbearable...
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that is the reasoning of a weak mind.
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I enjoy a lot reading the word salads, logical fallacies and blatant ignorance on fanatics answers! Keep on posting my poor blind fanatic companions!
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I know deep within myself that God, Our Creator is very real.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

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Atheists-materialists find it difficult to believe in anything they can’t measure, see or touch. They scoff at anything supernatural even being possible. Some minds just work that way, it takes all kinds to make a world.
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LOL this is incredibly silly.

Not all atheists think alike. We don't have one particular dogma that we adhere to other than not believing in a diety.

Many of us, myself included, believe in a spirit world. I personally believe our spirit is eternal, individual as opposed to a collective spirit, and that this life is just one of countless lives that we've lived and will live. I just don't believe there is a diety. And there really doesn't have to be in order to exist.

We are self-existent. We didn't need a creator. I don't have the answer how we came into existence, but then again, NO ONE else does either. It's all just speculation.

If I were to find out there is a god, I would have to admit I was incorrect. I would also expect a god to be benevolent and forgive those of us who didn't believe. I would suspect that such an entity would not be so egotistical as to harm us for not believing. If we were punished for our beliefs, that would mean he's a true mental case. If he were vindictive and brutal, then he isn't worth worshiping anyway.
 Quoting: Tars Tarkas, Jr.


Shouldn't you identify closer to the agnostic versus atheists with those beliefs?

A lot of the issues are the definitions themselves and the many interpretations out there.

I just find it funny the religious get just as pissed off at the agnostic as they do the atheists. As soon as you suggest the man made knowledge is corrupt, they go crazy.





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