The Star of Bethlehem was Supernova SN 2009nw. Find out why! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77201407 United States 06/09/2019 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | January temperatures in Bethlehem would have been too cold for shepherds to be active outdoors overnight. Christ' birth most likely September 12th, 3-BC. Wise men visit December 25th, 2-BC Herod kills all infants under 2 years old in January of 1-BC. Herod dies March of 1-BC. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | January temperatures in Bethlehem would have been too cold for shepherds to be active outdoors overnight. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77201407 Christ' birth most likely September 12th, 3-BC. Wise men visit December 25th, 2-BC Herod kills all infants under 2 years old in January of 1-BC. Herod dies March of 1-BC. While it is true that January is the month in Israel that has the coldest average temperature, it is also the month that has the highest average rainfall throughout the year. Also, 3 months prior to January, that is, the period from October to December, was when rainfall starts to increase in Israel after having 5 months of lowest average rainfall starting from May until September. [link to www.holiday-weather.com (secure)] And this means that by January, the hills already become clothed with grass, and the shepherds, knowing this, take their sheep further to the fields and away from their towns. Now when these grassy fields are particularly far from their towns, instead of leading the sheep to and from the fields and the towns, shepherds would rather enfold their flock in nearby caves in the field and watch over their flock throughout the night. And this was especially true whenever the temperature was relatively warmer than the average temperature for January. In my previous video titled “The Star of Bethlehem & the true location of Christ's nativity at Avshalom or Soreq cave”, I mentioned that the Soreq cave, where I believe Christ was born, keeps the temperature and the humidity inside it constant year round. Thus, enfolding sheep inside caves in Israel during winter time actually poses no problem at all. Also, note that the coolest temperature during January in Israel is usually 39°F. And for precipitation to begin falling as snow from the clouds, the air temperature at the ground should be cooler than 32°F. Thus, only in very rare occasions when the lowest temperature during January is lower than normal, does it ever snow in Israel. [link to ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No,it wasn't. Supernovas don't transit and then become stationary. The Magi weren't looking for exploding stars, they were observing the King Star Jupiter. Try again. Once you've gone through your 5011 theories and they all prove to be wrong, get back to me. 1 star for more fake stars of Bethlehem. Keep them coming, and watch them all fall. Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/09/2019 05:06 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No,it wasn't. Quoting: anastasis888 Supernovas don't transit and then become stationary. The Magi weren't looking for exploding stars, they were observing the King Star Jupiter. Try again. Once you've gone through your 5011 theories and they all prove to be wrong, get back to me. 1 star for more fake stars of Bethlehem. Keep them coming, and watch them all fall. Supernovas are just like stars, they rise from the east and set in the west. Duh! |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No,it wasn't. Quoting: anastasis888 Supernovas don't transit and then become stationary. The Magi weren't looking for exploding stars, they were observing the King Star Jupiter. Try again. Once you've gone through your 5011 theories and they all prove to be wrong, get back to me. 1 star for more fake stars of Bethlehem. Keep them coming, and watch them all fall. Supernovas are just like stars, they rise from the east and set in the west. Duh! But they don't go stationary. Duh! Try again. You really make a terrible Magus. You should be more like Daniel. Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/09/2019 05:09 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Star that was prophesied to rise in Jacob and be the Sign of King Messiah, you in your brilliance decide was an exploding, burnt out Star? Is Christ an exploding, burnt out star, or are you? Try again, genius astrologer! I'll give you a hint - the night of Dec. 17-18 6BC. Try that. Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No,it wasn't. Quoting: anastasis888 Supernovas don't transit and then become stationary. The Magi weren't looking for exploding stars, they were observing the King Star Jupiter. Try again. Once you've gone through your 5011 theories and they all prove to be wrong, get back to me. 1 star for more fake stars of Bethlehem. Keep them coming, and watch them all fall. Supernovas are just like stars, they rise from the east and set in the west. Duh! But they don't go stationary. Try again. You really make a terrible Magus. You should be more like Daniel. And neither is your King star Jupiter stationary either. Duh! However, if a star or planet is seen in the zenith of the sky, it is at that moment in time when the star is neither rising nor setting, since its altitude is 90 degrees. And thus the star is observed to be temporarily stopping at that moment. The Bible never said the star stopped forever in the sky where Jesus was seen by the Magi. Otherwise the Star of Bethlehem would still be seen unmoving in that part of the sky until now. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Star that was prophesied to rise in Jacob and be the Sign of King Messiah, you in your brilliance decide was an exploding, burnt out Star? Quoting: anastasis888 Is Christ an exploding, burnt out star, or are you? Try again, genius astrologer! I'll give you a hint - the night of Dec. 17-18 6BC. Try that. :nativitysquare: Haven't you heard yet? A supernova can explode multiple times. Please update your knowledge in astronomy if ever you had one. LOL! |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, Philippines, try a star that the Magi would actually care about. You might try..oh, say... JUPITER ... I know that's against your religion, it seems, but it's not against what Matthew and Luke describe. Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
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anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, Philippines, try a star that the Magi would actually care about. You might try..oh, say... Quoting: anastasis888 JUPITER ... I know that's against your religion, it seems, but it's not against what Matthew and Luke describe. Have it your way. Based on the path you're on, you might conclude the Star was the Crab Nebula. Go look for nebulas, black holes, supernovas and any other nonsense theory you want to put forward. Enjoy proving over and over that you are not on the same road as the Magi. Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Star of Bethlehem & the true location of Christ's nativity at Avshalom or Soreq cave [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, Philippines, try a star that the Magi would actually care about. You might try..oh, say... Quoting: anastasis888 JUPITER ... I know that's against your religion, it seems, but it's not against what Matthew and Luke describe. Have it your way. Based on the path you're on, you might conclude the Star was the Crab Nebula. Go look for nebulas, black holes, supernovas and any other nonsense theory you want to put forward. Enjoy proving over and over that you are not on the same road as the Magi. For an American your English comprehension is really poor. Are you a native American or just a migrant? I already concluded that the Star of Bethlehem was the supernova SN 2009nw, so why are you thinking that I might be concluding that it was the Crab Nebula instead? And why do you keep comparing me to the Magi? Maybe it is you that is the wannabe Magi here and not me? |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My name is Mud. Isaiah 14 Præparate Lucifer filiorum occisioni, in iniquitate patrum suorum: non consurgent, nec hæreditabunt terram, neque implebunt faciem orbis civitatum. Et consurgam super eos, dicit Dominus exercituum; et perdam Babylonis nomen, et reliquias, et germen, et progeniem, dicit Dominus; et ponam eam in possessionem de vinctum, et in paludes aquarum, et scopabo eam in scopa terens, dicit Dominus exercituum. Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My name is Mud. Quoting: anastasis888 :starofchrist: :nativitychart: Isaiah 14 Præparate Lucifer filiorum occisioni, in iniquitate patrum suorum: non consurgent, nec hæreditabunt terram, neque implebunt faciem orbis civitatum. Et consurgam super eos, dicit Dominus exercituum; et perdam Babylonis nomen, et reliquias, et germen, et progeniem, dicit Dominus; et ponam eam in possessionem de vinctum, et in paludes aquarum, et scopabo eam in scopa terens, dicit Dominus exercituum. Who cares? LOL |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My name is Mud. Quoting: anastasis888 Isaiah 14 Præparate Lucifer filiorum occisioni, in iniquitate patrum suorum: non consurgent, nec hæreditabunt terram, neque implebunt faciem orbis civitatum. Et consurgam super eos, dicit Dominus exercituum; et perdam Babylonis nomen, et reliquias, et germen, et progeniem, dicit Dominus; et ponam eam in possessionem de vinctum, et in paludes aquarum, et scopabo eam in scopa terens, dicit Dominus exercituum. Who cares? LOL According to Numbers 24, the Tribe of Chemosh will care. LOL. And if you had any clue what the star actually portends, you would care too. LOL. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/09/2019 05:53 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My name is Mud. Quoting: anastasis888 :starofchrist: :nativitychart: Isaiah 14 Præparate Lucifer filiorum occisioni, in iniquitate patrum suorum: non consurgent, nec hæreditabunt terram, neque implebunt faciem orbis civitatum. Et consurgam super eos, dicit Dominus exercituum; et perdam Babylonis nomen, et reliquias, et germen, et progeniem, dicit Dominus; et ponam eam in possessionem de vinctum, et in paludes aquarum, et scopabo eam in scopa terens, dicit Dominus exercituum. Who cares? LOL According to Numbers 24, the Tribe of Chemosh will care. LOL. And if you had any clue what the star actually portends, you would care too. LOL. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] So you are the wannabe Magi here. LOL! |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My name is Mud. Quoting: anastasis888 Isaiah 14 Præparate Lucifer filiorum occisioni, in iniquitate patrum suorum: non consurgent, nec hæreditabunt terram, neque implebunt faciem orbis civitatum. Et consurgam super eos, dicit Dominus exercituum; et perdam Babylonis nomen, et reliquias, et germen, et progeniem, dicit Dominus; et ponam eam in possessionem de vinctum, et in paludes aquarum, et scopabo eam in scopa terens, dicit Dominus exercituum. Who cares? LOL According to Numbers 24, the Tribe of Chemosh will care. LOL. And if you had any clue what the star actually portends, you would care too. LOL. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] So you are the wannabe Magi here. LOL! And you're the wannabe burnt out star. LOL! Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Numbers 24, the Tribe of Chemosh will care. LOL. And if you had any clue what the star actually portends, you would care too. LOL. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] So you are the wannabe Magi here. LOL! And you're the wannabe burnt out star. LOL! And you are projecting your failed delusions of yourself on me. |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: anastasis888 According to Numbers 24, the Tribe of Chemosh will care. LOL. And if you had any clue what the star actually portends, you would care too. LOL. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] So you are the wannabe Magi here. LOL! And you're the wannabe burnt out star. LOL! And you are projecting your failed delusions of yourself on me. I'm not the one who looks for burnt out gas giants exploding in space to be my guiding Star. Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Merry Christmas, Philippines. You might find the Star in about 50 million years if you keep looking for it. I'll give you one more hint - it's not a supernova. Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/09/2019 06:32 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now when was the first time the Magi saw the Star of Bethlehem explode and brighten up, approximately 2 years before the birth of Christ according to the gospel of Matthew? The supernova explosion of a star is an unpredictable event, and it was unlikely that the Magi were observing the sky with the hope of seeing one by chance. So what very important astronomical event instead were the Magi actually observing that time? [link to www.universetoday.com (secure)] Venus and Jupiter’s Upcoming Conjunction, by Fraser Cain Quoting: universe todayA conjunction very much like the one occurring on the 5th [of November, 2004] occurred in August 12 of the year 3 B.C. That year Venus and Jupiter were only 10 arc-minutes or 0.16 degrees apart in the constellation of Leo the Lion. With such a narrow separation, light reflected from the two would seem to merge into one as seen with the unaided eye. Some scholars have speculated that this close conjunction may have been interpreted as a sign by a group known as the Magi. The Magi, or wise men, were priests of an ancient religion known as Zoroastrianism. Could this close conjunction have been what sent the wise men traveling to a far off city known as Bethlehem? The Magi from the East were observing this very rare Venus - Jupiter conjunction when all of a sudden and quite unexpectedly, supernova SN 2009nw, which I believe to be the Star of Bethlehem, exploded and brightened many times in magnitude right before their eyes. And since both the Venus - Jupiter conjunction and supernova SN 2009nw were located in the same constellation Leo, these astronomical events were observed by the Magi simultaneously. But wait, there is more. The very rare Venus - Jupiter conjunction on August 12, 3 BC also coincided with the annual heliacal rising of Regulus, the brightest object in the constellation of Leo and one of the brightest stars in the night sky. The traditional name Regulus is Latin for 'prince' or 'little king', and the heliacal rising of Regulus on this day coinciding with the close Venus - Jupiter conjunction and the surprise supernova explosion of the Star of Bethlehem, were probably the reasons why the Magi from the East interpreted these astronomical events as the birth of a future king. |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'll give you another hint: the Nativity wasn't in January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, or November. And it wasn't in any year except 6 BC. And it wasn't on any other night except the 17th through 18th at the Jupiter/Luna stationary conjunction. Hope that helps. Keep searching. Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/09/2019 06:48 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77717171 Philippines 06/09/2019 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Allow me to explain this conclusion a little further: Matthew Robinson, in page 7 of his work titled “Ardua et Astra: On the Calculation of the Dates of the Rising and Setting of Stars” and which was published by The University of Chicago Press, dated the annual Apparent Morning Rising (abbreviated AMR) of Regulus every August 12 starting from 100 BC until sometime before 401 AD when this annual date changed to August 14 due to precession of the equinoxes. Robinson defined Apparent Morning Rising, also known as heliacal rising or ‘first visibility’ as when: The star crosses the eastern horizon shortly before the sun, and is thus briefly visible (for the first time). With every morning that follows, the interval between the star’s rising and sunrise increases: the star is visible earlier, and for longer. This [heliacal rising] is the first of many visible risings. Quoting: Robinson, Ardua et Astra page 3Thus, the heliacal rising of a star, being the first of many visible risings after a period of invisibility due to its close proximity with the Sun, which outshines the star with its surpassing brightness, can be considered as the annual reappearance or rebirth of a star. Now while the heliacal rising of a star is the first of many visible risings of the star, the Apparent Evening Rising (abbreviated as AER), also known as the visible acronychal rising, is according to Matthew Robinson, the last of these many visible risings of the star: The star crosses the eastern horizon just after sunset. On previous days the star had crossed the horizon some time after sunset, and so its rising was easily visible. On subsequent days the interval between sunset and the star’s rising diminishes, and the sky is too bright for the star’s rising to be seen, and by the time the sky is dark the star is already some distance above the eastern horizon. Thus the apparent evening rising is the last visible rising of the star after sunset. Quoting: Robinson, Ardua et Astra page 3And according to Matthew Robinson’s calculations, this annual acronychal rising of Regulus was every January 9 of the year starting from 100 BC until sometime before 401 AD when this annual date changed to January 12 due to precession of the equinoxes. (Ardua et Astra page 7) Now remember, in my previous video titled “When was Christ born and when was he baptised? The Year, Month, and Day. Revealed at last!” I concluded that Christ was born after sundown on Friday, January 9, 1 BC and before sunrise on Saturday, January 10, 1 BC. Thus, the first time the Magi from the East saw the Star of Bethlehem, was on the day of the year 3 BC of Regulus’ annual first visible rising, namely August 12, and the second time the Magi from the East saw the Star of Bethlehem, was on the day of the year 1 BC of Regulus’ annual last visible rising, namely January 9. Thus, the two times the Magi from the East saw the Star of Bethlehem in a period of more than a year but under 2 years, coincided with the first as well as the last visible rising of the star Regulus. Link to Robinson's work Ardua et Astra - [link to discovery.ucl.ac.uk] |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/09/2019 07:02 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/09/2019 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, OP, you know what else is groovy kewl? To the Magi, Myrrh was the incense of the Moon, and Frankincense was the incense of Jupiter. And Gold was the metal of the Sun. Isn't that like totally wack, dude? And like...it was December 17th, the first day of the Saturnalia when the Sun enters Solstice week. So, I was like, DOOD, that's like the Moon and Jupiter and the Sun or something, dood! LOL Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/09/2019 07:22 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/11/2019 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey, magi star hunter bro doods...I found another groovy kewl fun fact. In Iraq, the principal lambing season of Awassi ewes is in November, and in Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic and Israel in December-January. There's like literally one month (from mid-December to mid-January) when the shepherds would have been watching the ewes at night. Isn't that way kewl? And that's from the Israeli Department of Agriculture, doods. Merry Christmas, doods :-) [link to www.fao.org] Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/11/2019 09:23 AM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
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anastasis888 User ID: 5208799 United States 06/11/2019 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maiden Christmas, doods! Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
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