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Thing 1 User ID: 77710451 United States 06/11/2019 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine A hundred years from now...it will not matter what my bank account was, the sort of house I lived in, or the kind of car I drove...but the world may be different because I was important in the life of a child. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76320280 United States 06/11/2019 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Regardless of what it was. Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil... How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe your nuts than that it happened. Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side? First, I think you would be surprised at the huge number of people who know for certain that whatever you saw really did happen, regardless of what "society" supposedly believes. Second, there must be at least one person who knows your mental state well enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. Talk to them. Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73295885 United States 06/11/2019 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that there is more to this life than this physical struggle fills my heart with joy. This is what pulls me through. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76320280 United States 06/11/2019 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Regardless of what it was. Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil... How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe your nuts than that it happened. Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side? First, I think you would be surprised at the huge number of people who know for certain that whatever you saw really did happen, regardless of what "society" supposedly believes. Second, there must be at least one person who knows your mental state well enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. Talk to them. Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76320280 United States 06/11/2019 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Regardless of what it was. Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil... How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe your nuts than that it happened. Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side? First, I think you would be surprised at the huge number of people who know for certain that whatever you saw really did happen, regardless of what "society" supposedly believes. Second, there must be at least one person who knows your mental state well enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. Talk to them. Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen. Did you get what you wanted. Is this thread closed now? |
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flaming sword User ID: 72772029 Australia 06/11/2019 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hey op you will see it if you quote it is from an old thread before trinity hauled mt profile off to his bunker under his chookhouse anyway it could be worse we could have succumbed to nanotech but nooo nanotech succumbs to us wicked design brothers and sisters will be met quid pro quo sine dei allocutus for those wit mens rea at this dawgs house... FIAT LUX...:) LOL the irony is delish... I'm an IOOF btw they be the mages I fink.... anyway a song enjoy 'never Alone" the Grail Tradition, surely is enough? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76320280 United States 06/11/2019 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Third, realize that there is a very good chance that whatever it was that you saw was staged and didn't really happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280 Please tell me all train wrecks are fake? I doubt if you could be the sole witness of a train wreck, but even if you were the sole witness of a train wreck, I do believe that society accepts train wrecks as possible. |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/11/2019 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so. So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Maiya It's kind of fun to do the impossible. User ID: 69614778 United States 06/11/2019 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have. For me it was just a matter of accepting the universe is much more fantastic then we've been lead to believe and there are those out there that do not want this info out as to retain power and control. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73295885 The fact that there is more to this life than this physical struggle fills my heart with joy. This is what pulls me through. This is exactly how I feel. I saw a UFO. I told my aunt about it. She then told me her UFO story. In 1956 she was 16 years old. She saw a UFO land 100 feet in front of her during daylight. It sat there a couple minutes and took off straight into the air. My aunt is not Looney. We now share a special kind of bond. There is so much more to this universe...it is amazing. It is...what it is. They never thought she would lose. Now they all lose. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76320280 United States 06/11/2019 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck. You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible. |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/11/2019 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck. You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible. I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76320280 United States 06/11/2019 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck. You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible. I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop. Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it. Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy. So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared. |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/11/2019 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck. You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible. I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop. Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it. Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy. So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared. I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution. And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76320280 United States 06/11/2019 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280 You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible. I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop. Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it. Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy. So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared. I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution. And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great. You know what to do. |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/11/2019 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it. Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy. So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared. I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution. And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great. You know what to do. And what is that? I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
flaming sword User ID: 72772029 Australia 06/11/2019 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck. You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible. I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop. Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it. Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy. So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared. Bingo Ringo it iS kinda hard to "walk yer own path" when doing the bidding of others is why I insisted on 3 layers of mitigation for you fruitloops we have enough toads, pillars of salt and so on ' I suggested to the Hall of the Gods that mayhaps we chance some Adults to be in control... yanno the 1000 years reign bit be needing torchie and all his mates so be good to yer "neigh bores" theymay be angels unbeknownst to man oh jesus even im all so whats the word at the arcane watercooler op? dont like the rules? lol i bet yas dont toodlee doo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76320280 United States 06/11/2019 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76320280 Your not covering up anything. You state that if you did say whatever it is, no one would believe you anyway. So what's the point of saying it. Sounds like the real issue is that you suspect you WILL be believed and then you will be in jeopardy. So you tell yourself that no one will believe you because you're scared. I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution. And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great. You know what to do. And what is that? Do what's right, even when it costs you. |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/11/2019 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TlvmmCpoft I talk about it because it fucking bugs me and I'm trying to find something akin to resolution. And, genuinely, believed or not, the response isn't going to be great. You know what to do. And what is that? Do what's right, even when it costs you. There is no right to do. I could stand at the top of a cliff and yell at the ocean, but that will not stop the tide from coming in. This shit is bigger than me. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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