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Jungleboogie User ID: 76648271 Canada 06/12/2019 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technically the CIA doesn't do that anymore. It goes through 3 sets of contractors, that way they have plausible deniability. Actually, that just made me think of Seth Rich. And John Brennan. Fuck, fuck, fuck I did not want to go down that road. SMH that sucks. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77181486 United States 06/12/2019 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People never want to believe that they are wrong or have been fooled. You can't do anything about it. They only come to believe the truth when it's too late. This is what it's like trying to tell people that Trump used people to get elected by telling them what they wanted to hear, and that he has a completely different agenda than the one he ran on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77114047 United States 06/12/2019 03:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You just have to accept certain things. If you can come to grips that you may just have a broken brain, maybe you can learn to fix it, if it is interfering with life. A lot of irrational fears come from a lack of knowledge. And with that lack of knowledge, there are barriers of fear that keep us from knowing more. Douche bag people don't help. You see those obviously fake videos on YouTube. Those are people trying to manipulate you for personal gratification. Lastly, objectivity is the key of the wise. Do you think they obtain anything by scratching at the surface and proclaiming to know everything? |
Furrry Pete User ID: 77719564 United States 06/12/2019 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you have the incredible terrible aloneness, it will never go away sometimes I wonder if you were one of those children taken right out of their homes and sent to another planet, then returned years later at the same age as you left with no earth time missing. I forget the name of the Space program, 24 and back or something I know that you were terribly traumatized This planet is ruled by an incomprehensible Evil. It really is mind boggling and it wants to ensnare and kill us all So that's probably just the answer, and you were in its path "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Dub-oNe User ID: 75596290 United States 06/12/2019 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have. For me it was just a matter of accepting the universe is much more fantastic then we've been lead to believe and there are those out there that do not want this info out as to retain power and control. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73295885 Very true Last Edited by Dub-oNe on 06/12/2019 04:08 AM RiseUpNAgaiNst |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/12/2019 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I peeked over the past few pages and this thread might have some of the most genuine answers I've seen in a long time. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/12/2019 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technically the CIA doesn't do that anymore. It goes through 3 sets of contractors, that way they have plausible deniability. Actually, that just made me think of Seth Rich. And John Brennan. Fuck, fuck, fuck I did not want to go down that road. SMH that sucks. Yeah. There's good and bad in that regard. I've seen deaths faked and people put into more "useful" roles that they probably didn't entirely hate. I've seen them faked and the people tortured for decades after. Have also seen a few die, whether executed in cold blood, shot in the heat of the moment, or just treated so terribly that it was bound to happen. It leaves you feeling empty. And powerless. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77723380 Serbia 06/12/2019 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technically the CIA doesn't do that anymore. It goes through 3 sets of contractors, that way they have plausible deniability. Technically, U.S. Marines don't protect U.S. embassies anymore, either. Went by the U.S. embassy in Belgrade just the other day, and there was not a single Marine in sight. There were, however a bunch of private "security" thugs (colloquially known as gorrilas) all around the place. The most interesting thing, however was... all of the gorrilas were unarmed. They only had radios clipped to their belts. Funnily enough, less than half an hour before that, I also saw two of our local MPs (military police) guys, buying some groceries from a shop across the street from a base (a shitload of local/Serbian military bases all around that particular part of the city, so no surprise there), and those guys were (as should be expected) carrying their personal sidearms. Let me repeat that once more: U.S. embassy's private "security" is waking around completely unarmed, while local MPs walk around with their sidearms in full display. I have no doubt that there's enough weapons inside the embassy to equip a small army (of gorrilas), but it appears to be all safely locked away. The CIA (the employer of those gorrilas) just doesn't trust the people who are supposed to be protecting the CIA, and is keeping them all disarmed (the embassy, I'm certain, comes only as second in that "security" arrangement, in the "who gives a fuck about them" kind of way). Yeah... sellouts working for the CIA are having a really tough time these days (buhuhu, I'm crying for you boys and girls... NOT!). Even FSB is giving its "assets" better flats and perks. While the CIA is employing completley-lost-in-time-and-space heroin junkies (in the flat above mine), the FSB is placing a whole family in the flat right next to mine... and, as a perk, is giving them enough money for complete renovations and 24/7/365 full video surveillance (and, undoubtedly, a backup somewhere in the vicinity, no more than a minute away). The encirclement is now complete. I, for one, now can't even move a finger without either the (dying out) CIA or the (zombie-ant) FSB keeping a detailed track of it (most likely in triplicates, because bureaucracy is a bitch). Here's what think about all these traitors... Punch-Clock Villain "These are characters who have no real grudge against the heroes, but are simply doing a job they're getting paid for. After hours, they're totally personable Joes who go hang out like anyone else. Most Punch-Clock Villains are not even particularly mean. Clear cut cases, will not be bad outside their job as it would undermine the existence of this trope." [link to tvtropes.org (secure)] ... and here's what they (most likely) think about themselves (and their bosses): Dude, Where's My Respect? "So, you're a hero ["WTF!? 'A hero'!!!???", I hear you say? Well, yes, they all see themselves as heroes, believe it or not] who's a fair way through your quest. You've slain fire-breathing dragons, or assassinated mob bosses, or torn apart an army base filled with hostile aliens. You've cut a swath through the land, slaughtering anything or anyone who gets in your way and spit in the face of impossible odds. You're well on your way to finishing the job, when you need a favor. Anybody who knows who you are should be too grateful or too scared to turn you down, right? Wrong!" [link to tvtropes.org (secure)] The world has turned into such a shitty comic book that it's not even funny anymore. |
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TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/12/2019 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technically the CIA doesn't do that anymore. It goes through 3 sets of contractors, that way they have plausible deniability. Technically, U.S. Marines don't protect U.S. embassies anymore, either. Went by the U.S. embassy in Belgrade just the other day, and there was not a single Marine in sight. There were, however a bunch of private "security" thugs (colloquially known as gorrilas) all around the place. The most interesting thing, however was... all of the gorrilas were unarmed. They only had radios clipped to their belts. Funnily enough, less than half an hour before that, I also saw two of our local MPs (military police) guys, buying some groceries from a shop across the street from a base (a shitload of local/Serbian military bases all around that particular part of the city, so no surprise there), and those guys were (as should be expected) carrying their personal sidearms. Let me repeat that once more: U.S. embassy's private "security" is waking around completely unarmed, while local MPs walk around with their sidearms in full display. I have no doubt that there's enough weapons inside the embassy to equip a small army (of gorrilas), but it appears to be all safely locked away. The CIA (the employer of those gorrilas) just doesn't trust the people who are supposed to be protecting the CIA, and is keeping them all disarmed (the embassy, I'm certain, comes only as second in that "security" arrangement, in the "who gives a fuck about them" kind of way). Yeah... sellouts working for the CIA are having a really tough time these days (buhuhu, I'm crying for you boys and girls... NOT!). Even FSB is giving its "assets" better flats and perks. While the CIA is employing completley-lost-in-time-and-space heroin junkies (in the flat above mine), the FSB is placing a whole family in the flat right next to mine... and, as a perk, is giving them enough money for complete renovations and 24/7/365 full video surveillance (and, undoubtedly, a backup somewhere in the vicinity, no more than a minute away). The encirclement is now complete. I, for one, now can't even move a finger without either the (dying out) CIA or the (zombie-ant) FSB keeping a detailed track of it (most likely in triplicates, because bureaucracy is a bitch). Here's what think about all these traitors... Punch-Clock Villain "These are characters who have no real grudge against the heroes, but are simply doing a job they're getting paid for. After hours, they're totally personable Joes who go hang out like anyone else. Most Punch-Clock Villains are not even particularly mean. Clear cut cases, will not be bad outside their job as it would undermine the existence of this trope." [link to tvtropes.org (secure)] ... and here's what they (most likely) think about themselves (and their bosses): Dude, Where's My Respect? "So, you're a hero ["WTF!? 'A hero'!!!???", I hear you say? Well, yes, they all see themselves as heroes, believe it or not] who's a fair way through your quest. You've slain fire-breathing dragons, or assassinated mob bosses, or torn apart an army base filled with hostile aliens. You've cut a swath through the land, slaughtering anything or anyone who gets in your way and spit in the face of impossible odds. You're well on your way to finishing the job, when you need a favor. Anybody who knows who you are should be too grateful or too scared to turn you down, right? Wrong!" [link to tvtropes.org (secure)] The world has turned into such a shitty comic book that it's not even funny anymore. They have really big guns at the US embassy in the UK, which is funny since the country they're standing in is supposed to be disarmed. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 06/12/2019 06:18 AM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75268770 United States 06/12/2019 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Regardless of what it was. Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil... How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe you're nuts than that it happened. Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side? Question: Why do you care about other people's thoughts? It is exciting to expand your own bandwidth of perception. There will always be masses of sleeping NPC Just follow your own path Have fun and don't take 3D too seriously |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77548268 Norway 06/12/2019 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Regardless of what it was. Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil... How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe you're nuts than that it happened. Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side? It's called life. |
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TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/12/2019 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Touche. I suppose that is how many of us landed here. You just have to think...it's a dirty business, 205206...it's a dirty business. And go from there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74273450 Taking notes.. Well, that's why we're here! Quoting: Anonymous CowardWe won't think you're fruitloops. Many of us can relate deeply, myself included. I haven't been on the same path as you but a group of ET's have been keeping tabs on my father's side of the family for over 40 years. I witnessed much that I will not even bother speaking about because very few will understand or relate. I still have alot of repressed memories to uncover and alot of conscious experience memories as well. I have somehow managed to come to terms with who am I am and remain a functioning person who pretends to fit in with this circus. I look forward to death, I look at it as my next adventure. I also appreciate my experience here in this body and life as much as I can. it eaiser to deal with that stuff than a family suicide. so i would say give it 12 months the FS takes 2-4 years. cheerio Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68903750 Not sure if this is a veiled threat or just advice, but it's been longer than a year. The crap just won't fade into the background no matter how much sand I throw on it. Stop giving a shit about what others think. Quoting: Olelady The truth is between you and God. No one else need be involved. Your experiences are what make you...you. They are your experiences. Everyone else can pound sand. True enough. looking at what society is being molded into, why would you even want to bother fitting in, i know its a moot point, but probably most of the people that come here feel like you to varying degrees, cognitive dissonance is a bitch, talkin to anyone mainstream wont help, and if you do make a chink in their brain armour, they will generally shut down, at the end of the day do what makes you happy, and remember, they are on to people like us and they love it when we trip over ourselves trying to make light in the miasma of shit they want us to swim in...just eat a muffin, (wo)man Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77722150 Yeah. Well put. hmm... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76845083 i'm not sure if you would want to do anything. I would live a long normal life full of goals and inspiration to live in harmony as much as you can . . I'm trying. It's just a wee bit difficult when normal is only 10% of your life experience. Trying to bury everything else leaves nothing but a shell of an existence. Take your secret knowledge Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72726126 forge it into a weapon they thought impossible then dominate them all ahahahahah Truth does not need nor require the approval of or acceptance by anyone, much less society. Truth is Truth, whether anyone believes in it or not, it remains the Truth. And Truth is all too often stranger than fiction, and in this realm of ignorance and untruth, and its earth being the epicentre and epitome in the ignorance of Truth, it is a pointless exercise to expect its residents to acknowledge Truth, much less embrace and incorporate it, as it is all too often an incomprehensible Truth to the physical mind knowledge - so the reality of it is that most cannot even begin to grasp the Truth and its wider implications - most cannot fathom things outside of their perception of but one of the realities relative and subjective to their existence and limited understanding of absolute Truth, not relative to this mental dimension or earthly experience in the physical universe spurious realm. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77486910 for Truth. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/12/2019 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck. I have had a few experiences that woke me up to reality. Back in the late 1990s, I worked on a government proposal with an Old Guy who had been in the Black World. As we worked, we chatted about our previous jobs. He mentioned that he worked for Ollie North in the period when we were helping the Contras against the Sandinistas. I had always thought that the accusations against Ollie were pure propaganda and slander. I innocently asked the Old Guy, "So, Ollie didn't REALLY smuggle drugs to help the Contras, did he?" My friend looked directly at me and said in a flat voice, "Ollie would do ANYTHING to defeat the communists". I was shocked and repeated the question. This time, with a twinkle in his eye, he repeated the answer with more emotion. I was dumbfounded. A US government guy, an Annapolis grad, a Colonel, no less, smuggled drugs to make money to defeat the commies? Why would the Old Guy lie? I think he was telling the truth and disapproved as much as I did, but, in that world, you don't ask questions or reprimand the boss. I have learned that almost anything is possible including a lot of what we never hear even as a rumor. On the other hand, there are a lot of CTs that are pure BS and it is obvious. My advice is: If you don't feel that what you saw was moral or right, you should find a way to get the story out without revealing your identity. He wasn't lying (well, maybe a little about motive). Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 06/12/2019 06:31 AM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77054078 United Kingdom 06/12/2019 06:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the space of a year the most surreal events occurred to me. I ended up sectioned as I desperately scrambled to make some kind of sense of it all. The why's and what's of this strange phenomenon that completely distorted my reality. I had a sense something was following me around, it could hear my thoughts and would sometimes respond by using near by people vocally or by its favorite method, coughing. I was also seeing lights in the sky over the course of a month before finding my self paralysed in my bedroom one night on my tip toes crouched down. There was an extremely loud whirling pulse like sound coming directly from above the house and I had the sense of electricity running through my brain. I couldnt move or call for help and this went on for about 15 seconds before the noise, sensation in my brain and being paralysed just stopped. I then feel back and banged my head on the door frame. I awoke then next morning g with a slight bump on my head so I know it happend! I was also visited by something demonic during broad daylight as I sat in an empty field leaning against this small empty building. I watched as this bird fly from one end of the field straight towards me and landed right in front of me on the hand railing and stared at me for what seemed like 10 seconds or so. It then flew above the building out of sight and that's when I started to hear loud hoof steps walking towards the wall I was leaning against coming from the other side. It sounded as heavy as a horse but only had 2 legs. I jumped up and ran home for dear life completely freaked out about the situation. Then there was this one which I Dare not really post because I know how crazy it seems (if the above all happening to one person wasn't already seemingly far fetched). I'll just say it, I know it happened... I was watching a YouTube video only the video seemed to start addressing me directly. It started using my name and then started referring to things I was thinking about. It was acting in a way to try and torment me rather than something like a positive experience. It raised its voice at me a few times. I couldn't believe what I was watching, how was this even possible? I work with video as part of my job so believe me this confused and scared me as to what I was witnessing. After the video ended I ran to get my partner who by now was getting very worried with regards to all this crazy phenomenon that I insisted had started to happen to me. This time I thought I can prove it. So I played the video to her and told her to listen. You know what? It didn't say anything like it had previously said. Didn't even use my name in fact the video was on the topic that I had originally clicked on to view. Those were some of the more terrifying things that happened but a lot more than this did occur. I was being stalked and harassed by something and I could not work out if it was demonic or alien. In the end it did get to much and I began to have suicidal thoughts. I couldn't handle what was happening. I felt cut off from everyone, alone in the experience, scared, traumatised, helpless and about every other negative emotion you can think of. Thankfully it has stopped. I kept telling my self that the bible says not to communicate with what ever it was (a lesson that took some months to work out as I desperately tried to figure what this energy was and what it wanted). I began ignoring all the other tricks it did and tried to get my head right again. I did lose my business and have caused doubt amongst people around me with regards to my mental condition. It's not been an easy ride and I still struggle with it at times. More so when I look back on it now as it seems almost impossible that it did happen. But it did - I am just thankful that what ever it was has backed off now. |
SuperHappyFunAmerica User ID: 76882824 United States 06/12/2019 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Regardless of what it was. Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil... How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe you're nuts than that it happened. Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side? Yes, we have been dealing with a lot of things the media is unwilling to cover. It's not that society will not believe you, it's that the media's magic spell is so strong that unless they cover something, it didn't happen. So, we've decided to have a Super Happy Fun parade in Boston to celebrate who we are and what we're about. The world is captivated by us, and now, they're going to be forced to cover the things we have to say. Keep your head up, don't let them get to you, and have a Super Happy Fun day! [link to www.superhappyfunamerica.com] Last Edited by SuperHappyFunAmerica on 06/12/2019 06:40 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20442394 United States 06/12/2019 06:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I view it as a form of natural selection, those who are smart enough to question everything will find out the truth in all its beauty and horror. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73295885 They hid the beauty really, really well. The beauty and majesty is hidden when one is entrenched in the lower levels of consciousness, from my experience anyway. At the core of it all there is no good and bad, light and dark. It is all one, just like the yin and yang symbol represents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77723460 Germany 06/12/2019 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you have to realize this has happened in the past corruption and a pecking order unfairness and human cruelty to humans is part of history. The GLP tablets from the fall of Rome talk of this. Then the Egyptian GLP hieroglyphs tell the tale of Obamma the Greats conquest of Egypt. (he re cut the sphinx in his own image.) Don't get me started on the Dark ages......GLP was there it was word of mouth spoken in taverns but it existed. and some in all past times could see. many burned, called witches and worshipers of A1 sauce. but GLP continues and some to this day can see. I predict GLP will be found on Mars encoded in a data cube but very old and unconfirmed by the global alliance of morans. GAM will run everything. Blessed be the GAM. So Fear not Worry not all is as it has always been and may always be. until ...... |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/12/2019 06:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Easier said than done Yes. Been Police for 8 years, fireman for 20 and a PI for 20 years. Also had an up close and personal experience with a UFO in the desert, Utah. Don't make a religion out of it. It meant nothing. Changed me forever, but I didn't go crazy over it. It takes 2.5 years to put it all to the back of your mind. You can forget about thinking about religion the same way as you did before. That part of your life is over. Yeah. But there's still meaning in life. It's just about letting it all flourish in the same garden, truth flowers and ordinary weeds as well. Noted on not making a religion of it. I know exactly how you feel as I'm in the same boat. The system is rigged, and so are peoples' minds, to not ever allow you clarity, closure, or credibility. Do not expect anyone to understand. You will get no support of any kind. I see the dilemma as an opportunity to grow stronger in spirit if you can avoid feeling like a victim, and you have been given a glimpse of what is hidden from almost everyone. But it is burdensome and lonely. You will have to live with that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75473435 Thank you. there is no agency nor private blackwater on this planet that scares me.i called the head of cia a cockroach.on a youtube video! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7025157 then sent it to her bosses! im beyond fear.i just wish the usa gov would wake the fuvk up.i doubt it matters anymore.its a gisnt vlusterfuck of idiocracy.i use to have faith but not anymore,cellphone zombyism and failing markets are the future.then starvation and desth.not a death of a country with a bang but a whimper. mostly at this point i jyst ignore,theres no way to fight the ocean,just swim and hope some day to make it to an island. I've been surfing that wave for a long time. I learned the only way to get to where I wanted to go was to find the one heading in the direction I was headed, and then ride it. It's not perfect, but it's better than swimming against the tide. Normies were always afraid and negative. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41871796 Only dead fish go with the flow. Is it me, or is this one very oceany topic? It’s secret/top secret. Be professional and keep it where it needs to be. Don’t take it personal. Park it... it is what it is. Move on, right. Good luck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24985939 You have truth or not. If you know what you saw, and have proof it was a real phenomenon rather than something faked (as in a guy in a Big Foot suit), then why worry about it. You saw what you saw and it is what it is. Quoting: GA Girl This is one of the reasons as to why many are Christians. If you witnessed a miracle, you have no option other than to believe regardless of what others say. I like to tell people who say there is no God/Jesus that I wish upon them a miracle. The crux of the matter is the loneliness. Buddha said, “If you find no better or equal on life’s path, walk alone; loneliness is better than the companionship of a fool.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77344644 The hard part is finding that peace within yourself, day after day, alone. It’s why solitary confinement is so effectively maddening. It’s also why suicide rate increases with age. Yeah. It's a difficult path to walk alone. Just find a friend or two that you can talk to about these things, and leave the normies alone. Just talk "normal" stuff to them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74632481 About the issue of something ongoing, you will have to just let go of that. There are a bazillion ongoing things that are bad, and none of us can do a damn thing about it. If you can't do anything about it, and I feel certain that you can't, then hand it off to the higher celestial beings to deal with it. You are only one person. No doubt about it, you would never have seen or become aware of some things if you had been able to do anything about them. Right? I didn't finish my post... If you had had the wherewithal to do something, it would have been hidden from you or you would have come to a bad end. Let it go. Nothing you can do. You make some valid points. Little fish, big ocean. I think it’s key to stay focused on your immediate sphere of influence. Raise a garden, be active in your local community. You can’t save the world, just live your life and focus on personal interactions and small things. You think they’re insignificant, but they’re not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77344644 This happened to me when I was very young, ~10ish. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77408763 I had my first experience with precognition, with a witness. It came as a flash...I told them EXACTLY what was about to happen, and it did. I was excited, they were shook, deeply. It changed our relationship forever, on the spot. The way we interacted, the way they talked to me, looked at me.. I was too young to understand that vocalizing such things might break others world views or notions. I've since learned better. Its also made this physical plain dull and boring, as all I've wanted since that day is to understand the other side, which is impossible. People who haven't experienced it can't fathom how it breaks 'Realities'. People think I'm a kook, and that's okay. Now I just enjoy the ride, so to speak. If only they knew... Perception is a game changer, for sure. It's not really about that for me, the problem is that in the past you could have argued for reality as it was, as it stands now even the area or space where the disbelievers are is pretty much shrinking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69520875 These people might laugh at you, but in a sense they're still getting left behind too. It's a very difficult problem and really the greed or this tribal style of religion is a catastrophy just waiting to happen. Yeah, the whole thing is a shipwreck. see, they can't ARGUE, that's why CENSORSHIP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69520875 Why can't they argue effectively ? That is what concerns me. Enough power to ditch the maintainence ? Obviously these freaks are always going to want to maintain the illusion so you don't have to worry there. Have they just become so corrupted and greedy that they can't stop ? If there was belief or morals behind what they do why shrink the space ? So then, it's not them but the enemy quite happy to operate on us to manipulate us ? Yep Me and god aren't on speaking terms right now. For me, I think the issue is in being expected to cover up something that continues to do damage, especially when given the free range of secrecy in which to do so. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft So, rather than being a one-time event, it's like watching a never-ending train wreck. Why would you assist in engaging with a cover-up? That’s being complicit and not a good place to be. Are you new here? When the perpetrators expect you to cover it up, when society doesn't want to see it and expects you to cover it up, when even the gov is cleaning the trail for their own benefit and reasons.... What the hell else is there to do? No one wants to see it. This has happened to me repeatedly, both privately and about the larger society's issues. On a private level, in business, many times I've warned people, higher ups etc, that something was going to happen, esp if certain actions were not taken. I was routinely ignored because people want to believe that nothing bad is going to happen - they want the normalcy bias. And I was always proven right. It didn't matter, no one congratulated me, LOL. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73724632 Just know that whether you are one in 7 billion, if you believe what you see is right, believe it and act upon it to save yourself and those you can. The others will perish and there is nothing you can do. Save yourself and be content. There will always be Cassandras. Her curse was to always be correct in her prophecies - and that no one would believe her. God, I have been there so many times in life. Maybe it's just in our nature to see the flaws and to try to protect those around us from them. see, they can't ARGUE, that's why CENSORSHIP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69520875 Why can't they argue effectively ? That is what concerns me. Enough power to ditch the maintainence ? Obviously these freaks are always going to want to maintain the illusion so you don't have to worry there. Have they just become so corrupted and greedy that they can't stop ? If there was belief or morals behind what they do why shrink the space ? So then, it's not them but the enemy quite happy to operate on us to manipulate us ? I've noticed that by and large, they've stopped arguing about many things - like chemtrails for example. It's because too many people know they're lying. The body of lies over, sometimes, decades, speaks for itself. No one of intelligence and honesty believes them anymore - look at how CNN has fallen. So because their lies no longer work, they have to crush the truth brutally. I fear that in a few years, maybe very few, they will actually take to killing people instead of just stopping videos. Yep. Yep. Yep. I saw, what must have been, a former linebacker trying to walk around dressed as a full on chick. Who deals with my "psychological side?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71908605 We'e all carrying that one. You just keep going not matter what. Never give in. There are some beautiful people on this planet. That helps. Have Faith. Dont sweat the stuff you cannot control- Ignore the nasty ones. Pity them. Forgive even when they arnt sorry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77135017 Be prepared for the worst- Really. So they can never harm you so deeply again. Keep getting up. Thanks. You don't have to tell others what you know. Usually telling others only causes problems and fixes nothing, anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77684926 Yeah. I've noticed. Nope the stamp is always there I'm afraid. Quoting: Stand Sure The closest to getting through it would be whistle blowers that make it out in one piece This goes beyond simply witnessing something. You become a truth teller. Quoting: Crypto-Tard Telling the truth isn't because you want to become more popular...in fact, it will more likely make you more unpopular. However, in the end, people will know you took the high road and did the right thing. Those who also understand the truth will respect you for what you did, but you never did it to earn anyone's respect, you did it because of your moral character. I have found a few friends I tell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76946232 I tell them. This happened. You don’t have to believe me. I would not believe it Then I tell them. At this point it’s between me snd God If they do t believe me their loss. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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How do you solve a problem? User ID: 77672128 United Kingdom 06/12/2019 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are time slips where you suddenly see a video of the same place but a different time . So I was in a car with some of my family we were waiting to turn right .We waited as there was a boy with shoulder length blonde brown slightly curl hair riding a bike down a path.He went past and there was a sort of pop but not so strong .I looked behind and there was no one there . one of my family saw him too. Strangely a few years later they built a cycle path where he was cycling .It was actually a grass verge when we saw him. I expect the hooves sound was something like that . The ancient Celts thought crows held the souls of dead warriors . I have written this before here . If you get interference from something you are not happy with you have the right to protect yourself . You have to ask Jesus to help .Because these things are annoying and pester other people and things I pray to Jesus saying . Please Jesus help . Then I order you to the feet of Jesus for judgement never interfering with man, woman ,child, animal ,thing or beast again in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ . Thank you . Sometimes during building renovations where things are made of stone the men working see things as they break the shape . Stone saves images like the computer does it is has silicon in it . I hope this is helping . Also you could make a file in your mind and store the experience .Then it is not available unless you wish to recall it as I have just done . Keep calm and carry on . |
TlvmmCpoft (OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 06/12/2019 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With that statement you've identified your priority in life. You're living with that choice. Do you like the results of your choice? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77140202 What you're saying is that if someone can make you look like a fool, they can control you. That's true for most people, isn't it. We all make choices as to what's more important in our lives. We've all let them control what we say at one point or another. To say or not to say. Is there even a correct choice? My wifes families experience Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC Thread: What the MK ULTRA PROJECT Did to My Family on CBC Links UPDATED (LSD) Go To Last Post It took decades for the truth to come out and Helene (in the video) was mocked and made fun of for a very long time. Until it was won in court. If you do not have decades to search for the truth and illuminate it, it is a long hard road to follow. It is up to you OP to determine the timeframe you wish to spend. That is a personal choice and I don't think anyone can really give advice unless they have been there. I don't know what you witnessed, and surely do not share it here. I've always been 'out there' so no one pays attention to my weirder stories anyhow. But I have 2 grown children and make my own way in the world as I do, so taking that into consideration, you simply have to ask yourself how far you are willing to go. Loss of friends? Loss of income? Loss of the world that you inhabit. What amount of loss are you willing to endure? You have to estimate the Return on the Energy Invested in your quest before you make any decisions. At least that is my take on it. You make a lot of valid points. People never want to believe that they are wrong or have been fooled. You can't do anything about it. They only come to believe the truth when it's too late. This is what it's like trying to tell people that Trump used people to get elected by telling them what they wanted to hear, and that he has a completely different agenda than the one he ran on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77181486 Yeah. Going against the flow is a nightmare, even when it's the only sane direction to take. You just have to accept certain things. If you can come to grips that you may just have a broken brain, maybe you can learn to fix it, if it is interfering with life. A lot of irrational fears come from a lack of knowledge. And with that lack of knowledge, there are barriers of fear that keep us from knowing more. Douche bag people don't help. You see those obviously fake videos on YouTube. Those are people trying to manipulate you for personal gratification. Lastly, objectivity is the key of the wise. Do you think they obtain anything by scratching at the surface and proclaiming to know everything? Quoting: Bravo888 you have the incredible terrible aloneness, it will never go away Quoting: Furrry Pete sometimes I wonder if you were one of those children taken right out of their homes and sent to another planet, then returned years later at the same age as you left with no earth time missing. I forget the name of the Space program, 24 and back or something I know that you were terribly traumatized This planet is ruled by an incomprehensible Evil. It really is mind boggling and it wants to ensnare and kill us all So that's probably just the answer, and you were in its path I was definitely in the path of something. Be strong and wait until the magnetic field decreases ....then it will start happening to more and more people ....you will be glad you have had a chance to be ready . Quoting: How do you solve a problem? From my experience, what a rollercoaster, I can tell you that it's eye-opening, so remove the emotions and focus on virtue. Virtue was the common element for me. Quoting: MissCleo Will try. Question: Why do you care about other people's thoughts? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75268770 It is exciting to expand your own bandwidth of perception. There will always be masses of sleeping NPC Just follow your own path Have fun and don't take 3D too seriously Because, in this life, we're surrounded by the damn NPCs. Sometimes I want to be a whole person, not a empty shell in 95% of situations, and whispering in the dark in the remaining 5%. Some are so static they will KILL you if you mess up their static view. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77548268 Yeah. That's a concern. In the space of a year the most surreal events occurred to me. I ended up sectioned as I desperately scrambled to make some kind of sense of it all. The why's and what's of this strange phenomenon that completely distorted my reality. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77054078 I had a sense something was following me around, it could hear my thoughts and would sometimes respond by using near by people vocally or by its favorite method, coughing. I was also seeing lights in the sky over the course of a month before finding my self paralysed in my bedroom one night on my tip toes crouched down. There was an extremely loud whirling pulse like sound coming directly from above the house and I had the sense of electricity running through my brain. I couldnt move or call for help and this went on for about 15 seconds before the noise, sensation in my brain and being paralysed just stopped. I then feel back and banged my head on the door frame. I awoke then next morning g with a slight bump on my head so I know it happend! I was also visited by something demonic during broad daylight as I sat in an empty field leaning against this small empty building. I watched as this bird fly from one end of the field straight towards me and landed right in front of me on the hand railing and stared at me for what seemed like 10 seconds or so. It then flew above the building out of sight and that's when I started to hear loud hoof steps walking towards the wall I was leaning against coming from the other side. It sounded as heavy as a horse but only had 2 legs. I jumped up and ran home for dear life completely freaked out about the situation. Then there was this one which I Dare not really post because I know how crazy it seems (if the above all happening to one person wasn't already seemingly far fetched). I'll just say it, I know it happened... I was watching a YouTube video only the video seemed to start addressing me directly. It started using my name and then started referring to things I was thinking about. It was acting in a way to try and torment me rather than something like a positive experience. It raised its voice at me a few times. I couldn't believe what I was watching, how was this even possible? I work with video as part of my job so believe me this confused and scared me as to what I was witnessing. After the video ended I ran to get my partner who by now was getting very worried with regards to all this crazy phenomenon that I insisted had started to happen to me. This time I thought I can prove it. So I played the video to her and told her to listen. You know what? It didn't say anything like it had previously said. Didn't even use my name in fact the video was on the topic that I had originally clicked on to view. Those were some of the more terrifying things that happened but a lot more than this did occur. I was being stalked and harassed by something and I could not work out if it was demonic or alien. In the end it did get to much and I began to have suicidal thoughts. I couldn't handle what was happening. I felt cut off from everyone, alone in the experience, scared, traumatised, helpless and about every other negative emotion you can think of. Thankfully it has stopped. I kept telling my self that the bible says not to communicate with what ever it was (a lesson that took some months to work out as I desperately tried to figure what this energy was and what it wanted). I began ignoring all the other tricks it did and tried to get my head right again. I did lose my business and have caused doubt amongst people around me with regards to my mental condition. It's not been an easy ride and I still struggle with it at times. More so when I look back on it now as it seems almost impossible that it did happen. But it did - I am just thankful that what ever it was has backed off now. Hang in there Yes, we have been dealing with a lot of things the media is unwilling to cover. It's not that society will not believe you, it's that the media's magic spell is so strong that unless they cover something, it didn't happen. Quoting: SuperHappyFunAmerica So, we've decided to have a Super Happy Fun parade in Boston to celebrate who we are and what we're about. The world is captivated by us, and now, they're going to be forced to cover the things we have to say. Keep your head up, don't let them get to you, and have a Super Happy Fun day! [link to www.superhappyfunamerica.com] Yeah, that sums up a lot of it. I hope you have a great parade :) OP you have to realize this has happened in the past corruption and a pecking order unfairness and human cruelty to humans is part of history. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77723460 The GLP tablets from the fall of Rome talk of this. Then the Egyptian GLP hieroglyphs tell the tale of Obamma the Greats conquest of Egypt. (he re cut the sphinx in his own image.) Don't get me started on the Dark ages......GLP was there it was word of mouth spoken in taverns but it existed. and some in all past times could see. many burned, called witches and worshipers of A1 sauce. but GLP continues and some to this day can see. I predict GLP will be found on Mars encoded in a data cube but very old and unconfirmed by the global alliance of morans. GAM will run everything. Blessed be the GAM. So Fear not Worry not all is as it has always been and may always be. until ...... I like that... "worshipers of A1 sauce" I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77179859 United States 06/12/2019 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, how do you deal with it when there will never be closure or acknowledgement? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Regardless of what it was. Whether you saw a green alien or watched the CIA execute someone on US soil... How do you deal with coming to terms with it knowing you'll never have society on your side? That they'd rather believe you're nuts than that it happened. Has anyone worked through that crap and come out the other side? Que sara sara. But help others along the way. |
Forever.the.Student User ID: 8593238 United States 06/12/2019 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your answer is found in Ezekiel 33... You are the watchman on the wall... Blow the trumpet... and tell the people what you know.. (the enemy is here) That is the entirety of your duty.. beyond that... once the people have been told.. the burden is theirs... to do their homework, etc., to make any choices that needs to be made... to blow the trumpet and warn others. If they choose not act (research, choose, tell others)... The blood of those who they might have saved is on their hands... not yours. Last Edited by Forever.the.Student on 06/12/2019 07:20 AM "Things are more like they are right now than they ever have been." - Dwight D. Eisenhower In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing - Mark Twain it's all mental masturbation. Seeing through the game isn't winning the game ! "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau |
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