Today after some minor argue my girlfriend wanted to jump out of the window..

But as a woman, if I hear that another woman has thought to fling herself from a moving car or out a tall window to get away from a man, my first intuition is

Oh. A borderline personality disorder man. Crazymaking man. One of those, shameless and indefatigable in their manipulation and badgering..


They are innocent as small children. Their personality development was impeded as small children. A small child’s temper tantrum in an adult male body is “impossible”.

Borderline personality disorder people do this thing called projective identification. They can somehow make you feel what they feel—or something very similar. It’s uncanny, unnerving and spooky.

When I hear of women leaping from
tall windows or moving vehicles to escape men I think that must have been one crazy borderline man.

Have YOU thought of throwing yourself from a building or car because of a "crazymaking" man? Sounds like maybe so and it was all HIS fault right?

Yup. You caught it too.

Sometimes they tell the part about how she tries to leave by the window, always including how scared they were, how they had to catch her to pull her back. With some detail like how fast their heart is beating. They always include some information about their physiological state.

What they don’t always tell you is that for three hours they’d been blocking her as she tried to leave the apartment through the door.

Third floor is usually not high enough to die, but it would fuck her shit up for sure. Wheelchair GF drinking yogurt mush thru a straw?

Nope. I have stepped out of car at an intersection and walked along home. I won’t be yapped at incessantly. Sometimes when the bordeline man mouth ygers yapping it takes a shocking experience to interrupt the loop.

I’ve also explained to a tearful waiter that nothing the crazy man said to him means anything, even if he was very convincing, that I was there, that our service was fine, that the man just has disorders and runs his loops.

My parents were Depression Era and working class growing up. They were luckier than some but the whole generation has some borderline/ narcissistic symptoms. They are nothing to be ashamed of. Who could be ashamed of having been a stressed child? Not all people had access to psychotherapy and not all therapy is good. Some is very bad.

So o got raised with good parents who under stress threw into loops of narcissistic Nd borderline behavior.

A lot of us with Depression Era parents have needed or wanted a lot of good psychotherapy of our own. I got really lucky . I’d had a super bad psychologist as a young woman. I know what damage victim blaming bad therapy can do. That woman was more ducked up as o was and later I learned why. She was good enough to disclose it. As an older still young womn I found a really great therapist and of course I read all the books and tried all the practices.

My generation counts ourselves success of our kids finish college within their scholarship time and can support themselves and pay for their own therapy.

My son is the age of OP. He made the leaps into forever job and forever home, hopefully with forever wife. I could never have made those leaps myself. It I never leaped from windows or thought about it.

I think OP wanted out of the financial expense of a girl he really wasn’t that into. I think he knows its a bit boyish to return a girl to her father to couch sued and study without work. I think he manipulated event that give him a graceful out. He’s doing distortion campaign and damage control. If the story came out and got around...well if he relied on his mother to find a wife for him it would be harder when girls fathers found out that after five years he’d thrown one back. It’s easier to document t now that she’s crazy. Makes OP look more like an innocent t victim and less like a cad.

She might have been trying to crawl out into the eaves to wave for help or crawl tobwhere ahe could drop off and run.



We used to to “sneak out “ to run the golf course greens long ago. Aside from stress on gutters not meant to hold our weight there was no harm.



Last Edited by Yardman on 06/29/2019 12:00 PM

Wow, just wow. I didn't want to write here anymore but I guess I have to. Two things my friends:

1) when I wrote "I like to know this because we don't want to have children and the more I know about her body the more I am in control" - I meant that I am mature enough to control if we will have children or no! My girlfriend was kind of girl that she was forgetting about stuff - so some pills or something would end having children. When I knew when she had days when we could get pregnant then we simply wasn't making love. It's that simple. I used statement 'in control' in that way.

2) I have never used any force against here. I have never locked doors, I have never ordered her to stay in apartment! Who do you think I am? I am not some bully who hit girls for fuck sake. This lady who were telling story about her son - you are dead wrong about me! I am far from being ideal boyfriend but I never did anything bad against my girlfriend, never hit her, never called her names etc.


Now I am on my own for the week and I see that I am right in some things and also wrong about other things. But I did it, I moved out. We are on the break. She went to theraphy, I am doing everything I can to learn new programming language and find job. Officialy we are not together and we are not talking on the phone or via other forms of talking.

I love her. Seriously. But she has some issues which hopefully can be fixed. I wish her this! I wish her all the best. But now we can't be together because nothing would change! And I want change! I want good, sincere relationship without arguing or jumping from the window!!

So lady from above - back off! You know nothing, you didn't even read all my posts. Good luck with your son.


I made my decision to fix our lives. She is going twice a week to teraphy, I am doing my stuff to find job AND MAYBE ONE DAY... who knows?!

But for know all ended in peaceful form.

You are super stupid lady. So far from the truth. Please don't write on this thread anymore..

I love my girlfriend more than I love myself or anything in this world. I want her to be better, to fix all the issues. I pray for her everyday. And you are saying such horrible things. You are very bad woman.. Please don't write here again!

Attention cry. You won whatever argument you were having and she melted down.

My wife of 20 years got mad during our first couple of years dating when we argued, and my logic got the best of her.
She started crying and blurted 'call the police'

It was a reactionary thing to feeling out of control.

Women are emotional creatures. They will often cry to end an argument they are losing.

Men love to fix things. Women can't be fixed.

They have to fix themselves.

You can offer competence and a shoulder to cry on, but once in a while you have to put your foot down if the negative behavior goes to long or to far.

It would be extremely rare if u guys got back together after this 'break' imo but good luck to you op, i hope as the clouds start to clear u know u made the right decision

Lol damn dude he asked for serious answers only .

I am a mess right now. I have girlfriend for 5 years, we have our ups and downs, be argue a lot. I thought this is normal couple fights but today, after 20 minutes arguing she ran to the window, opened it and wanted to jump.. quickly I was near the window and I grabbed her. SHe was crying, shaking. Seriously, wtf.. ;/

After some time she said she is sorry and that will never happen again. I am devasted. I seriously think she has some mental issues. This wasn't normal. I AM NOT SURE THAT IF I DIDN'T MAKE A MOVE SHE WOULDN'T JUMP... This was so real!! Jesus! :(


She's sleeping right now. And I am nervous like never before. Jumping out of the window? We live on 3rd floor..

What should I do? Please, forum trolls, don't answer. I am expecting serious answers..



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