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Dealing with the psychological side of witnessing things not accepted by society as possible

 
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You know what to do.
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And what is that?
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Do what's right, even when it costs you.
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There is no right to do.

I could stand at the top of a cliff and yell at the ocean, but that will not stop the tide from coming in.

This shit is bigger than me.
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I know exactly how you feel as I'm in the same boat. The system is rigged, and so are peoples' minds, to not ever allow you clarity, closure, or credibility. Do not expect anyone to understand. You will get no support of any kind. I see the dilemma as an opportunity to grow stronger in spirit if you can avoid feeling like a victim, and you have been given a glimpse of what is hidden from almost everyone. But it is burdensome and lonely. You will have to live with that.
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there is no agency nor private blackwater on this planet that scares me.i called the head of cia a cockroach.on a youtube video!
then sent it to her bosses!
im beyond fear.i just wish the usa gov would wake the fuvk up.i doubt it matters anymore.its a gisnt vlusterfuck of idiocracy.i use to have faith but not anymore,cellphone zombyism and failing markets are the future.then starvation and desth.not a death of a country with a bang but a whimper.

mostly at this point i jyst ignore,theres no way to fight the ocean,just swim and hope some day to make it to an island.
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Ultimately you come to the know the truth. Then anything else is meaningless.
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Yes. Been Police for 8 years, fireman for 20 and a PI for 20 years. Also had an up close and personal experience with a UFO in the desert, Utah.

Don't make a religion out of it. It meant nothing. Changed me forever, but I didn't go crazy over it. It takes 2.5 years to put it all to the back of your mind.

You can forget about thinking about religion the same way as you did before. That part of your life is over.
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Didn't you want it to happen again though? Are you looking for more?
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Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side?
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Normies were always afraid and negative.

Only dead fish go with the flow.
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It’s secret/top secret. Be professional and keep it where it needs to be. Don’t take it personal. Park it... it is what it is. Move on, right. Good luck.
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You have truth or not. If you know what you saw, and have proof it was a real phenomenon rather than something faked (as in a guy in a Big Foot suit), then why worry about it. You saw what you saw and it is what it is.

This is one of the reasons as to why many are Christians. If you witnessed a miracle, you have no option other than to believe regardless of what others say. I like to tell people who say there is no God/Jesus that I wish upon them a miracle.
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The crux of the matter is the loneliness. Buddha said, “If you find no better or equal on life’s path, walk alone; loneliness is better than the companionship of a fool.”
The hard part is finding that peace within yourself, day after day, alone. It’s why solitary confinement is so effectively maddening. It’s also why suicide rate increases with age.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
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You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
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Just find a friend or two that you can talk to about these things, and leave the normies alone. Just talk "normal" stuff to them.

About the issue of something ongoing, you will have to just let go of that. There are a bazillion ongoing things that are bad, and none of us can do a damn thing about it. If you can't do anything about it, and I feel certain that you can't, then hand it off to the higher celestial beings to deal with it. You are only one person. No doubt about it, you would never have seen or become aware of some things if you had been able to do anything about them. Right?
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
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Just find a friend or two that you can talk to about these things, and leave the normies alone. Just talk "normal" stuff to them.

About the issue of something ongoing, you will have to just let go of that. There are a bazillion ongoing things that are bad, and none of us can do a damn thing about it. If you can't do anything about it, and I feel certain that you can't, then hand it off to the higher celestial beings to deal with it. You are only one person. No doubt about it, you would never have seen or become aware of some things if you had been able to do anything about them. Right?
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I didn't finish my post...
If you had had the wherewithal to do something, it would have been hidden from you or you would have come to a bad end.
Let it go. Nothing you can do.
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I think it’s key to stay focused on your immediate sphere of influence. Raise a garden, be active in your local community. You can’t save the world, just live your life and focus on personal interactions and small things. You think they’re insignificant, but they’re not.
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This happened to me when I was very young, ~10ish.

I had my first experience with precognition, with a witness. It came as a flash...I told them EXACTLY what was about to happen, and it did. I was excited, they were shook, deeply. It changed our relationship forever, on the spot. The way we interacted, the way they talked to me, looked at me..

I was too young to understand that vocalizing such things might break others world views or notions. I've since learned better.

Its also made this physical plain dull and boring, as all I've wanted since that day is to understand the other side, which is impossible. People who haven't experienced it can't fathom how it breaks 'Realities'.

People think I'm a kook, and that's okay.

Now I just enjoy the ride, so to speak. If only they knew...
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So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement?

Regardless of what it was.

Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil...

How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe you're nuts than that it happened.

Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


It's not really about that for me, the problem is that in the past you could have argued for reality as it was, as it stands now even the area or space where the disbelievers are is pretty much shrinking.

These people might laugh at you, but in a sense they're still getting left behind too. It's a very difficult problem and really the greed or this tribal style of religion is a catastrophy just waiting to happen.
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see, they can't ARGUE, that's why CENSORSHIP


Why can't they argue effectively ? That is what concerns me. Enough power to ditch the maintainence ? Obviously these freaks are always going to want to maintain the illusion so you don't have to worry there. Have they just become so corrupted and greedy that they can't stop ? If there was belief or morals behind what they do why shrink the space ? So then, it's not them but the enemy quite happy to operate on us to manipulate us ?
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God knows the truth. That is all the comfort I need.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Why would you assist in engaging with a cover-up? That’s being complicit and not a good place to be.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Why are you concerned with what others think of you?
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This has happened to me repeatedly, both privately and about the larger society's issues. On a private level, in business, many times I've warned people, higher ups etc, that something was going to happen, esp if certain actions were not taken. I was routinely ignored because people want to believe that nothing bad is going to happen - they want the normalcy bias. And I was always proven right. It didn't matter, no one congratulated me, LOL.

Just know that whether you are one in 7 billion, if you believe what you see is right, believe it and act upon it to save yourself and those you can. The others will perish and there is nothing you can do. Save yourself and be content. There will always be Cassandras. Her curse was to always be correct in her prophecies - and that no one would believe her.
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see, they can't ARGUE, that's why CENSORSHIP


Why can't they argue effectively ? That is what concerns me. Enough power to ditch the maintainence ? Obviously these freaks are always going to want to maintain the illusion so you don't have to worry there. Have they just become so corrupted and greedy that they can't stop ? If there was belief or morals behind what they do why shrink the space ? So then, it's not them but the enemy quite happy to operate on us to manipulate us ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69520875



I've noticed that by and large, they've stopped arguing about many things - like chemtrails for example. It's because too many people know they're lying. The body of lies over, sometimes, decades, speaks for itself. No one of intelligence and honesty believes them anymore - look at how CNN has fallen. So because their lies no longer work, they have to crush the truth brutally. I fear that in a few years, maybe very few, they will actually take to killing people instead of just stopping videos.
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I saw, what must have been, a former linebacker trying to walk around dressed as a full on chick. Who deals with my "psychological side?"

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You just keep going not matter what. Never give in. There are some beautiful people on this planet. That helps. Have Faith. Dont sweat the stuff you cannot control- Ignore the nasty ones. Pity them. Forgive even when they arnt sorry.
Be prepared for the worst- Really. So they can never harm you so deeply again. Keep getting up.
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You don't have to tell others what you know. Usually telling others only causes problems and fixes nothing, anyway.
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Nope the stamp is always there I'm afraid.


The closest to getting through it would be whistle blowers that make it out in one piece
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I view it as a form of natural selection, those who are smart enough to question everything will find out the truth in all its beauty and horror.
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They hid the beauty really, really well.
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This goes beyond simply witnessing something. You become a truth teller.

Telling the truth isn't because you want to become more popular...in fact, it will more likely make you more unpopular.

However, in the end, people will know you took the high road and did the right thing. Those who also understand the truth will respect you for what you did, but you never did it to earn anyone's respect, you did it because of your moral character.
When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.

Don't be afraid.
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I have found a few friends I tell.
I tell them. This happened.
You don’t have to believe me. I would not believe it
Then I tell them.

At this point it’s between me snd God
If they do t believe me their loss.
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For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so.

So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You don't have to cover up something no one believes is possible.
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I do if I don't want to be perceived as a fucking fruitloop.
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With that statement you've identified your priority in life. You're living with that choice. Do you like the results of your choice?

What you're saying is that if someone can make you look like a fool, they can control you. That's true for most people, isn't it.

We all make choices as to what's more important in our lives.
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You don't have to tell others what you know. Usually telling others only causes problems and fixes nothing, anyway.
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Not always. Sometimes they look both ways then tell you something you didn't know before.
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My wifes families experience
Thread: What the MK ULTRA PROJECT Did to My Family on CBC Links UPDATED (LSD) Go To Last Post

It took decades for the truth to come out and Helene (in the video) was mocked and made fun of for a very long time. Until it was won in court. If you do not have decades to search for the truth and illuminate it, it is a long hard road to follow.

It is up to you OP to determine the timeframe you wish to spend. That is a personal choice and I don't think anyone can really give advice unless they have been there. I don't know what you witnessed, and surely do not share it here. I've always been 'out there' so no one pays attention to my weirder stories anyhow. But I have 2 grown children and make my own way in the world as I do, so taking that into consideration, you simply have to ask yourself how far you are willing to go.

Loss of friends? Loss of income? Loss of the world that you inhabit. What amount of loss are you willing to endure? You have to estimate the Return on the Energy Invested in your quest before you make any decisions. At least that is my take on it.
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What's right is written on your heart.
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That's sweet. Useless, but sweet.


What's wrong got written on a lot of developing children's hearts as well...the tongue really does cleave to the roof of the mouth, its literal.

I certainly see the urgency around developing rock and roll
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or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil...
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Technically the CIA doesn't do that anymore. It goes through 3 sets of contractors, that way they have plausible deniability.

Actually, that just made me think of Seth Rich. And John Brennan.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.





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