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Message Subject BREAKING! Situation out of control in Hong Kong!
Poster Handle oniongrass
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Which single statement did I make that's incorrect? And I'm a Republican by the way, you can look at my old posts and you won't find much communism there.
 Quoting: oniongrass

Because you're suggesting those people back in the 80's were wrong in what they were doing. I only remember what the USA media was showing us back then, but knowing their government and the rulings, those people were uprising against the tyranny. They had balls to stand against China. You're deflating their balls and the history they represented to their peoples of today. Not embarassment, but an awakening for China.
As for how we handle shit in America, well, we're writing on this website that would be banned in china and the chinese wouldn't even know it exists.
 Quoting: Arius

Yes, you only know what was on the US media then. I've talked to many Chinese about it, I've heard from and evaluated the leaders of it. I just know a lot more about it than you do.

So why don't you work from more facts, starting from what I wrote? The reason Wang Dan came to out of the way places in the USA for his publicity tour is that he didn't want informed questions. When he was about to get one, his numerous handlers hustled him off the stage and out of there.
 Quoting: oniongrass

Again, I understand I only saw the US media interpretations on the rebellion, however, I do know as many as other people who give a shit on how China's government ruled then. For the people to rebel as they were trying to do took balls and created relational talks to the citizens and the government. You deflated that situation, which has helped the relations of the government and it's people today. Unless you think it's ok for their government to rule with an iron fist, dictate who lives and doesn't, who gets to eat and not, and other harsh environments that we here haven't really had to live.
 Quoting: Arius

The Chinese government around then was actually quite good. Starting from a base of extreme poverty and isolation, life for the people was getting better every year. Many mistakes from Mao Zedong were being corrected. The beloved Deng Xiaoping was still a major figure in that government, I believe.

Those callow jerks running that operation in Tiananmen Square were refusing the government's entreaties to talk. They would have lost their power over that bunch of students, if they disbanded it.
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