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So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement?

Regardless of what it was.

Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil...

How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe you're nuts than that it happened.

Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side?

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I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Every time that I've hallucinated something, it eventually returns to reality. TBC-stoked
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Ultimately you come to the know the truth. Then anything else is meaningless.
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Its as fast and simple, this aint no slide you take for a ride, you be sippin that bitch nector so liftin and friggin pure psycoride
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yeah.

walk your own walk

create your own refuge

expand your wah

learn the Arts of your enemy

become your own counsel

and find someone with a bigger stick

keep to yourself

and wait for judgement day

be well
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It causes You to adopt the psychology of the 'outsider'.
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hard to be an anamoly innit?

whatever fs says, I concur

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Re: Dealing with the psychological side of witnessing things not accepted by society as possible
So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement?

Regardless of what it was.

Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil...

How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe your nuts than that it happened.

Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


First, I think you would be surprised at the huge number of people who know for certain that whatever you saw really did happen, regardless of what "society" supposedly believes.

Second, there must be at least one person who knows your mental state well enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. Talk to them.

Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen.
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hard to be an anamoly innit?

whatever fs says, I concur

rockon
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thanks man...

cheers
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I have. For me it was just a matter of accepting the universe is much more fantastic then we've been lead to believe and there are those out there that do not want this info out as to retain power and control.

The fact that there is more to this life than this physical struggle fills my heart with joy.
This is what pulls me through.
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I deal with it by using a high quality slide action shotgun.
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So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement?

Regardless of what it was.

Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil...

How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe your nuts than that it happened.

Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


First, I think you would be surprised at the huge number of people who know for certain that whatever you saw really did happen, regardless of what "society" supposedly believes.

Second, there must be at least one person who knows your mental state well enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. Talk to them.

Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen.
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So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement?

Regardless of what it was.

Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil...

How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe your nuts than that it happened.

Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


First, I think you would be surprised at the huge number of people who know for certain that whatever you saw really did happen, regardless of what "society" supposedly believes.

Second, there must be at least one person who knows your mental state well enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. Talk to them.

Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen.
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Did you get what you wanted. Is this thread closed now?
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hard to be an anamoly innit?

whatever fs says, I concur

rockon
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dasbier


thanks man...

cheers
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YW anytime :)

dasbier

I'm just glad I'm not in OP's shoes ...

alone
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Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen.
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Please tell me all train wrecks are fake?
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hey op


you will see it if you quote it

is from an old thread before trinity hauled mt profile off to his bunker under his chookhouse

anyway

it could be worse

we could have succumbed to nanotech

but nooo

nanotech succumbs to us

wicked design brothers and sisters

will be met quid pro quo

sine dei

allocutus for those wit mens rea at this dawgs house...

FIAT LUX...:)


LOL the irony is delish...

I'm an IOOF btw

they be the mages I fink....

anyway

a song


enjoy

'never Alone"


the Grail Tradition, surely is enough?



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Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen.
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Please tell me all train wrecks are fake?
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I doubt if you could be the sole witness of a train wreck,

but even if you were the sole witness of a train wreck,

I do believe that society accepts train wrecks as possible.

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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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I have. For me it was just a matter of accepting the universe is much more fantastic then we've been lead to believe and there are those out there that do not want this info out as to retain power and control.

The fact that there is more to this life than this physical struggle fills my heart with joy.
This is what pulls me through.
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This is exactly how I feel. I saw a UFO. I told my aunt about it. She then told me her UFO story. In 1956 she was 16 years old. She saw a UFO land 100 feet in front of her during daylight. It sat there a couple minutes and took off straight into the air.

My aunt is not Looney. We now share a special kind of bond.

There is so much more to this universe...it is amazing. It is...what it is.
They never thought she would lose. Now they all lose.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
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You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
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Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it.

Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy.

So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it.

Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy.

So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution.

And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it.

Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy.

So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution.

And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



You know what to do.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
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Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it.

Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy.

So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution.

And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



You know what to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


And what is that?
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it.

Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy.

So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared.
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Bingo Ringo

it iS kinda hard to "walk yer own path" when doing the bidding of others

is why I insisted on 3 layers of mitigation for you fruitloops

we have enough toads, pillars of salt and so on
'

I suggested to the Hall of the Gods that mayhaps we chance some Adults to be in control...

yanno

the 1000 years reign bit

be needing torchie and all his mates

so be good to yer "neigh bores"

theymay be angels unbeknownst to man

oh jesus

even im all

spock



so whats the word at the arcane watercooler op?

dont like the rules?

lol

i bet yas dont

toodlee doo

drama
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Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it.

Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy.

So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution.

And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



You know what to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


And what is that?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



Do what's right, even when it costs you.
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I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution.

And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



You know what to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280


And what is that?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft



Do what's right, even when it costs you.
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There is no right to do.

I could stand at the top of a cliff and yell at the ocean, but that will not stop the tide from coming in.

This shit is bigger than me.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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tell us op

Amodeus wishes to hear your testimony


just the facts.





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