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Easy read edited - Day 2/5 of 'I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything(2012), thread

 
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Easy read edited - Day 2/5 of 'I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything(2012), thread
This landmark GLP thread from 2012 has been edited and formatted for easy readability.
It only contains posts from Day-2 of the thread.

The regular text queries are from our own preeminent GLP members, the bold text are the responses from the Chemtrail chemicals chemist OP.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6323246
I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.
Can't tell you the name of my employers. Nor can I tell you the exact chemical compositions of the mixtures I helped developed. I can answer almost everything else.




OP, don't mind the resident Megalomaniac.
Question for you, do these chemicals have a bio accumulation? Do they go into small organisms and work the way up the food chain to us eventually or do they disappear after time?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6982701
Thanks for the support. I guess I feel a little bad that I don't know more about the common discussion topics around GLP other than chemtrails. But it does get annoying when someone hijacks your thread and starts spouting nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm trying to discuss.
You brought up an excellent question. Yes, some of our chemicals were designed to linger in the environment. Some up to a year, irregardless of subsequent weather. And in one case, we were asked to design a compound that would accumulate and move up through the food chain, although humans were not the end target organism. I can't tell you the specific animal, but I can say that the target organisms in the food chain were not mammals.


What would be a good way to avoid inhaling or coming in contact with these chemtrails. I mean were you exposed, or how do you protect yourself.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5777459
Sorry, I think I've answered this in the thread a few times, so I'll be brief. Surefire way is a full-face respirator. Do not skimp - money buys quality. If not that, than a half-mask air-purifying respirators. But you can't conceivably wear one of these in public without getting looks. If you think heavy chemtrailing is occurring, stay indoors and elevate your indoor air pressure so that air is leaving your house rather than coming in. Even better would be moving away from population centers altogether.

That makes sense. In this business, the left hand never knows what the right hand is doing. Only those on top are aware. But you sensed it. Now the question is, what is their agenda? Obviously, you have some concerns over populated areas. Why?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
Really can't speculate as to our contractor's agendas past what they asked us to do as far as the effects of the compounds. The reason I have concerns over populated areas is the amount of money. There is a LOT of money in what we did. Not just the R&D, but the production of the final result on a large scale. The sheer expenses required would make it all but ridiculous to spray on areas that aren't heavily populated.

OP, did you ever develop any products capable of irradicating such an offensive oder like the kind reeking off of this douche-bag?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8282066
I would never, NEVER want to bring harm to someone who gets phone calls from Oprah Winfrey!
When it comes to psychiatric disorders, all neurotransmitters are being manipulated in trials to obtain desired results. This has been occurring in medical research for a long time. The anti-depressant Serotonin would only achieve the desired results of mood stabilizing qualities.


This isn’t what I believe OP is discussing when he (or she) references G protein on STM inhibition. So my question still stands--for what purpose?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
I'm not sure if you're asking me what the possible purpose of our short term memory research was, or if you are throwing the question out to the rest of the readers. I really have no idea; it's such a broad tool that could be used in endless ways. The fact that we never succeeded makes it harder to know a true purpose. If we had made it farther through trials, our contractors might have started asking us to make the compound perform in more specific manners.

Were the chemicals designed to target the sex of the population?
Change the sex? Lower sperm count?
What about hallucinogens? Were those used?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1497040
There was a project or two that was meant to only target a specific gender. Very weird projects, seemed like true 'mad scientist' stuff and none of us could believe we were really getting paid to do such research.
Never experimented with gender alteration, nor sperm counts. There was a project for a very, very mild hallucinogen. Not even seeing real things, just slightly modifying messages coming from the optic nerves.


I sense that your gut reaction is telling you the purpose was something sinister. Something if you actually knew, you wouldn't want to believe.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
Well hell, pretty much everything we worked on was sinister on varying levels. We were never asked to develop chemicals that would make children happy and smart and cure cancer. (Sorry, I am terrible at sarcasm). But no, none of us at the lab thought we were doing anything truly good. We probably all just reconciled by believing that there wouldn't be anyone so evil in the world to use them for the purposes we feared they would.

I was tying in the research of STM inhibition with Chemtrails. Are Chemtrails only for weather modification?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
Absolutely not. If I had to try to apply numbers, I would say 60% of our projects were intended to elicit a reaction in mammals (read: humans). 30% involved weather modification. The remaining 10% fell into a broad "miscellaneous" category involving target animals other than mammals, environmental effects, etc.

So Bees for $1000? Did I win?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6982701
I really hope Monsanto never contracted us. They certainly have the money. I can see why Monsanto would like to eliminate bees (natural pollenators? how dare they, when Monsanto could charge people money to do the same thing), but the project I mentioned was not intended to affect insects, although insects were a rung in the ladder of the target food chain.

Those purposes being?
Quoting: Possum
I think I touched on most of the general purposes/goals of our various research projects on the first and second page of this thread. Sorry, I'm having trouble keeping up with all the questions. If you can't find what you're looking for on the first or second page of the thread, feel free to post again and I'll try to give you a better answer.


Unfortunately, history reveals the worse of your fears. So what is your intuition telling you about being in large population areas?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
My intuition tells me that large population areas are the ones receiving the heaviest dosage of these sorts of chemicals. It would just be more cost effective. I'm not saying middle-of-nowhere ruralville isn't being sprayed, but if it is, someone is paying a LOT of money for a very low level of cost-effectiveness.

Do you think the "calming agents" are the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015504
Don't know much about CFS, but from what I've read, it's quite possible.

Don't know much about CFS, but from what I've read, it's quite possible.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246
I meant to add that some of the symptoms are eerily similar to what we saw in trial animals.


That's what I thought...behavioral control. But why? For what agenda?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
I'm sorry, but any speculations I could try to make on our contractor's agendas would be just that - weak speculations. There are so many different reasons a person or group of individuals would want to control behavior, it's literally impossible for me to try to identify a single scenario that I thought had a better chance of being true than other possible scenarios. I realize it's kind of a cop-out answer, but I'm trying not to stray too far from what I know.


Yours hands are now washed, go to sleep and don,t blame yourself u were mind fuck like the rest of us money greedy fucks, hey it is their system, we are only meat puppets for their enjoyment, have a nice day.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7457916
I'm glad you have been able to live your entire life with absolutely zero regrets. Must be nice.


You already stated this, but I'm looking for more depth in the answer to the question. Dosing large population areas only makes economic sense. But the rationale behind the chemical exposure is what I'm getting at. What was the agenda of the employers? Knowing the chemical configuration, you must have a thesis.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
hypothesis...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
I'll make an attempt at a guess, but let's make sure we are on the same page - are we still talking about the failed short term memory prevention project?

This is an excellent thread thanks OP, The iridescent colors that come from the chemtrails would you have any idea on that, it looks like to me the same thing when they sprayed agent orange, thanks.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8221659
As far as iridescent colors, those are probably an unintended side effect of sunlight refracting off some interesting compounds. We did develop some mixtures that, in aerosol form, were not your typical grey/white...I always assumed these were used at night.


I'll make an attempt at a guess, but let's make sure we are on the same page - are we still talking about the failed short term memory prevention project?
That and Chemtrails...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
Chemtrails are too broad. Asking me to guess at the agenda behind chemtrails is like asking me to guess at the overlying message of all of Shakespeare's plays (bad analogy?). But as far as the short term memory project, I'll throw out a scenario.
Say there was a town. Say something bad happened to this town. Say this bad thing that happened to this town was not natural...perhaps an accident. Something that didn't happen the way it was supposed to. And this thing that happened, could maybe be passed off as a natural event...if you could just get the people of the town to believe. Spray something that impairs formation of short term memories. Convince them of your altered truth. Problem solved?


You've mentioned that your chemical cocktails would be nontoxic if delivered as indicated... what would the margin of error be if they didn't follow your directions? i.e. how easy would it have been for them to take something fairly 'safe' from you and use it in a sinister way?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311324
There are chemicals we developed that, if used in a drastically different manner that we directed, would be fatal. I don't like saying this. But I know that my supervisory was on our side when dealing with contractors, as far as being adamant about methods of deployment. And I haven't seen any entire towns dropping dead in the news, so I feel like most contractors followed our instructions, at least to some extent.

How are you supposed to generate positive air pressure in your house without drawing air from the outside first? Will hepa filters on the intake vents work?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7495843
Not really sure...it just seemed like a good idea when I wrote it. Although if your AC unit draws outside air contains a HEPA filter, that will block a fair amount of the sort of things we developed.

How do you know? Maybe you succeeded but were made to forget. Only half joking.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7495843
Maybe we succeeded, and they used our own chemicals against our lab! Made us think we had failed...only half joking.


How long do you think the use of chemical agents on the population has been going on? Do you think big pharma has a alot to do with this?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5452313
Ahh hell I think I answered this somewhere in the first few pages. Quick summary - it didn't take long after the dawn of modern chemistry, coupled with modern flight, for people with money to realize that chemicals could be used for less than positive purposes.
As far as big pharma, I really have no idea. Never knew who any of our contractors were, just that they had deep pockets. So possibly.


Actually, Shakespeare is an excellent analogy (and I love his plays). Your scenario makes sense. Could it be used more broadly in Chemtrails?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
I suppose a calmative agent could be used towards the same scenario, but not anywhere near as effectively...people would still know the truth as to what had really happened, but with certain chemicals, just not care.

From what i've researched, chemtrails are for weather modification, sky-based communication conduits, and of course affecting the life below in various ways. you probably didn't work too much on the aluminum salt based ones, which function as tiny interferometers for electromagnetic waves to either bounce off of or through.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311324
I do think it's funny that he keeps telling us he's leaving, but keeps coming back to post. He must be really bored.
It's more than possible that the bird die-offs were results of chemical spraying. However, the most recent ones happened long after I retired, so I can only guess. But we never tested our chemicals on birds. Also, they receive higher doses, being closer to the source.
I haven't watched any Youtube videos on the subject matter, and I don't really intend to. Mainly because I don't really want to learn anything more about the past I was involved in. I know what I know about the subject matter, and have no desire to learn anymore. They say ignorance is bliss, but I am far from ignorant on the matter.


So you were not directly working for a government?
Is it possible the bankers who control the money supply also controlled your research, given that they literally can print up money for whatever they want?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7495843
I don't know. Never knew a single thing about our contractors, other than what they wanted from our lab. And that they had plenty of money to throw around. Although, given the amounts of money they were indeed throwing around, I find it hard believe that all of it was printed just for that purpose - such an act would have to have noticeably affected inflation. But I'm not an economist.

What do you personally do to protect yourself?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7495843
I wish I could say I live off the grid, but that's obviously not true - I'm clearly posting on the internet. However, I do pay a fair amount extra to get internet out here. I live in a four room cabin a fair distance from any major town. Groceries? Drive nearly 90 miles to a town of about 700 people. But part of that is just because I love the outdoors. The other part is that I can't stand the city. Hell, I don't even know if my AC unit has a HEPA filter. Apparently my vacuum cleaner does. But where I live, I'm not too worried about it.


Would air filters in the house help remove the chemicals?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015504
Depends on the smallest size of particle they are capable of filtering. There's a huge difference between micrometers and nanometers.


The US is over $15 trillion in debt. Would the expense of your research compare to that?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7495843
No, absolutely not. I can't say for sure if our "grants" ever totaled in the billions in a given year, but certainly not trillions.

They spray hawaii and the grand canyon, out in the middle of nowhere. Maybe you're actually still in the denial stage like everyone else?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7495843
Hawaii is a population center, and an isolated one at that. A major tourist location, as well as a specific indigenous population.

The Grand Canyon is also a major tourist location. I already see one thing these two locations have in common. I would wager that my lonely neck of the woods is a major tourist location.
Northern Hemisphere?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
Yes. The GLP flag icon under my "anonymous coward" number is surprisingly accurate.


Grant money is usually government--not always. Years ago, it was not this way.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
That's why I put "grants" in quotations - it was almost never referred to as a grant. It was more like money that appeared with instructions for us.

I was Wondering about the cumulative effects of some of the used compounds...
Whether they had long term study, and the possible effects.
Cheers.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273422
Well, 95% of our testing was on rats. The other 5% pigs, and only in special cases. The short life cycle of rats allowed us to infer things about long term effects of most of our compounds. As stated before, preservation of human life was always a primary concern of our lab. So we never gave the OK to any compounds that looked as though they would have long term detrimental effects on humans, based on our animal testing.

Northern US? Mountains? Farmland?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
Getting a little too specific for my tastes. I am surrounded by trees. The terrain is not flat.

I was indirectly asking with weather modifications, where are safer locations from the effects of Chemtrails?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
Ohhh I'm an idiot. I thought you were asking about my whereabouts. Although the two questions are pretty similar - it's not an accident that I ended up living where I do. See my above post for what is hopefully the answer to your question. Trees naturally filter chemicals and toxins from the air. Mountains impede and disrupt natural air currents. Running water is also good as a chemical sink, but don't get your drinking water from it. Use a well - the deeper the better.

What do you suppose they would have done if you had refused to let them search your house when you retired?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7495843
Refusal wasn't an option.

Think about it.
Quoting: Apollo Illuminaughty
Hey, as long as your posts are on topic, I more than encourage your input. Interesting theory about Hawaii. If they aren't actually spraying there, maybe they want us to think they are. That's all outside of what I feel comfortable speculating about though.

Do trees add a barrier of protection from Chemtrails whereby flat lands increase their effectiveness? (Side question: What is your favorite Shakespeare play?)
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5114133
Probably Julius Caesar. Yours?
I don't know where the planes take off or land from, nor who operates them. Although I would guess that they can't all be military planes. I am pretty sure that many commercial pilots are spraying without even knowing it - the less people that know, the better.
I love living in the woods. Always have, but having a job sometimes doesn't permit it. Now that I'm retired, I'm free to do what I want.
No, it is not wrong to assume I lived in a populated area when I was employed. Not a major metropolitan area, but not a small town either. Although our lab was on the very outskirts of town.
I did notice a different frame of mind after moving from the city to the woods. Not only when I made the final move...even just visiting the woods. I don't know if it's a result of a lack of wi-fi, cell towers, etc. But it's heaven on Earth. I am probably in just as good of physical shape as when I retired, but I work outdoors nearly every day now...not the case when I was employed.
The people who made it clear that refusal wasn't an option weren't a part of our lab. I have no clue who they worked for. I put in my four weeks notice. The next day, two men in suits were in our lab. Just watching us. They were there every day, before I got there in the morning and before I left at the end of the day, every day for those last four weeks of my job. Extremely observant. On my final day, they informed me that they would need all of my work possessions, and that they would need to search my house. They made it very clear that I did not want to know what would happen if I refused. I knew I had nothing to hide, so I agreed.
I have made large (anonymous) donations to various charities since retirement. Not that it even comes close to atonement for what I have done, in my eyes. I pray that they stop spraying over Hawaii. It was a beautiful and untouched paradise before man brought invasive species, followed by terrible chemicals.
Yes, it's kind of scary - we were paid for our research. If said research was, in the end, unsuccessful, all of our lab notebooks, results, evidence, remaining compounds became property of the contractor. The lab was basically wiped clean following a successful or unsuccessful project. None of the progress nor results belong to us.
By physical, do you mean real...as in tangible jets? Or by physical do you mean commercial jets. I honestly don't think it's feasible to keep every square inch of even the entire USA covered all the time, much less the entire planet. I've heard that some spy drones can stay in the air for 2-4 days at a time, but that's carrying zero payload. These chemical payloads are not weightless.
You're second question is getting a little outside my realm of things, suggesting that our contractors don't breath our air and are from "somewhere" else. Sorry. However, I wouldn't be surprised if our contractors had some method of avoiding the very chemicals they were contracting us to develop. But I do believe that they are "of this world".


Happy to hear you are staying healthy.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6982701
I hunt, fish, gather. I know this could bring me in contact with chemicals, but like I said, I don't really feel any fear of those given where I live. When I shop at the grocery store, I avoid anything with more than seven ingredients. I don't buy it if I don't recognize an ingredient, but that may just be the chemist in me.
Please, everyone, stop insulting this Apollo fellow. This will only keep bringing him back to this thread. Let's try to keep this a civil discussion.


on topic: how many people that you worked with randomly disappeared over the years?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7902399
None. Ours was a small lab - never more than 10 full time employees. Well, shit. Now that you mention it, there was a kid. Our lab didn't hire often. As in, every 25 years often. They liked to keep two batches of employees - young and old. When I started, I started along with four other kids in their late twenties/early thirties. The rest of the researchers were in their mid forties. They were our mentors. Anyways, when the group I started with was getting into our forties, they hired the next batch of young kids fresh out of grad school. One of them was a real cocky guy. Thought he knew everything about chemistry; had no interest in learning from us older fellows. Felt we had nothing to learn. From what I remember, he had a real problem with alcohol. Going out to bars, getting drunk, getting into fights, coming into work with a black eye. Anyway, he stopped coming into work one day. Supervisors said he quit. We didn't ask any questions, nor did we try to contact him. That's just how it was.
My question was why would they HEAVILY spray their TOP BRASS cities that are mostly military, professors and civilian workers
One city I have in mind ranks as the most chemtrailed city in the USA and its the most populous University, Government Employee, and Soldier population in the USA. They are not holed up but have housing residences inside and outside the city


Appreciate if you answer my question please, cause you said youd answer questions pertaining to subject,
Goodnite.
Quoting: Apollo Illuminaughty
I've stated before that I have absolutely no idea as to who my contractors were, nor their end intentions. I can only speculate, and, if you've been reading my answers, you'd know that I don't like to speculate about that which I don't know anything about.
I think it's human nature. You'd be better off asking an anthropologist. But from what I've seen, humans love to control.
That reminds me of a funny story. Contractor came to our lab - wanted us to develop a chemical that would coat the ground, be ingested by earthworms so that they would dig down and get into people's well water. We worked on this for a few weeks before one of my lab mates pointed out that earthworms never dig more than 30 feet, and therefore were completely incapable of getting into well water. We spent a few more weeks on the project to make a little more money, informed our contractor of our scientific discovery pertaining to the burrowing depth of the common earthworm, and the project was scrapped.
Sometimes the people who want the most control are also the dumbest.


If you were legit, then you'd be pushing up daisies. But since you are a disinfo piece 'o shit shill, you've got nothing to worry about.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8278017
Sure. You don't think that, with the money I made during my career, I would have taken some precautions as to my own safety? You'd have to be an idiot to think that I retired, moved, and just started twiddling my thumbs.
Hey all,
Time for me to hit the sack. I'm not going to lie, it has felt really good getting some of this off my chest. Not having been able to tell anyone for decades. Which means I might be back tomorrow night. So if you have more questions, either post them or save them for tomorrow night - I will try my best to come back. Thanks for everything.


Hey all,
Wow...never expected this many posts. Pretty amazing. I'll try to hit some questions that have been posted since last night as well as some new ones before I hit the hay tonight. Glad to see there is interest.
Also , can you target just mosquitoes , with no higher food chain effect ?
Quoting: Foresight
I don't see why not. One would just need to test said chemicals on mosquito's predators (and their predators, and so on) to ensure that they would not experience any ill effects. But that's just the food chain. Mosquitos like to bite a wide variety of organisms, which greatly increases the number of species that could come in contact with said chemical.
Were any of the chemical agents designed to produce effects that made people:
a little confused
more suggestable/programmable
more fearful
more sociopathic
more hungry
depressed
angry
stressed
paranoid
materialistic
violent


Just wondering how much chemtrails can be pinned on some of the above traits that seem to be increasing in modern society.
Quoting: TruthSeeker 2137019
We worked on multiple projects involving most of the effects you listed. The ones that don't have anything to do with projects we worked on would be "sociopathic", "materialistic", "paranoid", "hungry", and "violent". Those also seem like the five that would be hardest to elicit using chemical compounds.

Yes, I found that rather odd as well. Also if OP retired a decade ago and worked on chemtrails for 17 years , let's see, chemtrails started being sprayed in or around 1985..
Op is this correct?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8314968
No. Hell, crop dusting was routine by the end of the 1920s. Aerial application of chemicals, at least in a legal and transparent sense, has been going on for nearly a century. My guess is that it didn't take very long for powerful people to realize that such tactics could just as easily be used on humans instead of plants.

You mention something about some chemtrails being the target of gender, was that for male or female? And why?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8343782
This was one of the first projects I worked on, in my first year of employment. Our goal was to decrease male sex drive without affecting that of women. I found this odd, because at the time there were known chemicals that inhibited the male libido. Developing an aerially dispersed solution was where we came in.

OP, did you develope chemicals or mix chemicals? there is a difference.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8328599
Both. Generally, we developed a single chemical or small handful of chemicals for a certain purpose. We then had to go about preparing them to be dispersed in an aerial manner. This involved mixing with other, inert chemicals.
The project involving creating symptoms that comes to mind involved reproducing flu-like symptoms that would not persist for longer than a week.


LOL Op that one is funny...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8343782
In a twisted way, I suppose it is.

Thanks again for both your thread, and your patience for dealing with the off-topic posters.
Quoting: nexuseditor
Interesting, I've never heard of Barium being used for the purpose of enhancing absorption through the skin. As per your question, no, we generally avoided any attempts to "amplify" or "enhance" absorption of our chemicals. This is generally a dangerous practice, and can have varying and drastically unintended consequences. Especially on the young, old, and those with certain types of immunodeficiency.


Well, so you have no idea why, was it to do with male rage or something?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8343782
No idea what our contractors were interested in accomplishing by this.

Sometimes it seems that women in populated areas are hitting their 'hot flushes' (they call them 'power surges') in their thirties instead of their forties.
Just curious.
Quoting: nexuseditor
No, never worked on anything involving menopause. My guess is these changes (if they are indeed occurring) could just as easily have a societal influence as much as an environmental one. But that's pretty far outside the realm of my specialization.

Why spray in the daylight? Secret shit is best done under the cover of darkness.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2681607
Good question. It does seem somewhat counterproductive, but I do remember one project where the compound had to be sufficiently activated by UV rays for it to have its desired effect.

"The penetration enhancers, such as propylene glycol, glycerine, dimethyl sulphoxide and ethanol (alcohol), also modify the nature of the stratum corneum membrane, even to a permanent extent."
cheers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6323246
That makes more sense. Not sure where that paragraph is from, but it supports my previous statement - such "enhancers" can have permanent effects on the stratum corneum (cornified/outer layer of the skin). That poses way too much of a risk to use in ADC mixtures. The outer layer of skin is actually the least of your worries when using such chemicals in an attempt to enhance effects of your primary compounds. However, the "penetration enhancers" you listed are pretty tame compared to some chemicals we used in animal trials in the lab. In fact, more than one of those can be found in standard skin lotion.

One pharmacist I know says the best rule of thumb is: don't put anything on your skin on a regular basis, that you could eat or drink safely.
Quoting: nexuseditor
Continual use of most common hand lotions will actually cause the skin top stop producing its own natural oils and moisturizers. Your skin basically becomes dependent on the lotion to keep it moisturized. If you stop using it, your skin will be worse off than it was when you started. Fun little off-topic tangent.

I'm guessing that the contractors must have had some sort of access to the health records of hospitals and doctors in the areas being targeted in order to arrive at a conclusion or not?
Quoting: nexuseditor
That all happened way beyond my involvement in what we called the "chemical chain". We produced the chemical mixtures according to our contractor's desired effects, advised our contractors on how to properly use them for safest and most effective results, and then proceeded to hand everything over that was involved in the project. Notebooks, reagents, leftover waste, and in some cases, all equipment.
It's certainly possible that some chemicals we developed which had the desired effects on rats and/or pigs did not have the same desired effect on humans. I suppose our contractor would not call these cases a success. I don't know, we never got feedback on our work.


Typed in "Chemtrails at night"...yep that was it, the trail I saw. ( then chemtrials debunked ) Crazy wierd I hit all the websites...and I thought I was crazy...anything from " completly normal....nothing to see here..) to ( death and destruction & hiding planets)popped up. I personally can see changes in the contrails left behind & the patterns that do not seem normal. Is this nefarious? Is this a upper climate change? Dunno. Anyways, my question to (OP) is:
Did the contracters actually ask for an airborn chemical that could in some way ( small or smaller ) alter the way humans percieve ? To me, personally, it seem like water or food or OTC drugs would be a much more effective delivery system than spraying at 10,20,30 k feet. Again, I see strange things in the sky....just not sure what to make of them.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5050645
Perception is a tricky thing. Considering that the majority of my research took places in the 1990s, being able to alter human perception in a desired manner made finding a needle in a haystack seem like a fun way to pass the time. That being said, we were approached a few times with the request of chemicals that would alter "perception", in some sense. But these requests were always vague, never specific - this made accomplishing their goals extremely tricky.
Now I am not trying to make you feel bad or anything here - but are you NOT aware of the mid-late 90s chemtrails in parts of the USA where people were sick for weeks and months and many even died as a result of exposure to chemtrails? [And I'm talking the type of chemtrails that whole towns came out to watch in broad daylight as massive tic-tac-toe formations were in the sky and cobwebs of 'stuff' rained down upon the people resulting in massive hospitalisations etc.


Edited to add: I'm more curious about the info effects of compartmentalisation that I sense occurring here.
Quoting: nexuseditor
I've honestly never heard about any of that. I was too enveloped in my job to spend time researching chemtrails. Hell, at the time, I didn't even know that was the common term for them. In the lab we generally referred to them as ADCs. If what you describe is true, it was a result of either:
1. Our products being used in manner conflicting with our recommendations
2. Products of another lab
3. Mass hysteria/delusion


Did you accomplish their goals? What drugs were used, can you say?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8343782
In most projects like these, no. Our directions were so vague than it was nearly impossible to gauge any progress we made as really being "successful" versus "unsuccessful". And I can't really name the drugs as none of them had common names - we were really developing chemicals that had never been synthesized before, or if they had, their effects had gone unnoticed at the time. I also will not post any chemical formulas or compounds of products we developed, for obvious reasons.

OP, I have been studying Chemtrail conspiracy theory for over two years and what you have presented sounds very reasonable. . . you may or may not know the answer to the following questions, but if you don't mind take a shot. . .THANKs!!!!! I especially agree with your position on contrail/Chemtrail visibility and inability to distinguish between the two. . . .
1) what chemicals are capable of being dispersed through a jet engine without limiting thrust and corroding the engine. . . ?
2) how can you mix chemicals in fuel and at what part of the process would you do so?
3) If you designed a system to disperse aerosols how would you do it by aircraft and what substances would you use. . . ?
Quoting: George B
1. A common misconception I've noticed in chemtrail discussions is that ADCs must be dispersed through the engines of the aircraft delivering them. This would be incredibly dangerous to the aircraft. I can say this with some certainty because no chemicals we ever worked on were designed to be mixed with jet fuel. It makes sense that an aircraft would spray during conditions where it was producing natural contrails, as to cover up the released spray. My guess is that our ADCs were dispersed through nozzles in the aircraft fuselage located as close to the engine exhausts as possible, as to better cover the release up with natural contrails. However, this is just my personal speculation.
2. See above.
3. I think my speculation in the second half of my first answer probably answers this question. I would hide nozzles as close to engine exhausts as possible, in order to utilize natural contrails to cover up the released spray.


From what I gather OP is this what you were working on? [link to conspiration.ca]
Quoting: Kinect
No.
1. This looks like a patent. We never attempted to patent anything.
2. These researchers are attempting to absorb UV rays. The project I mentioned before involved a chemical that required sufficient UV exposure to activate. The purpose was not to absorb UV rays, it just was necessary to harness their energy to activate our primary compound.


OP, maybe my question wasn't so much about "altering perception" as to the delivery system. Did the contracters ask about all delivery systems or just airborn ? Or did your lab suggest the best delivery system. Again, I'm not totally convinced of sneaky wrongdoing.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5050645
I never worked on a project that did not involve airborne dispersal. However, if a project involved targeting groundwater using ADCs, than perhaps ingestion would be the end delivery system in that case.


With excellent atmospheric conditions. . . At what altitude do you suspect it would need to be released? .. .
Quoting: George B
You aren't going to find many complicated compounds that can withstand the heat found in a standard jet engine. Anything that could would not be able to achieve the complicated effects we were tasked with.
Anyhow, volume isn't the right way to look at this because some mixtures were meant to reach ground level in concentrations as low as one part per billion, others in much higher concentrations. Volume also depends on the concentration of the final mixture itself - there are always at least a handful of inactive ingredients that can sometimes comprise the bulk of the mixture. So volume needed to blanket a city of that size would vary on a great scale. As far as altitude, we developed mixtures intended to be dispersed anywhere between 5,000 and 50,000 feet.


What I was told by my Government Friends is most logical cause its the only reason they would spray over their own and why are Sun looks freaking white instead of yellow and why the leaves never fell off for Autumn.
As I said before, TOP BRASS military cities are sprayed the most. They protect their own.
No convincing you,
I believe in Aspartame though, and guess Ill have to wait for a detailed post on that , which will never come.
Thanks for what its worth..
Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI
I never worked on any mixtures involving Aspartame, sorry.

This landmark GLP thread from 2012 has been edited and formatted for easy readability.
It only contains posts from Day-5 of the thread.

The regular text queries are from our own preeminent GLP members, the bold text are the responses from the Chemtrail chemicals chemist OP.

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I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.
Can't tell you the name of my employers. Nor can I tell you the exact chemical compositions of the mixtures I helped developed. I can answer almost everything else.




were you bugged or followed at any time?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4591296
If I was, I honestly had no idea.

Sounds crazy until you read the recent story about methane plumes venting from the Arctic at levels not seen for millions of years.
Anyway, do you believe he was real or do you think he was a hoax?
Hope you read this and I'm looking forwrd to your response.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3186637
If there are ADCs that have been developed for combating global warming, my lab never played a role in their development.
I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.


OP,
Are you back?
Then one more time, are you that confident?
btw I made a error in calculating the capacity of a KC767 refueler(used water weight instead of JetA weight) comes to 30,000 gallon capacity. So application rates of .03 gallon per acre would be adequate for your ADCs?
OP, thx for playing along...
wait, whole city of Chicago going to the ER? are you that confident of ADC effectiveness?
Quoting: uscrusader1
[This is hypothetical, of course. We were never asked to include any such markers in our final products. But for the sake of the hypothetical situation, it could either be inhaled or absorbed through skin, and you would definitely not want it to send people to the ER. Not if you want the entire city ending up in the ER.
I think I mentioned this before - 0.03 gallons is an irrelevant number, given how much the concentration of the primary compound in a final mixture can vary. But yes, for some of the more concentrated mixtures, this figure is plausible.


did you work in south america?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8426238
No. Our research laboratory was based in the United States.

is it possible your job was just a diversion? created only to muddy waters?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4591296
If my job was a diversion, it would probably be the most expensive diversion in they history of mankind. So my guess is no.

ok, so I will add what I know to the thread.
1. pheromones exist for humans, can be synthesized and work. in small doses.
2. we are very chemical and effected by chemicals around us. I have had a kid regress after vaccination and then also be cured through biomedical intervention with diet and supplements. Homeopathy works.
3. people at the top are idiots..
so given what I know for 1, 2 and 3.. this story is not completely implausible.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4591296
As much as I have tried to keep this thread on topic, I would like to throw in my two cents on homeopathy...any "results" achieved by homeopathy are a placebo effect at best. I'm not going to get into an argument about this, although I'm sure more than one person on these forums would be willing to. I'm just giving my opinion.

Do you think the "calming agents" are the cause of chronic fatigue syndrome?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015504
Don't know much about CFS, but from what I've read, it's quite possible.
I meant to add that some of the symptoms are eerily similar to what we saw in trial animals.

(from page 11) Can you expand on this please? What symptoms would have been seen in trial animals?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6383062
General malaise, ineffective sleep cycles, orthostatic instability, mood swings, to name a few.

do chemtrails have magnetic properties?
Hpw are they affected when mouns bombard them?
Are chemtrails stable? will they break down after exposer?
Do they need to be kept at a certain temperature until released?
is flouride found in them?
are they released in the planes engine with fuel vapor, or seperate holding tanks?
Why is it that I don't see a release valve on planes? Why don't I see chemicals being loaded onto the plane at the airport?
Do you subject your chemicals to electro magnetic radiation?
How long ago where chemtrails introduced?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7916217
Magnetic properties: Not intentionally.
Stable/break down after exposure: Our projects covered pretty much the whole spectrum in this department. Some chemicals were meant to degrade within 48 hours of deployment. Others were meant to persist in the environment for up to a year.
Temperature: In some cases, yes, storage temperature and pressure were very important.
Fluoride: In the reduced anion form of fluorine (F-)? No.
Are chemtrails released in engines with fuel vapor or separate tanks: None of the projects we ever worked on were intended to be mixed with jet fuel. Everything we developed was meant for standalone deployment.
Why can't you see release valves on planes/see people loading chemicals: No clue. I never played a role in deployment methods. Anything I could offer would be pure speculation.
Did we subject our chemicals to electromagnetic radiation: No.
How long ago were chemtrails introduced: I answered this earlier. In short - crop dusting was routine by the 1930s. My guess is that it didn't take long for people with power and money to realize that the same methods could be used on people rather than plants. This is also speculation - I wasn't alive in the 1930s.


Op: Why now? Why did you decide to 'somewhat' disclose now? In 2012? I mean, with all that is happening around the world, economies collapsing, governments out of control including our own, the military industrial complex in full swing, the weaponization of space. The list goes on and on.
It's like you know something, or at the very least dread something awful is about to happen. How lucky for you that you have situated yourself in a somewhat safe place - does this mean you are planning on surviving some catastrophe? Would your speaking up a few years ago have made a difference? I believe it would have.
You say 'good luck' with going after the government - is this because of the hidden government? If enough of the populace all around the world united for this cause, then things could change, no? Or, are you disclosing now because we have passed a point of no return and it doesn't much matter for you anymore?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1337468
I chose to disclose now because I only found out about the GLP forums within the past year. Until then, I had not found any public forum that might believe what I had to say. I think you are over dramatizing things.

OP: is there some food/substance that could help us neutralize, restore balance to our body chemistry (and well being in general) after being affected by chemtrails (i know you were doing lots of different mixes)?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8428733
Not that I can think of. Try not to waste your money on so called "de-tox" kits - 99% of these are complete bullshit.

OP I have a question?
Would you say the affects of the agents you were delivering too humans would cause symptoms of illness that then could be "cured/symptoms reduced" by another agent like a (pharmaceutical)?
Also related did you ever work on projects that would cause reactions based on specific chemicals in blood?
if say for instance someone was on certain pharmacy drugs or even illegal drugs, like THC?
Quoting: Fallen
ADCs causing symptoms that could be "cured/reduced" by another agent: Very possible.
Projects causing reactions based on specific chemicals in blood: Yes. Not for anything related to illegal drugs as you suggested, though.


OP you said in the beginning of the post that these chemicals could be inhaled, absorbed, or ingested, my question is, are they only being sprayed? What I mean by that is, is it possible that some of these chemicals are being put in our food, water supply, or possibly even put into lotions and other products that people are using?
Just seems that there are so many ways to get these chemicals into our bodies.
Scary
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8435408
Every chemical mixture my laboratory worked on was meant to be deployed aerially. In some cases, however, bodies of water were the target rather than direct contact with humans.

Hi OP, you said in a earlier post that if you used moisturizer or hand lotion, your skin will become dependent on it.
How do you break such a dependency? Just stop using it? But will your skin return to normal eventually, or is it forever fucked?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8438832
Hello. I suppose this was sort of off topic when I posted it, and I only remembered this tidbit from an undergraduate biology course. But from what I understand, abstaining from further use of lotions will eventually lead to your skin producing its own natural oils. But your skin will be dry for quite some time after quitting. However, you can find some products that will not cause this effect in the first place.

Is there a 'detox' for the chemicals you are are aware of that you could advise?
Thnx.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273422
Not that I know of, no. Most detox kits I've read about say they will purge your colon, remove THC from your adipose tissue, etc. In other words, they all target specific chemicals in specific tissues. In general, these are actually more effective than kits that promise some sort of miracle "full body detox". But as far as protecting/detoxing against the multitude of chemicals you may be exposed to...no, nothing comes to mind.

(from page 11) Can you expand on this please? What symptoms of CFS would have been seen in trial animals?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6383062
General malaise, ineffective sleep cycles, orthostatic instability, mood swings, to name a few.

so youre just trying to piss off the general public now?? ok I believe you there are less expensive ways...have your people call mine
Quoting: exiled1
These are all described symptoms of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome that we saw in test animals during trials of this project. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.
Since you are up to this page on replies...


What did you think of your colleagues given the knowledge of what you were creating together?
Cheers.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1273422
What was initially a very awkward work environment eventually gave way to the general sense of professional camaraderie found in most offices. I probably thought no less of my co-workers than they did of me. When I first started, it was at the same time as a few others in their late twenties/early thirties. At that time, there were also a handful of people in their fifties - we looked up to them. They strode the lab like giants. As I eventually filled that role, and when a new group of twenty-somethings was hired, the role reversal felt interesting.
Sorry, I might have gone off on a tangent from your original question. I had respect for nearly all of my colleagues.


This is some bored 30 something dork dude without a date drinking enough mountain dew to dissolve a manatee while lapping up some attention.
Glad you got it man....we all deserve to get what we want...and I guess these suckers on your string are getting what they want too!
Live it up dude...chemtrails are real...but I don't believe you have anything to do with 'em!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8332850
That's fine. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion. It's not like I've never met such skepticism when attempting to explain my career. And yes, I used to live in a city. Now I live in a cabin. I moved out here two months after retirement. Hardly see any planes now. It's nice. And I further explained my views on so-called "detox kits" in a later post. Please read it.

OP, what do you do to protect yourself from the effects of chemtrails?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8399248
I live in a remote area. That is all
Hardly a diversion.
Much can be learned from failed lab assignment results, just as with successful lab asignments.


The 'non-toxicity' sounds legit as well during the nascent development stage of a new technology. You don't want human populations running to the ER's citywide, or freaking out with psych attacks in the middle of the street during (the inevitable) trial deployments over cities.
I'd guess this OP's lab(one of many compartmentalized) was in business to help R&D the 'system' of ADC deployment for some agency(mr. big). Sure OP did projects for paying clients because corp's write this off as R&D $, they get a useful(profit to them) chemical, and maybe the 'agency' gets another ADC step forward.
In as much as the OP's lab got paid generously for it's ADC development, I often wonder what the city of Chicago is getting reimbursed for actual human trials over it's population of 10 million.
Quoting: uscrusader1

is it possible your job was just a diversion? created only to muddy waters?
If my job was a diversion, it would probably be the most expensive diversion in they history of mankind. So my guess is no.

fwiw, ADC chems are bad, biologicals are worse.
With 10,000,000 germs per gram a .03 gallon per acre dosage would result in 1 germ per cubic foot of air... from ground level to 30,000 feet!
flu anyone?
[This is hypothetical, of course. We were never asked to include any such markers in our final products. But for the sake of the hypothetical situation, it could either be inhaled or absorbed through skin, and you would definitely not want it to send people to the ER. Not if you want the entire city ending up in the ER.

I think I mentioned this before - 0.03 gallons is an irrelevant number, given how much the concentration of the primary compound in a final mixture can vary. But yes, for some of the more concentrated mixtures, this figure is plausible.

I spent 17 years developing various chemicals for Chemtrails - ask me almost anything.
OP, you may have answered before. . . .please excuse me if you have. . . In a recent GLP Poll . . . (see below) almost 54% of the voters feel that CHEMTRAILs are persistent while contrails are not. . . In Your Opinion. . . Could the addition of the class of chemicals you worked with . . .make any of the visible trails from aircraft more persistent. . . if so, would the persistence have been significant? . . .
If you have already answered the above question or something similar . . . Could I ask you. . . How would you have voted in the poll below?
POLL: CHEMTRAILs are what???
4) CHEMTRAILs are persistent trails, contrails are not persistent 53.8% (133)
2) all trails in the sky are contrails, CHEMTRAILs don't exist 17.4% (43)
3) some trails in the sky are CHEMTRAILs but most trails are contrails 14.2% (35)
5) CHEMTRAILs nor contrails need be visible, visibility is coincidental 6.9% (17)
1) all trails in the sky are CHEMTRAILs, contrails are a subset of contrails 5.7% (14)
6) CHEMTRAILs are very rare but are occasionally seen 2.0% (5)
Blank (View Results) (58)
Non-Blank Votes: 247
Quoting: George B
I would have answered #3 and #5 - the two are not mutually exclusive. Answer #4 is a common misconception. Answer #2 is a naive denial. Answer #1 is simply not true. Answer #6 is overly optimistic.

Hello OP, and thank you for answering questions related to your career.
I have one question.
Could/would you think back through all the chemical products your lab was asked to create/test and list a simplified chart of
1. the chemical name
2. the intended effect
3. successful or not
If you feel this would identify you then please disregard the request.
And the old woman inside me can't help but offer you a last comment. Please accept it for consideration.
All humans on earth are guilty of our own ignorance. None have been fully informed.
Quoting: soulsurvivor
Sorry, but creating such a compilation and releasing it publicly would go way too far beyond the level of specificity that I feel comfortable with.

Hello,
The people or organization that funded this work seems very private and have have alot of resources. Your shop doesn't sound cheap even being one so small.
Also it is reassuring that the scientists had some ethics regarding working on project that would overtly do harmful.
The work and interactions with the customer seems so compartmentalized as well. Also seems to aid plausible dependability. Especially when it seems the work were not FDA approved and such. Did did you ever wonder about these factors? It all seems to spit on 'knowledge is power' to some level.
Were any research data and records ever available to aid future projects? I imagine aspects from past research would be helpful.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
There were cases where it was blatantly obvious that we were being contracted by people who had employed us in the past. Even to the point of them giving us our old lab notebooks from previous projects back, if they thought they would help with the newer project. But in most cases, we could only use retained knowledge from previous projects to help us with similar projects in the future.
No - we never heard results about any of our products. Probably related to plausible deniability. We could only speculate as to final results based on our animal trials.
Al2O3 - No.
Advice - Please see earlier in the thread. I realize this has drawn on pretty long and it might be hard to find that specific response, so I'll give you a brief answer. I'm pretty pessimistic about "getting this stopped". Writing a letter to your congressman isn't going to help. Going to the media isn't going to help unless you have solid, undeniable proof.
Goodnight all. Not sure why I came back here, even after I said I was done. But I'm not sorry that I have.
Judging by my employment experience, the people contracting our work go through great lengths to keep what they do hidden from the general public. Extreme amounts of compartmentalization, even by industry standards. I highly doubt many, if any, congressmen know. I would also speculate that only the upper echelon of the military is aware, if that.
Yes, I know for a fact that some of my co-workers felt extremely guilty. Especially over time. Even more guilty than myself.
There must be people who are aware of what they are doing that load/service these systems of aircraft. I do not know any such people, but it seems like they must exist.
Yes, I currently smoke Marijuana. I grow it myself. I have no clue as to whether it's reported medicinal properties are true, although from what I've read, raw ingestion is not the way to go. It makes me feel good and helps me forget the past.
Yes, we worked on products involving anti-depressant effects. These projects were generally easy - most of the time we would use chemicals similar if not identical to prescription medications, and merely adapt them to aerial dispersal.
That's my plan (checking back from time to time). I've jumped back and forth between abandoning this thread because of the numerous tangents that have spun off, as well as hateful posts directed at me. But there are still relevant questions being asked. So I will probably continue to lurk and answer questions that I feel are worthwhile.
On certain mixtures, temperature can play a major role. But we never designed chemicals with certain climates in mind.
Wind patterns can be used to aid dispersal. I.e. deploying a more concentrated mixture when there is a lot of wind between dispersal level and ground level will enhance dispersion but lower end point concentration. But in the end it is up to the contractor as far as when, where, and under what conditions they use our products.
I don't want to get in to the details of the details of the most dangerous compound we gave final approval on. It wasn't extremely toxic by any means, but it still bothered me that we didn't declare it a failure.
Yes, we conducted all animal trials in house. Symptoms/results varied greatly depending on the project at hand. Some results took minutes to manifest. Others, nearly the entire lifetime of the test animal.
All tests were conducted using aerosol dispersion of the mixture, as this is how it would be deployed in the field.
Fatal effects were common. If these fatal effects were too common, despite attempts to rectify these effects, the project would be declared a failure. Yes, our first route following fatal trials would be to decrease dosage and observe whether we still obtained the desired effects without the previous levels of fatality.
We never worked on anything that I would want utilized on me without my knowledge.
Do I think anyone important has seen this thread? I don't know.
Do I think people in charge monitor this site? I don't know. To some extent, I hope not.
Do I worry about my safety? Sometimes, yes. Most of the time no. My life has been an adventure. It is out of my hands to determine when it ends.
Millions/billions: The investment of our contractors, per project, was likely somewhere between eight or nine figures ($10,000,000 to $999,999,999).
Yes, it was made very clear to us from day one that "going public" would not be in our best interest. This was extremely stressful at first, but these stress levels actually decreased the longer we worked at our lab. They started to increase again as I neared retirement, but this proved to be unfounded.
Yes, I can think of a few colleagues of mine that did indeed have families that knew some details of what they did for a living, and wanted them to consider a change in career. Sorry, just realized I misread your question. But, yes, many of my colleagues worried that the mixtures they developed might end up being used on their loved ones.
Time to hit the sack. AC 459 has asked some very good questions, some which I haven't answered yet. I'll try to get to these tomorrow. Good night all


let this be a taste for others working in the chem business....
this is what will happen to you...
you will end up...addicted to alcohol and speaking to all the people you helped torment...unwillingly i might add...
a surrealist purgatory..
a prep of things to come....when you get to the other side...
karma...
Quoting: mr...bojangles

I doubt all roads involving a degree in chemistry end like mine.
Haven't checked this in a few days...anyone have anymore new or original questions? Or should we call this thing dead.


It's nice to see that there is some genuine appreciation for what I've been doing on this message board. It seems like replies have been split between people telling me I'm going to hell, people calling me a fraud, and people with genuine interest in my past.

Never had any interactions with US military. If they ever contracted the services of our lab, I never knew. Like I've said in previous posts, the entire system was extremely compartmentalized. Never had any clue who we were conducting research for.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if foreign militaries were looking into the same sort of research that we were conducting for our contractors.
No one outside of our small group of employees were ever in our lab, except for a few exceptions. Never any politicians. I'd imagine that would be quite a risk for them, especially given the number of security cameras we had in the lab.


Interesting that the guy(in the video) looking for funding this was going to use the flu as the carrier. With a minimum of 10 million virus per gram - ADC coverage/density would be at least 1 virus per cu foot of air, to 30,000 feet altitude.
Pentagon Eugenics Alter DNA to breed out Religious impulses via FunVax Vaccinations and Aerosol Spraying
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
OP,
Sound about right? Can you add any more details or speculation.

I'll have to watch the video first. Also, I'm not sure why you keep asking me register on this site. Do you have an ulterior motive?

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Thank you so much for posting this, OP.

I will read it as soon as I am able, and comment.

hf
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Fucking retards. It has already been shown mathematically impossible as it would take amounts of metal pretty much exhausting global supply to have any atmospheric change


Go home tard fucker.
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The OP that made the initial thread quoted stated that it was NOT designed to affect the atmosphere...mostly HUMANS.

hf
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Thank you so much for posting this, OP.

I will read it as soon as I am able, and comment.

hf
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:)
It's very interesting reading.
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For all of us interested in Chemtrails.
There will be a special C2C Chemtrail show in the first segment July 2, 2019. Special guest Elana Freeland. She is best known for her book: Chemtrails, HAARP, and the Full Spectrum Dominance of Planet Earth.

C2CCTshow

For times and local stations.
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Weird. I was looking at another thread and then when I looked down again, I ended up on this thread. Not sure how it happened but I’ve been meaning to read this.

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There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist...

Oh, and the Corona virus didn't create itself...
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Fucking retards. It has already been shown mathematically impossible as it would take amounts of metal pretty much exhausting global supply to have any atmospheric change


Go home tard fucker.
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The OP that made the initial thread quoted stated that it was NOT designed to affect the atmosphere...mostly HUMANS.

hf
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I hope there are consequences for these people.
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Fucking retards. It has already been shown mathematically impossible as it would take amounts of metal pretty much exhausting global supply to have any atmospheric change


Go home tard fucker.
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The OP that made the initial thread quoted stated that it was NOT designed to affect the atmosphere...mostly HUMANS.

hf
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I hope there are consequences for these people.
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The OP of the original thread disregarded warnings to maintain his anonymity while posting to GLP. He thought his wireless internet in the mountains was safe enough.

On day 5 OP suddenly stopped posting, and his USRID was never used again. The consequences of not maintaining OPSEC and going public on GLP with his secret Chemtrail Chemical Development Lab details were more than likely severe.

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AJ just said the other day that they have finally come out to say it's true, there are chemtrails.
I don't know his MSM source, maybe he said The Smithsonian, but not sure.

Sure would like to think the OP of the original thread is okay.

Five stars, OPie.

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