Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77605484 United States 06/11/2019 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) "Both the IBWC and the Border Patrol will have a role in the future when determining when the gate is locked and when it is not," Kris Kobach, general counsel for "We Build the Wall" said. When KTSM spoke with the IBWC last week, it said the public would continue having access to Monument One. So that's why there's a gate. And it was designed to be open sometimes. Thanks OP for posting information from people who don't know shit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) [link to www.waymarking.com] Is this the monument in question? “International Boundary Marker No. 1, El Paso, TX - Engineering Landmarks on Waymarking.com “ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77394892 United States 06/11/2019 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) Someone needs some time to think about the error of their ways. Whoever put the lock on the gate, and the cops that were there to make sure it stayed there, should be in prison for treason. What good is a wall if you lock the gates open? Why are there gates there, anyway? Weld them shut! Quoting: Epic Beard Guy ^^THIS!^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) [link to www.ktsm.com (secure)] “The American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico began a call to citizens on Friday asking them to email the IBWC because they believe the barrier is unlawful, saying the gate in place is blocking access to the monument.” Wondering if the monument is just marking the boundary or if it is in commemoration of something else? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) [link to www.waymarking.com] According to this person account, the back of the monument is actually in Mexican territory and if you step behind it, doing that can get you into serious trouble with the Mexican government. “”Monument is near Sunland Park, New Mexico, in Dona Ana County. Monument is on McNutt Road 2.6 miles south of Racetrack Drive, on the right when traveling south. The first international monument of the 276 installed to the west along the international land boundary which marks the international boundary between the United States and Mexico. This monument was placed on January 31, 1855 in accordance with the 1853 treaty and was registered by the international water and Commission between the United States and Mexico on June 2, 1980 in commemoration of the first centennial of the establishment of this international Commission. IMPORTANT UPDATE!!! --> This historic boundary marker is actually considered to be INSIDE Mexico. If you walk up to it, even if you do not go around to its other side, you are in Mexico. <-- --> The true border is the line of white-painted rocks. It is strictly enforced by BOTH SIDES. <-- Uniformed US Border Patrol are very vigilant here, as are their Mexican counterparts. USBP are very helpful in sharing where the actual enforced border is -- it's marked, but still subtle and can be confusing. We (Benchmark Blasterz) were told by two helpful and polite USBP agents that if we walked over to take a pic with this marker, we risked getting arrested by Mexican border police for illegal entry into that country. Mexican border police are almost always at this little park. On the day we were there, USBP pointed out 2 Mexican police officers in plain clothes and 1 on top of a nearby the hill who was in uniform,watching us with binoculars. USBP told is that if arrested by MX BP, the police would take us to jail in Juarez. We would have to make an appearance before a Mexican immigration judge and would be charged with the offense of illegally entering Mexico outside of an official port of entry. We would have the right to ask for a lawyer from the US Consulate to represent us in court, and to see a person from the consulate every day we were in jail. We would be advised to plead guilty by the Consulate lawyer. After the plea was entered, we would be convicted of this offense and would have to pay a fine before being formally deported back to the US at International Bridge 1 downtown. That process takes about 3 days, and according to USBP, happens very frequently. At deportation, we would be turned over (in custody) to the US Border Patrol at International Bridge 1. After the USBP did the transfer paperwork with MXBP, USBP report the incident to the local US Attorney. While we would be allowed back into the US, officially we would not be free to go, but instead would be released on our own recognizance, and required to stay in El Paso while the US Attorney decided whether to charge us with the offense of illegal entry into the US (max fine $500.00 if convicted). These charging decisions are made on a case-by-case basis. The vast majority of them are declined for prosecution. We were also told that if caught over the border, under no circumstances should we try to bribe the MX BP to simply step back over the border. MX BP are very proud and irritated by the US BP enforcement actions against their citizens. They see these American tourist incursions as incredibly disrespectful and arrogant. Offering 20 bucks to step back 5 feet into the US would get us a serious charge of bribing an officer, to be prosectued in the Mexican justice system, where you stay in jail until trial. FYI for future finders -- use a zoom to get this waymark, and mind where the rocks are. If in doubt as to where the eforced border is, ASK!!! Stay safe down here!! :)” |
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Light Bulb M User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) So, I guess nobody finds it interesting that the fed government has chained the border wall open, and that this monument that the ALCU of New Mexico is so concerned about letting everyone visit is really built on Mexican land? Last Edited by Light Bulb on 06/11/2019 04:41 PM |
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Light Bulb M User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) [link to kvoa.com (secure)] AGUA PRIETA, SON, MEXICO. – At least 10 people were killed during a shootout in Mexico near the Douglas Port of Entry on Monday, June 10. Checking now to see how close this is to where the wall is chained open |
Light Bulb M User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) Douglas Port of Entry is about four hours away, straight west on Interstate 10, 260 miles from the Sunland Memorial Monument where the Border Wall panel has been chained open. |
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beauvoir (OP) User ID: 76680697 Canada 06/11/2019 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) So, I guess nobody finds it interesting that the fed government has chained the border wall open, and that this monument that the ALCU of New Mexico is so concerned about letting everyone visit is really built on Mexican land? Quoting: Light Bulb it's starting to become. . . . too late? is it still recoverable? beauvoir |
Light Bulb M User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) I am going to use karma to pin this thread. Hope it brings this information to more. Early this morning when I first read and saw the video, I couldn’t believe what was happening—- especially with the concern about the Ebola outbreak. Don’t know which page this thread is on now, but I hope more people realize that we have a faction within our own government who do not believe in keeping our country secure. |
beauvoir (OP) User ID: 76680697 Canada 06/11/2019 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) I am going to use karma to pin this thread. Hope it brings this information to more. Quoting: Light Bulb Early this morning when I first read and saw the video, I couldn’t believe what was happening—- especially with the concern about the Ebola outbreak. Don’t know which page this thread is on now, but I hope more people realize that we have a faction within our own government who do not believe in keeping our country secure. THANK YOU,XXX beauvoir |
Light Bulb M User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) Also saw your post about the Texas town of Uvalde being completely overrun with migrants. Thread: LATEST PRIORITIES What if Mitch McConnell cared as much about the border as about pork projects? BORDER GETTING WORSE Border crisis: Texas town I think my karma pin worked, at least for awhile. |
beauvoir (OP) User ID: 76680697 Canada 06/11/2019 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) Also saw your post about the Texas town of Uvalde being completely overrun with migrants. Quoting: Light Bulb Thread: LATEST PRIORITIES What if Mitch McConnell cared as much about the border as about pork projects? BORDER GETTING WORSE Border crisis: Texas town I think my karma pin worked, at least for awhile. [link to www.conservativereview.com (secure)] McLaughlin noted that he called his Republican congressman, William Hurd, as well as the two Texas senators, the governor, and the state attorney general, but can’t get any meaningful response from them. “I don’t hear any of them prioritizing this issue. We had a citizen last week who was just on his property right where they stopped the freight train. Some of the illegals got off the train, got on his property, and confronted him. One of them started to get aggressive and the guy threatened him. That night he and his family couldn’t sleep. His grandkids won’t even come over any more to swim in the pool unless he sits there with a shotgun. That’s how much traffic we’re getting here right in Uvalde. He’s a farmer who’s been here all his life and is now thinking of moving.” when I read all this. . . . It's a great sadness. beauvoir |
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beauvoir (OP) User ID: 76680697 Canada 06/11/2019 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) In addition, McLaughlin said that there are often dozens of illegal immigrants piled on freight trains coming into his town. He said Border Patrol often lacks the resources to to check the freight trains, but recently they have caught as many as 35 in a single group. “These are the bad guys with criminal records. According to Border Patrol, 99 percent of these guys on those trains are bad guys and have criminal records. They can’t get in any other way, so they’re sneaking in on freight trains.” beauvoir |
beauvoir (OP) User ID: 76680697 Canada 06/11/2019 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) ACLU has been co-opted by the FORD FOUNDATION for some time. Quoting: anonymous coward 76076258 They are officially unconstitutional in nature. this? [link to reinformation.tv (secure)] ACLU, CAP: anti-Trump subversion plan of leftist groups funded by Soros, Rockefeller The American election campaign will never end. The contestation of the legitimacy of Donald Trump has become the guideline of the liberal-libertarian oligarchy , the one that hopes to take revenge in April in France with its by-product labeled Emmanuel Macron. In the United States it is a real guerrilla war against the sovereignist and conservative president who is preparing for millions of dollars and crowd conditioning. The ACLU ( Amercican Civil Liberties Union ), whose political director is Faiz Shakir, former associate of the Democratic National Committee, former communicator at the Center for American Progress(CAP) formerly led by the ineffable John Podesta, armed arm of the Clintons. The president of the ACLU is Anthony Romero, who worked for the Rockefeller and Ford foundations, which fundamentally fund, like Soros, these key organizations of global, relativist, immigrationist and LGBT subversion. traducteur(french) beauvoir |
Light Bulb M User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) ACLU has been co-opted by the FORD FOUNDATION for some time. Quoting: anonymous coward 76076258 They are officially unconstitutional in nature. this? [link to reinformation.tv (secure)] ACLU, CAP: anti-Trump subversion plan of leftist groups funded by Soros, Rockefeller The American election campaign will never end. The contestation of the legitimacy of Donald Trump has become the guideline of the liberal-libertarian oligarchy , the one that hopes to take revenge in April in France with its by-product labeled Emmanuel Macron. In the United States it is a real guerrilla war against the sovereignist and conservative president who is preparing for millions of dollars and crowd conditioning. The ACLU ( Amercican Civil Liberties Union ), whose political director is Faiz Shakir, former associate of the Democratic National Committee, former communicator at the Center for American Progress(CAP) formerly led by the ineffable John Podesta, armed arm of the Clintons. The president of the ACLU is Anthony Romero, who worked for the Rockefeller and Ford foundations, which fundamentally fund, like Soros, these key organizations of global, relativist, immigrationist and LGBT subversion. traducteur(french) Faiz Shakir, ACLU leader, appears to be very pro-Muslim, and right hand man for Harry Reid, past Senator from Nevada. [link to www.aclu.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77656938 United States 06/11/2019 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) [link to www.waymarking.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74601693 According to this person account, the back of the monument is actually in Mexican territory and if you step behind it, doing that can get you into serious trouble with the Mexican government. “”Monument is near Sunland Park, New Mexico, in Dona Ana County. Monument is on McNutt Road 2.6 miles south of Racetrack Drive, on the right when traveling south. The first international monument of the 276 installed to the west along the international land boundary which marks the international boundary between the United States and Mexico. This monument was placed on January 31, 1855 in accordance with the 1853 treaty and was registered by the international water and Commission between the United States and Mexico on June 2, 1980 in commemoration of the first centennial of the establishment of this international Commission. IMPORTANT UPDATE!!! --> This historic boundary marker is actually considered to be INSIDE Mexico. If you walk up to it, even if you do not go around to its other side, you are in Mexico. <-- --> The true border is the line of white-painted rocks. It is strictly enforced by BOTH SIDES. <-- Uniformed US Border Patrol are very vigilant here, as are their Mexican counterparts. USBP are very helpful in sharing where the actual enforced border is -- it's marked, but still subtle and can be confusing. We (Benchmark Blasterz) were told by two helpful and polite USBP agents that if we walked over to take a pic with this marker, we risked getting arrested by Mexican border police for illegal entry into that country. Mexican border police are almost always at this little park. On the day we were there, USBP pointed out 2 Mexican police officers in plain clothes and 1 on top of a nearby the hill who was in uniform,watching us with binoculars. USBP told is that if arrested by MX BP, the police would take us to jail in Juarez. We would have to make an appearance before a Mexican immigration judge and would be charged with the offense of illegally entering Mexico outside of an official port of entry. We would have the right to ask for a lawyer from the US Consulate to represent us in court, and to see a person from the consulate every day we were in jail. We would be advised to plead guilty by the Consulate lawyer. After the plea was entered, we would be convicted of this offense and would have to pay a fine before being formally deported back to the US at International Bridge 1 downtown. That process takes about 3 days, and according to USBP, happens very frequently. At deportation, we would be turned over (in custody) to the US Border Patrol at International Bridge 1. After the USBP did the transfer paperwork with MXBP, USBP report the incident to the local US Attorney. While we would be allowed back into the US, officially we would not be free to go, but instead would be released on our own recognizance, and required to stay in El Paso while the US Attorney decided whether to charge us with the offense of illegal entry into the US (max fine $500.00 if convicted). These charging decisions are made on a case-by-case basis. The vast majority of them are declined for prosecution. We were also told that if caught over the border, under no circumstances should we try to bribe the MX BP to simply step back over the border. MX BP are very proud and irritated by the US BP enforcement actions against their citizens. They see these American tourist incursions as incredibly disrespectful and arrogant. Offering 20 bucks to step back 5 feet into the US would get us a serious charge of bribing an officer, to be prosectued in the Mexican justice system, where you stay in jail until trial. FYI for future finders -- use a zoom to get this waymark, and mind where the rocks are. If in doubt as to where the eforced border is, ASK!!! Stay safe down here!! :)” |
Light Bulb M User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) Anthony Romero, head of ACLU: “Romero is the ACLU's sixth executive director and the first Latino and openly gay man to serve in that capacity...” [link to www.aclu.org (secure)] Last Edited by Light Bulb on 06/11/2019 07:56 PM |
beauvoir (OP) User ID: 76680697 Canada 06/11/2019 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) Brian Kolfage a retweeté Quoting: beauvoir The Truth Sandwich ‏ @TruthSandwich20 14 hil y a 14 heures Plus After a visit with my doctor today, I got confirmation that El Paso is seeing a rise in tuberculosis, measles, and even Scarlet Fever. This is what the Democrats want for America by keeping open borders. #MAGA #BorderCrisis #IllegalImmigration 33 réponses 444 Retweets 624 j'aime Répondre 33 Retweeter 444 J'aime 624 Brian Kolfage ‏ @BrianKolfage 11 hil y a 11 heures Plus Note that all of the discussions purpose of this organization is ONLY water allocation. Our wall is not on water has nothing to do with the flow or control of water and sits next to their barbed wire fence. The IWBC and @harkjay350 are overstepping @realDonaldTrump and @DHSgov 25 réponses 502 Retweets 791 j'aime Répondre 25 Retweeter 502 J'aime 791 Brian Kolfage ‏ @BrianKolfage 12 hil y a 12 heures Plus #closethegate 33 réponses 353 Retweets 800 j'aime Répondre 33 Retweeter 353 J'aime 800 Afficher cette discussion Brian Kolfage ‏ @BrianKolfage 12 hil y a 12 heures Plus The IBWC is a fine example of over reach and growing to big. They are over stepping DHS, national security experts and undermining @realDonaldTrump as soon as they locked our gate open we noticed many other gates around el Paso just opened up!! They are planning for mass invasion BOOM! beauvoir |
Light Bulb M User ID: 74601693 United States 06/11/2019 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Now we have the deep state come out here and lock the gate open, yes that is right OPEN! – 6/10/19 – (12:56) – (Jim Benvie) [link to www.waymarking.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74601693 According to this person account, the back of the monument is actually in Mexican territory and if you step behind it, doing that can get you into serious trouble with the Mexican government. “”Monument is near Sunland Park, New Mexico, in Dona Ana County. Monument is on McNutt Road 2.6 miles south of Racetrack Drive, on the right when traveling south. The first international monument of the 276 installed to the west along the international land boundary which marks the international boundary between the United States and Mexico. This monument was placed on January 31, 1855 in accordance with the 1853 treaty and was registered by the international water and Commission between the United States and Mexico on June 2, 1980 in commemoration of the first centennial of the establishment of this international Commission. IMPORTANT UPDATE!!! --> This historic boundary marker is actually considered to be INSIDE Mexico. If you walk up to it, even if you do not go around to its other side, you are in Mexico. <-- --> The true border is the line of white-painted rocks. It is strictly enforced by BOTH SIDES. <-- Uniformed US Border Patrol are very vigilant here, as are their Mexican counterparts. USBP are very helpful in sharing where the actual enforced border is -- it's marked, but still subtle and can be confusing. We (Benchmark Blasterz) were told by two helpful and polite USBP agents that if we walked over to take a pic with this marker, we risked getting arrested by Mexican border police for illegal entry into that country. Mexican border police are almost always at this little park. On the day we were there, USBP pointed out 2 Mexican police officers in plain clothes and 1 on top of a nearby the hill who was in uniform,watching us with binoculars. USBP told is that if arrested by MX BP, the police would take us to jail in Juarez. We would have to make an appearance before a Mexican immigration judge and would be charged with the offense of illegally entering Mexico outside of an official port of entry. We would have the right to ask for a lawyer from the US Consulate to represent us in court, and to see a person from the consulate every day we were in jail. We would be advised to plead guilty by the Consulate lawyer. After the plea was entered, we would be convicted of this offense and would have to pay a fine before being formally deported back to the US at International Bridge 1 downtown. That process takes about 3 days, and according to USBP, happens very frequently. At deportation, we would be turned over (in custody) to the US Border Patrol at International Bridge 1. After the USBP did the transfer paperwork with MXBP, USBP report the incident to the local US Attorney. While we would be allowed back into the US, officially we would not be free to go, but instead would be released on our own recognizance, and required to stay in El Paso while the US Attorney decided whether to charge us with the offense of illegal entry into the US (max fine $500.00 if convicted). These charging decisions are made on a case-by-case basis. The vast majority of them are declined for prosecution. We were also told that if caught over the border, under no circumstances should we try to bribe the MX BP to simply step back over the border. MX BP are very proud and irritated by the US BP enforcement actions against their citizens. They see these American tourist incursions as incredibly disrespectful and arrogant. Offering 20 bucks to step back 5 feet into the US would get us a serious charge of bribing an officer, to be prosectued in the Mexican justice system, where you stay in jail until trial. FYI for future finders -- use a zoom to get this waymark, and mind where the rocks are. If in doubt as to where the eforced border is, ASK!!! Stay safe down here!! :)” Glad that you saw this! The monument is actually considered to be located inside Mexico, |
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