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wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?

 
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wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
It's pretty erotic for their times I'd imagine.
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The says to knock yer wives sister up if yer wife cant produce. Its the funniest book ever. Not having a beard is damnation in that jam. They talk about witches too.
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The says to knock yer wives sister up if yer wife cant produce. Its the funniest book ever. Not having a beard is damnation in that jam. They talk about witches too.
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that first bit about getting someone else pregnant, isn't that standard fare for Kings?
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
It's pretty erotic for their times I'd imagine.
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Judethz wanks off to it every day.

Its why he goes through so many bibles.

Pages keep getting all clagged up.
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
It's pretty erotic for their times I'd imagine.
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Judethz wanks off to it every day.

Its why he goes through so many bibles.

Pages keep getting all clagged up.
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cruise
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…19 Yet she multiplied her promiscuity, remembering the days of her youth, when she had prostituted herself in the land of Egypt 20 and lusted after their lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of stallions. 21 So you revisited the indecency of your youth, when the Egyptians caressed your bosom and pressed your young breasts...

Ez3kiel has this verse about sluts craving massive cock and big cumshots like pornstars. YHWH is down with the graphic fuckfest...
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
The Bible is not the fairy tale some knuckleheads think it is.

The Book tells the dirty truth about people.
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
No, because it's not porn.

Fruit trays never were so sexual, though.

It's the most erotic thing you'll ever read that has not one word that can be proven to be erotic, or can it?

;-)

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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
Nothing is outdated or irrelevant.

People then were just like people now

and we certainly are not any better or smarter...
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…19 Yet she multiplied her promiscuity, remembering the days of her youth, when she had prostituted herself in the land of Egypt 20 and lusted after their lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of stallions. 21 So you revisited the indecency of your youth, when the Egyptians caressed your bosom and pressed your young breasts...

Ez3kiel has this verse about sluts craving massive cock and big cumshots like pornstars. YHWH is down with the graphic fuckfest...
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I never knew about that verse actually, wow. In the Bible's defense though it's talking about that behavior as being evil, but that still is over the top imo!
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The Bible is not the fairy tale some knuckleheads think it is.

The Book tells the dirty truth about people.
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to be fair, that's a good point.
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
Parts of Ezekiel read like purest smut, and they are meant to because Ezekiel is prophesying against those who had committed spiritual Porneia against God's covenant.

Not only is it the starkest smut, it's in a slang language at that.

You'd have to retranslate it from King James language to gutter street slang to get the feel of how raw Ezekiel is speaking in the original.

He's just getting straight up in your grill, no holds barred.
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
No, because it's not porn.

Fruit trays never were so sexual, though.

It's the most erotic thing you'll ever read that has not one word that can be proven to be erotic, or can it?

;-)
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It definitely utilizes erotic imagery. The question really is, is it obscene or base enough to be considered porn? But if you can't admit it's erotic I guess yeah you'll never admit it's porn.
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
Parts of Ezekiel read like purest smut, and they are meant to because Ezekiel is prophesying against those who had committed spiritual Porneia against God's covenant.

Not only is it the starkest smut, it's in a slang language at that.

You'd have to retranslate it from King James language to gutter street slang to get the feel of how raw Ezekiel is speaking in the original.

He's just getting straight up in your grill, no holds barred.
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it's the context there that doesn't make that part porn, it's when you're reading about it continually in SOS, so that you start imagining the breasts that are like doves, etc.
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
No, because it's not porn.

Fruit trays never were so sexual, though.

It's the most erotic thing you'll ever read that has not one word that can be proven to be erotic, or can it?

;-)
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It definitely utilizes erotic imagery. The question really is, is it obscene or base enough to be considered porn? But if you can't admit it's erotic I guess yeah you'll never admit it's porn.
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No, pornography (I mean true vulgar writing about fornication) is the profane abuse and inversion of sex.

Song of Songs is actual Holistic Tantra.

To the untrained eye, they may look similar, but they lead to completely opposite directions.

There is nothing 'overt' in Song of Songs, but ain't it though? ;-)

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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
No, because it's not porn.

Fruit trays never were so sexual, though.

It's the most erotic thing you'll ever read that has not one word that can be proven to be erotic, or can it?

;-)
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It definitely utilizes erotic imagery. The question really is, is it obscene or base enough to be considered porn? But if you can't admit it's erotic I guess yeah you'll never admit it's porn.
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No, porngraphy (I mean true vulgar writing about fornication) is the profane abuse and inversion of sex.

Song of Songs is actual Holistic Tantra.

To the untrained eye, they may look similar, but they lead to completely opposite directions.

There is nothing 'overt' in Song of Songs, but ain't it though? ;-)
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hmmmm... well that's actually a very compelling argument. Jury's still out in my book but I'll have to think about it some more.
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
No, because it's not porn.

Fruit trays never were so sexual, though.

It's the most erotic thing you'll ever read that has not one word that can be proven to be erotic, or can it?

;-)
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It definitely utilizes erotic imagery. The question really is, is it obscene or base enough to be considered porn? But if you can't admit it's erotic I guess yeah you'll never admit it's porn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71415603


No, porngraphy (I mean true vulgar writing about fornication) is the profane abuse and inversion of sex.

Song of Songs is actual Holistic Tantra.

To the untrained eye, they may look similar, but they lead to completely opposite directions.

There is nothing 'overt' in Song of Songs, but ain't it though? ;-)
 Quoting: anastasis888


hmmmm... well that's actually a very compelling argument. Jury's still out in my book but I'll have to think about it some more.
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There are 8 Chapters for the 8 spoked wheel of the year, by the way.

Song of Songs is a perfect Tantric Spell. Actually, it's the Tantric Spell.

Witches have tried to invert it and manipulate it for centuries in attempts to thieve its consciousness and postures.

But there's nothing like the real thing, baby.

You know the Stag Lord and Moon Goddess and what not that the fat women do who dance around in circles?

Yes, that's bastardized Song of Songs from Gerald Gardner (and especially Crowley, who intentionally wrote ritual inversions of Song of Songs).

I cannot even begin to tell you how many mysteries are held in that one small volume. It's bottled lightning.

Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/12/2019 12:50 AM
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It definitely utilizes erotic imagery. The question really is, is it obscene or base enough to be considered porn? But if you can't admit it's erotic I guess yeah you'll never admit it's porn.
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No, porngraphy (I mean true vulgar writing about fornication) is the profane abuse and inversion of sex.

Song of Songs is actual Holistic Tantra.

To the untrained eye, they may look similar, but they lead to completely opposite directions.

There is nothing 'overt' in Song of Songs, but ain't it though? ;-)
 Quoting: anastasis888


hmmmm... well that's actually a very compelling argument. Jury's still out in my book but I'll have to think about it some more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71415603


There are 8 Chapters for the 8 spoked wheel of the year, by the way.

Song of Songs is a perfect Tantric Spell. Actually, it's the Tantric Spell.

Witches have tried to invert it and manipulate it for centuries in attempts to thieve its consciousness and postures.

But there's nothing like the real thing, baby.

You know the Stag Lord and Moon Goddess and what not that the fat women do who dance around in circles?

Yes, that's bastardized Song of Songs from Gerald Gardner (and especially Crowley, who intentionally wrote ritual inversions of Song of Songs).

I cannot even begin to tell you how many mysteries are held in that one small volume. It's bottled lightning.
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which came first though, the Bible's version or the Hindi version?
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No, porngraphy (I mean true vulgar writing about fornication) is the profane abuse and inversion of sex.

Song of Songs is actual Holistic Tantra.

To the untrained eye, they may look similar, but they lead to completely opposite directions.

There is nothing 'overt' in Song of Songs, but ain't it though? ;-)
 Quoting: anastasis888


hmmmm... well that's actually a very compelling argument. Jury's still out in my book but I'll have to think about it some more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71415603


There are 8 Chapters for the 8 spoked wheel of the year, by the way.

Song of Songs is a perfect Tantric Spell. Actually, it's the Tantric Spell.

Witches have tried to invert it and manipulate it for centuries in attempts to thieve its consciousness and postures.

But there's nothing like the real thing, baby.

You know the Stag Lord and Moon Goddess and what not that the fat women do who dance around in circles?

Yes, that's bastardized Song of Songs from Gerald Gardner (and especially Crowley, who intentionally wrote ritual inversions of Song of Songs).

I cannot even begin to tell you how many mysteries are held in that one small volume. It's bottled lightning.
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which came first though, the Bible's version or the Hindi version?
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The Perso-Indians who settled India mostly took the eastern tantric philosophies from Babylon. Tantra is not unique to Hinduism. Hindu tantra is a bastardization of true tantra. Not all tantra is created equal.

You must understand that Song of Songs is not only tantric sexuality and yoga postures, but tantric combat.

Pop tantra today is really watered down mush. It doesn't actually do what tantra is supposed to do, which is edify the marriage bond into an invincible fortress of power.

Yes, I'm being serious. There's actually a Logos to sex, a meaning to it, a story to it. And that's what is lost today.

And the heptacontagon is where I would begin to explain how sex can be turned into a weapon based on Song of Songs.

But Song of Songs is dialectical sexual-spiritual warfare at every level in direct opposition to Babylon and specifically Baal.

Song of Songs is on such a high level of consciousness that it would simply blow the minds of the average church goer to catch the drift of even part of it.

That's why nobody teaches it, because nobody knows what it is, or how to use it. All they know is it appears to be some love poem about something.

They have no clue. It is an advanced, complete sexual Kabbalah combat manual. And they wouldn't believe it if you told them.

And that's why Babylon is winning.

You have a Tantric Yoga manual right in your Bible and don't even know it.

Am I suggesting that you have to be on par with the witches of ancient Babylon?

No, I'm saying you have to be better.

Last Edited by anastasis888 on 06/12/2019 01:35 AM
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
I like the part about ohola and oholibah having sex with men hung like horses
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
Porn is a human concept. God made the genitalia and He can talk about anything He wants
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
The only way you could fully experience the consciousness and energies in Song of Songs is to have a partner wack enough to practice with you.

Yes, I mean literally practice Song of Solomon postures and pathworkings. And it would have to be somebody as crazy as the Shulamite who would go that distance and actually make that ascension.

And they don't make many that crazy. I guess a porn star might be that crazy, but we're talking about getting your wife that crazy. In this world, porn stars don't exist anymore, because your wife is killing the porn star. No sweet little ladies at home here, this is all the great unknown.

If you're going to enter into the tantric world of Song of Songs experimentally, then you had better be ready to leave everything you have ever known behind and transform your entire reality.

Not crazy, CRAZY. Like, Cosmic Orgasm crazy.

Yeah, that crazy.

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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
It may seem truly bizarre to the modern ear that sex could be seen a martial art, but, if you truly have the bond of love between the husband and wife, their love toward one another is going to connect them together at some crazy levels.

What I'm wanting people to do is get 10 times crazier and learn the Craft of Solomon and re-establish the Logos of Love.

It's the Spiral Dance from here to eternity. And there's nothing else like it. It is the Mystery of Life itself.

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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
…19 Yet she multiplied her promiscuity, remembering the days of her youth, when she had prostituted herself in the land of Egypt 20 and lusted after their lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of stallions. 21 So you revisited the indecency of your youth, when the Egyptians caressed your bosom and pressed your young breasts...

Ez3kiel has this verse about sluts craving massive cock and big cumshots like pornstars. YHWH is down with the graphic fuckfest...
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No, it is using such vulgar language to describe the spiritual nature of Israel and Judah.

The Divine communicates in ways that are best suited to understand the emotion behind the meaning.

You have to understand, it is sinful, equally or perhaps of greater sin, to be too zealous then too lax.

"High Mindedness" is a person who places their own morality above the Heavenly Fathers(coobaptistsugh).

I doubt any of the Prohibitionists will make it through the pearly gates.

At a farmers festival there where a few. A younger relative that is interested in religion/spirituality/Christ, wanted to go talk to them, but I quickly corrected them and told them the prohibitionists where wicked high minded individuals, that thought they knew better then Christ and the Heavenly Father. You should of seen the look of shame on the prohibitionists faces.

When laid out using the Scripture and Gospel's, they can't defend their evil doing.

You have to remember "sex was designed to be a special gift for married couples", to paraphrase scripture.

Promiscuous sex is bad, and damages the proverbial heart. Everytime a person, man or woman, engages in sex, they bond with the person, and due to the failed nature of the bonding, a piece of their proverbial heart is damaged.

Making it that much harder each time, to form a real bond when they want to settle down.
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Re: wouldn't the Song of Solomon be considered porn back then?
No.