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The puzzling properties and the mistery around the Meteorite found in a former Jesuit Convent in Chile, the rock dubbed Veas-01

 
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The puzzling properties and the mistery around the Meteorite found in a former Jesuit Convent in Chile, the rock dubbed Veas-01
Idly seating for decades in a field, ignored and forgotten, a seemingly unremarkable rusty rock that much later became dubbed "Veas-01" by a curious entrepreneur that discovered it and realized it was a big chunk of iron, has been researched and studied for over a decade now by a dedicated group of individuals that have come out with even more questions than when they begun this quest.

The field it rested upon, was part of a Jesuit State during the latest part of the Spanish colonial phase on Chile, called "La Ollería" ("the cooking pot shop")because it was where a very advanced for its time Jesuit Metal Works was located.

The rock itself had two curious rectangular shaped cavities, which seemed clearly manmade, althought the method for such carving is still unknown, and, given the properties of the material itself, is a puzzle on its own.

The rock, weighing over 6 tons, and which is 98% Iron, has a mix of what seems to be manmade and also meteoritic characteristics. It also emits a series of frequencies, and also has a very complex magnetic field. At one point, the head of the National Security Agency of the USA, was interested in purchasing the rock, and offered a non trivial sum for it, but the owners of the rock (which became owners of it through Chilean mining laws) turned the offer down, looking for a bigger amount.

The story of this rock mixes with the story of the Jesuit father that headed the Jesuit convent, of German origin, and points out to a hidden scientific knowledge possesed by that religious order and lost since, at least from general knowledge.

If you are so far interested, I invite you to read the following links that will paint much more details on this curious object and we can then comment on this.

[link to www.geofisica.cl] (English, link to pdf is dead, will try to find it elsewhere and link it here)

Edit: Found it, here it is in English. [link to www.geocities.ws] Enjoy, 26 pages of pure baffling science and anwers that beget only more questions!!!!!!



[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net (secure)] (Spanish, use Google translate, it has the whole story with all the "sides" and perhaps will be too much as the story of this meteorite is good for a sci fi spy novel)

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This paragraph should be enough to pick anyone's curiosity:

"Although the Veas-01 rock shows some potentially extraterrestrial properties, two perfectly rectangular holes (22 x 5.5 cms) indicate human intervention at temperatures up to 2500º C. As it will be described later in this document, despite the fact that the Veas-01 rock is mainly made out of pure iron, the metal itself does not melt at a temperature of 1515º C as common iron does. Only partial melting was accomplished at very high and unusual temperatures."

[link to www.geofisica.cl]
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The list of people that has shown interest in the Veas-01 is ripe with interesting names: (Link in English)

[link to rodolfo-novakovic.blogspot.com]

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The curious mineral crust of this weird meteorite (link in English):

[link to rodolfo-novakovic.blogspot.com]

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More characteristics of the Veas-01 from the technical-scientific point of view (In English):

[link to rodolfo-novakovic.blogspot.com]

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More interesting technical characteristics of Veas-01

(Low Ni content). In ENglish.

[link to rodolfo-novakovic.blogspot.com]

Chilean PhD Geologist preliminary report on Veas-01 (In English).

[link to rodolfo-novakovic.blogspot.com] (includes microphotographs of the minerals)

Micropetrographic analysis (In English):

[link to rodolfo-novakovic.blogspot.com]

More insights on Veas-01 by Chilean Geologist (in English).

[link to rodolfo-novakovic.blogspot.com]

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Puzzling metalographic analysis results and answers from Cambridge University on the metal matrix of Veas-01. (In English)

[link to rodolfo-novakovic.blogspot.com]
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I know there's a lot of reading, I have known about this for years, and the mistery surrounding this iron rock is full of juicy details, but for me the highlights are the interest shown by the NSA, the weird magnetic field, the electromagnetic emission of the rock (which some suspect was the reason why the NSA even knew about the rock before it was put on sale by its owner).

Also the unique properties and the fact that it was worked upon by Jesuits in the 1700's while it melts above 2500°C, much higher than normal iron. Also the possibility that a famous chalice of a local church, stolen in the 1980's was made of iron from this rock, and that the pieces have never been recovered since.

Some suspect this rock is a part of an very ancient spaceship (pre solar).

Some others suspect that the Jesuits had much more advanced knowledge than what is currently admitted from mainstream science, and perhaps they forged this as part of their experiments.

For all these reasons, this unsightly but deeply interesting rock has kept me intrigued since I knew about it over a decade ago.

I have FB contact with Rodolfo Novakovic who has been writing about Veas all these years. He ie very cryptic about his knowledge about the stone.

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VERY cool stuff! Thanks for sharing!
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VERY cool stuff! Thanks for sharing!
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Good that you like it!!!

I have been tempted to post on GLP on this for years, but just today managed to give me the time to do so.
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This is good stuff.
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This is good stuff.
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Agreed.

I hope you enjoy. This is a very interesting story, still unfolding but behind closed doors now.
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Another intriguing aspect of this rock is that the ratios of radioactive trace elements point out to an age older than we know the universe to be (between 4 to6 times older).

It also does not loose magnetism when heated above the curie point for iron, but it even strengthens in magnetism!!!

This material is as puzzling as it can get!!!
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Is it possible some natural, temperature-resistant, rectangular crystalline mineral formation was in the hole and then disintegrated or was removed or chipped away? Perhaps the iron simply melted around it and it's no longer there?
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Is it possible some natural, temperature-resistant, rectangular crystalline mineral formation was in the hole and then disintegrated or was removed or chipped away? Perhaps the iron simply melted around it and it's no longer there?
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Wow, that’s one convoluted idea. I’d say That’s possible, but within the context of all what is known about this strange object, unlikely.
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Don't let the muslims get ahold of it or we will end up with a South American Kaaba.
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Don't let the muslims get ahold of it or we will end up with a South American Kaaba.
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Whoa man what the hell were those Jesuits up to?
I read the whole GeoCities pdf and yea this is interesting.

In the appendix it mentioned a 22ton Meson de fierro rock that went missing?? did I get that right?

And Pepe, can you elaborate on the "pre-solar" spacecraft?
is that something to do with the anomalous isotopic age?

so many questions. Have you heard of the Sonoran aero club or NYMZA?
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Whoa man what the hell were those Jesuits up to?
I read the whole GeoCities pdf and yea this is interesting.

In the appendix it mentioned a 22ton Meson de fierro rock that went missing?? did I get that right?

And Pepe, can you elaborate on the "pre-solar" spacecraft?
is that something to do with the anomalous isotopic age?

so many questions. Have you heard of the Sonoran aero club or NYMZA?
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In the appendix it mentioned a 22ton Meson de fierro rock that went missing?? did I get that right?


Yes, it was a meteorite that the natives of the Chaco basin had found in "Campo del Cielo" (Sky Field) and had been used for extracting iron. It had been shaped to a table probably by the same natives. The only record of it is in the Jesuit chronicles, that's why it says it went missing.


And Pepe, can you elaborate on the "pre-solar" spacecraft?
is that something to do with the anomalous isotopic age?


The pre solar spacecraft idea is something that is mentioned in one of the many blog articles on one of the many pages Rodolfo Novakovic maintains. It is the account of an encounter of him and others with a Psychic that visited the place where the stone was held at the moment. She went bonkers in presence of the stone, and told a long rant about it being part of a probe/satellite/pulse weapon kind of thing of one ancient space faring civilization that was destroyed in a war that happened before the solar system even formed.

Rodolfo never paid much attention to the rant, just was amused by the creativity of the psychic.

so many questions. Have you heard of the Sonoran aero club or NYMZA?

Not until now, but I am googling it right after hitting the post buttion.
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Don't let the muslims get ahold of it or we will end up with a South American Kaaba.
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Rather, understand that the Jesuits are Muslim and so worship the same rocks as Islam

"Their rock is not our rock " takes on a whole new meaning
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Maybe it is a piece of the large area of strange material they found on the moon?
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wild, so a 22ton meteorite goes missing and a 6ton one is found???

where the hell are the craters? was this area seafloor?

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I'd be less amazed if this was just one of a bunch of rocks with the strange properties. But this is the only one.

Strange indeed.

I will guess it is the remains of a meteorite but that does not explain the square holes. Doesn't sound like it is a useful shape either.
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I'd be less amazed if this was just one of a bunch of rocks with the strange properties. But this is the only one.

Strange indeed.

I will guess it is the remains of a meteorite but that does not explain the square holes. Doesn't sound like it is a useful shape either.
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That's where Jesuits come in: They probably had some kind of ancient technology to handle this kind of material. The chalice of Calera de Tango cathedral, stolen in the 1980's, was said to have been of iron, and with a series of strange letter like symbols. It was also rust proof. Only a few low res pictures exist of it. Highly likely that chalice was forged out of the material taken from Veas-01 by the Jesuits in colonial times.
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Maybe it is a piece of the large area of strange material they found on the moon?
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The recently found mascon in the moon is thought to have been result of a very old impact (over 700 million years ago). The one found in Chile is suspected to have fallen to Earth less that 65 million years ago, along with the many others found in “Campo del Cielo” in the Chaco basin.
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Interesting. Thanks!
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I'd be less amazed if this was just one of a bunch of rocks with the strange properties. But this is the only one.

Strange indeed.

I will guess it is the remains of a meteorite but that does not explain the square holes. Doesn't sound like it is a useful shape either.
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Well, this meteorite has been determined by geological means as having fallen around the same time that the ones found in the Chaco basin between Argentina and Paraguay. But those are known to be typical iron nickel meteorites. That’s where the hypothesis of man made modifications arise, from the fact that it was found and remained historically in what was a Jesuit state, in a part that was known to have been a metalworks operation. The rectangular holes are highly likely to be performed by the Jesuit smiths. How is the big problem, as the meteorite has clear signals of being a meteorite, but also has signs that only appear on artificially produced materials, and is unusual in almost every single aspect respect to what is known of natural and man made iron objects. The bottom line idea is that whatever the origin of the metal, it was worked upon with technologies known to the jesuits but completely ignored by current mainstream science and metallurgy.

It is thinly veiled suggested by Rodolfo Novakovic in a series of sci fi short tales he wrote, that the Jesuits might have been guardians and descendants of a human looking extraterrestrial race that fled to Earth after being almost decimated by their enemies, and that they have blended here and become powerful but in the shadows as a parallel human society of high tech since the XIII century.

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I have not been able to keep the thread afloat lately, more people needs to see this.
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This is very weird and interesting, bumping to give you a chance to know about it.
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